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Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing. |
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing. "
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing.
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
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This kind of thing boils my piss. What does it matter?! He won’t be as good at football because he’s gay? The fact that “being exposed” for being gay is still a thing is feckin unbelievable. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing.
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
This kind of thing boils my piss. What does it matter?! He won’t be as good at football because he’s gay? The fact that “being exposed” for being gay is still a thing is feckin unbelievable. "
The mentality of the die hard at all costs football fans (a minority maybe but the core of the fan base and the loudest) we all know the type. |
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing.
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
This kind of thing boils my piss. What does it matter?! He won’t be as good at football because he’s gay? The fact that “being exposed” for being gay is still a thing is feckin unbelievable.
The mentality of the die hard at all costs football fans (a minority maybe but the core of the fan base and the loudest) we all know the type. "
I would hope it would be a minority. But yeah they’ll be the loudest. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing.
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
This kind of thing boils my piss. What does it matter?! He won’t be as good at football because he’s gay? The fact that “being exposed” for being gay is still a thing is feckin unbelievable.
The mentality of the die hard at all costs football fans (a minority maybe but the core of the fan base and the loudest) we all know the type.
I would hope it would be a minority. But yeah they’ll be the loudest. "
The majority will be those that say "we don't care just kick the fucking ball". Remaining will be empathetic towards the players, they will certainly be a minority. |
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Just look at the reaction to rainbow flags/armbands in the Premier League and you’ll know we’ve got a long way to go before gay people are fully accepted in football.
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Just look at the reaction to rainbow flags/armbands in the Premier League and you’ll know we’ve got a long way to go before gay people are fully accepted in football.
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I kind of just said it above but I'll say it again rephrased I guess since it's more relevant.
I don't think it's a case of not accepted by the majority, most fans don't actually care gay or straight they just don't want to hear about it. Very much a case of "shut up and kick the ball, we don't care".
As usual it's the media that stir it up. In the case of coming out though, I do think it's important to push that it is normalised and give courage to others to not hide. |
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing. "
It is brave, and he should be applauded for it. However this should not even be a issue anymore for anyone. The fact its such a big story is sad. |
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"Just look at the reaction to rainbow flags/armbands in the Premier League and you’ll know we’ve got a long way to go before gay people are fully accepted in football.
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I think those are separate issues though and perhaps a different thread. |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight."
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that? |
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"Jakub jankto, Czech International footballer comes out as gay and makes the news.
Now. On the one hand. What has his sexuality got to do with anyone else but himself.?
But.. I know how toxic the football environment can be so very brave for him to share that publicly. Hope it makes him happy for sharing.
It's a matter of time before a Premier League player is "exposed" either by media or a jealous ex, former colleague etc etc.
The law of averages says there is will be a number of gay players at least in the Premier League.
Unfortunately I don't see it being very well accepted by the football crowds. The governing bodies will try their best but the terraces or stands will not be as forgiving.
This kind of thing boils my piss. What does it matter?! He won’t be as good at football because he’s gay? The fact that “being exposed” for being gay is still a thing is feckin unbelievable. "
of course he will he loves his boyfriend to dribble with his balls  |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that? "
That too.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No one should have to come out in 2023. It’s ridiculous. But still necessary and especially in positions of influence.
A wealthy footballer can shield himself from the worst behaviour, but he is also giving a little bit of confidence to gay kids in their homes watching football with parents, mates. That it’s ok. And that’s important. Just a shame they won’t have the safety he has. |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
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That too. "
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I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
"
I agree. It’s deceitful no doubt about it.
I don’t think it means someone has issues with bi-sexuality though if they don’t want to be intimate with someone bi. I’m bi but prefer to meet straight men. |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
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I presume because he will still get to fuck the woman at least? Whereas if he told them he was bi he wouldnt get either of them? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just look at the reaction to rainbow flags/armbands in the Premier League and you’ll know we’ve got a long way to go before gay people are fully accepted in football.
I kind of just said it above but I'll say it again rephrased I guess since it's more relevant.
I don't think it's a case of not accepted by the majority, most fans don't actually care gay or straight they just don't want to hear about it. Very much a case of "shut up and kick the ball, we don't care".
As usual it's the media that stir it up. In the case of coming out though, I do think it's important to push that it is normalised and give courage to others to not hide."
I agree 100%. It’s always the vocal minority that shout the loudest. |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
I presume because he will still get to fuck the woman at least? Whereas if he told them he was bi he wouldnt get either of them? "
Well I'd not have a y interest in being with a person who I knew wouldn't want me if they knew the truth of me.
That'd be the ultimate turn off.
Guess that's just me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
"
I agree with you.
I also understand why some would lie about it though. Not necessarily to get a fuck under false pretences, just that they are scared (etc) to come out. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
I agree. It’s deceitful no doubt about it.
I don’t think it means someone has issues with bi-sexuality though if they don’t want to be intimate with someone bi. I’m bi but prefer to meet straight men. "
Definitely.
Whilst it definitely exists, I do think biphobia is overstated on here for thread bating.
A simple case of heterosexuality meaning zero attraction is less of a headline than pushing a hate agenda. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
I agree with you.
I also understand why some would lie about it though. Not necessarily to get a fuck under false pretences, just that they are scared (etc) to come out. "
I would agree.
I feel strongly that people should have control over their coming out.
The only thing that would be an issue with keeping it hidden is if they were to see a profile that says the person is only looking straight / straight and still pursues a connection knowing they themselves aren't straight.
It's all these grey areas where people need to act with integrity and perhaps won't to get the meet. |
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"I don't know why bisexual men on here prefer to have their profile listed as straight.
From reading previous threads on that and also from various females/couples, bisexual men are often specifically excluded from what they want to meet. So i guess they're hiding it to dodge that?
°°°
That too.
°°°
I think negotiating a connection under false pretenses is wrong on every level.
Besides the fact it's lying, you can't circumvent a person's free right to choose who they are intimate with.
Indefensible.
And it doesn’t matter what the other person's reasons are for not wishing to meet with a bi individual. That's a whole other conversation. The choice is theirs full stop.
Take their bias up in a seperate debate but don't try to con them.
Tbh I can't see why a bi person would ever wish to meet and be intimate with a person who had issues with bi-sexuality.
I agree. It’s deceitful no doubt about it.
I don’t think it means someone has issues with bi-sexuality though if they don’t want to be intimate with someone bi. I’m bi but prefer to meet straight men.
Definitely.
Whilst it definitely exists, I do think biphobia is overstated on here for thread bating.
A simple case of heterosexuality meaning zero attraction is less of a headline than pushing a hate agenda."
Definitely. Couldn’t agree with that more! |
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