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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The case of a missing white woman in Morecambe has made me realise the deep inbalance in our sociaty. I she is found safely BUT, shes is not the only missing person in the UK, yet the media is seemingly obsessed with blanketting us with coverage of this one case.
The term Missing White Woman Syndrome describes how Western media will focus on the murder, kid napping, or disappearance of Caucasian females — usually pretty, young, and middle- or upper-class — to the exclusion of male, minority, poor, and/or disabled missing persons.
The origin of the term is unclear. Although Professor Sheri Parks of the University of Maryland claims to have coined it circa 2005, it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that (Gwen Ifill used the term in a panel discussion in August 2004, for example). It's also been referred to as "missing pretty girl" syndrome and "Damsel in Distress" syndrome. In particular, the United States (and to a lesser extent Canada and the UK) has the AMBER Alert, which is a special alert code for child abductions and was named for the young white daughter of influential parents.
Do you think the coverage is fair across all ethnicity sex, and socia economic status? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Media coverage is not fair, or just in any way, shape or form.
Be that reporting on sports, politics, celebrities, to the serious reports as you mention, etc etc etc.
They seem to always have an agenda. |
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I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared. |
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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago
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"I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared."
You may be sick, but it doesn’t negate the fact that it’s very likely that if she was a different ethnicity OR gender there wouldn’t have been so much coverage of her disappearance.   |
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I think a lot of the coverage it’s gained is more down to the circs to be honest.
Some people love a ghoulish mystery hence all the tragedy tourists turning up at the scene |
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"I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared.
You may be sick, but it doesn’t negate the fact that it’s very likely that if she was a different ethnicity OR gender there wouldn’t have been so much coverage of her disappearance. "
I strongly disagree. People who's opinion matches yours are part of the problem. You fuel the black versus white/ female v male issues.In America the thought that police brutally of white officers versus black civilians was just that black versus white. That's just been proved to be wrong with black against black police brutality. Not a one size fits all discussion. |
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White, middle class = front page
Anyone, working class = just another dead body.
The mr |
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The media can and does, rile people up and stir up emotions that are often disingenuous but they're just trying to make money and they don't care about anything else! They just want to make people fight each other because it gets more clicks or sells more newspapers! Don't get me started!
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This is very well documented, and the facts support what you say. |
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"I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared."
Two black women were murdered in London less than three years ago, the police didn't even start a search after the families reported the missing..
The women's families started the search and that's how they were found..
Whilst it's one counter example to the sad case the op refers to, he has a point.. |
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"I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared.
Two black women were murdered in London less than three years ago, the police didn't even start a search after the families reported the missing..
The women's families started the search and that's how they were found..
Whilst it's one counter example to the sad case the op refers to, he has a point.."
So do i. Your reply just adds to the divide. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Media coverage is bias, in all sorts of areas. When do we have so much attention on the missing homeless, for example, or other marginalised members of our society? We don't.
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"Media coverage is not fair, or just in any way, shape or form.
Be that reporting on sports, politics, celebrities, to the serious reports as you mention, etc etc etc.
They seem to always have an agenda. "
Fear is and will remain one of the main drivers in human psyche. So if a news "story" has the bones of underlining fear the inducement of it will SELL! and that makes it "news worthy" other drivers are always there to but tge fundmentle ones lead to a frenzy. Sad but true. |
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"Do you think the coverage is fair across all ethnicity sex, and socia economic status?"
No it isn't fair or equal...on this matter and probably many other matters. But then a very important life lesson to remember is that life isn't fair or equal. |
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I won't get into a race debate but a couple of years ago the Irish media was filled with reports of a young woman brutally murdered and her name was on everyone's lips.
I remember commenting on a thread about how as a father the anger I felt at her loss but also how angry I was at the loss of a young man of exactly the same age in broad daylight just a few days before.
I was just as angry though that most people in that thread had to google the young mans name because they had no idea who he was because of how the media did not see his death as newsworthy. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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She is not the only white woman missing, there are lots. There doesn't seem any focus on the other women either.
There are also a lot of men missing, none of which seem highlighted either
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Lots of research has been done into the levels of disparity between white and BAME people in lots of situations, one look at pretty much any of it should convince anyone that you are far better off being white. |
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No idea why the media seems to focus on one case more than another.
There must be hundreds of missing people in the same situation that does not get the same coverage whatever their sex,colour or age is.
Maybe its to deflect us from other news.
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"The case of a missing white woman in Morecambe has made me realise the deep inbalance in our sociaty. I she is found safely BUT, shes is not the only missing person in the UK, yet the media is seemingly obsessed with blanketting us with coverage of this one case.
The term Missing White Woman Syndrome describes how Western media will focus on the murder, kid napping, or disappearance of Caucasian females — usually pretty, young, and middle- or upper-class — to the exclusion of male, minority, poor, and/or disabled missing persons.
The origin of the term is unclear. Although Professor Sheri Parks of the University of Maryland claims to have coined it circa 2005, it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that (Gwen Ifill used the term in a panel discussion in August 2004, for example). It's also been referred to as "missing pretty girl" syndrome and "Damsel in Distress" syndrome. In particular, the United States (and to a lesser extent Canada and the UK) has the AMBER Alert, which is a special alert code for child abductions and was named for the young white daughter of influential parents.
Do you think the coverage is fair across all ethnicity sex, and socia economic status?"
What race is she ? How do you know ? |
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"No idea why the media seems to focus on one case more than another.
There must be hundreds of missing people in the same situation that does not get the same coverage whatever their sex,colour or age is.
Maybe its to deflect us from other news.
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Have a Google of how many people go missing a year in the UK.... It is fucking mind blowing. |
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Had it have been a busier news day you
wouldn't have heard of this one either.
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"No idea why the media seems to focus on one case more than another.
There must be hundreds of missing people in the same situation that does not get the same coverage whatever their sex,colour or age is.
Maybe its to deflect us from other news.
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It's more simple than you think ..
1. What else is going on ?
2. What twist can be put on the story ?
3. Is there anyone nearby to take a few shots and do a few words.
4. Does it pique the interest of the public on social media ?
But most importantly can we be ahead of what the people are thirsting for and increase our figures and revenue.
If there had been something juicier you wouldn't have heard of this case either.
The News is a business and a politicised one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The case of a missing white woman in Morecambe has made me realise the deep inbalance in our sociaty. I she is found safely BUT, shes is not the only missing person in the UK, yet the media is seemingly obsessed with blanketting us with coverage of this one case.
The term Missing White Woman Syndrome describes how Western media will focus on the murder, kid napping, or disappearance of Caucasian females — usually pretty, young, and middle- or upper-class — to the exclusion of male, minority, poor, and/or disabled missing persons.
The origin of the term is unclear. Although Professor Sheri Parks of the University of Maryland claims to have coined it circa 2005, it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that (Gwen Ifill used the term in a panel discussion in August 2004, for example). It's also been referred to as "missing pretty girl" syndrome and "Damsel in Distress" syndrome. In particular, the United States (and to a lesser extent Canada and the UK) has the AMBER Alert, which is a special alert code for child abductions and was named for the young white daughter of influential parents.
Do you think the coverage is fair across all ethnicity sex, and socia economic status?"
I thought you were talking about TV adverts for a minute. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"No idea why the media seems to focus on one case more than another.
There must be hundreds of missing people in the same situation that does not get the same coverage whatever their sex,colour or age is.
Maybe its to deflect us from other news.
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Because it is the generally more "appealing" news story. Designed to gather attention and interest from the largest parts of the population. It has an appeal to reach the most people and hit home.
News is no different than any other TV show, ratings are what matters. Viewers for TV, visits to a page, buying a newspaper. The more the better. The fluff pieces are there to make it less focused and fill time/space. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt |
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"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt "
Does it not depend which country you're in? Which determines how or if the disappeared are reported at all and or what attract the most attention? (I appreciate we are mostly talking about UK here but mindful there are cultures and environments other than our own) |
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"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt "
Or how about over 80% of missing women in the UK are white and approx 14% of missing women in the UK are black ....
With SIX times more white women going missing .... I'd expect them to be reported SIX times more frequently |
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"I have not once heard this described as missing white woman .Just as you think reporting is unfair im sick of the reference towards the colour of someone's skin.This is a mother, wife ,daughter who has disappeared.
Two black women were murdered in London less than three years ago, the police didn't even start a search after the families reported the missing..
The women's families started the search and that's how they were found..
Whilst it's one counter example to the sad case the op refers to, he has a point..
So do i. Your reply just adds to the divide. "
Recognizing disparity and the issues that causes within society isn't adding to division, it's part of trying to close the gaps..
I never said you didn't, perhaps if you elaborate on the specific things that may help the debate?
What are you 'sick of'? |
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"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt
Or how about over 80% of missing women in the UK are white and approx 14% of missing women in the UK are black ....
With SIX times more white women going missing .... I'd expect them to be reported SIX times more frequently"
As usual. You make a great point. |
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"The case of a missing white woman in Morecambe has made me realise the deep inbalance in our sociaty. I she is found safely BUT, shes is not the only missing person in the UK, yet the media is seemingly obsessed with blanketting us with coverage of this one case.
The term Missing White Woman Syndrome describes how Western media will focus on the murder, kid napping, or disappearance of Caucasian females — usually pretty, young, and middle- or upper-class — to the exclusion of male, minority, poor, and/or disabled missing persons.
The origin of the term is unclear. Although Professor Sheri Parks of the University of Maryland claims to have coined it circa 2005, it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that (Gwen Ifill used the term in a panel discussion in August 2004, for example). It's also been referred to as "missing pretty girl" syndrome and "Damsel in Distress" syndrome. In particular, the United States (and to a lesser extent Canada and the UK) has the AMBER Alert, which is a special alert code for child abductions and was named for the young white daughter of influential parents.
Do you think the coverage is fair across all ethnicity sex, and socia economic status?"
Poor white get same coverage as black and Asian I just choose not to let it worrie me as should you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is also a man missing since 28th december..his name is Peter Baglin..his phone and headphones were found on a canal walk.
Pretty similar case but feck all about him in the papers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Like it or not, if you're female, white, pretty and considered middle class, you're getting all the coverage.
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt
Or how about over 80% of missing women in the UK are white and approx 14% of missing women in the UK are black ....
With SIX times more white women going missing .... I'd expect them to be reported SIX times more frequently"
No it’s white / pretty female privilege, otherwise each missing person would get the same media attention.
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"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt
Or how about over 80% of missing women in the UK are white and approx 14% of missing women in the UK are black ....
With SIX times more white women going missing .... I'd expect them to be reported SIX times more frequently
No it’s white / pretty female privilege, otherwise each missing person would get the same media attention.
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So why didn't all the other pretty white females get any media attention ?
This case was in the right place at the right time and public demand via social media will keep it there.
I'm not denying un-conscious or even conscious bias but the grasping of 'skin colour' by those that read ONE theory and speak of it as an absolute truth do harm to everyone.
It's simple chance and take up that this case got so much coverage. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"It’s another example of white privilege, pretty privilege - you’ll get more effort put into finding you if you go missing.
No sure why women though , maybe there’s a feeling of corporate guilt for how women are mistreated by society and this is a reaction from that guilt
Or how about over 80% of missing women in the UK are white and approx 14% of missing women in the UK are black ....
With SIX times more white women going missing .... I'd expect them to be reported SIX times more frequently
No it’s white / pretty female privilege, otherwise each missing person would get the same media attention.
So why didn't all the other pretty white females get any media attention ?
This case was in the right place at the right time and public demand via social media will keep it there.
I'm not denying un-conscious or even conscious bias but the grasping of 'skin colour' by those that read ONE theory and speak of it as an absolute truth do harm to everyone.
It's simple chance and take up that this case got so much coverage. "
It’s not grasping of 'skin colour' , white privilege is very real so is pretty privilege. It’s not offensive or attacking white pretty people either , it’s just a fact.
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I'm not denying it exists but in this case it IS just latching onto skin colour to make a point.
This case is widely covered due to a range of facts..... the heavens colliding if you like ....... not solely because she's perceived as caucasian. |
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P.S. I didn't think you were attacking anyone just pushing a singular theory as a truth. |
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"I'm not denying it exists but in this case it IS just latching onto skin colour to make a point.
This case is widely covered due to a range of facts..... the heavens colliding if you like ....... not solely because she's perceived as caucasian."
It is very much part of it though, it may not be the sole reason, as you say, but it’s a big part of it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"... it apparently has been in use among journalists (and Fark.com) for years before that ..."
I just want to say thanks for reminding me about Fark.com - used to spend HOURS on there  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't forget there's still a poor woman missing here, doesn't matter what colour she is it's still tragic for all concerned |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This isnt some junkie or runaway teen, it's a mother who disappeared while walking her dog in a quiet town. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No idea why the media seems to focus on one case more than another.
There must be hundreds of missing people in the same situation that does not get the same coverage whatever their sex,colour or age is.
Maybe its to deflect us from other news.
It's more simple than you think ..
1. What else is going on ?
2. What twist can be put on the story ?
3. Is there anyone nearby to take a few shots and do a few words.
4. Does it pique the interest of the public on social media ?
But most importantly can we be ahead of what the people are thirsting for and increase our figures and revenue.
If there had been something juicier you wouldn't have heard of this case either.
The News is a business and a politicised one."
^^^ this
Even the supposed 'impartial' BBC is biased.
It's not altruistic or fair, it's capitalism waging war with communism and all the other social and political 'isms.
Ain't life grand
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"This isnt some junkie or runaway teen, it's a mother who disappeared while walking her dog in a quiet town."
Which is far from unique?
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
I've said before the media coverage of this case, along with the police resources being used are completely disproportionate compared to even high risk missing person investigations.
I have no idea why but I'm fairly certain it's not just because she is white because plenty of white people go missing that don't receive this sort of treatment.
That's not on anyway defending the police or the media of institutional bias, it most definitely exists |
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October last year a local middle aged man who wasn't white but possible Asian (I won't speculate) with mental health issues was triggered while out shopping with his family and ran off. His disappearance was highlighted on local F@cebook pages, buisness windows and basic community word of mouth. I believe he was a man who was well liked had a good life large home ect. I saw the community set up searches with the police when a siting had been reported.
But I never once saw it on national news sites or TV... sadly he was found d two weeks ago and had to be identified by dental records  |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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October last year a local middle aged man who wasn't white but possible Asian (I won't speculate) with mental health issues was triggered while out shopping with his family and ran off. His disappearance was highlighted on local F@cebook pages, buisness windows and basic community word of mouth. I believe he was a man who was well liked had a good life large home ect. I saw the community set up searches with the police when a siting had been reported.
But I never once saw it on national news sites or TV... sadly he was found d two weeks ago and had to be identified by dental records "
This is the thing, local news and social media are much more likely to promote the stories of missing persons of any gender, race, age, or whatever else than the national news. Social media especially. |
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Is the media coverage bias?
Yes.
I have no statistics but i would imagine the number of men and women who go missing each day is far greater a number, to report equally on each.
Media is bias. Who would have thought it ? |
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"Is the media coverage bias?
Yes.
I have no statistics but i would imagine the number of men and women who go missing each day is far greater a number, to report equally on each.
Media is bias. Who would have thought it ?"
890 people reported missing each and every day. |
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Because most people simply go missing, no storey to with it.
Yes it helps that she’s pretty and middle class with children but it’s the bits that go with it. The dog abandoned, the phone left on a call on the bench and her seemingly just disappearing into thin air. It’s more like a script for some who’s done it, and that’s what gets the public gripped and sells papers. |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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Phew good to know if I ever go missing I'll hopefully be found fast with all the coverage it'll get...or better yet it'll act as a deterrent.
But seriously I think it's the mysterious circumstances around it that have interested people, regardless of who it is, we're invested and need to know what happened now! |
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October last year a local middle aged man who wasn't white but possible Asian (I won't speculate) with mental health issues was triggered while out shopping with his family and ran off. His disappearance was highlighted on local F@cebook pages, buisness windows and basic community word of mouth. I believe he was a man who was well liked had a good life large home ect. I saw the community set up searches with the police when a siting had been reported.
But I never once saw it on national news sites or TV... sadly he was found d two weeks ago and had to be identified by dental records "
It certainly didn’t get picked up by the nationals but was very well publicised locally.
Is it just because the missing lady has a bit more of an air of mysterious disappearance around it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is it just because the missing lady has a bit more of an air of mysterious disappearance around it? "
This is exactly it. it’s this simple. The media are feeding our hype, because we are interested in it. There were no threads about all the other missing people people have talked about above, it’s a circle between us and the media each moving the other to greater interest.
No-one is interested in quiet guy suddenly isn't around any more, or troubled teen disappears, or addict has gone missing - especially when people only start to realise they are missing days or weeks later because people weren’t interested…..
But attractive mother leaves phone still connected on a call and leaves dog in a field and dissapears in a short 10 minute window is crack to media and public, because it’s a real life Agatha Christie. Is there a single one of us that hasn’t proffered an opinion to *someone* about if you think she’s in the water or not? I doubt it. How many times did you sleuth the above less mysterious dissapearances? Not once.
We act like we’re fed this stuff, but we make it ourselves. |
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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago
Cardiff |
I really don't think the colour of someone's skin comes in to it. Please don't look for racist angling when there aren't any |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This isnt some junkie or runaway teen, it's a mother who disappeared while walking her dog in a quiet town."
Lovely. Fuck those junkies eh? Who cares about them! |
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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago
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"This isnt some junkie or runaway teen, it's a mother who disappeared while walking her dog in a quiet town.
Lovely. Fuck those junkies eh? Who cares about them! "
Or teenagers, I mean we all loathe them right?! |
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This story persists because the public want it to.
It's been said more than once in this thread.
YOU are part of what goes into the news.
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From start to finish all of your views are why your all disillusioned and think the world will live in harmony...
Black and white people are racist... |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"From start to finish all of your views are why your all disillusioned and think the world will live in harmony...
Black and white people are racist..."
Not all people are racist? |
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