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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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Thousands of schools in england and wales are set to close in february after teachers voted to strike, union leaders have announced, as nurses also prepare for further stoppages.
What do you think of the strikes? As so many schools will be closed, how will the pupils get their education during this time? You can copy and paste from the other tread too 
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Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
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"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
Maybe I'll become a tube driver instead then. Better pay at least!
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Homeschooler here. Not bovvered  "
I moved near a decent state school & they did just fine.
Let them strike , kids work far too hard on mostly irrelevant and outdated curriculum as is.
I banned homework in my house until A levels and regularly took them off travelling for a month or two at a time and they did fine & got into top RG universities.
Happy kids learn without much effort , GCSE can be passed just by reading the text books, dint really need teachers until A level |
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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS
over a year ago
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Ah that will do for the kids then
If covid didn’t fuck up the next 5-6 years of school leavers then a couple of days off won’t hurt em will it ?
Written as Tounge in cheek sarcastic humour
Wtf is the government playing at
We seem to have lost the last 4 decades and landed in the 70s
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Homeschooler here. Not bovvered
I moved near a decent state school & they did just fine.
Let them strike , kids work far too hard on mostly irrelevant and outdated curriculum as is.
I banned homework in my house until A levels and regularly took them off travelling for a month or two at a time and they did fine & got into top RG universities.
Happy kids learn without much effort , GCSE can be passed just by reading the text books, dint really need teachers until A level "
School is colossally shit for a lot of reasons. Eldest is hanging onto a college place by the skin of her teeth doing gcse reruns, with only a few hours of maths and english a week that they are pretty much self led on. Youngest will be quite happy to never see a gcse. |
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A lot of teachers would be happy never to see a GCSE again, to be fair. Being able to teach our subject without being constrained by "teaching to the test" and having to teach certain topics in a prescribed way, with little to no emphasis on practical work (in science) and without the pressure of targets for grades etc.
Currently, almost all our physics students have to achieve A* at A level equivalent to get into the uni courses they want. It's impossible for several hundred physics students to all achieve A*. |
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"A lot of teachers would be happy never to see a GCSE again, to be fair. Being able to teach our subject without being constrained by "teaching to the test" and having to teach certain topics in a prescribed way, with little to no emphasis on practical work (in science) and without the pressure of targets for grades etc.
Currently, almost all our physics students have to achieve A* at A level equivalent to get into the uni courses they want. It's impossible for several hundred physics students to all achieve A*."
I taught Science for over 20 years. Schools demand excellence whilst giving you average pay and average pupils in below average facilities. It's great to be aspirational but it wears you out.
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
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Yeah I couldn’t do it. I’ve never had a full time contract that stated I must work 190 -195 days a year , max 48 hours a week. I’d get bored and need a second job |
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"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
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Yeah I couldn’t do it. I’ve never had a full time contract that stated I must work 190 -195 days a year , max 48 hours a week. I’d get bored and need a second job "
The good news is that most teachers work far more than that |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Homeschooler here. Not bovvered
I moved near a decent state school & they did just fine.
Let them strike , kids work far too hard on mostly irrelevant and outdated curriculum as is.
I banned homework in my house until A levels and regularly took them off travelling for a month or two at a time and they did fine & got into top RG universities.
Happy kids learn without much effort , GCSE can be passed just by reading the text books, dint really need teachers until A level
School is colossally shit for a lot of reasons. Eldest is hanging onto a college place by the skin of her teeth doing gcse reruns, with only a few hours of maths and english a week that they are pretty much self led on. Youngest will be quite happy to never see a gcse. "
Such a shame, I know teachers are under a lot of pressure but passing it on to kids and parents is selfish. Striking jusr puts more pressure on kids many already having a MH crisis by 14.
I used to keep mine off regularly and tell them what they learn at home and on adventures is far more important than anything thier hungover 23 year old instagram adducted teacher knew about life ! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
Copied it over.
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Yeah I couldn’t do it. I’ve never had a full time contract that stated I must work 190 -195 days a year , max 48 hours a week. I’d get bored and need a second job
The good news is that most teachers work far more than that "
Most ? Do you have some data on this this ? I have as chair of gov for many years and know many teachers retired & working still in public sector and private .
The older good ones don’t tend to work beyond contract, they dint need to unless pursuing leadership or headship. They know the curriculum they deliver well. Many stick to the hours and do a decent job and disappear touring Europe all summer.
The younger incompetent ones may have to and invariably they burn out. Many of them shouldn’t have been there anyway it was just an easy option - or so they thought. |
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If anybody thinks that teachers have a cushy no are deluded and should try it for a bit. I would not want to, that's for sure. The all cliche about holidays etc. We heard it all before. Most of them do work and prepare during holidays and do so into the night with lots of other duties they have to do every working day too. I know lots of them and know how hard the job is and mostly undervalued by everyone including as we even see here not only by pupils but their parents too, where often the issue lies. A plumber gets £60 an hour, a pt teacher will be lucky if they get anywhere near a third of that. Pity so many people don't value the profession much anymore. Most have to be not just teachers but 'social workers' and deal with the ever increasing issues children have or faced with these days. I know others may think differently but next to family are the ones I owe so much to. Btw none of them will be happy that it has come to considering a strike and the fault certainly does not lie with them. |
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"Continue here any late comers.
Thousands of schools in england and wales are set to close in february after teachers voted to strike, union leaders have announced, as nurses also prepare for further stoppages.
What do you think of the strikes? As so many schools will be closed, how will the pupils get their education during this time? You can copy and paste from the other tread too
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I’m a teacher, I’m not going on strike. Best job in the world. |
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"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
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I spent most of my working life working for the family business that I refused to walk away from. Instead I'm an LSA agency worker trying to land a full time role that takes home 14k.
I don't want to go to uni for 4/5 years at my age. This is why I have never trained.
I'd love to be paid all year round, holidays, sick pay and doing extra work at home in the evenings infront of the TV with a glass of wine, getting most of the same time of the students do.
I never see any bangers in the schools car parks I work at. While they might feel the pinch, in my area, I don't see them struggling for money but neither do I think they are being greedy.
Just don't be surprised if you strike and don't get the same level of support as NHS workers. |
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over a year ago
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The curriculum is outdated and not fit for purpose. How children develop has evolved but the curriculum does not reflect that.
Good luck to the teachers, but I fear that more pressure will be added onto the Children to compensate the striking
I work in early years, I have two honours degrees and my pay is nowhere near a teachers salary. My Nursery is open 51 weeks a year and anyone who says we don't have as much paperwork are clearly not familiar with the EYFS and it's requirements, along with progress check at 2, the myth is we are 'childcare' but the childcare is just a small percentage of what we do.
I doubt our sector will strike and if we did then it would cause bedlam. Our parents won't even keep their children off when sick....
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A lot of sick kids get sent into all educational settings. That's why they're such disease incubators. It's no better when the "kids" are old enough to make their own decisions. We've had to send some over 18s home because they were obviously too ill to be at college and were a risk to their own health and others. |
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"A lot of sick kids get sent into all educational settings. That's why they're such disease incubators. It's no better when the "kids" are old enough to make their own decisions. We've had to send some over 18s home because they were obviously too ill to be at college and were a risk to their own health and others. "
I don't disagree, but high temperature and fever in an infant can be far more dangerous. Especially when we have to make those judgements because the child is too young to tell us what the issue is. And trying to differentiate a temperature because between teething and a fever is a hard balance...Strep A is a huge concern, febrile convulsion is a possibility. |
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"A lot of sick kids get sent into all educational settings. That's why they're such disease incubators. It's no better when the "kids" are old enough to make their own decisions. We've had to send some over 18s home because they were obviously too ill to be at college and were a risk to their own health and others.
I don't disagree, but high temperature and fever in an infant can be far more dangerous. Especially when we have to make those judgements because the child is too young to tell us what the issue is. And trying to differentiate a temperature because between teething and a fever is a hard balance...Strep A is a huge concern, febrile convulsion is a possibility. "
Oh yes, totally agree. There was a Strep A case in our daughter's class (fortunately mild) but the school still felt it necessary to send several reminders about not sending ill children to school etc, which is sad. She's 5. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A lot of sick kids get sent into all educational settings. That's why they're such disease incubators. It's no better when the "kids" are old enough to make their own decisions. We've had to send some over 18s home because they were obviously too ill to be at college and were a risk to their own health and others.
I don't disagree, but high temperature and fever in an infant can be far more dangerous. Especially when we have to make those judgements because the child is too young to tell us what the issue is. And trying to differentiate a temperature because between teething and a fever is a hard balance...Strep A is a huge concern, febrile convulsion is a possibility.
Oh yes, totally agree. There was a Strep A case in our daughter's class (fortunately mild) but the school still felt it necessary to send several reminders about not sending ill children to school etc, which is sad. She's 5."
We have had to do the same and have to follow the guidance from the local authority. |
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I'll let you into a secret. Missing a day off school isn't going to make or break a child's educational success.
Repeatedly and consistently missing time and days off will. So don't slag off teachers for wanting to strike and kids having to miss a day.
Nobody was saying they shouldn't have a day off for the queen or the coronation because of missing so many days previously because of COVID.
Remember that teachers want your kids to do well. Teaching is a difficult job, lots of pressure. And many teachers could go off and work in their specialist fields in the commercial sector for more money. They're teachers because they want to help your children to do well, to help give them choices in life. They've had a real terms pay cut for years. |
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By *rMs.NeekCouple
over a year ago
Worcestershire |
"Anyone who thinks teaching is a cushy number then I have a question.
Why haven't you trained to be a teacher? The job is open to all.
There's a huge waiting list to be a tube driver, salary £60k...there are thousands of unfilled teaching posts...
Copied it over.
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Yeah I couldn’t do it. I’ve never had a full time contract that stated I must work 190 -195 days a year , max 48 hours a week. I’d get bored and need a second job
The good news is that most teachers work far more than that
Most ? Do you have some data on this this ? I have as chair of gov for many years and know many teachers retired & working still in public sector and private .
The older good ones don’t tend to work beyond contract, they dint need to unless pursuing leadership or headship. They know the curriculum they deliver well. Many stick to the hours and do a decent job and disappear touring Europe all summer.
The younger incompetent ones may have to and invariably they burn out. Many of them shouldn’t have been there anyway it was just an easy option - or so they thought. "
Glad you have such an extensive view of the profession in your voluntary role then. |
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Not particular to teaching, but I’m not a fan of the strikes for anyone, tough times for everyone at moment, but increasing wages private or public sector is only going to increase the problem, wage increases lead to price increases, how are we better off? We might earn more income, but our outgoings are likely to go up too…..net result is zero
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By *rMs.NeekCouple
over a year ago
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The strike is about more than teachers wages. It's about the horrendous under funding of the education system. A system that is at breaking point due to increased costs. Schools are having to put classes together tk avoid heating rooms. There is no money for essentials like stationary or repairs to facilities. Successive governments have under funded the system (whilst of course getting huge pay rises and claiming 6 figure expenses). |
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"Not particular to teaching, but I’m not a fan of the strikes for anyone, tough times for everyone at moment, but increasing wages private or public sector is only going to increase the problem, wage increases lead to price increases, how are we better off? We might earn more income, but our outgoings are likely to go up too…..net result is zero
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How will wages increases lead to price increases when those prices have gone up 50% or more in the past year? The raises being asked for would only scratch the surface of recouping the extra it's been costing in groceries, fuel and increased mortgage payments etc. Inflation continues above 10%, on top of the already-increased prices.
Surely only raises significantly above inflation would lead to excess spending? |
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"Not particular to teaching, but I’m not a fan of the strikes for anyone, tough times for everyone at moment, but increasing wages private or public sector is only going to increase the problem, wage increases lead to price increases, how are we better off? We might earn more income, but our outgoings are likely to go up too…..net result is zero
How will wages increases lead to price increases when those prices have gone up 50% or more in the past year? The raises being asked for would only scratch the surface of recouping the extra it's been costing in groceries, fuel and increased mortgage payments etc. Inflation continues above 10%, on top of the already-increased prices.
Surely only raises significantly above inflation would lead to excess spending?"
If factories increase their wages, they will charge more for their goods, if drivers get more money, the cost of deliveries goes up, if businesses spend more they will charge more… |
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Inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply. More money chasing the same amount of goods and services is inevitably going to raise their value relative to the currency. Our governments have consistently printed money to get themselves out of trouble and bribe voters with promises that taxation alone couldn't pay for. Those closest to the money printer get their money for free while everybody else has to sacrifice their time and labour for it. Inflation is theft, robbing the poor to pay the rich. We should all be on strike at the injustice that the fiat money system creates.
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