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Is it seen as being homophobic if a man refuses to have sex with a transexual ?
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It depends, if it's all transsexuals on general principle, or just specific ones? I'm fairly open to having sex with everyone but I'm not a complete slut. I still have to have a connection and an attraction. |
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Personally if said person was the h word how did they arrive at the point where that is the next step, how far down the transition path have they gone there is lots of info you don't give which could sway the discussion either way |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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Nothing is any kind of phobic if you don't want to have sex with somebody.
Regardless of reasons or where certain views settle,or have roots in certain things nobody should ever be guilted or shamed in to not wanting to have sex with anyone. At all. Ever. |
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"Nothing is any kind of phobic if you don't want to have sex with somebody.
Regardless of reasons or where certain views settle,or have roots in certain things nobody should ever be guilted or shamed in to not wanting to have sex with anyone. At all. Ever. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Now just for the record... I identify as straight, although actually hetero-flexible.
There are some trans people out here, that are so feminine in looks, that I'd have no trouble in pleasuring them. |
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It’s say it’s more likely to be perceived as transphobic, although it’s not necessarily either.
I’ve read people say on here that anyone who doesn’t want to play with trans people is transphobic. I don’t think that’s always the case, but it some it will be, of course. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Never seen a single convincing trans person, maybe in a few decades the lones will blur but no its not homophobic, more a reluctance to stray out of your comfort zone |
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"Never seen a single convincing trans person, maybe in a few decades the lones will blur but no its not homophobic, more a reluctance to stray out of your comfort zone"
If they were "convincing" you wouldn't know they are trans......  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let’s break it down for a second (and fyi because I know tone is hard to read in texts/forums, this is intended as educational not attacking or sarcastic so I hope it reads that way)
Homophobic - let’s forget for a second the whole grammar thing about “phobic” being the wrong suffix. We all now it’s not a fear. If anything it should be “-ist” like racist, sexist etc but hey ho, it’s the word that’s used and it is what it is. Homophobic relates to anti gay sentiments which by definition is a sexuality. For the late comers, trans* is generally about gender not sexuality. Quite often the two go hand in hand but not always and maybe not even the majority of the time. I’m assuming you were going for transphobic ?
Transphobic - it’s a term that gets thrown around and seems to have become the new “as bad as hitler/nazi” of the internet I.E. whoever says it first has defcato lost the argument  in truth there are some clear transphobe within this community, I’m not going to call them out, they can do them and I’ll do me. Nothing I can say will change there mind on the topic but I have the power not to listen to them and hopefully put another side of the argument across to people who hopefully want to know more.
Not wanting relationships/physicality with transwomen/men - I can totally assure that if you don’t want to have this kind of intimacy with me because of who I am/what I was, the feeing will be absolutely mutual. Does that make either of us a bad person ? Absolutely not , we’re not compatible and that’s that. What would make someone a bad person is how they go about it.
Hopefully my weird ramblings make some kind of sense  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Never seen a single convincing trans person, maybe in a few decades the lones will blur but no its not homophobic, more a reluctance to stray out of your comfort zone
If they were "convincing" you wouldn't know they are trans...... "
And FYI, I’m not out to “convince” anyone of anything , I am me and am happy  |
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"Let’s break it down for a second (and fyi because I know tone is hard to read in texts/forums, this is intended as educational not attacking or sarcastic so I hope it reads that way)
Homophobic - let’s forget for a second the whole grammar thing about “phobic” being the wrong suffix. We all now it’s not a fear. If anything it should be “-ist” like racist, sexist etc but hey ho, it’s the word that’s used and it is what it is. Homophobic relates to anti gay sentiments which by definition is a sexuality. For the late comers, trans* is generally about gender not sexuality. Quite often the two go hand in hand but not always and maybe not even the majority of the time. I’m assuming you were going for transphobic ?
Transphobic - it’s a term that gets thrown around and seems to have become the new “as bad as hitler/nazi” of the internet I.E. whoever says it first has defcato lost the argument in truth there are some clear transphobe within this community, I’m not going to call them out, they can do them and I’ll do me. Nothing I can say will change there mind on the topic but I have the power not to listen to them and hopefully put another side of the argument across to people who hopefully want to know more.
Not wanting relationships/physicality with transwomen/men - I can totally assure that if you don’t want to have this kind of intimacy with me because of who I am/what I was, the feeing will be absolutely mutual. Does that make either of us a bad person ? Absolutely not , we’re not compatible and that’s that. What would make someone a bad person is how they go about it.
Hopefully my weird ramblings make some kind of sense "
Perfect sense x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would like to hear people's opinions about this please
Is it heterophobic if a woman refuses to have sex with a man. of course not, you cant be shamed into fucking anyone."
Exactly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let’s break it down for a second (and fyi because I know tone is hard to read in texts/forums, this is intended as educational not attacking or sarcastic so I hope it reads that way)
Homophobic - let’s forget for a second the whole grammar thing about “phobic” being the wrong suffix. We all now it’s not a fear. If anything it should be “-ist” like racist, sexist etc but hey ho, it’s the word that’s used and it is what it is. Homophobic relates to anti gay sentiments which by definition is a sexuality. For the late comers, trans* is generally about gender not sexuality. Quite often the two go hand in hand but not always and maybe not even the majority of the time. I’m assuming you were going for transphobic ?
Transphobic - it’s a term that gets thrown around and seems to have become the new “as bad as hitler/nazi” of the internet I.E. whoever says it first has defcato lost the argument in truth there are some clear transphobe within this community, I’m not going to call them out, they can do them and I’ll do me. Nothing I can say will change there mind on the topic but I have the power not to listen to them and hopefully put another side of the argument across to people who hopefully want to know more.
Not wanting relationships/physicality with transwomen/men - I can totally assure that if you don’t want to have this kind of intimacy with me because of who I am/what I was, the feeing will be absolutely mutual. Does that make either of us a bad person ? Absolutely not , we’re not compatible and that’s that. **What would make someone a bad person is how they go about it.**
Hopefully my weird ramblings make some kind of sense "
It makes sense. 
Especially ** |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)"
Know not no...feck sake the forum needs an edit button. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The answer to this lies on the reasons the man would give to the question. Everything else is just guess work.
BTW ..... Is it homophobic if a lesbian refused to have sex with a transexual ?"
Just one other thought whilst it crosses my mind. I know it’s not meant this way but the whole talk of “refuses” to sleep with someone …. Everyone has the right to refuse anyone for no reason , that’s consent people |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No. We all have choices and preferences. Shouldn’t label people for what choices they make. To be blunt, you could say I prefer crack to cock. Therefore trans would fall in one or the other. And a phobia is being afraid of something. Not what people choose. |
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"What kid of rediculous question is that op? Next it will be, if you don't have sex with black men your racist! "
LOL The Today's definition of Racist is You are already Racist for mentioning the word Black. Very strange world we live in these days. |
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)
^ Speak for yourself"
Yeah not all us ride anything into battle |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Sounds like a silly question I know. But I was in the pub with my business partner last night and he said he chatted with a transexual on a vanilla app and he was called transphobic because he said he didn't want to have sex.
So I thought I would throw the question into the forums and see what the fine people of fab have to say.
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)
^ Speak for yourself
Yeah not all us ride anything into battle "
I'd be having a lot more sex if I didn't say no, goes without saying that some guys will sleep with anyone that offers though but there's women that will do that also |
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"Sounds like a silly question I know. But I was in the pub with my business partner last night and he said he chatted with a transexual on a vanilla app and he was called transphobic because he said he didn't want to have sex.
So I thought I would throw the question into the forums and see what the fine people of fab have to say.
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Sounds like they got butt hurt for being turned down to me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)"
Heterophobic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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That information should be shared because, at the end of the day, regardless of what medical procedure they've gone through, their DNA/chromosomes/testosterone are still male.
You'll still be fucking a biological male.
The tits and vagina is just window decoration. |
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"How would someone know if a post-op transexual was unless they were told?  "
I'm assuming there's no self lubrication or g spot, no periods or regular complaints of headaches when they aren't in the mood and they can wash and be ready to go out within 10 minutes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nothing is any kind of phobic if you don't want to have sex with somebody.
Regardless of reasons or where certain views settle,or have roots in certain things nobody should ever be guilted or shamed in to not wanting to have sex with anyone. At all. Ever. "
Well said |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's always going to be a divide between those who are able or willing to adjust their view of a person to/from their pre/post trans identity.
Whether you think it is right or wrong, some will only ever see them as they were and depending on the sexualities involved that will either suit or not suit their sexual choices and preferences. Which each person is free to express and respect.
Respect is the bottom line really.
If there's no hate, hurt or harm there's no issue. Just live and let live with respect. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How would someone know if a post-op transexual was unless they were told?
I'm assuming there's no self lubrication or g spot, no periods or regular complaints of headaches when they aren't in the mood and they can wash and be ready to go out within 10 minutes "
perhaps without the
wash-n-go
in ten mins, every fella I've had takes as long or longer than I do to get ready! |
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"I would like to hear people's opinions about this please"
Didnt realise sex with others was compulsory to ensure you tick the right boxes of not homophobic . No. Of course its not. In the same way as sex with a black or Asian or white person does not make you racist. Refusing to have sex with women makes you a misogynist? |
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"How would someone know if a post-op transexual was unless they were told?
I'm assuming there's no self lubrication or g spot, no periods or regular complaints of headaches when they aren't in the mood and they can wash and be ready to go out within 10 minutes
perhaps without the
wash-n-go
in ten mins, every fella I've had takes as long or longer than I do to get ready! "
They were dragging it out so they weren't waiting around I reckon  |
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"What kid of rediculous question is that op? Next it will be, if you don't have sex with black men your racist!
LOL The Today's definition of Racist is You are already Racist for mentioning the word Black. Very strange world we live in these days."
Isn't it you're racist unless you repeatedly state you're anti racist and take a knee at every opportunity. You're part of the problem etc etc. Live and let live is no longer tolerated. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What kid of rediculous question is that op? Next it will be, if you don't have sex with black men your racist!
LOL The Today's definition of Racist is You are already Racist for mentioning the word Black. Very strange world we live in these days.
Isn't it you're racist unless you repeatedly state you're anti racist and take a knee at every opportunity. You're part of the problem etc etc. Live and let live is no longer tolerated. "
Lets leave the politics.at the door with our clothes folks shall we.  |
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It's not homophobics at all.
I won't have sex with Gay men. Not because I'm homophones but because I'm straight.
I never thought I'd have sex with a transexual but then even now they are portrayed as women with beards but some are stunning. I remember Kylie Grealish who used to come in the forums was one of the most beautiful people I ever saw
It's like anything, you can't control who you find attractive.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How would someone know if a post-op transexual was unless they were told?
I'm assuming there's no self lubrication or g spot, no periods or regular complaints of headaches when they aren't in the mood and they can wash and be ready to go out within 10 minutes
perhaps without the
wash-n-go
in ten mins, every fella I've had takes as long or longer than I do to get ready!
They were dragging it out so they weren't waiting around I reckon "
more than likely! |
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"What kid of rediculous question is that op? Next it will be, if you don't have sex with black men your racist!
LOL The Today's definition of Racist is You are already Racist for mentioning the word Black. Very strange world we live in these days.
Isn't it you're racist unless you repeatedly state you're anti racist and take a knee at every opportunity. You're part of the problem etc etc. Live and let live is no longer tolerated.
Lets leave the politics.at the door with our clothes folks shall we. "
What's political about that? It's cultural not political. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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It would possibly be transphobic if you fancied the pants off them otherwise.
If they had aspects which were less attractive to you, then no - it’s perfectly fine to be “straight” and nobody is challenging that.
Not finding someone attractive is different to stirring up hatred of them based upon a single attribute.
Similarly, not fancying someone who happens to be of a particular race would be different to saying all people of that race are unattractive. And how could you possibly know? |
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This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic. |
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic."
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here. |
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By *an4funMan
over a year ago
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here."
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?"
Take your pick tbh. You’d need additional criteria to narrow it down a bit |
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here.
Old-bald-guy-phobic"
Hey I resemble that remark I'm shocked and offended 
Seriously though it's just a personal preference if done without malice or not intended to offend it's a choice that we all have a right to.
You can say no without it meaning your something. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What's the point of trying to force someone who doesn't like you in a sexual manner to have sex with you through guilt tripping or attempting to cancel them with accusations of identity-based phobias?
Questions like the one the OP has asked only exist because people can't just take no for an answer. As someone rightly pointed out, it's either consensual sex or NC/the R word, no two ways about it.
Instead of wasting time trying to convince any individual or demographic predisposed against you to give you a chance with them, I'd rather spend my time seeking out people who want me for me without any hang ups or preconditions. |
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Being gay and trans isn't the same thing? I think it's a personal choice who someone wants to sleep with. It's not necessarily about their sexuality etc doesn't make you bad everything is a choice. x |
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here."
Are you often discriminated against based on who you are? You can wear a wig or get a hair transplant and you can lose weight, you can't change the fact you're Trans.
If someone's type was overweight, balding men and they wouldn't sleep with an overweight, balding post-op Trans man, even if they had the same functionality as a Cis man, then that would be an equitable comparison. What you said is not an equitable comparison. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What's the point of trying to force someone who doesn't like you in a sexual manner to have sex with you through guilt tripping or attempting to cancel them with accusations of identity-based phobias?
Questions like the one the OP has asked only exist because people can't just take no for an answer. As someone rightly pointed out, it's either consensual sex or NC/the R word, no two ways about it.
Instead of wasting time trying to convince any individual or demographic predisposed against you to give you a chance with them, I'd rather spend my time seeking out people who want me for me without any hang ups or preconditions. "
Nobody is trying to "force" anyone into having sex with them, for any reason. Nor is anyone trying to "cancel" anyone. Nor has anyone been "accused" of anything. Nor is anyone trying to "convince" anyone to sleep with them. Maybe stop making up fake scenarios to be annoyed about?  |
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here.
Old-bald-guy-phobic
Hey I resemble that remark I'm shocked and offended
Seriously though it's just a personal preference if done without malice or not intended to offend it's a choice that we all have a right to.
You can say no without it meaning your something."
You'd think so |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here."
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's simply a matter of a persons right to know.
Some may think it's none of anyone's business, and generally this is true.
However, it becomes your business if you've made plans to have sex with 'her'.
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Not read the whole thread, so maybe repeating something already mentioned. But most gay men aren't attracted to tv/ts/cd and would never have sex with them.
I find it mostly bi men or straight curious men interested in trans girls. |
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? "
No, simply because of the testosterone in their bodies and the general superior muscle structure.
What's that swimmers name, I can't remember?
'She' was average at best when swimming as a biological man, so decided to transition to female and surprise surprise, started winning as a female swimmer. |
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"This is one of those questions where context is everything.
If she's post-op and you didn't want to have sex with her solely on the basis that she is Trans (as in, you experienced attraction to her in every other way, just as you would with a Cis woman who was your type) then yeah that's blatantly transphobic.
If she's pre-op and you have a genital preference then that's absolutely fine and you're perfectly entitled to a genital preference.
If you meet the person with disgust or you recoil at them for being Trans then that is transphobic regardless of what words you use to dress it up, likewise if you seem polite but use words that indicate you're being transphobic, the same way it would be fatphobic if you rejected a fat person for their body in the same manner.
It's a situation with near-infinite room for nuance, but ultimately you're entitled to your preferences, whatever they may be.
Tl;dr: It's only Transphobia if you're Transphobic.
So as a middle aged bloke with a beard a bit overweight and balding if I asked a Trans woman to have sex with me and she said no what does that make her?
Just playing devils advocate here.
Are you often discriminated against based on who you are? You can wear a wig or get a hair transplant and you can lose weight, you can't change the fact you're Trans.
If someone's type was overweight, balding men and they wouldn't sleep with an overweight, balding post-op Trans man, even if they had the same functionality as a Cis man, then that would be an equitable comparison. What you said is not an equitable comparison. "
You can change the fact you’re trans though. It has happened before and will happen again. |
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"Is there was a prize for silly questions; this one would be up for an award."
You should check out the other posts.
This one is quite sensible compared to a lot of others. |
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? "
Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender. |
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender."
An arguement could be made for allowing trans people to mix in other sports. Ones where physical strength isn't so much of an issue.
Archery and shooting being two examples. |
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender.
An arguement could be made for allowing trans people to mix in other sports. Ones where physical strength isn't so much of an issue.
Archery and shooting being two examples."
Can we please keep the discussion to the point of OP’s question? Pretty sure he wasn’t asking about trans issues and sports?  |
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender.
An arguement could be made for allowing trans people to mix in other sports. Ones where physical strength isn't so much of an issue.
Archery and shooting being two examples.
Can we please keep the discussion to the point of OP’s question? Pretty sure he wasn’t asking about trans issues and sports? "
It's the nature of conversation/discussion to evolve to include other aspects related to the main issue.
Just like in real life.
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"Can we please keep the discussion to the point of OP’s question? Pretty sure he wasn’t asking about trans issues and sports?
It's the nature of conversation/discussion to evolve to include other aspects related to the main issue.
Just like in real life.
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Maybe, but there’s also the general internet/forum etiquette of not derailing threads.
At the risk of being guilty of thread derailing this thread myself, may I politely suggest you consider creating a separate thread or add to the existing threads on trans sports if you’re not adding to the context of the OP ?
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender."
Well yes...here's a good example of eilish mccolgan saying exactly that..
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/64460705
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"But can they compete in the women's athletics? Personally, I'd say no for male to female transitions. Mainly for the physical advantages going through puberty and riding that testosterone dragon gives you. It should be a definite no if that sport involves any sort of combat.
I'm sure a lot of female athletes feel similar but are afraid to speak out because of the labels attached to them for doing so.
There is a reason why we split sports by gender.
An arguement could be made for allowing trans people to mix in other sports. Ones where physical strength isn't so much of an issue.
Archery and shooting being two examples.
Can we please keep the discussion to the point of OP’s question? Pretty sure he wasn’t asking about trans issues and sports? "
Yes apologies for going off piste op. |
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)
^ Speak for yourself
Yeah not all us ride anything into battle
I'd be having a lot more sex if I didn't say no, goes without saying that some guys will sleep with anyone that offers though but there's women that will do that also "
You say that as if say yes when offered is a bad thing. You only live once, enjoy what you can when you can as often as you can. You're a long time dead. |
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"Of course not, does a man or woman saying no to sex with someone of their opposite sex make them hetrophobic?
(Ok, yes we all no a man will never say no to sex)
^ Speak for yourself
Yeah not all us ride anything into battle
I'd be having a lot more sex if I didn't say no, goes without saying that some guys will sleep with anyone that offers though but there's women that will do that also
You say that as if say yes when offered is a bad thing. You only live once, enjoy what you can when you can as often as you can. You're a long time dead. "
Sleeping with absolutely anyone that offers is a bad thing, I wouldn't enjoy sleeping with just anyone |
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