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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" I think sooner or later we will all be vegans or insect eaters. | |||
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"Tasteless and awful. The human race didn’t get to where it is by not eating meat. Vegans eat my food’s food and I find that offensive. " Might as well join them and get the goodness from the source | |||
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"Tasteless and awful." Apples, bananas, potatoes, bread, rice, jam, nuts and baked beans are all vegan foods. | |||
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"Soya plantations are main reason for the shaving deforestation in Amazon forest" Between 77 and 90% of all soya is fed to livestock. Only about 2% of the remainder goes to westerners; the rest if for the Asian Market. | |||
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"Been vegan for over 9 years. I was vegetarian for 9 years before that. Was only difficult for the first couple of months while I learned to read ingredients, but I have no intention of ever consuming animal products again. I guess it can be a pain in some social situations, but ethics is more important than inconvenience. My blood test results are always fine and I'm not deficient in anything." Do you take supplements? | |||
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"Vegan cheese is the hardest to accept as it just hasn't got the taste and texture of a great cheddar" Yea I know that's a hard one. My friend that went vegan said it took her forever to find a decent brand of vegan cheese. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" How do you mean ? The food itself is fine | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" I think it is tasty and nutritious... Try and avoid the highly processed, highly priced convenience food tho | |||
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"Vegan cheese is the hardest to accept as it just hasn't got the taste and texture of a great cheddar" The best one i have tried is the cathedral city plant cheddar... I would say it is more of a crumbly type of texture tho... But it has that sour taste There are new products being released this year i think, with plant casein! Can't wait to try them | |||
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"People who say vegan food tastes crap are all shit cooks, the food isn’t the problem their lack of talent/imagination/ability to read a recipe book is. Meat also tastes shit if you don’t season it, cook it appropriately and add a few herbs, spices etc, and funnily enough, all those herbs and spices we use to make that meal taste better are sourced from plants! if it’s vegan ready meals they’re complaining about…meat-based ones are also pretty awful." This in a nutshell! X | |||
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"Tasteless and awful. The human race didn’t get to where it is by not eating meat. Vegans eat my food’s food and I find that offensive. Might as well join them and get the goodness from the source" Well put | |||
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" Vegan cheese is the hardest to accept as it just hasn't got the taste and texture of a great cheddar The best one i have tried is the cathedral city plant cheddar... I would say it is more of a crumbly type of texture tho... But it has that sour taste There are new products being released this year i think, with plant casein! Can't wait to try them " I have been vegan for many years. The range and quality of vegan products in shops and of vegan options in restaurants etc. now makes it really easy to live as a vegan. If you are vegan but miss decent cheese seek out Palace Culture products: for Christmas I bought a blue and a goats cheese that were not a million miles from the real thing. Even my carnivorous father was impressed. | |||
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" Vegan cheese is the hardest to accept as it just hasn't got the taste and texture of a great cheddar The best one i have tried is the cathedral city plant cheddar... I would say it is more of a crumbly type of texture tho... But it has that sour taste There are new products being released this year i think, with plant casein! Can't wait to try them I have been vegan for many years. The range and quality of vegan products in shops and of vegan options in restaurants etc. now makes it really easy to live as a vegan. If you are vegan but miss decent cheese seek out Palace Culture products: for Christmas I bought a blue and a goats cheese that were not a million miles from the real thing. Even my carnivorous father was impressed. " Always looking for tasty vegan cheese! Thanks for the tip! Generally, I like cashew based cheeses. I haven’t found a cheddar replacement I like, and I did love cheddar! But hey - we all make some sacrifices. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" ALL food is vegan , except for animals. I have EXACTLY the same food as everyone else but with NO dead animal. What is confusing people about veganism are the 'meat' , 'fish'and 'cheese' substitutes made commercially which are misleading and not particularly healthy. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? ALL food is vegan , except for animals. I have EXACTLY the same food as everyone else but with NO dead animal. What is confusing people about veganism are the 'meat' , 'fish'and 'cheese' substitutes made commercially which are misleading and not particularly healthy. " Oh, but I love Beyond Burger! Haven’t quite worked out whether it’s healthy, but the ingredients look ok. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? ALL food is vegan , except for animals. I have EXACTLY the same food as everyone else but with NO dead animal. What is confusing people about veganism are the 'meat' , 'fish'and 'cheese' substitutes made commercially which are misleading and not particularly healthy. Oh, but I love Beyond Burger! Haven’t quite worked out whether it’s healthy, but the ingredients look ok. " A lot of people mention beyond burger. I must try one. I guess I won't though once I realise it's a fiver a burger and the burger is made from beans I'll check it out online. I do like shwarma meat to put in a salad wrap but mostly I make seitan for protein. Dirt cheap and very versatile. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? ALL food is vegan , except for animals. I have EXACTLY the same food as everyone else but with NO dead animal. What is confusing people about veganism are the 'meat' , 'fish'and 'cheese' substitutes made commercially which are misleading and not particularly healthy. Oh, but I love Beyond Burger! Haven’t quite worked out whether it’s healthy, but the ingredients look ok. A lot of people mention beyond burger. I must try one. I guess I won't though once I realise it's a fiver a burger and the burger is made from beans I'll check it out online. I do like shwarma meat to put in a salad wrap but mostly I make seitan for protein. Dirt cheap and very versatile." Just Googled it, and it seems it may currently be reduced to £3 at Waitrose. Based on pea protein, by the way. I have made my own from beans before. They were tasty, but not nearly as “meaty”. I do miss meat. | |||
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"Have been a meat eater fo 80+ years and not planning to change my eating habits any time soon. I have eaten Vegan meals at various friends houses because that was all that was on offer, what annoys me is that said Vegans expect me to prepare a Vegan meal at mine when they come for dinner." No such thing as a vegan meal. Leave the animal off their plate and put extra veg on ....... | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? ALL food is vegan , except for animals. I have EXACTLY the same food as everyone else but with NO dead animal. What is confusing people about veganism are the 'meat' , 'fish'and 'cheese' substitutes made commercially which are misleading and not particularly healthy. Oh, but I love Beyond Burger! Haven’t quite worked out whether it’s healthy, but the ingredients look ok. A lot of people mention beyond burger. I must try one. I guess I won't though once I realise it's a fiver a burger and the burger is made from beans I'll check it out online. I do like shwarma meat to put in a salad wrap but mostly I make seitan for protein. Dirt cheap and very versatile. Just Googled it, and it seems it may currently be reduced to £3 at Waitrose. Based on pea protein, by the way. I have made my own from beans before. They were tasty, but not nearly as “meaty”. I do miss meat. " I don't mind eating an occasional beyond burger if out and about, but they are very greasy and 'meaty'. I think if you love eating meat then it is a good substitute.. I wouldn't seek it out granny | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" OP, what do you think of vegan foods? | |||
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"Vegan cheese is the hardest to accept as it just hasn't got the taste and texture of a great cheddar The best one i have tried is the cathedral city plant cheddar... I would say it is more of a crumbly type of texture tho... But it has that sour taste There are new products being released this year i think, with plant casein! Can't wait to try them " Ah you are the second person to make that cathedral city so I'm going to give that a go if I can find it. Been on a plant based diet for two years now. I have to take strong vitamin B supplements anyway sure to overuse of omeprazole for nearly a decade. My health has never been better and I never have acid reflux which plagued me for twenty years. Like with any food preparation you get out what you put in. Purchase and prepare the right food and it'll taste good and be healthy. If you don't why would you expect it to be? | |||
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"Thanks. Im not going to. I read the ingredients. It's rubbish and full of coconut fat. The pack says 'even meatier' on the front. That's shouldn't be allowed, it's misleading. " As a dedicated vegan I don't like the beyond burgers. They're passable if there's nothing else but the amount of fat that comes out of them when cooked is disgusting. Prefer a fresh home cooked meal from raw veg. | |||
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"Thanks. Im not going to. I read the ingredients. It's rubbish and full of coconut fat. The pack says 'even meatier' on the front. That's shouldn't be allowed, it's misleading. As a dedicated vegan I don't like the beyond burgers. They're passable if there's nothing else but the amount of fat that comes out of them when cooked is disgusting. Prefer a fresh home cooked meal from raw veg. " My go to fast food meal was always burgers so I kinda really like a treat in the form of a beyond burger. How much worse can it be than an actual burger right? | |||
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"Thanks. Im not going to. I read the ingredients. It's rubbish and full of coconut fat. The pack says 'even meatier' on the front. That's shouldn't be allowed, it's misleading. As a dedicated vegan I don't like the beyond burgers. They're passable if there's nothing else but the amount of fat that comes out of them when cooked is disgusting. Prefer a fresh home cooked meal from raw veg. My go to fast food meal was always burgers so I kinda really like a treat in the form of a beyond burger. How much worse can it be than an actual burger right?" They are good! Burgers was thing I moat missed when I gave up meat! And the Richmond range taste very much like meat as well x | |||
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"I'm going more plant centric for 2023, but with more intent than previous tests. I probably won't be completely vegan or vegetarian, but will look to be v before looking at other options. I probably will dip into fake meats, but in the knowledge they won't that healthy. However, most burgers aren't great. As is most processed foods. But the more I look at it, the more I imagine I was malnutritioned when trying paleo. And the idea that our ancestors ate a lot of meat doesn't seem to have much science behind it. Apparently gladiators were vegan ! (They also had more belly fat than ppl imagine)" In honesty I'd totally ditch what you are thinking and go whole food plant based | |||
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"I'm going more plant centric for 2023, but with more intent than previous tests. I probably won't be completely vegan or vegetarian, but will look to be v before looking at other options. I probably will dip into fake meats, but in the knowledge they won't that healthy. However, most burgers aren't great. As is most processed foods. But the more I look at it, the more I imagine I was malnutritioned when trying paleo. And the idea that our ancestors ate a lot of meat doesn't seem to have much science behind it. Apparently gladiators were vegan ! (They also had more belly fat than ppl imagine) In honesty I'd totally ditch what you are thinking and go whole food plant based " I'm allowing myself wiggle room | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. " How many times do you know of that actually happening? Be honest now... | |||
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"Thanks. Im not going to. I read the ingredients. It's rubbish and full of coconut fat. The pack says 'even meatier' on the front. That's shouldn't be allowed, it's misleading. As a dedicated vegan I don't like the beyond burgers. They're passable if there's nothing else but the amount of fat that comes out of them when cooked is disgusting. Prefer a fresh home cooked meal from raw veg. My go to fast food meal was always burgers so I kinda really like a treat in the form of a beyond burger. How much worse can it be than an actual burger right? They are good! Burgers was thing I moat missed when I gave up meat! And the Richmond range taste very much like meat as well x" There are a few brands, including Beyond Meat and Richmond that I just cannot eat because they are too much like the product they are a substitute for. I became a vegetarian as soon as I left home at 18 because I didn't like the taste or feeling of meat in my mouth (stop tittering at the back!). All these years later I can still remember it and don't enjoy eating products that try to emulate meat too closely. Completely agree that a home cooked plant based meal is both healthier and more delicious - and often so easy to rustle up. | |||
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"I have no thoughts at all on vegan food. I don’t buy it or look for it. " Interesting choice of forum topic to click on. | |||
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"BTW....... Vegan is not a diet it's a belief. A belief based in the non commodification of animals. Anyone can be a plant eater and continue to kill animals if they want but they wouldn't be vegan ... especially in their leather shoes, animal tested makeup and tallow based soap. " | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. " Not quite in agreement here, if I go out with friends, I wouldn't "demand" a Vegan option but I'll always find something to eat. Not sure why you would go into a vegan restaurant anyway let alone demand meat. It doesn't make sense | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. " Not sure I’m quite getting the scenario. Demand is quite a strong word. And are we talking about restaurants here? It’s pretty rare to go into a restaurant without a vegan option. | |||
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"The people who try vegan and fail, do so because they make it about themselves. If they made it about the real victims and preventing animal abuse, it would become a moral imperative -- and that would lead to more determination to work out any issues and stop making excuses." Yes 100% | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. " if a place promotes itself as being non-vegan, then yes, that's not on. But what I suspect you are talking about is someone asking for a vegan option in a restaurant that caters across various tastes. I mean what is a "meat selling place" other than a butchers ? In my mind, noone can demand a vegan option. I suspect most people don't demand. And one can vote with their feet. But the idea that one can't ask for vegan options just because the restaurant also sells meat is crazy. And makes meaters come across as protective of their diet as vegans are of theirs. | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. " Not at all! I go out with meat eaters and never demand anything! I will choose veggie option if they have it! Which these days most if not all have ! If not I would choose sides that I could eat! If people come to my house I cook them meat! I pick and pack meat in my job! I would suggest people that demand are just those kind of people! Vegans/meateaters alike nothing to do with being vegan tbh! X | |||
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"You know what pisses me off about vegans they will walk Into a meat selling place and demand a vegan option. But if I walked into a vegan place and demanded a meat option all hell would break out. How many times do you know of that actually happening? Be honest now..." Hundreds of times. In his imagination... | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" Nothing wrong with them, people are always having a go a Vegans and Vegetarian because they choose yo eat different, why? I eat meat and I eat vegetarian or vegan foods too, just because you hevr a personal preference does not mean that the other is wrong. I am coeliac I do not have a choice over what I eat, are they going to have a go at me because Gluten Free is faddy? If you prefer chicken to beef or soya why is it such a big deal? People say we are designed to eat meat, well we have never fully adapted to meat (read Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson) which is probably why cancer is so prolific. We where all brought up on nuts and berries. It's all food just eat and enjoy. | |||
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"Thanks. Im not going to. I read the ingredients. It's rubbish and full of coconut fat. The pack says 'even meatier' on the front. That's shouldn't be allowed, it's misleading. As a dedicated vegan I don't like the beyond burgers. They're passable if there's nothing else but the amount of fat that comes out of them when cooked is disgusting. Prefer a fresh home cooked meal from raw veg. My go to fast food meal was always burgers so I kinda really like a treat in the form of a beyond burger. How much worse can it be than an actual burger right? They are good! Burgers was thing I moat missed when I gave up meat! And the Richmond range taste very much like meat as well x There are a few brands, including Beyond Meat and Richmond that I just cannot eat because they are too much like the product they are a substitute for. I became a vegetarian as soon as I left home at 18 because I didn't like the taste or feeling of meat in my mouth (stop tittering at the back!). All these years later I can still remember it and don't enjoy eating products that try to emulate meat too closely. Completely agree that a home cooked plant based meal is both healthier and more delicious - and often so easy to rustle up. " Ahh yes that's understandable then! I loved the taste/texture of meat and I really do still miss it! I even considered having turkey/beef/and gammon I had cooked Xmas day it looked so yummy! But I didn't I've not lapsed into eating meat since I stopped! X | |||
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"To me it makes a nice change occasionally - when working in London I often treat myself to a meal at a vegan restaurant - done properly it's delicious - done badly you may as well eat cardboard! There's no way I'd ever go vegan (or vegetarian) but just want to point out in the interest of balance that vegan food prepared / cooked well can be delicious " Same! But I like new flavours and twists on popular ideas so for me this is just that - a culinary adventure. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism " Or people just want ready meals & fast food because they are too lazy/busy/lack skills to prepare healthy food, vegan or not. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism " They address it here: https://www.ktchnrebel.com/plant-based-burger-market-overview/ “QUESTIONS OF CARBON The key selling point of plant-based meat is that you get the satisfying sizzle of a real burger, while taking a relatively low personal toll on the environment. And both Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods have carried out life cycle assessments to prove it. While producing a Beyond Burger requires 99% less water, 93% land, 90% fewer greenhouse gas emissions and nearly 50% less energy than a 1/4lb beef burger, one Impossible Burger has been shown to save the equivalent of 75 square feet of land, half a tub of bathwater and 18 miles of emissions in a car, compared to a burger made from cows.“ | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism Or people just want ready meals & fast food because they are too lazy/busy/lack skills to prepare healthy food, vegan or not. " And because they’re vegan but like the taste of meat. I’m sure marketing accounts for some bad choices, but the popularity of fake meat doesn’t seem to require conspiracy theory | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism Or people just want ready meals & fast food because they are too lazy/busy/lack skills to prepare healthy food, vegan or not. And because they’re vegan but like the taste of meat. I’m sure marketing accounts for some bad choices, but the popularity of fake meat doesn’t seem to require conspiracy theory " Where’s the conspiracy? I didn’t make it. I just don’t like processed muck, vegan or otherwise. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" it's ok if you're a vegan | |||
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"WOW. I am absolutely gobsmacked and thrilled at the majority of posts that are pro-vegan. Its made me spinechillingly happy . I love you all. its marvellous. Just one question. Is it just me or does anyone else have trouble when having sex with meateaters. I can taste it and smell it and it can be a big put off. Throwing up in someones knickers as you lower them with great expectations is not good." Not at all! Can't taste meat on people! I once had a first meet and he told me he avoided eating any meat b 4 we met! I said there was no need! Smokers on other hand can smell taste that on them! Even that said I do meet smokers x | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. " I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? " I think you are in violent agreement - It is to create a 'familiar' product for animal eaters, to tempt them to try something plant based.. They recognise it, so it is less frightening /strange | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? I think you are in violent agreement - It is to create a 'familiar' product for animal eaters, to tempt them to try something plant based.. They recognise it, so it is less frightening /strange " I guess ... Although existing vegans may like the option. I haven't d*unk for over 15 years now. But am chuffed that there is finally a good range of alcohol free beer etc. I guess it's the word need and saying they aren't for vegans. I may have miss interpreted that as real vegans don't eat fake meat. | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? I think you are in violent agreement - It is to create a 'familiar' product for animal eaters, to tempt them to try something plant based.. They recognise it, so it is less frightening /strange I guess ... Although existing vegans may like the option. I haven't d*unk for over 15 years now. But am chuffed that there is finally a good range of alcohol free beer etc. I guess it's the word need and saying they aren't for vegans. I may have miss interpreted that as real vegans don't eat fake meat. " Well ideally we'd all be whole food based right.. So certainly we don't 'need' it (to survive) but from A variety /something different aspect it has value I wouldn't want to eat it ever day or even regularly .. But that's is personal taste right ? Some people eat macdonalds every day i guess? | |||
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"Tasteless and awful. The human race didn’t get to where it is by not eating meat. Vegans eat my food’s food and I find that offensive. " Bread is vegan and is one of the best foods known to man in my opinion. | |||
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"WOW. I am absolutely gobsmacked and thrilled at the majority of posts that are pro-vegan. Its made me spinechillingly happy . I love you all. its marvellous. Just one question. Is it just me or does anyone else have trouble when having sex with meateaters. I can taste it and smell it and it can be a big put off. Throwing up in someones knickers as you lower them with great expectations is not good." Vegan sex, now you have started something! A new FAB option! | |||
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"I love oreos Have you had them battered +deep fried " I have not but I'm curious now. | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I'm curious to know what the carbon footprint is for production of all these fake alternatives.. Not to mention how much water is used in the process When we should be eating less processed foods for our health, it really makes you wonder why so much effort goes into promoting unnatural food stuffs rather than vitamin laden fruit veg and legumes Oh but of course... Capitalism They address it here: https://www.ktchnrebel.com/plant-based-burger-market-overview/ “QUESTIONS OF CARBON The key selling point of plant-based meat is that you get the satisfying sizzle of a real burger, while taking a relatively low personal toll on the environment. And both Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods have carried out life cycle assessments to prove it. While producing a Beyond Burger requires 99% less water, 93% land, 90% fewer greenhouse gas emissions and nearly 50% less energy than a 1/4lb beef burger, one Impossible Burger has been shown to save the equivalent of 75 square feet of land, half a tub of bathwater and 18 miles of emissions in a car, compared to a burger made from cows.“" Thanks for that Also acknowledge another forumites post which makes the point that the availability of fake alternatives may help some transition from eating meat. Can't ever beat natural though imo | |||
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"Tasteless and awful. The human race didn’t get to where it is by not eating meat. Vegans eat my food’s food and I find that offensive. Bread is vegan and is one of the best foods known to man in my opinion. " Not all bread is vegan. Though they have prob stopped using lard in it | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? " I'll try to be clear. 1. I don't preach veganism and really don't mind who eats what. If someone likes meat substitutes then let them fill their boots. 2. We don't eat meat cos we like it ( mainly ) we eat meat as it's a high protein source. 3. Plant based burgers are NOT high in protein like meat is ..... so they are NOT a good proteins substitute. 4. Vegan 'cheese' is coconut fat and potato starch ..... it's NOT a high protein food like cheese. If I was eating for health .... I would not choose the meat substitutes cos they are mis named and full of coconut fat and other additives. I eat with the belief that I don't want to commodify animals when there is no need so I make tasty food from beans, peas, lentils , sweet potatoes, rice , spices etc .....mostly olive oil , great curries yada yada .... I don't eat processed plants blended and coloured to resemble meat but I imagine those products can tempt meat eaters .... Does that make more sense ? | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? I'll try to be clear. 1. I don't preach veganism and really don't mind who eats what. If someone likes meat substitutes then let them fill their boots. 2. We don't eat meat cos we like it ( mainly ) we eat meat as it's a high protein source. 3. Plant based burgers are NOT high in protein like meat is ..... so they are NOT a good proteins substitute. 4. Vegan 'cheese' is coconut fat and potato starch ..... it's NOT a high protein food like cheese. If I was eating for health .... I would not choose the meat substitutes cos they are mis named and full of coconut fat and other additives. I eat with the belief that I don't want to commodify animals when there is no need so I make tasty food from beans, peas, lentils , sweet potatoes, rice , spices etc .....mostly olive oil , great curries yada yada .... I don't eat processed plants blended and coloured to resemble meat but I imagine those products can tempt meat eaters .... Does that make more sense ?" totally. I agree it's not a great meat substitute wrt macros or micros. And not really healthy. You totally don't need fake food to be vegan or enjoy your food as a vegan ... A chickpea burger is great. I see fake meat as being a bit of a vice. With no more nutritional value than a glass of wine or a beer or a . | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? I'll try to be clear. 1. I don't preach veganism and really don't mind who eats what. If someone likes meat substitutes then let them fill their boots. 2. We don't eat meat cos we like it ( mainly ) we eat meat as it's a high protein source. 3. Plant based burgers are NOT high in protein like meat is ..... so they are NOT a good proteins substitute. 4. Vegan 'cheese' is coconut fat and potato starch ..... it's NOT a high protein food like cheese. If I was eating for health .... I would not choose the meat substitutes cos they are mis named and full of coconut fat and other additives. I eat with the belief that I don't want to commodify animals when there is no need so I make tasty food from beans, peas, lentils , sweet potatoes, rice , spices etc .....mostly olive oil , great curries yada yada .... I don't eat processed plants blended and coloured to resemble meat but I imagine those products can tempt meat eaters .... Does that make more sense ?" You make complete sense Granny | |||
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"While I'm here....... cos i'm going now All the FALSE meat products are NOT for vegans. They are to tempt the meat eaters into trying them. Vegans don't need meat alternatives. I don't follow. If you like the taste of meat, but prefer not to eat it for *reasons* why isn't meat alternatives okay ? I'll try to be clear. 1. I don't preach veganism and really don't mind who eats what. If someone likes meat substitutes then let them fill their boots. 2. We don't eat meat cos we like it ( mainly ) we eat meat as it's a high protein source. 3. Plant based burgers are NOT high in protein like meat is ..... so they are NOT a good proteins substitute. 4. Vegan 'cheese' is coconut fat and potato starch ..... it's NOT a high protein food like cheese. If I was eating for health .... I would not choose the meat substitutes cos they are mis named and full of coconut fat and other additives. I eat with the belief that I don't want to commodify animals when there is no need so I make tasty food from beans, peas, lentils , sweet potatoes, rice , spices etc .....mostly olive oil , great curries yada yada .... I don't eat processed plants blended and coloured to resemble meat but I imagine those products can tempt meat eaters .... Does that make more sense ?" But if you look at the labels, they are high in protein. They use soy or pea protein and try to replicate what meat offers. The concern with them, from what I understand, is the salt content and that they’re highly processed. But as for the processing - if someone thought they’re having fake meat for the vegetables in them: those vegetables are processed so they’re not getting the benefit. But if they have fake meat for the protein and also lots of salad, it hasn’t been explained clearly to me what the problem with that is (as long as they don’t eat too much other salt). As for vegan cheese - they’re not all coconut; also cashew, and some almond and some other stuff, which tastes a lot more natural than processed coconut oil. | |||
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"Are most pot noodles including the "meat" flavours not vegan ? I know pot noodles are sh#t but just found that crazy when someone told me was either beef and tomato or chicken and mushroom was vegan " Bisto gravy granules are vegan | |||
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"Are most pot noodles including the "meat" flavours not vegan ? I know pot noodles are sh#t but just found that crazy when someone told me was either beef and tomato or chicken and mushroom was vegan Bisto gravy granules are vegan " Genuinely did not know that, madness but also a good thing more options | |||
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"Plant burger has twice the fat / just over half the protein / and lots more salt and some more carbs than a 'meat' burger. Eat what you want. I am saying a plant burger is NOT a meat substitute and it isn't ...... it's a plant burger with a different nutritional value and a different taste. " A lot of new vegans and sometimers get confused eating “plant based” and don’t actually read the back to see it’s highly processed which is worse for you, best thing if your concerned about what your consuming is an alkaline diet | |||
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"I love all meat, and will never change my diet. But if someone chooses to go vegan for whatever reason then I’ve no problem with it. What annoys me is when you see some folk preaching on that we have to go vegan because of this that and the other. I’ll leave them alone and expect the same in return. " Why would I want to be left alone? That's boring and selfish - discussion and trying to better oneself are good and fun. Trying to better others? Perhaps moral in theory, but normally pointless and counterproductive in practice. But if one sees someone harassing someone on a bus, protecting that person is surely right? In theory, why is being vegan different? If one believes that hurting sentient animals and the planet is wrong, then speaking must be right. In theory. The zeitgeist is such that veganism is still thought of as a private choice rather than an obviously ethical choice like equality and not hurting people, so preaching doesn't work. | |||
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"Plant burger has twice the fat / just over half the protein / and lots more salt and some more carbs than a 'meat' burger. Eat what you want. I am saying a plant burger is NOT a meat substitute and it isn't ...... it's a plant burger with a different nutritional value and a different taste. " According to their websites, Waitrose beef burger has 20.9g protein per 100g, 20.3g fat. Beyond Burger has 17g protein; 19g fat. Where's your source for half the protein and twice the fat? I expect that cooking fresh food, making burgers from beans etc, is healthier. Personally, I don't have the time, creativity or space (my mother in law's normally in the kitchen cooking meat) for that. And I love beyond burgers. It's quite simple. Others here obviously don't. But using words such as yuk and shite to describe it - clearly pejorative. When sited by a omnivore, that's normally in support of eating meat; when sited by a fellow vegan, I think (though can't prove), it's also a moral statement. | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is?" Topic? | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is?" Bournville | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods?" are eggs classed as vegan? I eat a lot of eggs, raw, boiled, poached, fried, guess im part vegan as I eat them daily. | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is?" Fry’s | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? are eggs classed as vegan? I eat a lot of eggs, raw, boiled, poached, fried, guess im part vegan as I eat them daily." Lol!! No!! | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is? Fry’s " You peeked. That is the oldest but it's not vegan ! | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? are eggs classed as vegan? I eat a lot of eggs, raw, boiled, poached, fried, guess im part vegan as I eat them daily." No Ray. An egg is a liccle baby chickun | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I think sooner or later we will all be vegans or insect eaters." its called grass,,, cows eat grass and i have seen the amount of muck that comes out of the back of a cow and it produces methane which is harmful to the environment and to the back of my head,, coz every time i fart my mam used to clip me round the ears | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I think sooner or later we will all be vegans or insect eaters. its called grass,,, cows eat grass and i have seen the amount of muck that comes out of the back of a cow and it produces methane which is harmful to the environment and to the back of my head,, coz every time i fart my mam used to clip me round the ears " Is it vegan if made by a meat eating person | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? are eggs classed as vegan? I eat a lot of eggs, raw, boiled, poached, fried, guess im part vegan as I eat them daily. No Ray. An egg is a liccle baby chickun" No it's not, not when it's just yoke and egg white, not fertilised so it's just egg | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? are eggs classed as vegan? I eat a lot of eggs, raw, boiled, poached, fried, guess im part vegan as I eat them daily. Lol!! No!!" God you look so darned pretty | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is?" Fry’s chocolate crème? We couldn’t be vegan - it’s not just the food - it’s the lifestyle choices and everyday consumables that I just haven’t the wherewithal to research. What we do try (as much as possible) is to make ethical choices with what we eat. I’ve tried a couple of vegan processed foods and it’s not for me. I respect the dedication of a vegan though. | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is? Fry’s " Correct... You win a dinner for two at Bob's Steakhouse;) | |||
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"I dont think you get any Vegan food around Fife and Perthshire very little demand for it, and I doubt there are any sellers of those goods" Pot noodles my g | |||
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"The oldest chocolate bar in the world is vegan. Anyone like to venture a guess as to what it is?. Off " Co Coa? | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I think sooner or later we will all be vegans or insect eaters." Vegans not so much, insect eaters most likely.. plentiful easy grown protein source that can be grown in small scale farms. The economic out way standard farming practices 100:1. Just need the western public to think more Asian/ more African in diet. But the fat burgers of the USA and Europe song gonna buy that for 50years.... | |||
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" What annoys me is when you see some folk preaching on that we have to go vegan because of this that and the other. I’ll leave them alone and expect the same in return. " Do you think people should be left alone to abuse other people? I assume not. Therefore, why should we leave people alone to abuse animals? | |||
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"What do folk think of vegan foods? I think sooner or later we will all be vegans or insect eaters. Vegans not so much, insect eaters most likely.. plentiful easy grown protein source that can be grown in small scale farms. The economic out way standard farming practices 100:1. Just need the western public to think more Asian/ more African in diet. But the fat burgers of the USA and Europe song gonna buy that for 50years.... " I’m sure vegans won’t want to eat farmed insects any more than they would farmed sheep. | |||
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"I view vegans in a positive way, the way I see it is when all the world's meat runs out we can round up the vegans and eat them.....after all they have spent years grazing on plant foods and like best Wagu beef they are bound to be tender with good marbling." This is the best reason for keeping vegans and vegetarians around | |||
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"I have just had a Vegan Breakfast and enjoyed it very much, I dont consider myself Vegan but open to try their food Just enjoyed 2 cups of tea 2 bananas and two 4 minute boiled eggs with 2 slice of toast " Eggs not vegan x | |||
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"I have just had a Vegan Breakfast and enjoyed it very much, I dont consider myself Vegan but open to try their food Just enjoyed 2 cups of tea 2 bananas and two 4 minute boiled eggs with 2 slice of toast Eggs not vegan x" yes they are. | |||
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"Reading some of the responses on here are shocking Some need to read what a vegan actually is. If you think that eggs are vegan then you need to look at the poultry industry where thousands of male chicks are ground up alive as they are no use to the process Check out the documentary Fowl Play" Once of the biggest obstacles some vegans face is the debate as to whether a vegan can eat eggs. Some vegans have started calling themselves ‘veggans’ and adopted the vegan diet but with the addition of an egg breakfast here and there. This is the big question. Generally speaking, eggs are not vegan because they are farmed from an animal and consumed by humans. However, some people argue that cruelty-free eggs from ethically sourced and cared for hens are acceptable, because the hens produce the eggs naturally. Many vegetarians eat eggs for this reason. For example, these types of eggs would come from a hen sanctuary, where farmers and volunteers would only collect and sell eggs that they come across. The money collected from the sale of such eggs would go towards the care of the rescue battery hens retiring in the sanctuary. | |||
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"Reading some of the responses on here are shocking Some need to read what a vegan actually is. If you think that eggs are vegan then you need to look at the poultry industry where thousands of male chicks are ground up alive as they are no use to the process Check out the documentary Fowl Play Once of the biggest obstacles some vegans face is the debate as to whether a vegan can eat eggs. Some vegans have started calling themselves ‘veggans’ and adopted the vegan diet but with the addition of an egg breakfast here and there. This is the big question. Generally speaking, eggs are not vegan because they are farmed from an animal and consumed by humans. However, some people argue that cruelty-free eggs from ethically sourced and cared for hens are acceptable, because the hens produce the eggs naturally. Many vegetarians eat eggs for this reason. For example, these types of eggs would come from a hen sanctuary, where farmers and volunteers would only collect and sell eggs that they come across. The money collected from the sale of such eggs would go towards the care of the rescue battery hens retiring in the sanctuary. " True, as a vegetarian I ate eggs and sometimes do miss them. Our old neighbours gave us eggs from their pet chickens and they were gorgeous. But 99.9% (vague I know) of any meat/dairy/eggs purchased come from industrial farming. I as an individual cannot be party to this. So the small sacrifices I make in my diet give me knowledge that I am not directly responsible for the death of an animal | |||
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"well said Blue; sometimes you have to be the 0.01% that does not follow the sheep there are far too many sheep on here that accept what one vegan thinks without looking deeper or accepting different views I consider my view above reasonable and decent. I have already received PM's from some delusional members who have tunnel vision only on this matter." Thank you I'd do find some people's views on the forums here strange....they are so dogmatic, they believe they are the truly just. I am happy with the decisions I make...but I also won't beat people over the the head with them I understand people are different (Except fox hunters...they're just c@@ts ) | |||
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"I have just had a Vegan Breakfast and enjoyed it very much, I dont consider myself Vegan but open to try their food Just enjoyed 2 cups of tea 2 bananas and two 4 minute boiled eggs with 2 slice of toast Eggs not vegan x yes they are. " They really are not! X | |||
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"well said Blue; sometimes you have to be the 0.01% that does not follow the sheep there are far too many sheep on here that accept what one vegan thinks without looking deeper or accepting different views I consider my view above reasonable and decent. I have already received PM's from some delusional members who have tunnel vision only on this matter. Thank you I'd do find some people's views on the forums here strange....they are so dogmatic, they believe they are the truly just. I am happy with the decisions I make...but I also won't beat people over the the head with them I understand people are different (Except fox hunters...they're just c@@ts )" I better not mention that I stalk and cull red deer then I won't mention it | |||
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