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"Tom has read that helper syndrome is where a person would rather look after someone else's needs before their own. Do any fabbers recognise this.?"
Yep, where to start with that one |
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"Tom has read that helper syndrome is where a person would rather look after someone else's needs before their own. Do any fabbers recognise this.?"
Very much so I'm afraid...almost to the point of suicide...still recovering but I know I'll never be capable of a relationship because of it |
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Yes I notice a lot of people have this trait. I tend to think that if you don't look after yourself you eventually become unable to look after anyone else. I don't believe it's a good trait to have at it's extreme |
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"Yes I notice a lot of people have this trait. I tend to think that if you don't look after yourself you eventually become unable to look after anyone else. I don't believe it's a good trait to have at it's extreme "
 its just another form of self abandonment really. Not good at all. |
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"Yes I notice a lot of people have this trait. I tend to think that if you don't look after yourself you eventually become unable to look after anyone else. I don't believe it's a good trait to have at it's extreme
its just another form of self abandonment really. Not good at all. "
No. I'll help my family without question to the best of my ability but I recognise when I've reached my limit (I learned this the hard way)
I also think it's very easy to get caught up in the helping loop to the detriment of your main relationships |
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"Tom has read that helper syndrome is where a person would rather look after someone else's needs before their own. Do any fabbers recognise this.?"
yup... I have done this totally last year. This year I refuse ..I've run myself into the ground
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"Yes I notice a lot of people have this trait. I tend to think that if you don't look after yourself you eventually become unable to look after anyone else. I don't believe it's a good trait to have at it's extreme "
It can make you quite unwell.
I still try to help as much as possible, but it's getting harder and harder.
I let myself get to rock bottom and ended up very ill.
You don't realise until it's too late. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Yes I notice a lot of people have this trait. I tend to think that if you don't look after yourself you eventually become unable to look after anyone else. I don't believe it's a good trait to have at it's extreme
its just another form of self abandonment really. Not good at all. "
And avoidance - if you always adopt a lose-win stance , you can guarantee you will lose and never be disappointed by it. It can be hard for people to recover from |
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I don't think it has to be a bad thing. We can all bear greater weights, mentally and physically. If I can help someone close to me more than they can help me then why not ? And maybe they will do the same one day when the roles are reversed. |
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Yep i helped my ex and her daughter put them totally first and she actually accused me of using her for sex (i never used anyone in my life) i stopped having sex with her and relationship broke down  |
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"I don't think it has to be a bad thing. We can all bear greater weights, mentally and physically. If I can help someone close to me more than they can help me then why not ? And maybe they will do the same one day when the roles are reversed."
No it isn't bad to help people who can't reciprocate at the time of ever but not to the detriment of yourself or family. |
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I've spent my life looking after others and trying to help them. When you're asked to do that from being a young child, it becomes part of your psyche and personality. It's very difficult to stop doing or pull away from, because the longer you are seen as the "fixer" or "do-er", the more people ask you to fix/do.
Leo says he'd hope people would reciprocate help they receive. My experience tells me that they most often do not and when someone known to help others requires help themselves, it is assumed they don't need any help and are left to manage by themselves.
It is very, very difficult to try and change what has become a fundamental part of your very existence. I speak from experience. |
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My boyfriend fits the bill. Often skipping meals to make sure someone's OK. It got to the point where his life wasn't his own. He was living everyone else's for them. My BF had "helpers syndrome" and those he helped developed strong dependency issues. A match made in hell.
It took him a long time to get back to himself and not reach for the car keys ready to head out of the door everytime the phone rang. He's fine now thankfully but I still keep a sneaky eye on him. |
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"I don't think it has to be a bad thing. We can all bear greater weights, mentally and physically. If I can help someone close to me more than they can help me then why not ? And maybe they will do the same one day when the roles are reversed.
No it isn't bad to help people who can't reciprocate at the time of ever but not to the detriment of yourself or family."
But helping others always has a cost, in time and mental and physical energy. I've exhausted myself and spent large sums helping others I cared for and loved - it was to my detriment in many ways, but a price I was happy to pay. |
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I wonder if when dug deeper into it comes from children who were shown love and affection when they were sacrificing parts of themselves and felt like they had to earn parental love instead of it being unconditional, and that being carried on into adulthood.
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"I've spent my life looking after others and trying to help them. When you're asked to do that from being a young child, it becomes part of your psyche and personality. It's very difficult to stop doing or pull away from, because the longer you are seen as the "fixer" or "do-er", the more people ask you to fix/do.
Leo says he'd hope people would reciprocate help they receive. My experience tells me that they most often do not and when someone known to help others requires help themselves, it is assumed they don't need any help and are left to manage by themselves.
It is very, very difficult to try and change what has become a fundamental part of your very existence. I speak from experience. "
I very much agree with this.
My brother will call me to ask how our dad is, despite driving past his house morning and evening daily.  |
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"I wonder if when dug deeper into it comes from children who were shown love and affection when they were sacrificing parts of themselves and felt like they had to earn parental love instead of it being unconditional, and that being carried on into adulthood.
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I identify with this, in many ways. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've spent my life looking after others and trying to help them. When you're asked to do that from being a young child, it becomes part of your psyche and personality. It's very difficult to stop doing or pull away from, because the longer you are seen as the "fixer" or "do-er", the more people ask you to fix/do.
Leo says he'd hope people would reciprocate help they receive. My experience tells me that they most often do not and when someone known to help others requires help themselves, it is assumed they don't need any help and are left to manage by themselves.
It is very, very difficult to try and change what has become a fundamental part of your very existence. I speak from experience. "
I probably didn't phrase it well as I didn't mean I expected or wanted reciprocation. People who need a lot of help will usually remain that way. I guess I've always been seen as a doer or organiser but have never done so unwillingly. I do appreciate that the situation is often different for women who get allocated that role in families by default. |
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I could describe the exact moment mine originates from. Knowing the why or how doesn't change how it changed me though 
I have learned many ways to manage it now over these last few years.
I'm teaching my children balance, hopefully it stops with me. |
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"I don't think it has to be a bad thing. We can all bear greater weights, mentally and physically. If I can help someone close to me more than they can help me then why not ? And maybe they will do the same one day when the roles are reversed."
Absolutely yes mutual help is the ideal, but I think this more refers to it becoming detrimental to the helper, in that they abandon their own basic needs and well being. |
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"I've spent my life looking after others and trying to help them. When you're asked to do that from being a young child, it becomes part of your psyche and personality. It's very difficult to stop doing or pull away from, because the longer you are seen as the "fixer" or "do-er", the more people ask you to fix/do.
Leo says he'd hope people would reciprocate help they receive. My experience tells me that they most often do not and when someone known to help others requires help themselves, it is assumed they don't need any help and are left to manage by themselves.
It is very, very difficult to try and change what has become a fundamental part of your very existence. I speak from experience.
I probably didn't phrase it well as I didn't mean I expected or wanted reciprocation. People who need a lot of help will usually remain that way. I guess I've always been seen as a doer or organiser but have never done so unwillingly. I do appreciate that the situation is often different for women who get allocated that role in families by default."
There's definitely an assumption that women will automatically shoulder more of the caring/doing/organising, even when they are children. My comments don't only refer to family, but also to friends. I know that when my disability started, I did not receive the support I thought I might get from people I thought were good friends, and who had so often sought my help/advice/support etc.
I am trying to learn to be a bit more selfish, but in doing so, I experience feelings of horrific guilt. |
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"I wonder if when dug deeper into it comes from children who were shown love and affection when they were sacrificing parts of themselves and felt like they had to earn parental love instead of it being unconditional, and that being carried on into adulthood.
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Absolutely. Holding boundaries, even if I feel like the most selfish heel for doing it, is now my mantra. Otherwise people with conflicting needs just drain you. The sad part is some people who do it more easily, get away with it, and others who are usually expected to care, don't. |
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By *rs322Woman
over a year ago
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"I wonder if when dug deeper into it comes from children who were shown love and affection when they were sacrificing parts of themselves and felt like they had to earn parental love instead of it being unconditional, and that being carried on into adulthood.
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On a serious note,
I did agree with this! |
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