We often see in these threads bombastic statements blasted out as facts, many of them cruelly aimed at individuals... And very wide of the mark. Most often I'd hope nobody would actually say them to the individuals face.
Is this on the increase? And is it because people genuinely believe the words they write.? Or are they doing it for reaction to spark conflict? Debate? |
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I don't think it's on the increase. I think in the past people said cruel things to their group of friends, who had the same mindset as them as it was safe. Now they can do it even more safely via the internet anonymously. |
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"We often see in these threads bombastic statements blasted out as facts, many of them cruelly aimed at individuals... And very wide of the mark. Most often I'd hope nobody would actually say them to the individuals face.
Is this on the increase? And is it because people genuinely believe the words they write.? Or are they doing it for reaction to spark conflict? Debate? "
I think it is on the increase simply because the internet provides a huge platform from which to launch these sorts of statements and people who aren't in the habit of questioning what they're told or hear just repeat anything that remotely chimes with any half formed idea they have. Previously it was a soap box at Speakers Corner with a limited audience or a stiff letter to The Times.
I don't know if everyone believes what they write wholeheartedly because when questioned they respond with phrases such as "do your own research" or "prove me wrong". This implies to me that whatever they're saying hasn't been thought through or they're not entirely sure of the facts behind it.
Yes they are doing it to provoke a reaction and cause conflict. Debate isn't a concept they're familiar with.
Only a small proportion of these kind of people will say these things in person but I think we've all come across those who will. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"We often see in these threads bombastic statements blasted out as facts, many of them cruelly aimed at individuals... And very wide of the mark. Most often I'd hope nobody would actually say them to the individuals face.
Is this on the increase? And is it because people genuinely believe the words they write.? Or are they doing it for reaction to spark conflict? Debate? "
Define 'often' because its extremely rare that abuse gets thrown at specific individuals in the forums, largely because the vast majority just don't do that and secondly because the mods are usually quick to clamp down on it, delete posts and/or threads or close them down for sanitys sake.
Do people get heated and passionate in discussions? Of course. But most 'bombastic statements blasted out as facts' that I've seen are the opening posts, thrown in as hand grenades by OP's who scuttle off to sit back and watch rather than defend their viewpoints. People can be quite vocal in their opinions and appear at times intolerant of differing views, but at times there are threads where the subject at hand isn't really one that those with any form moral compass could ever support or defend, so that's understandable.
People are entitled to whatever viewpoint they hold. But some topics are always going to be viewed negatively by the majority no matter how many times they're rehashed and worded in different ways. Anyone that's spent any time here will know that just from reading any threads on Tate, flashing truckers, cheating, gender reassignment....and don't get me started on the virus and politics forums.
Do people genuinely believe the words they write? I'd bloody hope so. I'm sure some post for attention and to get a reaction, throwing bait posts out to tempt others to react negatively, but they're usually obvious trolls. But the majority will speak (or type) as they feel.
There are definitely some professional victims on here, who will look to twist words to suit their own agenda and jump on threads to claim they're 'man-bashing' or targeting huge sectors of either the fab population or society at large, when they're quite clearly calling out the specific behaviour of a tiny minority. Likewise the words 'woke', 'brainwashed', 'lefty' and 'sheep' are thrown around whenever someone is unable to form a coherent argument on any subject where someone appears to be the slightest bit empathetic or tolerant towards minorities or where they challenge the government in any way, shape or form.
A long waffle from me, yes. But I disagree that any individual abuse or insults are at all widespread or on the increase on Fab. But that's how I see things. Other views will of course differ......
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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago
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Can you give an example?
I know I have been accused by one person that some of my posts have been aimed at them, even if they were not.
However, in my view if you can see yourself in what someone says then you should likely take stock of your behaviour before the comments are aimed at you! |
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I've seen a number of people on here react privately to forum comments they believe are aimed directly at them.
I've also made comments here and some have told others I'm targeting them but as already said above if you can see your reflection in critical comments you obviously are guilty of the accusations to some degree even if they are generalisations.
I haven't noticed an increase in it though.
This has been going on as long as I've been here and is compounded and expanded in external chatgroups.
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There’s a few on here that only seem to post on the controversial threads in an attempt to get a rise. I’m guilty of biting once or twice but when I think about it I actually feel sorry for them. |
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"I'm not sure I'm allowed to directly quote across threads... But a quick read of the Harry and Meghan threads.. Royal family are xxxxx, all tories are xxxxx, Frank Lampard is xxxx.. I could go on "
Oh I tend to avoid anything political or controversial so haven't witnessed it thankfully |
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"I'm not sure I'm allowed to directly quote across threads... But a quick read of the Harry and Meghan threads.. Royal family are xxxxx, all tories are xxxxx, Frank Lampard is xxxx.. I could go on "
Those are the sort of people who are easily triggered and go on a rant about why they wouldn't watch shite like Love Island but seem to know a lot about it.
Celebs and wannabes do nothing for me and they are an insignificance in my daily life just as the Royal family are which is why I don't post in those threads or even read them.
Some people just like using their opinions as a big stick to bash others with or belittle them because they have a different outlook. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"I'm not sure I'm allowed to directly quote across threads... But a quick read of the Harry and Meghan threads.. Royal family are xxxxx, all tories are xxxxx, Frank Lampard is xxxx.. I could go on "
Hang on. Have I completely misunderstood the thread? Are you talking about people commenting on celebrities/people in the public eye or site members?
My original answer related to the latter.
If you meant the former then that's a different kettle of fish completely!
Anyone in the public eye is, and always has been even before the internet, bound to have those that support and admire them as well as those the can't stand them and think they're a waste of oxygen. The degree to how polarised views are will often depend on what they do and who they are, hence the likes of Tate, Harry & Meghan and most politicians will have highly vocal supporters and detractors, sometimes in equal measures and sometimes considerably more haters dependant on their behaviour, actions and lifestyles.
That's life in the public eye. Politics and sport will always have polarised opinions influenced by allegiance and affiliation so there little surprise that some comments and opinions are harsher than others.
To think everyone will like everyone in life is a tad naieve and the truth of the matter is that some people deserve the hatred and condemnation they seem to garner both in life and in online chat forums such as this. Some people are just humongous fucknuggets.
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