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Rugby 6 nations thread… part Deux
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
So we used up all of part 1 on the first 2 weekends
Now .. after a weekend of rest… it’s back!
So…. Saturday early… Italy vs Ireland
Saturday late… wales vs England
Sunday afternoon… France vs Scotland
Right… who you got
Ireland……..England…… France
I expect the Ireland and France games to be close for 60… then they pull away
England will absolutely hump the Welsh…. And it’s not going to be funny |
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Beware the Welsh team in turmoil.
I can just see the headlines already.
England should have far too much class but it’s wales… away, with a huge point to prove for every Welsh player and supporter.
What could possibly go wrong  |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Beware the Welsh team in turmoil.
I can just see the headlines already.
England should have far too much class but it’s wales… away, with a huge point to prove for every Welsh player and supporter.
What could possibly go wrong "
But bad teams in peril don’t just get better overnight … if England start quickly.. that place will turn sharpish |
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"Beware the Welsh team in turmoil.
I can just see the headlines already.
England should have far too much class but it’s wales… away, with a huge point to prove for every Welsh player and supporter.
What could possibly go wrong
But bad teams in peril don’t just get better overnight … if England start quickly.. that place will turn sharpish "
Still, I’ll save my crowing for the last 20 minutes…
I’ve never been one for taking games for granted.
Let’s hope for three competitive games and some great atmospheres
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well this Ireland Italy game has started at a hell of a pace… the line running from both sides has been superb |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
the abyss |
Think Italy will soon tire though and Ireland will take advantage  |
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By *w79Man
over a year ago
Stalbridge |
Hopefully Italy will beat the Welsh again like last year.
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well this Italian team gave France a scare for 70 minutes … let’s see if they can hang with Ireland for the next 20 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well this Ireland Italy game has started at a hell of a pace… the line running from both sides has been superb "
It's been a crackinh game  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Cracking* |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Italy are just getting better and better |
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Am sat watching it and my neighbour just asked if I’m ok lol we are the only rugby house in a row of football houses x |
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
It's so good seeing Italy really competing, after years of people saying they should be relegated from the competition. I know Ireland are finally getting control but given they're the best team in the world, Italy have done really well. And some cracking bits of open play!
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"It's so good seeing Italy really competing, after years of people saying they should be relegated from the competition. I know Ireland are finally getting control but given they're the best team in the world, Italy have done really well. And some cracking bits of open play!
G"
I would argue that Italy had the best autumn series of any of the northern hemisphere teams and they have brought it into the 6 nations….. if I was Italian I would be disappointed if I didn’t beat wales… and you could see them running Scotland close! |
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
"It's so good seeing Italy really competing, after years of people saying they should be relegated from the competition. I know Ireland are finally getting control but given they're the best team in the world, Italy have done really well. And some cracking bits of open play!
G
I would argue that Italy had the best autumn series of any of the northern hemisphere teams and they have brought it into the 6 nations….. if I was Italian I would be disappointed if I didn’t beat wales… and you could see them running Scotland close! "
Completely agree! Fingers crossed! |
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By *outhbucksCouple
over a year ago
Great Missenden |
So will all the Wales contract shenanigans have them all fired up? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ireland Ireland !! |
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By *outhbucksCouple
over a year ago
Great Missenden |
'cracking carry' by Freddie - great commentary |
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By *oby321Man
over a year ago
Earth |
I have faith England will take Wales now, the time of the dragons is long over really everyone should be worried about Scotland the form they're on and be happy South Africa and New Zealand aren't in the tournament (but I am bias)  |
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Copy from the “official” Fabio thread (  continuity and consistency please folks !) :
“Wales v engherland - big match
Events off the pitch - massive
Upper hand - wales
Hope it’s a good match”
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!"
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides.. |
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Happy to crow now but that was a close call.
Game still well and truly alive right up until around 75 mins!
Great to see Courtney lawes back in an England shirt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Happy to crow now but that was a close call.
Game still well and truly alive right up until around 75 mins!
Great to see Courtney lawes back in an England shirt "
Yep we were only one silly mistake away from losing it. Great match |
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides.. "
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides..
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee."
That's because Farrel is not the best kicker, very inconsistent. We gave away less penalties but we shouldn't be missing those opportunities, we played well for moments, but certainly not in the 2nd half.
We are definitely going in the right direction under Borthwick, but nowhere near yet... |
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides..
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee.
That's because Farrel is not the best kicker, very inconsistent. We gave away less penalties but we shouldn't be missing those opportunities, we played well for moments, but certainly not in the 2nd half.
We are definitely going in the right direction under Borthwick, but nowhere near yet..."
I agree. I think that Borthwick will be good for the team and I like the idea that he is promoting "playing what's in front of you" rather than Eddie's "follow the game plan at all costs" mentality.
Unfortunately though, I don't think that we're in the same class as Ireland or France at the moment... but there's great potential for being in form the World Cup.
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides.. "
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"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides..
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee.
That's because Farrel is not the best kicker, very inconsistent. We gave away less penalties but we shouldn't be missing those opportunities, we played well for moments, but certainly not in the 2nd half.
We are definitely going in the right direction under Borthwick, but nowhere near yet..."
I've never really been a massive Farrel fan. He is undoubtedly a great player, but he can sometimes be a bit hot headed and takes too much on for himself. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice as captain.
Cal |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Was expecting an Irish slip up today. Not totally great performance but got the job done.
Thought Italy played like they did against France in first match, very well. |
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"Was expecting an Irish slip up today. Not totally great performance but got the job done.
Thought Italy played like they did against France in first match, very well. "
Yes, I think that Italy have certainly taken a big step forward this year. |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
North Norfolk area |
"Well this Italian team gave France a scare for 70 minutes … let’s see if they can hang with Ireland for the next 20"
Hmmmmm.......back when I was at school, and started playing the game, 70 + 20 = 90???
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"Well this Italian team gave France a scare for 70 minutes … let’s see if they can hang with Ireland for the next 20
Hmmmmm.......back when I was at school, and started playing the game, 70 + 20 = 90???
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2017 - “Six Nations game lasts almost 100 minutes after astonishing last play”
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We are going to win the grand slam
IRELAND ABU |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
North Norfolk area |
"Well this Italian team gave France a scare for 70 minutes … let’s see if they can hang with Ireland for the next 20
Hmmmmm.......back when I was at school, and started playing the game, 70 + 20 = 90???
2017 - “Six Nations game lasts almost 100 minutes after astonishing last play”
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I remember it well, was in Dublin for England just having to turn up to take the Grand Slam.....shame nobody bothered to agree that with the Irish!
Wayne Barnes, France v Wales from recollection.
Kick off in Dublin delayed until the final whistle had been blown.....had to have another couple of beers whilst we waited |
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides..
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee.
That's because Farrel is not the best kicker, very inconsistent. We gave away less penalties but we shouldn't be missing those opportunities, we played well for moments, but certainly not in the 2nd half.
We are definitely going in the right direction under Borthwick, but nowhere near yet..."
That's what I meant. He missed 4 kicks, and I reckon they missed at least 1 pretty good try-scoring opportunity. Wales were pretty mediocre and we were less mediocre! |
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By *rojan23Man
over a year ago
neverland |
Think it maybe Frances year this year personally... |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Great match. England should have scored at least 15 more points!
No way we could have scored 15 more points based on that performance, still a long way to go for both sides..
I'm not sure I agree, there were certainly missed opportunities. There were 10 points missed from the Tee.
That's because Farrel is not the best kicker, very inconsistent. We gave away less penalties but we shouldn't be missing those opportunities, we played well for moments, but certainly not in the 2nd half.
We are definitely going in the right direction under Borthwick, but nowhere near yet...
I've never really been a massive Farrel fan. He is undoubtedly a great player, but he can sometimes be a bit hot headed and takes too much on for himself. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice as captain.
Cal"
The problem with Farrell is that he is a good 10 or a good 12…. But not world class in either position
I don’t see why itoje isn’t the captain because he is about the only nailed on starter they have…. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Well this Italian team gave France a scare for 70 minutes … let’s see if they can hang with Ireland for the next 20
Hmmmmm.......back when I was at school, and started playing the game, 70 + 20 = 90???
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That’s not fair.. I wrote that at minute 60!!
But yes… I think we could say that Italy gave both France and Ireland a proper game for 70 minutes! |
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Game of the tournament coming up now I reckon.
Come on Scotland!
Be great if you could break your six nations duck with a grand slam |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Interesting that the french let their crowd sing the anthem without the music…. You know it’s a big game when that happens…
I think that’s the first time this championship so far |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Game of the tournament coming up now I reckon.
Come on Scotland!
Be great if you could break your six nations duck with a grand slam "
Scotland has won the tournament before |
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"Game of the tournament coming up now I reckon.
Come on Scotland!
Be great if you could break your six nations duck with a grand slam
Scotland has won the tournament before "
Not the six nations… |
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This is about to ruin Scotland’s six nations.
Ridiculous tackle.
Clear red. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Hate that.. but that was the right decision |
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Straight red..
This may well be a trouncing now.. |
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Game on
Best thing that could’ve happened!
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well…. That will even things up…. I like 14 on 14 rugby.. this will be a flat track shootout |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well that will kill off a game sharpish!!!! |
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Scotland have definitely got a couple of tries in them. Enough to come back from 19-0 though? Not sure. |
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
All pretty breathless! End-to-end! Still think France have got this but....
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"Straight red..
This may well be a trouncing now.."
I eat my words.. |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
Great game and both teams going for it . |
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"Great game and both teams going for it ."
Agreed.. |
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That game didn’t disappoint in terms of drama and quality.
Damn shame Scotland couldn’t keep their slam hopes alive at the end there but this French team are beasties at home. |
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In fairness 3 great games over the weekend. Scotland had so much possession they will be disappointed not to come away with any points. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Spose we best talk about the rugby….
So… Italy vs wales, England vs France and Scotland vs Ireland
Who ya got…
I have said all season that Italy will beat wales.. and I still believe that |
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Italy vs Wales - Wales by the smallest of margins, Italy are almost there, but I don't think they have a full 80 mins yet
England vs France - France  both teams have tightened up on discipline which used to cost them games, the French especially. Still a few too many handling / breakdown errors from England to hold off a quite clinical French side.
Scotland vs Ireland - Ireland could be the game of the tournament, or Ireland will steamroller the plucky Scots, they look unbeatable at the moment.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Italy turn over Wales. I've been saying for years that Italy should be replaced, but this season they seemed to have had a major resurgence, whilst wales have been awful.
Can't see England beating France.
Scotland v Ireland more interesting especially as a Scotland fan. Scotland have been brilliant this season but Ireland have also been impressive. Ireland just |
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I think all 3 games this weekend could go either way … common Ireland ???? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wins for Scotland France and Italy I think |
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France, Ireland and Wales.
All will be close in scores, especially if everyone is on point with their kicking.
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I’m thinking Wales might just pip the Italians to the win, Ireland will take Scotland, the one I can’t make my mind up on is Eng v France, Farrell’s kicking hasn’t been great and I recon that could cost us in the end if it’s a close game |
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We're getting whooped sacre bleu  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Borthwick will be roaring at them in the dressing room |
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Sheeesh. What a hammering this is |
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I think we can call that a complete trouncing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hopefully Italy will beat the Welsh again like last year.
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Unlucky |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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England had a proper dicking.....good to see. |
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"I think we can call that a complete trouncing "
A well deserved win for France, England have just been dismal today. They've a lot to improve on before the Ireland game if they don't want a similar result.
On the other hand, there's plenty of time to improve before the world Cup, and I'm sure they'll be a different side come September.
The "fans" walking out with 10 minutes to go should be ashamed of themselves.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"England had a proper dicking.....good to see."
With a mixed Welsh-English family I try not to gloat at times like this, but it is satisfying to silence the ‘swing low…’ at RFU HQ. Feel for the players though. Very happy for the Sheriff today - that man’s been carrying a heavy load the last few weeks. |
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I was drinking Welsh gin. Wales won
Then went on to PG Tips for England.
I’m sorry. It would appear to be all my fault!
(But at least I wasn’t eating frogs legs!) |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
North Norfolk area |
"I think we can call that a complete trouncing
A well deserved win for France, England have just been dismal today. They've a lot to improve on before the Ireland game if they don't want a similar result.
On the other hand, there's plenty of time to improve before the world Cup, and I'm sure they'll be a different side come September.
The "fans" walking out with 10 minutes to go should be ashamed of themselves.
Cal"
Totally agree.
Irish fans did the same thing 4 years in Dublin, doesn't make it right in any way though (not real fans, they'd have stayed and applauded the winners)! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think we can call that a complete trouncing
A well deserved win for France, England have just been dismal today. They've a lot to improve on before the Ireland game if they don't want a similar result.
On the other hand, there's plenty of time to improve before the world Cup, and I'm sure they'll be a different side come September.
The "fans" walking out with 10 minutes to go should be ashamed of themselves.
Cal
Totally agree.
Irish fans did the same thing 4 years in Dublin, doesn't make it right in any way though (not real fans, they'd have stayed and applauded the winnes)! "
So true |
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Fekin Eck that was a proper battering, fair play to France who at times looked to have another gear or two to move up to and are preparing very well for RWC..
England have got much work to do.. |
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"I think we can call that a complete trouncing
A well deserved win for France, England have just been dismal today. They've a lot to improve on before the Ireland game if they don't want a similar result.
On the other hand, there's plenty of time to improve before the world Cup, and I'm sure they'll be a different side come September.
The "fans" walking out with 10 minutes to go should be ashamed of themselves.
Cal"
Stay and take the pain, look at the players and let them know the punters aren't happy.. |
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England played rubbish too slow off the starting block France were awesome, well played France, I'm guessing Ireland v France final  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"England played rubbish too slow off the starting block France were awesome, well played France, I'm guessing Ireland v France final "
I'm guessing that too |
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"England played rubbish too slow off the starting block France were awesome, well played France, I'm guessing Ireland v France final
I'm guessing that too "
See we are civilised fans lol |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"England played rubbish too slow off the starting block France were awesome, well played France, I'm guessing Ireland v France final "
It could be…. But France have New Zealand in their group… and Ireland have South Africa in theirs
If they both win their groups… or come 2nd.. they will avoid each other till the final
If one comes first and the other comes second in their groups.. it will be a quarter final clash!
Weirdly enough because of when the draw was.. England have the easiest route to the semi final… win their group (which has Argentina and Japan in it) and their quarter final would likely be the loser of the Australia vs Wales game! (Although Georgia and Fiji might give wales a game in their group) |
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By *llaandGCouple
over a year ago
London |
"England played rubbish too slow off the starting block France were awesome, well played France, I'm guessing Ireland v France final
It could be…. But France have New Zealand in their group… and Ireland have South Africa in theirs
If they both win their groups… or come 2nd.. they will avoid each other till the final
If one comes first and the other comes second in their groups.. it will be a quarter final clash!
Weirdly enough because of when the draw was.. England have the easiest route to the semi final… win their group (which has Argentina and Japan in it) and their quarter final would likely be the loser of the Australia vs Wales game! (Although Georgia and Fiji might give wales a game in their group) "
I genuinely wouldn't fancy England's chances against Argentina currently.
But regardless, and said as a huge Emgland fan, France were irresistible today! I can't think of the last time they looked that good (there was a France All Blacks game I think?)
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Ey ore, ey ore its dombrandt the donkey…
Never an international no 8.
I’m singling him out but the whole pack were shite.
Absolutely love the French performance today.
Men against donkeys.
That back five of forwards has to be the best combination in the world currently when they play like that. Alldritt was just immense! |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
" But regardless, and said as a huge Emgland fan, France were irresistible today! I can't think of the last time they looked that good (there was a France All Blacks game I think?)
G"
Last time I saw a french team look that good… the under 20’s game against England last night! Which is scary for the amount of talent, and the fact the french could dominate the English for the next 5 years at least |
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over a year ago
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EIRE |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
aye France were good but England need young blood in the team and give them a few years to bond but it's Scotland v ireland tomorrow and come on ireland!! |
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"aye France were good but England need young blood in the team and give them a few years to bond but it's Scotland v ireland tomorrow and come on ireland!!"
Got to be World Cup favourites right? |
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"We're talking 6 nations here? "
Obviously not when the talk turns to "Finals" as the 6 Nations doesn't have one. |
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"aye France were good but England need young blood in the team and give them a few years to bond but it's Scotland v ireland tomorrow and come on ireland!!
Got to be World Cup favourites right?"
I personally find it hard to discount Australia, New Zealand or South Africa when it comes to the world cup. Six months is a long time in sport and more than enough for a team to regain their form... I'd expect England to be in the mix too.
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
North Norfolk area |
"Ey ore, ey ore its dombrandt the donkey…
Never an international no 8.
I’m singling him out but the whole pack were shite.
Absolutely love the French performance today.
Men against donkeys.
That back five of forwards has to be the best combination in the world currently when they play like that. Alldritt was just immense!"
Agree with all of that!
Dombrandt, at Quins fine, but then he's got Care there... JVP seems to be turning into Youngs Mk 2!
I'd rather Willis had stayed on and Ludlum gone to 8.
Itoje needs to go back to his club, done nothing for ages.
Unless Slade was injured, can't help feeling he was made a scapegoat to get Farrell on!
Can't take anything away from the French.....awesome performance.
What's the odds on Ireland handing us an even bigger defeat? |
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By *imbobaMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
Showing support for Scotland here. I think this afternoon’s game will be tight with an Ireland victory |
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By *mily36CWoman
over a year ago
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Torn... May just remain a friendly neutral and hope for a great game |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Ireland win to set a st Patrick’s weekend tonking of the English in Dublin for the Grand slam! |
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"Ireland win to set a st Patrick’s weekend tonking of the English in Dublin for the Grand slam! "
I think we should call it “The trouncing, Take 2”  |
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over a year ago
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Great first half |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
The ref got that one wrong…how can someone set early if the scrum is uncontested? … also watching a non no.2 (can’t say hook er) throwing in is a delight! |
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"The ref got that one wrong…how can someone set early if the scrum is uncontested? … also watching a non no.2 (can’t say hook er) throwing in is a delight! "
Scrums are still contested.
Ireland really stepped up now |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Ireland going through the gears now…. |
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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago
somewhere |
"Ireland win to set a st Patrick’s weekend tonking of the English in Dublin for the Grand slam! "
Still have to beat Scotland ( which looks likely ) but still the fear of The bloody English team turning it around |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The ref got that one wrong…how can someone set early if the scrum is uncontested? … also watching a non no.2 (can’t say hook er) throwing in is a delight!
Scrums are still contested.
Ireland really stepped up now"
Didn’t realise cian Healy was playing 2 in the scrum |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
he played that position a few times in club level but never seen him at international level and I need to find a good bar next Saturday in London for the rugby . |
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Have to say, I'm a bit disappointed that Ireland had a Try written off, because (let's not beat about the bush) Scotland tried to cheat by taking a fast lineout with a different ball. At worst, the lineout should of been given to Ireland.
Thankfully the better team won in the end of the day to save blushes and controversy from a bad Referring decision. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
So…. Super Saturday is here…. How many do Ireland beat England by? In fact… how many do France beat wales by? |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
I would say France beat Wales by 30 and the ireland game will be close but I think we will beat England by 10 |
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England will come out (swinging, literally) and try and overpower us , especially at the scrum and target the 11-12 channel..
But I have faith in my old friends to win by 13 points |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Both Ireland and France to win their respective games by 20! The closest game today will be the Scotland game and they will beat Italy by 10 |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible |
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Sco v Ita - Scotland
Fra v Wal - France
Ire v Eng - Ireland
Hope to be surprised by any of the results today but I suspect they will all run to form. |
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"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible "
I quite like it
Scotland to win by 7 points
France to win by at least 20
Ireland to win by 10 (hopefully we won’t get trounced again) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Totally agree. It hurts me eyes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible "
Totally agree, hurts my eyes |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Nice living up to the stereotype with the old pizza hats!!! I am surprised they were not dressed up as mario!!! |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
North Norfolk area |
"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible
I quite like it
Scotland to win by 7 points
France to win by at least 20
Ireland to win by 10 (hopefully we won’t get trounced again) "
If we only lose by 10 I'll be amazed, and take it with both hands. Can't see it somehow though |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Johnnys last 6 nation game against the team most hated to win their first grand slam at home….
By 10…….
Ireland will have the bonus points within the first half hour!!!! |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible "
it's brutal and so is the game |
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"Johnnys last 6 nation game against the team most hated to win their first grand slam at home….
By 10…….
Ireland will have the bonus points within the first half hour!!!! "
Most hated team ohh Jeebus |
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By *r.SJMan
over a year ago
Wellingborough |
"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible
it's brutal and so is the game"
Can't disagree  but absolute fair play to Italy... pretty sure for entertainment and giving it their all, they could teach England a thing or two ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"First observation….. can Scotland never play in this purple again!! It looks horrible
it's brutal and so is the game
Can't disagree but absolute fair play to Italy... pretty sure for entertainment and giving it their all, they could teach England a thing or two !"
Scotland v Italy is usually a brutal game as its normally the wooden spoon decider |
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Ohhh what a finish for Scotland, honestly for the last 5 mins I thought Italy were going to do it. Great first game of the day |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ohhh what a finish for Scotland, honestly for the last 5 mins I thought Italy were going to do it. Great first game of the day "
Great finish well done Scotland |
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It would have been nice to have seen Italy win, but they just couldn't finish. Well done to Scotland, they've had a good tournament. I believe they're guaranteed a (deserved) third play finish above England.
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By *r.SJMan
over a year ago
Wellingborough |
"It would have been nice to have seen Italy win, but they just couldn't finish. Well done to Scotland, they've had a good tournament. I believe they're guaranteed a (deserved) third play finish above England.
Cal"
Surmised pretty well I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wales controlling the game,tryyyyyyyyyyy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The French will probably surrender before it's over |
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"The French will probably surrender before it's over"
I’m not so sure about that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The French will probably surrender before it's over
I’m not so sure about that "
Neither am I  |
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Well Wales gave it a damn good go right from the off but it was not to be, nothing more to say but chapeau le bleu |
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"here we go !!"
You know it’s your right |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well so far England have upped their game |
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Well that's likely to have ruined what was looking like a good game.
I know that the ref has no choice but RED but when he was literally just bracing for impact, it seem a little unfair.
Cal |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Do feel sorry for Stewart getting the red at that point… but you have to play to the whistle and he didn’t and braced himself, whereas Keenan did
I think jaco had some sympathy because the first words out of his mouth when sending him off were “in the current climate…….” |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
we are playing so bad here
and if England had 15 players we would be behind . |
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"we are playing so bad here
and if England had 15 players we would be behind . "
Honestly if we had 15 on I recon the scores would be slightly different, it’s probably the best we’ve played all tournament |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
That yellow was lucky not to be a red… he was no where near the ball so why are you lifting! |
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"we are playing so bad here
and if England had 15 players we would be behind .
Honestly if we had 15 on I recon the scores would be slightly different, it’s probably the best we’ve played all tournament "
Would not matter we are playing 16
The air lift in the first half by Ireland was just a penalty WTF |
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"we are playing so bad here
and if England had 15 players we would be behind . "
Having a player off completely changes the dynamics of a game. I personally don’t think that Ireland are playing badly at all, just that England have done a great job of putting them under pressure.
I do think that without the Red Card, the score would be very close. Ireland are still slightly the better, but England can certainly be proud of our performance |
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"we are playing so bad here
and if England had 15 players we would be behind . "
So was the RED justified.
And was the air lift in the first half by Ireland a yellow not just a penalty looking at the one we have just seen |
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"Do feel sorry for Stewart getting the red at that point… but you have to play to the whistle and he didn’t and braced himself, whereas Keenan did
I think jaco had some sympathy because the first words out of his mouth when sending him off were “in the current climate…….”"
But there was also a high tackel on England but the REF did not see it and I guess the TMO did not high light it.
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
we could say was all the hits on sexton justified?? red card yes but yellow I didn't think so . |
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"That yellow was lucky not to be a red… he was no where near the ball so why are you lifting! "
It was the clear-out from the ruck, the initial contact was simultaneous with the ball coming out so they wouldn't have been aware.
To be fair though, the level of discipline was always going to drop with a player down, just because everyone is fighting that much harder.
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Do feel sorry for Stewart getting the red at that point… but you have to play to the whistle and he didn’t and braced himself, whereas Keenan did
I think jaco had some sympathy because the first words out of his mouth when sending him off were “in the current climate…….”
But there was also a high tackel on England but the REF did not see it and I guess the TMO did not high light it.
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If it was in the same sequence of play then foul play trumps everything else…
TMO reviews everything in the background.. I thought there were some tackles by England players that could have been called neck rolls that were let go… |
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"we could say was all the hits on sexton justified?? red card yes but yellow I didn't think so . "
Did you see the high tackle.. 10minits in to the second half against Ireland.
Don't get me wrong I was hoping Ireland would do the grand slam but not like that |
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"None of it matters now.
Well done Ireland, you’re the best in the world for a reason see you in France later in the year "
I'm not sure that Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, will be a tougher challenge come the world Cup... as will France & even England. I'm really looking forward to it.
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"Do feel sorry for Stewart getting the red at that point… but you have to play to the whistle and he didn’t and braced himself, whereas Keenan did
I think jaco had some sympathy because the first words out of his mouth when sending him off were “in the current climate…….”
But there was also a high tackel on England but the REF did not see it and I guess the TMO did not high light it.
If it was in the same sequence of play then foul play trumps everything else…
TMO reviews everything in the background.. I thought there were some tackles by England players that could have been called neck rolls that were let go… "
So what about the air lift and drop on the shoulder in the first half?? |
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All that said Ierland where the best of the 6.
Well done Ierland |
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over a year ago
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"All that said Ierland where the best of the 6.
Well done Ierland "
Well done Ireland |
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Well done Ireland....Thank you . |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
Well done England for a very tough game and they will be great again soon . |
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Worthy winners of the competition..
Well done Ireland.. |
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"Worthy winners of the competition..
Well done Ireland.."
Meant |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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Steward got it wrong, tried to turn away, but failed. However, Keenan also chose to remain upright! I've long said that not enough consideration is given to the actions of the ball carrier. Always going to be a card, just not convinced about the colour.
Hansen had his arms around Watson neck on the line before the second try, plus Van Der Fliers block as the ball went out leading to the try!
No argument about the result, and Ireland deserved the GS for consistency throughout the tournament, but consistency from Peyper/Jonker was somewhat lacking tbf.
From an England perspective, a much better performance finally.
Congratulations Ireland. |
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"Well done England for a very tough game and they will be great again soon ."
No they won't Farell is not top of the game England need a better 10 and possibly a better 9.
9 / 10 Control the game we don't really even have a grate 8
But time will tell.
At least Farnell kicked better today he misted some poor kicks in the tournament.
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"Steward got it wrong, tried to turn away, but failed. However, Keenan also chose to remain upright! I've long said that not enough consideration is given to the actions of the ball carrier. Always going to be a card, just not convinced about the colour.
Hansen had his arms around Watson neck on the line before the second try, plus Van Der Fliers block as the ball went out leading to the try!
No argument about the result, and Ireland deserved the GS for consistency throughout the tournament, but consistency from Peyper/Jonker was somewhat lacking tbf.
From an England perspective, a much better performance finally.
Congratulations Ireland. "
Thank you you for also spoting the high tackel.
What about the air tackle in the first half Ierland against England for me a Yellow |
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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago
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"Steward got it wrong, tried to turn away, but failed. However, Keenan also chose to remain upright! I've long said that not enough consideration is given to the actions of the ball carrier. Always going to be a card, just not convinced about the colour.
Hansen had his arms around Watson neck on the line before the second try, plus Van Der Fliers block as the ball went out leading to the try!
No argument about the result, and Ireland deserved the GS for consistency throughout the tournament, but consistency from Peyper/Jonker was somewhat lacking tbf.
From an England perspective, a much better performance finally.
Congratulations Ireland.
Thank you you for also spoting the high tackel.
What about the air tackle in the first half Ierland against England for me a Yellow "
As I said, some consistency from the officials would have been nice.
Peyper was fine for the first 30 mins, but then Jonker started in his ear.
At least twice before Steward's card he called Peyper's attention to actions (by England) that were then proven to be nothing!
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Fair play to Ireland.
Although I may seem biased England seem to have had a lot of poor refereeing gone against them.
Several in the France game and again today.
Irish players blocking the chasing player from kicks, coming in from the side over and over again, penalised for holding on when an Irish player is clearly preventing the ball coming back and don’t even get me started on the red card.
England have a lot to do. They seem to think they’re much better than they actually are and the effort and desire is lacking all over the park.
Slow to the breakdown, taking the ball at stand still and trying to break the gain line.
Just taking contact and getting nowhere for long periods of time.
No flair or creativity and a complete unwillingness to throw the ball wide and let the danger men have any effect on the game.
That’s why most teams and especially France and Ireland are way ahead of us.
Attitude and creativity.
Ireland were the best team throughout the championship however and thoroughly deserved their grand slam. |
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By *att192Man
over a year ago
East Kent |
"Well done England for a very tough game and they will be great again soon ."
Well done Ireland, you have had a fantastic six nations and well deserved.
England, well a lot to do tbh but a good performance today.
Hope you had a great St Patrick's day!!
My mum was from Cork so when England play Ireland I'm so 50/50 lol.
Well done the fighting Irish!! |
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over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Congratulations Ireland "
Cheers Jizzy |
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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago
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Steward knew exactly what he was doing.
Going from front on position able to make a proper tackle moving so he was side on to make a shoulder charge on Keenan.
Bye current laws straight red ( right or wrong no matter our thoughts its current laws to avoid further litigation on head knocks)
England played better than last week & Ireland seemed startled for long periods of the game due to the expectations & pressures of going for a grand slam |
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So he had time to turn instead of actually bending and at least attempt to rap …
Has anyone actually played at a serious level here , he knew exactly what he was doing ,
I get the protection bit , but he’s twice the size of Keenan .. no arguing |
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"So he had time to turn instead of actually bending and at least attempt to rap …
Has anyone actually played at a serious level here , he knew exactly what he was doing ,
I get the protection bit , but he’s twice the size of Keenan .. no arguing "
It’s the forum on fabswingers, the majority of people have never left their bedroom let alone actually pulled on boots! |
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By *rishman75Man
over a year ago
Chessington/epsom |
the game is over lads so don't worry about it now and look forward to the world Cup now |
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"So he had time to turn instead of actually bending and at least attempt to rap …
Has anyone actually played at a serious level here , he knew exactly what he was doing ,
I get the protection bit , but he’s twice the size of Keenan .. no arguing "
Yes. Played at a fairly decent level in the same team as Steve Thompson and Ben Cohen.
But does that really matter?
Does that mean that if anyone hasn’t played at top level that they’re too stupid to have a correct opinion?
That was an accidental collision that he couldn’t do anything about.
Red card my arse.
If Steward had meant it he would have bent into the challenge, leading with his shoulder.
He almost turns his backside into it in anticipation of being taken out.
Add to the fact that his momentum had slowed enough to knock him over and it’s common sense.
Much more the fault of the other player for not being in complete control of his movements.
If he’d done the exact same thing in front of the posts and clattered into the upright, would you be making the same ridiculous claim??
Safety I agree with. But accidents will happen. That doesn’t mean a red card should take away from Ireland only having to beat 14 men for a grand slam which just takes the edge off the whole thing for me. |
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Will there be a part trois |
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