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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Has anyone seen the film? Cate Blanchett is definitely going to win the Oscars. I found the whole message of the film intriguing - separating the art from the artist. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"This is her role.
Its an amazing year for women in film. All women nominated play extremely difficult and flawed characters. I love it, finally. "
Agreed! I love to see more strong female characters like this rather than the films like 355. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Think it will be Michelle Yeoh tbf Blanchett would just chuck it in the back room with the others"
Michelle Yeoh was terrific too. But Tar has everything that the Oscar committee usually looks for |
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By *tar80sWoman
over a year ago
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"This is her role.
Its an amazing year for women in film. All women nominated play extremely difficult and flawed characters. I love it, finally.
Agreed! I love to see more strong female characters like this rather than the films like 355."
Have you seen women talking?
So infuriating. It's just so so raw. And it just hurts to know that nothing has really changed. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"This is her role.
Its an amazing year for women in film. All women nominated play extremely difficult and flawed characters. I love it, finally.
Agreed! I love to see more strong female characters like this rather than the films like 355.
Have you seen women talking?
So infuriating. It's just so so raw. And it just hurts to know that nothing has really changed. "
Not yet. Just catching up on all Oscar nominations. Is it good?
Michelle Williams in Fabelmans was also a great! |
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Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
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"Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
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I don't think it's an ode to a person. At no point did they say that she is someone to look up to. The point they are making is that she is a bad person for sure. She is also very good at the art. Can you differentiate between the art and the artist? How bad should a person be, in order to throw away their art no matter how good it is? They also draw some good parallels with the cancel culture. |
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"Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
I don't think it's an ode to a person. At no point did they say that she is someone to look up to. The point they are making is that she is a bad person for sure. She is also very good at the art. Can you differentiate between the art and the artist? How bad should a person be, in order to throw away their art no matter how good it is? They also draw some good parallels with the cancel culture."
Of course everything isn’t binary. But we aren’t talking about someone cheating on her wife only there. Someone killed herself due to the lack of interest she has received after she fucked her.
So yes, I believe that in that case, the artist is the wo -man and vice versa.
And the cancel culture is born from the voiceless.
Ppl like her has a voice that is taken into consideration to the point that she can treat others like shit and get away with it because she is producing great art.
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"Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
I don't think it's an ode to a person. At no point did they say that she is someone to look up to. The point they are making is that she is a bad person for sure. She is also very good at the art. Can you differentiate between the art and the artist? How bad should a person be, in order to throw away their art no matter how good it is? They also draw some good parallels with the cancel culture.
Of course everything isn’t binary. But we aren’t talking about someone cheating on her wife only there. Someone killed herself due to the lack of interest she has received after she fucked her.
So yes, I believe that in that case, the artist is the wo -man and vice versa.
And the cancel culture is born from the voiceless.
Ppl like her has a voice that is taken into consideration to the point that she can treat others like shit and get away with it because she is producing great art.
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Again, they are not saying she should get away with it. They should be punished. They do not try to show her in good shades. Her own family hates her. There is a scene where she washes her feet in disgust after visiting her neighbour's house. So yeah she is a terrible person. But she is terrific at music.
The question is do you still find the art interesting? That scene with her student Max tells the gist of the film. Should one hate Bach's music just because he is a bad person? |
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"Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
I don't think it's an ode to a person. At no point did they say that she is someone to look up to. The point they are making is that she is a bad person for sure. She is also very good at the art. Can you differentiate between the art and the artist? How bad should a person be, in order to throw away their art no matter how good it is? They also draw some good parallels with the cancel culture.
Of course everything isn’t binary. But we aren’t talking about someone cheating on her wife only there. Someone killed herself due to the lack of interest she has received after she fucked her.
So yes, I believe that in that case, the artist is the wo -man and vice versa.
And the cancel culture is born from the voiceless.
Ppl like her has a voice that is taken into consideration to the point that she can treat others like shit and get away with it because she is producing great art.
Again, they are not saying she should get away with it. They should be punished. They do not try to show her in good shades. Her own family hates her. There is a scene where she washes her feet in disgust after visiting her neighbour's house. So yeah she is a terrible person. But she is terrific at music.
The question is do you still find the art interesting? That scene with her student Max tells the gist of the film. Should one hate Bach's music just because he is a bad person?"
Well the fact she is bad person does colour my perspective on her art. Yes definitely. I can’t listen to R Kelly anymore knowing what he had done. Now, his music has another taste completely.
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"Well, I honestly didn’t find it as appealing as the critics made it sound. A déjà vu.
I found the whole thing inappropriate. This ode to a person in position of power who, indeed, produce something of great value- artistically speaking- but uses one’s power to take advantage of vulnerable individuals to satisfy one’s need of sexual gratification was odd and ill-suited.
The worst is that she goes on with her life as if nothing has ever happened.
Aside my own perspective on the artist/(wo)man dichotomy, the movie was slow and insipid. Cate’s performance was certainly of quality but didn’t think it deserve an Oscar.
I don't think it's an ode to a person. At no point did they say that she is someone to look up to. The point they are making is that she is a bad person for sure. She is also very good at the art. Can you differentiate between the art and the artist? How bad should a person be, in order to throw away their art no matter how good it is? They also draw some good parallels with the cancel culture.
Of course everything isn’t binary. But we aren’t talking about someone cheating on her wife only there. Someone killed herself due to the lack of interest she has received after she fucked her.
So yes, I believe that in that case, the artist is the wo -man and vice versa.
And the cancel culture is born from the voiceless.
Ppl like her has a voice that is taken into consideration to the point that she can treat others like shit and get away with it because she is producing great art.
Again, they are not saying she should get away with it. They should be punished. They do not try to show her in good shades. Her own family hates her. There is a scene where she washes her feet in disgust after visiting her neighbour's house. So yeah she is a terrible person. But she is terrific at music.
The question is do you still find the art interesting? That scene with her student Max tells the gist of the film. Should one hate Bach's music just because he is a bad person?
Well the fact she is bad person does colour my perspective on her art. Yes definitely. I can’t listen to R Kelly anymore knowing what he had done. Now, his music has another taste completely.
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Exactly! I have listened to plenty of songs back in India the lyrics of which were written by a guy who has been swamped in metoo allegations. But I could not stop listening to those songs because they played a big part in my childhood and there is no way I can move on from them. There are people trying to smear Harry Potter because of JK Rowling. But many kids still consider Harry Potter as their favourite books.
This is exactly the topic that the film touches. |
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