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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" No  | |||
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"Harry who ?
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"Harry who ? "Going on the thread title, it sounds like a Harry Potter story. Not sure which is more realistic though? | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" | |||
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"He can't win really" He can, he could fuck off in to obscurity for the life of peace they apparently wanted- instead of talking to the media every 5 minutes and releasing a book, series and no doubt a bloody play and musical in the next couple of years if they can squeeze some cash out of it | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" Hopefully. | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" Technically, he'd be a 'bloater'. Someone who has served but exaggerated their service/experience. A Walter Mitty is someone who has never served. Its is a very strange declaration. And such a specific number. But as an Apache co-pilot and gunner, i think its certainly possible he did kill some enemy. But how he can put an exact number on it, i have no idea. | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" To be fair Rob, soldiers from absolutely every war ever have written accounts of their experiences. Get on Amazon and you can see dozens written by respected British soldiers. First world war, Second world war, Oman, First Gulf war, Second Gulf War, Bosnia and Kosovo, Afghanistan, Northern Ireland, Counter terrorism operations in various places. It's a really long list. Lots of soldiers talk about stuff like that, especially in books! Gbat | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind! To be fair Rob, soldiers from absolutely every war ever have written accounts of their experiences. Get on Amazon and you can see dozens written by respected British soldiers. First world war, Second world war, Oman, First Gulf war, Second Gulf War, Bosnia and Kosovo, Afghanistan, Northern Ireland, Counter terrorism operations in various places. It's a really long list. Lots of soldiers talk about stuff like that, especially in books! Gbat " Indeed, far more respected and decorated soldiers have claimed and boasted about more over the years. If the media wasn't so focused on Meghan and Him right now he'd likely still be getting applauded for his service. | |||
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"Even if you YouTube the capability of an Apache helicopter and look at the time served it’s highly possible he’s killed at least 25, those machines are absolutely lethal and serve the purpose, however every single armed services veteran I know, one tour or four, they do not talk about it, it’s never discussed and you think about it, that’s the most traumatic thing someone can do to someone else so if you come home and start telling people well …. Did you really do anything ? or are you the most unhinged member of the royal family ever and let’s face it, that’s quite something, send help, send all the help, he needs it " I have countless books on my shelf and on my kindle that make that statement totally false. Fuck loads of veterans talk about kills in combat, some in great detail. He's doing nowt different to hundreds (if not more)of others. | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" See how could he even know the figures, when he was with the lancers he was a forward fire controller, and as an apache pilot how would these figures even be able to be confirmed. | |||
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I think it was a dick move to state numbers and compare them to chess pieces, but as others have said plenty of others have written about it. I don't understand the outcry that suggesting he's broken an omerta when si many others have done it before,m | |||
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"Yes he has. Not everyone who fought in the desert wars, or any war, had to kill anyone and those who did, do not generally broadcast it. By stating 'I killed 25 Taliban' he is making an inflammatory comment and inviting retribution from any pro-Taliban crazy. I don't agree that he has done the Army a disservice because, well sometimes military have to kill people, goes with the territory. However, he has now painted a target on himself, his wife and children. Dick move." Refering to them as chess pieces, was an even bigger dick move | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" I’d say bloater rather than Walt, he was there. | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" Seemed to be a pretty good chess player | |||
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"Why is he more of a target now he's talked about it? I genuinely dint understand? People have known for years that he allegedly saw front line service in Afghanistan, surely that made him a target? Being a Royal surely made him a target? How does discussing this in a book, something many others have done, suddenly make him a target when he's been a target for years?" Spot on. 
He hasn't "suddenly" become a target due to this book, he's been a target since the day he was born.
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"Because no ex forces personnel has ever written a book detailing their experiences. Ever. Ever ever...... Quantifying the number, I'm not sure how he can. Not something I would have done. Describing them as chess pieces, I get what he means. I'd have said it differently. The vilification he/they get from people who've never met him, much in evidence here, it wasn't long everyone was suggesting we should be kind. Short memories. Winston "
The headlines when he was in the army said how great he was. Must be Meghan's fault he killed people. | |||
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"Comes to something when the Taliban sound more human than him! " How di the Talibsn sound more human than him? | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" Or at least he could have worded it differently . . . but keeps count? I didn't. | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind!" I've a whole shelf full of biographies written by ex forces personnel, all sorts of details included. He's far from a Walt. Winston | |||
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"What a waste of money, all that money spent training him, then the cost of an Apache. Tosser only got 25?" Snort laugh. Tea everywhere | |||
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"Comes to something when the Taliban sound more human than him! How di the Talibsn sound more human than him?" He said he killed 25 chess pieces, they said they were people, with families, who were waiting for them to get home. | |||
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"Comes to something when the Taliban sound more human than him! How di the Talibsn sound more human than him? He said he killed 25 chess pieces, they said they were people, with families, who were waiting for them to get home. " I'm pretty sure given the propaganda the taliban have released of multiple barbaric murders, its a bit of a push for them to defend and portray their fighters as innocent family mem | |||
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"I could write a book on Harry and what he really did out there......... Official secrets act says otherwise "So why can Harry write about it ? | |||
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"I could write a book on Harry and what he really did out there......... Official secrets act says otherwise "Perhaps give some flavour of it, rather than say nothing | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind! I've a whole shelf full of biographies written by ex forces personnel, all sorts of details included. He's far from a Walt. Winston " Yeah, or go on YouTube or look for podcasts - dozens of them ex special forces, Seals, it goes on and on. I know for a fact pre Megan he saw action in Afghanistan, my friends son was in same camp - he told me about time where there'd been an IED go off and they were then in a massive firefight and pinned down and he was the gunner in the Apache that turned up and killed numerous insurgents. That was in about 2013 ish I was told that. I dislike all royals, but didn't mind him after that. | |||
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"I could write a book on Harry and what he really did out there......... Official secrets act says otherwise " | |||
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"Thought this was another potter book. Thought wow his wizarding life's taken a turn. " | |||
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"I personally think that this will ultimately lead to his demise Or that is what will be issued by the media anyway Conspiracy theory or not There is now a target and probably a price on Harry IMO like his mum before! Don’t slag the royal family off in public and put your name on it ! I think in a couple of years time when the dust settles and the media hype has gone away the royal family will be grieving another loss unfortunately That’s only my opinion! " I'm going to suggest, and it's only my opinion, he was a target long before this. I'd go as far as suggesting the target was painted the day he was born. This latest "news" and I use the term loosely, suddenly making him a target is nonsense, he's lived with it all his life. Winston | |||
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"I personally think that this will ultimately lead to his demise Or that is what will be issued by the media anyway Conspiracy theory or not There is now a target and probably a price on Harry IMO like his mum before! Don’t slag the royal family off in public and put your name on it ! I think in a couple of years time when the dust settles and the media hype has gone away the royal family will be grieving another loss unfortunately That’s only my opinion! " Cool story.. They should make a film about it. His wife could star in it. | |||
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" Cool story.. They should make a film about it. His wife could star in it. " Who could play Harry ? | |||
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" Cool story.. They should make a film about it. His wife could star in it. Who could play Harry ?" Ed sheeran? | |||
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" Cool story.. They should make a film about it. His wife could star in it. Who could play Harry ? Ed sheeran? " It could be a musical. The princess and the circumcised pea. | |||
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"I personally think that this will ultimately lead to his demise Or that is what will be issued by the media anyway Conspiracy theory or not There is now a target and probably a price on Harry IMO like his mum before! Don’t slag the royal family off in public and put your name on it ! I think in a couple of years time when the dust settles and the media hype has gone away the royal family will be grieving another loss unfortunately That’s only my opinion! " If that is the case Edward and Wallis Simpson managed to avoid the hit men for an awfully long time and their 'crimes' against the monarchy were pretty bad | |||
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"I personally think that this will ultimately lead to his demise Or that is what will be issued by the media anyway Conspiracy theory or not There is now a target and probably a price on Harry IMO like his mum before! Don’t slag the royal family off in public and put your name on it ! I think in a couple of years time when the dust settles and the media hype has gone away the royal family will be grieving another loss unfortunately That’s only my opinion! I'm going to suggest, and it's only my opinion, he was a target long before this. I'd go as far as suggesting the target was painted the day he was born. This latest "news" and I use the term loosely, suddenly making him a target is nonsense, he's lived with it all his life. Winston " Exactly, I said thos on another thread. The queen's grandson, son of the future king, he was a target the day he was born. Though then it was more likely the IRA or a random nutter. But times changed, our perceived enemies changed and he was a potential target to Islamic extremists before he went to war again for no other reason than being born. And he's been a target since he saw active service in Afghanistan because the Royalz are expected to join the forces it's all part of their pre-planned life (plenty here must be old enough to remember how Edward was ridiculed for joining ahd then quitting the forces). Which is probably why he gets pissed off at the threat of having his security removed. This book and its revelations won't have changed his potential risk at all | |||
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" Cool story.. They should make a film about it. His wife could star in it. Who could play Harry ? Ed sheeran? It could be a musical. The princess and the circumcised pea. " Dirty Harry sings the blues? (a combination of Diana Ross and Clint Eastwood) | |||
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"Simon Harris has posted a pic of the excerpt on Twitter. If it's a true print of what is in the book, the papers are making it out to be something entirely different to what Harry actually says in the book. " Good ole media | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind! To be fair Rob, soldiers from absolutely every war ever have written accounts of their experiences. Get on Amazon and you can see dozens written by respected British soldiers. First world war, Second world war, Oman, First Gulf war, Second Gulf War, Bosnia and Kosovo, Afghanistan, Northern Ireland, Counter terrorism operations in various places. It's a really long list. Lots of soldiers talk about stuff like that, especially in books! Gbat " You will find that the majority of those authors - notably those who focus on the detail of their actions in killing - are cast out by their former comrades-in-arms. Describing the detail in retrospect, in a safe space amongst those who shared the experience, is at the heart of effective trauma management, but do do so in public for the purpose of (essentially) financial gain or self-promotion is utterly crass. | |||
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"Simon Harris has posted a pic of the excerpt on Twitter. If it's a true print of what is in the book, the papers are making it out to be something entirely different to what Harry actually says in the book. " Noooooo, have a word with yourself. The media wouldn't sensationlise or take stuff out of context to create interest and news. Oh, wait....hang on!! | |||
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"Not only has he put a target on his back but also his children. It took years but the fanatics finally caught up with Salman Rushdie!" Do yiu think that this time last week he wasn't a target then? | |||
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" You will find that the majority of those authors - notably those who focus on the detail of their actions in killing - are cast out by their former comrades-in-arms. Describing the detail in retrospect, in a safe space amongst those who shared the experience, is at the heart of effective trauma management, but do do so in public for the purpose of (essentially) financial gain or self-promotion is utterly crass." This only tends to be true when certain authors/veterans embellish the story, changing the facts so as to make themselves look good or so it sounds more 'hollywood' (Andy McNab/Chris Ryan) Or if they mention contentious issues best left unsaid (Vince Bramley - execution of Argentinian/Mercenary POW's). Unfortunately some soldiers/vets do quite openly talk about certain aspects of their operational tours to anyone. Most however, only really open up to other ex service personnel. Do i doubt his story he killed Taliban? As an Apache Co-pilot/gunner? No. Do i believe the number? Possibly, but no idea how the exact number could be verified. Do i understand his comment about not seeing the taliban as humans, but instead as chess pieces? Yes. Totally. It was a mindset that he needed to kill them. To switch off the fact they were human beings. Could he have phrased it better? Absolutely I noticed on Al-Jazeera and the BBC that Taliban leaders in Afghanistan were calling for Harry to be investigated for war crimes. Apparently Harry is a murderer, and they (the Taliban fighters he killed) were heroic freedom fighters defending their homeland from foreign invaders. | |||
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" You will find that the majority of those authors - notably those who focus on the detail of their actions in killing - are cast out by their former comrades-in-arms. Describing the detail in retrospect, in a safe space amongst those who shared the experience, is at the heart of effective trauma management, but do do so in public for the purpose of (essentially) financial gain or self-promotion is utterly crass. This only tends to be true when certain authors/veterans embellish the story, changing the facts so as to make themselves look good or so it sounds more 'hollywood' (Andy McNab/Chris Ryan) Or if they mention contentious issues best left unsaid (Vince Bramley - execution of Argentinian/Mercenary POW's). Unfortunately some soldiers/vets do quite openly talk about certain aspects of their operational tours to anyone. Most however, only really open up to other ex service personnel. Do i doubt his story he killed Taliban? As an Apache Co-pilot/gunner? No. Do i believe the number? Possibly, but no idea how the exact number could be verified. Do i understand his comment about not seeing the taliban as humans, but instead as chess pieces? Yes. Totally. It was a mindset that he needed to kill them. To switch off the fact they were human beings. Could he have phrased it better? Absolutely I noticed on Al-Jazeera and the BBC that Taliban leaders in Afghanistan were calling for Harry to be investigated for war crimes. Apparently Harry is a murderer, and they (the Taliban fighters he killed) were heroic freedom fighters defending their homeland from foreign invaders." Have you read what he actually said? | |||
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" Have you read what he actually said? " Harry?? No, apart from the comments used by the various news agencies. So im remaining open-minded. | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" I wouldn’t be surprised….. more controversies for the royal family to deal with | |||
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"But did he though....I did 2 tours out there with the Paras ." From his book" "In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit. Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately. However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped" Winston | |||
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"Peter MacAlisse. Peter de la Billiaire. Andy McNab. James Burton. Nathaniel Fick. Harold Moore and Joseph Galloway. Chris Kyle. Mark Owen. Howard Wasdin and Stephen Templin. Just sayin'..... Winston " Not forgetting Craig Harrison | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? " We control them with our witch power. And vagina....... LA | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? " Because men are weak, can't think for themselves and will do anything for pussy. | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? Because men are weak, can't think for themselves and will do anything for pussy. " That's a disgracefully narrow-minded sweeping generalisation. Who do you think you are?? We like boobs too!!  | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? Because men are weak, can't think for themselves and will do anything for pussy. That's a disgracefully narrow-minded sweeping generalisation. Who do you think you are?? We like boobs too!! " | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? We control them with our witch power. And vagina....... LA " I've been wasting my witch powers and vagina all these years. Dammit! | |||
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"Why do so many people believe that if a man (allegedly) goes off the rails it's somehow a woman's fault? Because men are weak, can't think for themselves and will do anything for pussy. " Got it! | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue" Yep. The papers are doing a great job of proving Harry and Meghan's point. | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue" I'm pretty sure he was portrayed as a hero at the time, as was Prince Andrew during the Falklands | |||
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"Thread title sounds like the title of a sick J.K Rowling spin-off. " he avada kedavra'd 25 Taliban! | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue Yep. The papers are doing a great job of proving Harry and Meghan's point. " The daily mail are running multiple articles and opinion pieces (including am interview with a taliban commander) and I'd estimate there's been at least 50, possibly way more on the last few days and everyone of them negative and often aggressive. And there readers fail to see this is completely vindication tnem | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue Yep. The papers are doing a great job of proving Harry and Meghan's point. The daily mail are running multiple articles and opinion pieces (including am interview with a taliban commander) and I'd estimate there's been at least 50, possibly way more on the last few days and everyone of them negative and often aggressive. And there readers fail to see this is completely vindication tnem" Daily Mail readers aren't very sharp. Other papers and Twitter etc users aren't either. | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue Yep. The papers are doing a great job of proving Harry and Meghan's point. " Scum. The papers, not H and M. Duplicitous, hypocritical pindar life. Winston | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" He is waving it especially when they know that he was less security. Obviously, it won't be the talibans, but a brain-watched person who can harm the people is care about. He was poorly advised by the book reviewers. | |||
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"He admitted killing people in the line of duty a decade ago, and the papers wrote about it then. It was cool then but now he’s persona non grata it’s a huge issue Yep. The papers are doing a great job of proving Harry and Meghan's point. The daily mail are running multiple articles and opinion pieces (including am interview with a taliban commander) and I'd estimate there's been at least 50, possibly way more on the last few days and everyone of them negative and often aggressive. And there readers fail to see this is completely vindication tnem Daily Mail readers aren't very sharp. Other papers and Twitter etc users aren't either." That it is scary, they have the right to vote  | |||
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"Just total b**llocks! I’m ex forces and we just don’t talk about stuff like that, especially in a book! Walter Mitty springs to mind! To be fair Rob, soldiers from absolutely every war ever have written accounts of their experiences. Get on Amazon and you can see dozens written by respected British soldiers. First world war, Second world war, Oman, First Gulf war, Second Gulf War, Bosnia and Kosovo, Afghanistan, Northern Ireland, Counter terrorism operations in various places. It's a really long list. Lots of soldiers talk about stuff like that, especially in books! Gbat You will find that the majority of those authors - notably those who focus on the detail of their actions in killing - are cast out by their former comrades-in-arms. Describing the detail in retrospect, in a safe space amongst those who shared the experience, is at the heart of effective trauma management, but do do so in public for the purpose of (essentially) financial gain or self-promotion is utterly crass." That's as maybe. Perhaps they are shunned, but the post I was quoting says that people don't talk about stuff like that, especially in a book. But they do, don't they? There are loads of books written about combat experiences. Loads. Gbat | |||
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"Peter MacAlisse. Peter de la Billiaire. Andy McNab. James Burton. Nathaniel Fick. Harold Moore and Joseph Galloway. Chris Kyle. Mark Owen. Howard Wasdin and Stephen Templin. Just sayin'..... Winston " You're guys took one hell of a beating | |||
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" .....is a joke that soldiers can be tried for crimes during operations and if it happened to soldiers they simply get away with a stern slap on the wrists. " Well it's NOT a joke that soldiers can be tried for crimes during operations. I expect our military to conduct themselves in a proper fashion and not commit crimes. Gbat | |||
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"Harry is a spoilt little rich kid who is married to an uber prima Donna. I pity the sycophants that drool over the shit the pair of them are peddling. The drivel that keep small minded people entertained… " How many times have you met them to form that opinion, quite a few I'm guessing. Winston | |||
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"Harry is a spoilt little rich kid who is married to an uber prima Donna. I pity the sycophants that drool over the shit the pair of them are peddling. The drivel that keep small minded people entertained… " Hello William. | |||
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"Harry is a spoilt little rich kid who is married to an uber prima Donna. I pity the sycophants that drool over the shit the pair of them are peddling. The drivel that keep small minded people entertained… Hello William." Watch it or I'll break your beady necklace | |||
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"Yes, they'll be honour bound to exact revenge. He's endangered himself, his family and his security people. He's a complete moron." And he's gone somewhere with a massive gun problem... | |||
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"Yes, they'll be honour bound to exact revenge. He's endangered himself, his family and his security people. He's a complete moron. And he's gone somewhere with a massive gun problem..." Yet those 25 on that mission was cleared by higher ups in the military chain of command for him to send Hellfires. Everyone acting like Harry was a rogue 64 pilot flying around Afghanistan collecting body counts. Pathetic. | |||
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"Harry is a spoilt little rich kid who is married to an uber prima Donna. I pity the sycophants that drool over the shit the pair of them are peddling. The drivel that keep small minded people entertained… Hello William." William stop it ! | |||
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"Comes to something when the Taliban sound more human than him! " Totally agree! | |||
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"Yes, they'll be honour bound to exact revenge. He's endangered himself, his family and his security people. He's a complete moron. And he's gone somewhere with a massive gun problem... Yet those 25 on that mission was cleared by higher ups in the military chain of command for him to send Hellfires. Everyone acting like Harry was a rogue 64 pilot flying around Afghanistan collecting body counts. Pathetic." Don't be silly. Nobody is saying that at all. The issue is simply publicising it so it puts him, his family and his army colleagues more in the firing line that had he kept his mouth shut about operations, like the vast majority of our armed forces do. The question surely is... Was it better for them to publish it on the book. Or not to publish it in the book.? He's an intelligent man with many wise advisers. He chose to write and make money about it. That's the issue. | |||
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" .....is a joke that soldiers can be tried for crimes during operations and if it happened to soldiers they simply get away with a stern slap on the wrists. Well it's NOT a joke that soldiers can be tried for crimes during operations. I expect our military to conduct themselves in a proper fashion and not commit crimes. Gbat " Plenty of soldiers who have been set up for doing there jobs committing no crimes carrying out authorised missions and still getting dragged into inquiries and its never the officers its always the grunts on the front lines | |||
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"Meghan has turned Harry into an even bigger Bellend than he was before meeting her...." How has she done this, to echo a question asked earlier in this or knew of the other threads, why is she to blame? | |||
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"Meghan has turned Harry into an even bigger Bellend than he was before meeting her...." Bless him, he's just cuntstruck! | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count." He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
Don’t let facts get in the way of people’s outrage.
Good god, Winston. "I should know better...... Winston | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
"I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book. It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book | |||
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"Meghan has turned Harry into an even bigger Bellend than he was before meeting her.... Bless him, he's just cuntstruck!" Apparently she has cured him of being a bigot | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book"The book was published ‘accidently’ in Spain days ago. | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book"If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says. Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him. Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about. Winston | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston "Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far) | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston
Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far) "I imagine there's a world of difference between controlling what you put into the public domain and having scores of scumbag press camped outside your door 24/7 writing news stories about how many times a day they poo. I can totally see why they'd want to walk away from that and "own" what's out there. People forget he didn't ask to be a Royal. I can't blame him for waning to fuck it all off. Winston | |||
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" Strangely, all the negative media attentions are exclusively from English based tabloid. " I totally disagree. What about the Australian press for example ? | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston
Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far)
I imagine there's a world of difference between controlling what you put into the public domain and having scores of scumbag press camped outside your door 24/7 writing news stories about how many times a day they poo.
I can totally see why they'd want to walk away from that and "own" what's out there.
People forget he didn't ask to be a Royal. I can't blame him for waning to fuck it all off.
Winston "Do you think him doing a netflix series, writing a memoir, doing the rounds of TV interviews is going to attract less or more of the scumbag press to him, vhis family and friends and anyone else named in his book? | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston
Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far)
I imagine there's a world of difference between controlling what you put into the public domain and having scores of scumbag press camped outside your door 24/7 writing news stories about how many times a day they poo.
I can totally see why they'd want to walk away from that and "own" what's out there.
People forget he didn't ask to be a Royal. I can't blame him for waning to fuck it all off.
Winston
Do you think him doing a netflix series, writing a memoir, doing the rounds of TV interviews is going to attract less or more of the scumbag press to him, vhis family and friends and anyone else named in his book? "I doubt it to be honest. Maybe he just wants to put his/their own words out there for balance. Or for a change.... Maybe he's been poorly advised. Maybe it's just for the Benjamins. Truth is, absolutely none of us knows. Winston | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston
Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far)
I imagine there's a world of difference between controlling what you put into the public domain and having scores of scumbag press camped outside your door 24/7 writing news stories about how many times a day they poo.
I can totally see why they'd want to walk away from that and "own" what's out there.
People forget he didn't ask to be a Royal. I can't blame him for waning to fuck it all off.
Winston
Do you think him doing a netflix series, writing a memoir, doing the rounds of TV interviews is going to attract less or more of the scumbag press to him, vhis family and friends and anyone else named in his book?
I doubt it to be honest.
Maybe he just wants to put his/their own words out there for balance. Or for a change....
Maybe he's been poorly advised.
Maybe it's just for the Benjamins.
Truth is, absolutely none of us knows.
Winston "What we do however know is that it's not the expected behaviour of an immediate member of the Royal family. For which there are standards of behaviour and decorum to adhere to. Although his mum did the same thing. Wonder when Meghan expose will be hitting the shelves of el corte ingles. | |||
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" Strangely, all the negative media attentions are exclusively from English based tabloid. I totally disagree. What about the Australian press for example ? " You mean the Ruper Murdock News Cooperation where ever they print. Thus, exactly, Tabloid. | |||
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" It might be time that newspapers and news outlets stop printing pages about it. They were less devoted to share any news about Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal. The Duke of York payed several millions as financial settlement to his accuser Virginia Giuffre - formally ending a civil case brought against him. The focus and feelings on Harry are disproportionate. Time that everyone let it go and don't bother. Anyway, the 'Firm' if fundamentally racist. "what part of Africa are you from?" It is not gaffe but racism and bigotery. " Virginia should never have accepted money. It made her look as if it was just for money! She should have hauled him through the US courts had him banged up in a US max security facility with the rapists and murderers. | |||
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" It might be time that newspapers and news outlets stop printing pages about it. They were less devoted to share any news about Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal. The Duke of York payed several millions as financial settlement to his accuser Virginia Giuffre - formally ending a civil case brought against him. The focus and feelings on Harry are disproportionate. Time that everyone let it go and don't bother. Anyway, the 'Firm' if fundamentally racist. "what part of Africa are you from?" It is not gaffe but racism and bigotery. " But Harry should also let it go. He wanted to leave Wanted privacy Wanted to look forward to life with wife and kids.. Does he do any of that No He comes across like a spoilt sibling Who likes the sound of his (or her)own voice It's always full of things not not quite gelling together/contradictory If he wants a life He needs to stop and shut up Look forward and move on | |||
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" It might be time that newspapers and news outlets stop printing pages about it. They were less devoted to share any news about Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal. The Duke of York payed several millions as financial settlement to his accuser Virginia Giuffre - formally ending a civil case brought against him. The focus and feelings on Harry are disproportionate. Time that everyone let it go and don't bother. Anyway, the 'Firm' if fundamentally racist. "what part of Africa are you from?" It is not gaffe but racism and bigotery. Virginia should never have accepted money. It made her look as if it was just for money! She should have hauled him through the US courts had him banged up in a US max security facility with the rapists and murderers. " Taking the money instead of hauling him through the courts does "kinda" make it look like she was just after the money, just a bit. Winston | |||
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" It might be time that newspapers and news outlets stop printing pages about it. They were less devoted to share any news about Prince Andrew & the Epstein Scandal. The Duke of York payed several millions as financial settlement to his accuser Virginia Giuffre - formally ending a civil case brought against him. The focus and feelings on Harry are disproportionate. Time that everyone let it go and don't bother. Anyway, the 'Firm' if fundamentally racist. "what part of Africa are you from?" It is not gaffe but racism and bigotery. Virginia should never have accepted money. It made her look as if it was just for money! She should have hauled him through the US courts had him banged up in a US max security facility with the rapists and murderers. Taking the money instead of hauling him through the courts does "kinda" make it look like she was just after the money, just a bit. Winston " Nobody would do that would they? Throw mud and take a load of money? | |||
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"He can't win really He can, he could fuck off in to obscurity for the life of peace they apparently wanted- instead of talking to the media every 5 minutes and releasing a book, series and no doubt a bloody play and musical in the next couple of years if they can squeeze some cash out of it "Precisely this! | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ??" Of course he has! Harry should learn to keep quiet. All he has done in my eyes is sold his soul to the media for money. Its unbelievable hearing him telling us that we dont know how hard it is having his life ... I wont even go into further. | |||
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"Very sad that he did a kill count. He didn't.
From his book"
"In Spare, he writes: "Most soldiers don't know exactly how many kills they have to their credit.
Under battle conditions, you often fire indiscriminately.
However, in the age of Apaches and laptops, everything I did in the course of two tours of duty was recorded and time-stamped"
Winston
I thought people were going from his Interview where he was speaking direct, and Not his book.
It was his interview that is being broadcast on news channels, where he is speaking. not quotes from his book
If he said "I don't know how many Taliban I shot" some people would cry "but that's not what it says in your book". He can't win, whatever he says.
Look at the vitriol posted about him in this thread, y people who've never even been in the same room as him, let alone spoken to him.
Some people are never happy unless they're moaning about something or someone they know diddly squat about.
Winston
Well... In fairness he (and her) have chosen to put quite a lot out there in the last few years. It's their brand. They didn't have to do it. You can't build your social profile up and then moan about it when not everyone in the world is blowing smoke up their arses (and in fairness... They don't seem to have moaned about any response so far)
I imagine there's a world of difference between controlling what you put into the public domain and having scores of scumbag press camped outside your door 24/7 writing news stories about how many times a day they poo.
I can totally see why they'd want to walk away from that and "own" what's out there.
People forget he didn't ask to be a Royal. I can't blame him for waning to fuck it all off.
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"I suspect the reason he made this boast, about killing 25 people in Afghanistan, is to have his security detail, at public expense reinstated. It seemed a rash statement to make, but their could be method in his madness. Frankly, he seems slightly unhinged at present; he's certainly not at peace with the world or himself." Where did he "boast" about it? | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ?? Of course he has! Harry should learn to keep quiet. All he has done in my eyes is sold his soul to the media for money. Its unbelievable hearing him telling us that we dont know how hard it is having his life ... I wont even go into further. "Do you think Harry wasn't a target before this? Winston | |||
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ?? Of course he has! Harry should learn to keep quiet. All he has done in my eyes is sold his soul to the media for money. Its unbelievable hearing him telling us that we dont know how hard it is having his life ... I wont even go into further.
Do you think Harry wasn't a target before this?
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"so simple question has harry put a target on his back after admitting killing 25 taliban ?? Of course he has! Harry should learn to keep quiet. All he has done in my eyes is sold his soul to the media for money. Its unbelievable hearing him telling us that we dont know how hard it is having his life ... I wont even go into further.
Do you think Harry wasn't a target before this?
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"Harry who ? "Harry - The Artist Formerly Known As Prince | |||
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