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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wise words. Thank you for sharing think you should do a weekly form post. Wise Words Wednesday? Free you mind Friday?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

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That's three things

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolutely fabulous post Fab turned me grey

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wise words. Thank you for sharing think you should do a weekly form post. Wise Words Wednesday? Free you mind Friday? "

Agree!

Great post OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

That's three things "

Even the stoic philospohers weren't perfect

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester


"Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep "

I think you over think things..... Chill

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep I think you over think things..... Chill "

Not my thinking pmsl

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester


"Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep I think you over think things..... Chill

Not my thinking pmsl "

dont tell me its freud?

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By *rtyIanMan  over a year ago

Gateway to the Beacons

If it’s out of my circle of control it goes in the fuckit bucket

Well it’s more a skip these days

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep I think you over think things..... Chill

Not my thinking pmsl dont tell me its freud? "

No not Freud, he was a wrong un...this is Stoic Philosophy

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?"

My understanding is its centered around what we really have control of, which is are thinking, so then the resulting behaviour, which could lead to selfless or selfish acts, it could take you either way as its your choice to make

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?

My understanding is its centered around what we really have control of, which is are thinking, so then the resulting behaviour, which could lead to selfless or selfish acts, it could take you either way as its your choice to make "

I can't wholly agree with the philosophy and I think it validates an irresponsible attitude. If everything but how you think is outside of your control you have no responsibility for anything that happens to you or other people*unless* your way of thinking and moral compass leads you to behave responsibly. Is that it in a nutshell? Or am I completely misunderstanding? It wouldn't be the first time

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?

My understanding is its centered around what we really have control of, which is are thinking, so then the resulting behaviour, which could lead to selfless or selfish acts, it could take you either way as its your choice to make

I can't wholly agree with the philosophy and I think it validates an irresponsible attitude. If everything but how you think is outside of your control you have no responsibility for anything that happens to you or other people*unless* your way of thinking and moral compass leads you to behave responsibly. Is that it in a nutshell? Or am I completely misunderstanding? It wouldn't be the first time "

So, I can only give you my take on it, to say your misunderstanding isint for me to judge, as its all subjective and idiosyncratic..

So for me it's about how I behave, and taking responsibility for what is mine to take responsibility for, if I behave like a prick acknowledge that and own it, and vice versa if I do something well.

It's about not trying to control the things that I can not control, that is everything outside of myself...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?"

I tend to agree with this. The Circle of Control theory is very popular in self help books about how very successful people run their lives. Basically they focus on their own needs and cut out other people's!

Btw I know this is not what the OP means and the real Stoic philosophy is more subtle and interesting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?

I tend to agree with this. The Circle of Control theory is very popular in self help books about how very successful people run their lives. Basically they focus on their own needs and cut out other people's!

Btw I know this is not what the OP means and the real Stoic philosophy is more subtle and interesting."

It is more subtle Leo, I believe it helps me to be of service and step outside of self, do I give my time freely, am I of assistance to others, do I try to control and manipulate situations for a adventagous outcome for me. So my truth is I was introduced to Stoicism through recovery from Heroin addiction.. this stuff and other stuff has enabled me to transform my life and the whole meaning I attached to my life and the person I was, in six short years

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wouldn't that lead to or at least encourage intense selfishness?

I tend to agree with this. The Circle of Control theory is very popular in self help books about how very successful people run their lives. Basically they focus on their own needs and cut out other people's!

Btw I know this is not what the OP means and the real Stoic philosophy is more subtle and interesting.

It is more subtle Leo, I believe it helps me to be of service and step outside of self, do I give my time freely, am I of assistance to others, do I try to control and manipulate situations for a adventagous outcome for me. So my truth is I was introduced to Stoicism through recovery from Heroin addiction.. this stuff and other stuff has enabled me to transform my life and the whole meaning I attached to my life and the person I was, in six short years "

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester


"Reading daily reflections every day, this sung out to me this morning...so I thought I'd share with the group...

JAN 13 "Circle of control"

'We control reasoned choice and all acts that depend on that moral will. What's not under our control are the body and any of its parts, our possessions comma parents, siblings, children, or country anything which we might associate.

-Epictetus, discourses , 1.22.10

This is important enough that it bears repeating; a wise person knows what's inside their circular control and what is outside of it.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to remember what is inside our control. According to the stoics, the Circle of control contains just one thing; your mind and, that's right to, even your physical body isn't completely within the circle. After all, you could be struck with a physical illness or impairment at any moment. You could be travelling in a foreign country and be thrown in jail.

But this is all good news because it drastically reduces the amount of things we need to think about. There is clarity and simplicity. While everyone else is running around with a list of responsibilities a mile long, things are not actually responsible for, you've got just the one item list. You've got just one thing to manage; your choices, your will, your mind and so mind it.

Have great day all, sorry if its a bit deep I think you over think things..... Chill

Not my thinking pmsl dont tell me its freud?

No not Freud, he was a wrong un...this is Stoic Philosophy "

ahhhh Eastern European

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Great thread OP, I remember reading something very similar from some Greek philosophy, but always good to remember.

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