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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?"
Ermmm woke agenda on meat??
Are you trying to wind up people? |
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over a year ago
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
Ermmm woke agenda on meat??
Are you trying to wind up people?"
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?"
I’ve not seen this , does this apply to the whole island or some quaint northern village i.e Manchester? We need more context please |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
I’ve not seen this , does this apply to the whole island or some quaint northern village i.e Manchester? We need more context please"
The context seems to be food shaming but for their own woke agenda. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
I’ve not seen this , does this apply to the whole island or some quaint northern village i.e Manchester? We need more context please
The context seems to be food shaming but for their own woke agenda. "
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By *an4funMan
over a year ago
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"These deranged do-gooder science types want to put warnings on meat about the dangers of global warming. Nothing on the vegetables they fly in from far flung places.
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Vegetables aren't sentient beings |
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By *ewisbi76Man
over a year ago
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I happily eat bacon twice a week. a friend who is a fitness coach mentioned he has a bacon roll every morning and i pointed out the recent studies linking bacon (and other meats cured in nitrites) to cancer.
He has a recent degree in nutrition but said it was nonsense and he wasnt bothered. If someone like him doesn't believe it i think its a struggle to get "normal" people to believe it
2 bacon rolls in a week is moderation imho, 7 seems excessive.
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"I happily eat bacon twice a week. a friend who is a fitness coach mentioned he has a bacon roll every morning and i pointed out the recent studies linking bacon (and other meats cured in nitrites) to cancer.
He has a recent degree in nutrition but said it was nonsense and he wasnt bothered. If someone like him doesn't believe it i think its a struggle to get "normal" people to believe it
2 bacon rolls in a week is moderation imho, 7 seems excessive.
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I’m guessing he’s not prepared to follow the science? Sounds familiar? |
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A quick search on this topic brings up...
ONE Daily Mail outrage bait article using a study done by a DUTCH university about putting confrontational guilt-triggering stickers on meat products in order to deter meat purchases.
NOTHING relevant to the UK at all.
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"A quick search on this topic brings up...
ONE Daily Mail outrage bait article using a study done by a DUTCH university about putting confrontational guilt-triggering stickers on meat products in order to deter meat purchases.
NOTHING relevant to the UK at all.
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Brexit' has a lot to answer for  |
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What’s next a fat child on a McDonald’s box, a homeless man asleep in the doorway on booze. I let’s put them on everything you want a curry sir ? Here’s a picture of what your toilet will look like in the morning.
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Lovely to see how everything somebody does not agree with can now we called a "woke agenda"
Joke aside, I think we need to listen to all sides and take opposing views into consideration when making a decision.
Unfortunately we are bombarded with so much information and disinformation from people and organisations who have their own agenda - be it woke (that is a compliment incidentally  or otherwise.  |
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"They should have a health warning, and a description of the way the animal died -- a photo of the conditions and process would be even better."
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Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened  |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened "
I’ve been slaughtered in Ireland a few times…. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
I’ve been slaughtered in Ireland a few times…. "
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened "
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
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Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well? |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
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"These deranged do-gooder science types want to put warnings on meat about the dangers of global warming. Nothing on the vegetables they fly in from far flung places.
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like hooflungdung |
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"These deranged do-gooder science types want to put warnings on meat about the dangers of global warming. Nothing on the vegetables they fly in from far flung places.
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https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local
Can you provide a convincing article suggesting that vegan diets are worse on account of the transport? I've only ever seen the opposite.
Of course, better than a warning would be to factor in the environmental cost and charge you 5 times as much as you're currently paying. |
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"Can you provide a convincing article suggesting that vegan diets are worse on account of the transport? I've only ever seen the opposite. "
It's just one of those arguments people like to throw out before they've even looked at the statistics -- they do this while momentarily forgetting that meat eaters also consume avocados (for example). |
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"Can you provide a convincing article suggesting that vegan diets are worse on account of the transport? I've only ever seen the opposite.
It's just one of those arguments people like to throw out before they've even looked at the statistics -- they do this while momentarily forgetting that meat eaters also consume avocados (for example)."
I don't like avocados, I do love a bacon sarnie though or a nice steak. |
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"All carcinogenic food should have one. There's a reason why cancer is 1 in 2"
Truth.
I don't know why people get so upset about things like thus.
It's their own choice of course to do what they want but it's a fact that too much meat is not good for us. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?"
Why try to sanitise the the process with words that hide the facts? |
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"All carcinogenic food should have one. There's a reason why cancer is 1 in 2
Truth.
I don't know why people get so upset about things like thus.
It's their own choice of course to do what they want but it's a fact that too much meat is not good for us."
You tell Nicky from the block that. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
Why try to sanitise the the process with words that hide the facts?"
Why not? |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?"
But it might be slaughtered and processed in different countries. If it’s born, bred, slaughtered, processed etc in the same country, you can just say country of origin. So the rule doesn’t seem to be about making you animal slaughterers feel queasy. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?"
No, because it may not have been processed in the same country it was slaughtered in. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
No, because it may not have been processed in the same country it was slaughtered in. "
You got this from from the previous poster |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
Why try to sanitise the the process with words that hide the facts?"
They are two different words that describe two different actions, they are not the same. |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
But it might be slaughtered and processed in different countries. If it’s born, bred, slaughtered, processed etc in the same country, you can just say country of origin. So the rule doesn’t seem to be about making you animal slaughterers feel queasy. "
- how many times is something slaughtered then processed in a different country?! Nonetheless, it's all part of the same process - choose the last country the meat was in (packaged) to say it was processed in |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
No, because it may not have been processed in the same country it was slaughtered in.
You got this from from the previous poster"
So I see.
I was scrolling down and thought I’d answer you and then when it posted I saw someone beat me too it.
You get why they are different though, do you |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
Why try to sanitise the the process with words that hide the facts?
They are two different words that describe two different actions, they are not the same. "
...the Irish meat I referenced said 'slaughtered in ireland' The same meat was also packaged etc in Ireland...so why just say 'slaughtered in Ireland' on the packaging?  |
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
But it might be slaughtered and processed in different countries. If it’s born, bred, slaughtered, processed etc in the same country, you can just say country of origin. So the rule doesn’t seem to be about making you animal slaughterers feel queasy.
- how many times is something slaughtered then processed in a different country?! Nonetheless, it's all part of the same process - choose the last country the meat was in (packaged) to say it was processed in "
Well within the UK it can be different.
To be called Scottish beef it has to be slaughtered there, it also has to have been reared there for a defined period of time by law, but it could then be processed in a meat processing plant over the border.
It just all to do with the legalities of what you can call things relating to where certain things have happened.
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"Already on Irish minced beef the label states 'slaughtered in Ireland'...is there really any need for the 'slaughtered' bit?! It's more than obvious what's happened
Yes.
It’s a legal requirement to state where it’s slaughtered if you want to use the country name in the selling process.
EG.
If you wanted to sell it as Scottish Beef you have to put a declaration that it was slaughtered in Scotland.
Wouldn't 'processed in..' do just as well?
But it might be slaughtered and processed in different countries. If it’s born, bred, slaughtered, processed etc in the same country, you can just say country of origin. So the rule doesn’t seem to be about making you animal slaughterers feel queasy.
- how many times is something slaughtered then processed in a different country?! Nonetheless, it's all part of the same process - choose the last country the meat was in (packaged) to say it was processed in
Well within the UK it can be different.
To be called Scottish beef it has to be slaughtered there, it also has to have been reared there for a defined period of time by law, but it could then be processed in a meat processing plant over the border.
It just all to do with the legalities of what you can call things relating to where certain things have happened.
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered? "
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging? |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging? "
Obviously I did |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
Obviously I did "
Just look at the quality of the meat. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging? "
You and most others I would suspect, but we all should be aware of what we are eating, whether it’s meat , veg , fruit or anything else, and it’s good to have traceability of food so there can be accountability. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
You and most others I would suspect, but we all should be aware of what we are eating, whether it’s meat , veg , fruit or anything else, and it’s good to have traceability of food so there can be accountability. "
I know what products I eat, I don't need to read the packaging of where it was made or what's in it. If it looks good and tastes good them that's enough for me. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
Obviously I did
Just look at the quality of the meat. "
Do you not think the packaging's relevant? I'm pretty sure most people like to be informed of what they're about to ingest. Saying something is 'slaughtered' doesn't put me off eating it, I just don't like the images this conjures up. As I said, it's obvious what's happened to the animal I don't want abbatoir images in my head whilst preparing it. Hypocritical? Yes I guess so *shrugs* |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
Obviously I did
Just look at the quality of the meat.
Do you not think the packaging's relevant? I'm pretty sure most people like to be informed of what they're about to ingest. Saying something is 'slaughtered' doesn't put me off eating it, I just don't like the images this conjures up. As I said, it's obvious what's happened to the animal I don't want abbatoir images in my head whilst preparing it. Hypocritical? Yes I guess so *shrugs* "
I went in early hours of morning to a abattoir to buy meat when I was in Thailand. It was a bit surreal being able to see the whole process going on as you walked around looking at the meat that had just been prepared. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
You and most others I would suspect, but we all should be aware of what we are eating, whether it’s meat , veg , fruit or anything else, and it’s good to have traceability of food so there can be accountability.
I know what products I eat, I don't need to read the packaging of where it was made or what's in it. If it looks good and tastes good them that's enough for me. "
doesn't that mean you don't know what products you eat? You don't know what's in it. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
You and most others I would suspect, but we all should be aware of what we are eating, whether it’s meat , veg , fruit or anything else, and it’s good to have traceability of food so there can be accountability.
I know what products I eat, I don't need to read the packaging of where it was made or what's in it. If it looks good and tastes good them that's enough for me.
doesn't that mean you don't know what products you eat? You don't know what's in it."
I just need to know what the main thing is, lean mince is lean mince. Beef steak is beef steak etc. |
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"Where was it born and bred?
But anyway, why are you so agitated by inclusion of the word slaughtered?
I don't care as long as my stomach is warm and fed.
Does anyone actually read the packaging?
You and most others I would suspect, but we all should be aware of what we are eating, whether it’s meat , veg , fruit or anything else, and it’s good to have traceability of food so there can be accountability.
I know what products I eat, I don't need to read the packaging of where it was made or what's in it. If it looks good and tastes good them that's enough for me. "
I guess so and at the end of the day then that’s enough for a lot of people.
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!"
shortage because of winter drought in Europe I read - so let's contribute more to global warming, sounds like a great idea. |
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
shortage because of winter drought in Europe I read - so let's contribute more to global warming, sounds like a great idea. "
Mmmmmm so let's put up hundreds acres polystyrene tunnels to grow out of season vegetables to then fly them around the world to help poor people out of poverty instead of letting them produce the food that they land and around them can sustainably grow.
Cow are not a problem heavy industry is but that to inconvenient for us to face because we all like a new car or a bigger TV..  |
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
shortage because of winter drought in Europe I read - so let's contribute more to global warming, sounds like a great idea.
Mmmmmm so let's put up hundreds acres polystyrene tunnels to grow out of season vegetables to then fly them around the world to help poor people out of poverty instead of letting them produce the food that they land and around them can sustainably grow.
Cow are not a problem heavy industry is but that to inconvenient for us to face because we all like a new car or a bigger TV.. "
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
shortage because of winter drought in Europe I read - so let's contribute more to global warming, sounds like a great idea. "
Mmmmmm so let's put up hundreds acres polystyrene tunnels to grow out of season vegetables to then fly them around the world to help poor people out of poverty instead of letting them produce the food that there land around them can sustainably grow.
Cow are not a problem heavy industry is but that to inconvenient for us to face because we all like a new car or a bigger TV.. |
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
shortage because of winter drought in Europe I read - so let's contribute more to global warming, sounds like a great idea.
Mmmmmm so let's put up hundreds acres polystyrene tunnels to grow out of season vegetables to then fly them around the world to help poor people out of poverty instead of letting them produce the food that they land and around them can sustainably grow.
Cow are not a problem heavy industry is but that to inconvenient for us to face because we all like a new car or a bigger TV..
spot-on "
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The good old 'woke' word strikes again, what is it with this shit, the latest trendy word to use to saturation point.....meat eaters of the world unite!! |
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"The good old 'woke' word strikes again, what is it with this shit, the latest trendy word to use to saturation point.....meat eaters of the world unite!!"
But I generally find "woke" is used pejoratively by reactionaries. e.g. meat eaters dismayed at it being brought to their attention that they're harming the environment. How can their use of the word woke be used as an argument for eating meat? |
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"The good old 'woke' word strikes again, what is it with this shit, the latest trendy word to use to saturation point.....meat eaters of the world unite!!"
I shot 3 deer this season 2 turkeys a duck 4 pheasant and 5 grouse.i admit hubby did better.  |
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"The good old 'woke' word strikes again, what is it with this shit, the latest trendy word to use to saturation point.....meat eaters of the world unite!! I shot 3 deer this season 2 turkeys a duck 4 pheasant and 5 grouse.i admit hubby did better. "
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Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. |
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"The good old 'woke' word strikes again, what is it with this shit, the latest trendy word to use to saturation point.....meat eaters of the world unite!!
But I generally find "woke" is used pejoratively by reactionaries. e.g. meat eaters dismayed at it being brought to their attention that they're harming the environment. How can their use of the word woke be used as an argument for eating meat?"
I agree it's nothing to do with woke.
But all non sustainable products imported from unsustainable factory farming should carry warning labels things like asparagus avocados everything containing palm oil and unsustainable grown meat such as factory farms in America and also grown in sustainable areas such as clearing rainforest to fatten beef.
But food would need to be double the price push good food out of the rech of poorer families  we need to look at sustainability not maet is bad vag has no protein there would also be a problem with food security with rich country buying up the food to let poor country suffer starvation.. |
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
Ermmm woke agenda on meat??
Are you trying to wind up people?"
First Tom thread? |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. "
lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ? |
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
Ermmm woke agenda on meat??
Are you trying to wind up people?
First Tom thread?"
Tom has really open a pack of meat balls here!!! |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. "
You condemning millions of people to die of starvation. |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is.
You condemning millions of people to die of starvation. "
Please explain ,? |
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It's all neat and pretty going to the supermarket. Oh look this animal was butchered in Ireland ( no offense) . Yet I been out hunting and seen whole herds decimated and dead from starvation in fields. I guess some people would say cull the human race to prevent that. |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ? "
They taste like pork apparently, I grab the apple sauce |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ?
They taste like pork apparently, I grab the apple sauce "
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is.
You condemning millions of people to die of starvation.
Please explain ,?"
Food shortages already wholesale charges we see a drop in production but its OK as it would only be the countries without a means to buy in foods.
Or we could slaughter our pet's as them guys are very bad for the planet dirty little meat eaters.
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ?
They taste like pork apparently, I grab the apple sauce lol no it tastes like venison. The back strap steaks are the best. "
I just love how the activist claim they helping the planet. When they not in certain aspects. |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ?
They taste like pork apparently, I grab the apple sauce lol no it tastes like venison. The back strap steaks are the best. "
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him. 
Say what now?
Leave them dogs alone! "
No it's a serious consideration we could easily cut the head of cattle pigs chicken catch less fish if we banned on coronavirus pets I would love to know what a vegan or even a vegetarian pet owner feel. |
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him. "
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him.
Say what now?
Leave them dogs alone!
No it's a serious consideration we could easily cut the head of cattle pigs chicken catch less fish if we banned on coronavirus pets I would love to know what a vegan or even a vegetarian pet owner feel."
It's never going to happen in this country, your dog is safe. |
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Oh no save the animals... I seen a whole herd dead in a field. Dead from starvation and climate. Because they can't sustain themselves. But go ahead bang on with supermarket bullshit. I hunt to preserve that so the next generation can thrive. Yet the majority goes to the fucking supermarket. Weird. Yup I am the villain . I gladly accept that presumptuous behavior. My freezers are full. |
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"Oh no save the animals... I seen a whole herd dead in a field. Dead from starvation and climate. Because they can't sustain themselves. But go ahead bang on with supermarket bullshit. I hunt to preserve that so the next generation can thrive. Yet the majority goes to the fucking supermarket. Weird. Yup I am the villain . I gladly accept that presumptuous behavior. My freezers are full.
I have venison last weekend it was good but a little deer... "
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"Oh no save the animals... I seen a whole herd dead in a field. Dead from starvation and climate. Because they can't sustain themselves. But go ahead bang on with supermarket bullshit. I hunt to preserve that so the next generation can thrive. Yet the majority goes to the fucking supermarket. Weird. Yup I am the villain . I gladly accept that presumptuous behavior. My freezers are full.
I have venison last weekend it was good but a little deer...
Don't get much for your buck. "
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"Oh no save the animals... I seen a whole herd dead in a field. Dead from starvation and climate. Because they can't sustain themselves. But go ahead bang on with supermarket bullshit. I hunt to preserve that so the next generation can thrive. Yet the majority goes to the fucking supermarket. Weird. Yup I am the villain . I gladly accept that presumptuous behavior. My freezers are full.
I have venison last weekend it was good but a little deer...
Don't get much for your buck. The difference between deer nuts and and beer nuts is one is under a buck. "
I've never heard of beer nuts till now, I even Googled just in case you meant to say bear nuts |
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ? "
Deer populations in the US and UK, as well as elsewhere, do need management. It's partly due to the loss of former predators and how we've impacted on the natural environment.
But the majority of human meat farming isn't from deer populations. Our over-reach into ever more virgin rainforest etc, clearances for human food production, with a tiny number of animal species grown due to our greed and lack of appropriate care, is reflective of our myopic vision. |
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I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him. "
I think it's something to consider. These pets are bred for domestication, and they consume meat that's produced for their consumption. So yep, seems inconsistent for vegans to have pets. |
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
Baldric will be happy. "
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"Mmmmmmmm shortage of out of season vegetables and we can not eat one thing the UK is very good at growing.
Look like it's turnips all round!
Baldric will be happy.
That's made the whole thread worth reading "
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"I happily eat bacon twice a week. a friend who is a fitness coach mentioned he has a bacon roll every morning and i pointed out the recent studies linking bacon (and other meats cured in nitrites) to cancer.
He has a recent degree in nutrition but said it was nonsense and he wasnt bothered. If someone like him doesn't believe it i think its a struggle to get "normal" people to believe it
2 bacon rolls in a week is moderation imho, 7 seems excessive.
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My father lived to a ripe age of 97, he ate meat all his life, ate a bacon roll every morning and grew up on meat sausages and mince.
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ?
Deer populations in the US and UK, as well as elsewhere, do need management. It's partly due to the loss of former predators and how we've impacted on the natural environment.
But the majority of human meat farming isn't from deer populations. Our over-reach into ever more virgin rainforest etc, clearances for human food production, with a tiny number of animal species grown due to our greed and lack of appropriate care, is reflective of our myopic vision. "
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?"
What's a woke scientist ? |
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him.
I think it's something to consider. These pets are bred for domestication, and they consume meat that's produced for their consumption. So yep, seems inconsistent for vegans to have pets."
Serve them vegan dog food |
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"Crazed woke scientists have suggested putting cigarette style warnings on packets of meat to meat their own woke agendas. What's going on here guys. It's all over the news ?
What's a woke scientist ?"
You need to be woke by my meat baby!! - see what I did? Smashed it again!! |
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"So Smooth ......
You will succumb eventually… youll be sitting filing your toenails with the angle grinder you got from the Aldi mystery aisle one day and think - i getting the hedge trimmer out - shaving my legs and trimming my moustache and I’m going to meet todger for coffee!!  "
Sadly , that's highly accurate. Apart from the meet Todger part of course. |
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"So Smooth ......
You will succumb eventually… youll be sitting filing your toenails with the angle grinder you got from the Aldi mystery aisle one day and think - i getting the hedge trimmer out - shaving my legs and trimming my moustache and I’m going to meet todger for coffee!!
Sadly , that's highly accurate. Apart from the meet Todger part of course. "
Considering… I think I got off quite lightly there xx and you know Dobbies is calling!! Xx |
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They put warning labels on cigarettes don’t suppose it stops smokers buying them so will a warning on meat turn everyone into a Vegan, not likely. It won’t make any difference to my choices. Anyway we can’t all go veggie there’s no veggie in the shops at the moment |
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him.
I think it's something to consider. These pets are bred for domestication, and they consume meat that's produced for their consumption. So yep, seems inconsistent for vegans to have pets.
Serve them vegan dog food "
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"What do other think of banning all carnivorous pets as a means to saving the planet?
I am genuinely interested I have a dog and would love to keep him.
I think it's something to consider. These pets are bred for domestication, and they consume meat that's produced for their consumption. So yep, seems inconsistent for vegans to have pets.
Serve them vegan dog food
But what will the vegans eat? "
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"Meat is costing us all, as well as the world, very dearly. And it's costing lives, which will increase exponentially as time progresses.
We can try to pretend many things, including that our choices and behaviour do not affect others. This is selfish, when we are causing harm and refuse to care.
I don't know what the proposed labels are suggested to include. I guess that the language and message isn't as strong and direct enough, that the actual harms would warrant.
We can play with words like 'woke', feigning ignorance, etc. We need to get real and to behave responsibly and as our maturity truly leads us to.
Humans are causing catastrophic harm to our world, including ourselves, by the pursuit of animal farming as we do. This approach is a choice - we could produce meat very differently. But it's still likely to be very harmful. It's a very inefficient use of land, energy and resources, that could be significantly better if deployed via alternative means.
Our meat production methods are largely something that shouts how stupid our species is. lol ok how are you going to control a deer population that can't sustain itself . Cull humans ?
Deer populations in the US and UK, as well as elsewhere, do need management. It's partly due to the loss of former predators and how we've impacted on the natural environment.
But the majority of human meat farming isn't from deer populations. Our over-reach into ever more virgin rainforest etc, clearances for human food production, with a tiny number of animal species grown due to our greed and lack of appropriate care, is reflective of our myopic vision. I never seen a cow in the wild. What do you suggest let them all run free? "
I'm sure there's a Harry Enfield sketch taking the piss out of such arguments. But I couldn't find it. |
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