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"Are you hoping to keep it going until someone agrees with you about him? "Agree with what? What have i said exactly? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought" People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? " Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway" Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out." Youd be far better just allowing people to discuss rather than trying to shut me down. If youve no interest in the subject matter, then just ignore it | |||
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"As per my comment in part 1 - who the fuck is he? "Good question | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? " But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it " Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? " So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? | |||
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"As per my comment in part 1 - who the fuck is he?
Good question " I missed part one
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"In response to 'redfordanger' at the end of the last thread, im not defending anyone and nor am i making any proclamations. As ive said repeatedly, the woman earlier in the thread asked for examples of positive things he has said. I simply provided them. This appears to have irritated you for some reason" So there’s the real reason you posted this thread, knowing full well it’s intentionally inflammatory and thus against the rules. You wanted to have the last word. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out." How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good?" I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? | |||
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"In response to 'redfordanger' at the end of the last thread, im not defending anyone and nor am i making any proclamations. As ive said repeatedly, the woman earlier in the thread asked for examples of positive things he has said. I simply provided them. This appears to have irritated you for some reason So there’s the real reason you posted this thread, knowing full well it’s intentionally inflammatory and thus against the rules. You wanted to have the last word. " What are you on about? I posted the thread to continue the discussion, which people are happily doing. Youre free to move along if youve no interest in it | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? " You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. " And in that sentence you have summed up superbly the modern day inability of people to engage in respectful discourse. My respect to you | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. " He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect?" Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool." You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you | |||
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"Are you hoping to keep it going until someone agrees with you about him? "Feels more like needing to have the last word and/or vindication… hence the 2 minute cringing response tate felt like he had to put out… | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt" So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something | |||
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"I feel awfully out of the loop here not knowing who Andrew Tate is." And me, playing catch up. Mr | |||
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"I feel awfully out of the loop here not knowing who Andrew Tate is." Now you know how Eve felt before she ate the fruit. | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something" How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you" Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. " Ah, so now youre going to try and slur me now and blacken my name in here with completely false accusations. With those now introduced, i wont be engaging with you any further | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Ah, so now youre going to try and slur me now and blacken my name in here with completely false accusations. With those now introduced, i wont be engaging with you any further" Good day to you sir. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. " Not enough cuddles as a child | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? " What good does he do? How/ where? Genuine question. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Not enough cuddles as a child " Please stick to the subject matter and not personal attacks | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? What good does he do? How/ where? Genuine question. " Well i pasted a whole load of positive quotes of his in the other thread as someone asked that exact question. So i would refer you to that | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? " Can you answer my question please? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please?" Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above" By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? What good does he do? How/ where? Genuine question. Well i pasted a whole load of positive quotes of his in the other thread as someone asked that exact question. So i would refer you to that" Yep I read that. But do young men follow him for his positivity? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works" Im not preferring to focus on them at all. A lady on the previous thread asked what positive things has he said, so i went and provided them. Since then, all ive been doing is responding to comments about those, and in some cases, having to defend myself | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? What good does he do? How/ where? Genuine question. Well i pasted a whole load of positive quotes of his in the other thread as someone asked that exact question. So i would refer you to that Yep I read that. But do young men follow him for his positivity?" I have no idea. I suspsect some might and some mightnt | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works Im not preferring to focus on them at all. A lady on the previous thread asked what positive things has he said, so i went and provided them. Since then, all ive been doing is responding to comments about those, and in some cases, having to defend myself" So... you don't actually have an opinion about the topic itself, despite starting a completely new thread that no one asked for? | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works Im not preferring to focus on them at all. A lady on the previous thread asked what positive things has he said, so i went and provided them. Since then, all ive been doing is responding to comments about those, and in some cases, having to defend myself So... you don't actually have an opinion about the topic itself, despite starting a completely new thread that no one asked for?" So i should only start threads that people ask for? Is that how it works now? And im perfectly entitled to start /contribute to any threads i like in the manner i like as long as within forum rules, which it always is. You just seem to be irritated that I'm not giving you the 'gotcha' moment so that you so clearly want | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works Im not preferring to focus on them at all. A lady on the previous thread asked what positive things has he said, so i went and provided them. Since then, all ive been doing is responding to comments about those, and in some cases, having to defend myself So... you don't actually have an opinion about the topic itself, despite starting a completely new thread that no one asked for? So i should only start threads that people ask for? Is that how it works now? And im perfectly entitled to start /contribute to any threads i like in the manner i like as long as within forum rules, which it always is. You just seem to be irritated that I'm not giving you the 'gotcha' moment so that you so clearly want " Cool, in that case, I'm going to stop replying now and can only hope everyone else follows suit so this thread can fall off the page  | |||
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"Jeez... I think the one thread was enough. There really isn't any need to keep giving this guy a second thought People are clearly fascinated by him so why not? Yeah, but if people stop talking about him, he'd just he spouting his nonsense into the ether and eventually fade away. In an ideal world anyway Well as i copied in on the previous thread, a lot of the things he says are positive, so why wouldnt you want that out there? But it's outweighed by the batshit, insane takes he has too. Hate to use Godwin's Law but Hitler loved dogs and rebuilt Germany's economy, but the Holocaust kinda trumps it Ok well then accept the positive in the rebuilt economy and detest the negative? So you're pretty much on the fence about everyone ever and don't weigh up whether their bad quality outweigh the good? I dont make sweeping statements like that. I can appreciate the good someone says/does whilst recognising and objecting to the bad also. Why is that hard to understand? You don't have to make sweeping statements, but you can have an opinion on whether you think someone is a cunt regardless of some of the good things they've done. Do you think Tate's opinions divide more than they connect? Ive no idea. And im not about to call someone a cunt So why are you staunchly defending him if you have no idea. Seems odd to contribute and even create a thread without having an informed opinion on something How am i defending him exactly? And what specifically about him am i supposedly defending? Can you answer my question please? Your question is why am i defending him. I can't answer that as im unclear how exactly im supposedly defending him, as ive just said above By preferring to focus on the positive quotes he's made rather than the misogynistic and toxic views he has. Kind of how defending someone works Im not preferring to focus on them at all. A lady on the previous thread asked what positive things has he said, so i went and provided them. Since then, all ive been doing is responding to comments about those, and in some cases, having to defend myself So... you don't actually have an opinion about the topic itself, despite starting a completely new thread that no one asked for? So i should only start threads that people ask for? Is that how it works now? And im perfectly entitled to start /contribute to any threads i like in the manner i like as long as within forum rules, which it always is. You just seem to be irritated that I'm not giving you the 'gotcha' moment so that you so clearly want Cool, in that case, I'm going to stop replying now and can only hope everyone else follows suit so this thread can fall off the page "Have a nice day | |||
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"Anabelle21's original question was about if people love or loathe him. Was that answered? " I would say so!! | |||
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"Anabelle21's original question was about if people love or loathe him. Was that answered? " I would expect the answer to that is, broadly speaking, loathe with some indifference/mild appreciation mixed in | |||
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"He is everything that social media has become" A source of depression, anxiety and stress?.. | |||
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"He is everything that social media has become A source of depression, anxiety and stress?.." We all know those 3 things don’t exist cause that bell-end says so | |||
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"He is everything that social media has become A source of depression, anxiety and stress?.. We all know those 3 things don’t exist cause that bell-end says so " | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Not enough cuddles as a child Please stick to the subject matter and not personal attacks " Yeah, stick to the subject. Only the OP can do personal attacks, usually accusing guys of white Knighting, simping (whatever the hell that is), or telling males that the female they quoted and replied to, won't sleep with them. All while not actually making any comments on the actual thread topic. Just sniping little digs at people. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Not enough cuddles as a child Please stick to the subject matter and not personal attacks Yeah, stick to the subject. Only the OP can do personal attacks, usually accusing guys of white Knighting, simping (whatever the hell that is), or telling males that the female they quoted and replied to, won't sleep with them. All while not actually making any comments on the actual thread topic. Just sniping little digs at people." They're not personal attacks though are they, but merely accurate obseravtions | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Not enough cuddles as a child Please stick to the subject matter and not personal attacks Yeah, stick to the subject. Only the OP can do personal attacks, usually accusing guys of white Knighting, simping (whatever the hell that is), or telling males that the female they quoted and replied to, won't sleep with them. All while not actually making any comments on the actual thread topic. Just sniping little digs at people." Nail on head | |||
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"I wouldn't say I love or loath him as to Part 1. From the little of what I've seen or heard of him is he reminds me of Milo Yiannopolous but less flamboyant." And more sex trafficking and money laundering. | |||
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"I see you’re still in the business of trolling. I’m out. How has he trolled? Different opinions etc. I don’t like Andrew Tate but I don’t call people dumb or trolls if they have a different opinion to me. He has posted inflammatory threads in the past. He stirs division and when the thread ends he starts another. Green arrow is a great tool. You really need to take a good hard look at yourself if you consider the things i say to be 'inflammatory' Its starting to look a lot like you just want to shut someone down who doesnt think exactly like you Not at all. I like discussion but I’ve seen your race baiting, misogyny and other awful views on here many times. Not enough cuddles as a child Please stick to the subject matter and not personal attacks " Only you can do that, hey? | |||
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"I don't anything about him at all. I do know though that Greta didn't "own" him. That account is known to be ran by her parents who have been managing her since she was a minor. C" I do feel for poor Greta. I think it’s a real shame she’s been pushed into being a figurehead/mouthpiece for her parent’s radicalism. And then to have world leaders fall at your feet over it. Imagine if she’d just been left to enjoy a normal childhood instead of being perpetually terrified over the coming apocalypse…   | |||
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"I don't anything about him at all. I do know though that Greta didn't "own" him. That account is known to be ran by her parents who have been managing her since she was a minor. C I do feel for poor Greta. I think it’s a real shame she’s been pushed into being a figurehead/mouthpiece for her parent’s radicalism. And then to have world leaders fall at your feet over it. Imagine if she’d just been left to enjoy a normal childhood instead of being perpetually terrified over the coming apocalypse… "I know. Most probably, a lifetime of mental health issues probably awaits her, all because those who should know better just couldnt let her be a normal teenage girl | |||
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"Had never heard of him. A few minutes on his Twitter and his MO is transparent. He claims to want to help men “wake up” and be secure in their masculinity yadda yadda and in the process join his various programmes (for a fee). The joke/irony being that only men not already secure in their masculinity will fall for the BS and part with their money! Real men don’t need to be told how to act or be with other men or women. They already know themselves and know what is good for society and what is just plain toxic attitude. The real men Andrew Tate purports to want all men to be would tell him to fuck off because they can already see he is exploiting those who are not confident in themselves. He has serious Tom Cruise in Magnolia vibes going on!" This 100% | |||
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"He’s part of the far right anti intellectualism movement that’s originated from the USA. This idea that you don’t need to trust scientists, professors etc and university is a waste of time. Hitler, Franco and Mussolini used the same tactics and even threw intellectuals into concentration camps. This Tait person even boasts he’s never read a book. " You’re giving Tate too much credit. 
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"Where are his bootlickers now he’s going jug for human trafficking and sexual offences Reveal yourselves " They'll probably say the women were asking for it | |||
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"Did it really need a second thread to work out that he’s an absolute twat. " Or the next two that followed it?? Which thankfully seem to have been deleted. Certain people seemed desperate for attendion. | |||
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"Just seen he's been arrested... Due to his own stupidity. Hope he enjoyed his last slice of freedom!" Bananaman? 
Yeah I saw that earlier. Villa got raided apparently. (Allegedly!)
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"Just seen he's been arrested... Due to his own stupidity. Hope he enjoyed his last slice of freedom! Bananaman?
Yeah I saw that earlier. Villa got raided apparently. (Allegedly!)
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"Did it really need a second thread to work out that he’s an absolute twat. " The 3rd started before this one was even full then I started the 4th, just because | |||
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"Did it really need a second thread to work out that he’s an absolute twat. The 3rd started before this one was even full then I started the 4th, just because "Such comedy  | |||
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"Just seen he's been arrested... Due to his own stupidity. Hope he enjoyed his last slice of freedom! Bananaman?
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"Just seen he's been arrested... Due to his own stupidity. Hope he enjoyed his last slice of freedom! Bananaman?
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"Did it really need a second thread to work out that he’s an absolute twat. The 3rd started before this one was even full then I started the 4th, just because
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"tate is alright people just take what he says out of context often. Many dont watch his vids all the way through, they have an opinion and dont want it to be changed. Though i dont agree to everything he says, i dont think he says anything that is dangerous like some people make out. He only exists because of the wokes and modern fems, he's a response to whats going on these days is all, they created people like him. " I'm not entirely sure what "woke and modern fems" are, but how did they create him? | |||
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"tate is alright people just take what he says out of context often. Many dont watch his vids all the way through, they have an opinion and dont want it to be changed. Though i dont agree to everything he says, i dont think he says anything that is dangerous like some people make out. He only exists because of the wokes and modern fems, he's a response to whats going on these days is all, they created people like him. " You should maybe do a little research into some of the things he has actually said. | |||
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"tate is alright people just take what he says out of context often. Many dont watch his vids all the way through, they have an opinion and dont want it to be changed. Though i dont agree to everything he says, i dont think he says anything that is dangerous like some people make out. He only exists because of the wokes and modern fems, he's a response to whats going on these days is all, they created people like him. " Tate is alright? You've heard his comments on r*pe then? And still think he's alright? OK. A | |||
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"He said: “I will state right now that I am absolutely sexist, I am absolutely a misogynist and I have f*** you money so I’ll say what I want. […] There is no way you can be rooted in reality and not be sexist. Not sure how that can be taken out of context? "Exactly, anyone who said things like that is clearly a complete tosser, so could we all stop promoting him now please? | |||
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"tate is alright people just take what he says out of context often. Many dont watch his vids all the way through, they have an opinion and dont want it to be changed. Though i dont agree to everything he says, i dont think he says anything that is dangerous like some people make out. He only exists because of the wokes and modern fems, he's a response to whats going on these days is all, they created people like him. " Poof... There goes all your hopes of getting laid | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " We definitely need people who make statements like - “I’m not a r****t but I like the idea of being able to just do what i want” and also “if you put yourself in the position to be r***d , you must bare some responsibility” you’re right | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " Sorry, as you say "we need people like tate" dobyiy not agree with "those new opinions"? | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " Bullshit. He's 36 FFS.....not in his 60's or 70's. Please tell me how someone born in 1986 could possibly be considered 'old school'? Why do some people try to rationalise and justify the hateful and vile statements this oxygen thief comes out with as if there was any justifiable reason for supporting or admiring someone who has said the things he has about women? It's one thing when immature teens are sucked into his BS but grown adults? Really? A | |||
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"He said: “I will state right now that I am absolutely sexist, I am absolutely a misogynist and I have f*** you money so I’ll say what I want. […] There is no way you can be rooted in reality and not be sexist. Not sure how that can be taken out of context? "This is deja vu as I had almost this exact exchange with someone last night discussing what Tate has said on r*pe: some comments are just vile and inexcusable, no matter the "context". Fans of Tate don't seem to want to understand that, bless 'em. | |||
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"Bit of breaking news on this…. Him and his brother have just been arrested in Romania in relation to a human trafficking investigation. Apparently his 2 min vid response to Greta enabled Romanian police to track him down via the pizza place " Fucking hilarious | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " Old school? So it’s old school to think r&pe is ok? It’s the victims fault? I know people who are ‘old school’ and certainly don’t hold the same views as him | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " What are these new opinions Tate stands up against? | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. Old school? So it’s old school to think r&pe is ok? It’s the victims fault? I know people who are ‘old school’ and certainly don’t hold the same views as him " I’m even “older” school than you and r&pe is NEVER ok! | |||
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"i saw his comments yeah, " He wrote: ‘Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn’t harassment ‘This belief does discredit as a whole. Stick to the serious definitions and stop pretending normal male behavior is forcing yourself onto someone else ‘Secondly – harvey. Creep? Obviously. But women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. Of course now they will say they were abused. However at the time it was a simple exchange they partook in voluntarily. Not all. But some.’ Andrew then said: ‘Next point, if you put yourself in a position to be assaulted, you must bare some responsibility. I’m not saying it’s OK you got sexually assaulted. ‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault! you people are trying to see something thats not there! he's saying be wise, dont put yourself in vulnerable positions, he's saying thats where youre partly to blame, from being naive, he's saying dont trust people, be smart. " Oh sorry, it’s us women who are naive and putting ourselves in the wrong situations Please tell me the right situations to make sure I’m in so I don’t get r&ped What a load of bollocks | |||
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"I look with sadness over a timeline where people are fighting over an energy drink in Aldi. It makes me sad for the future. But then you see Greta take on Tate and he then inadvertently fucks himself with a pizza box. The timeline makes me smile again. The trash literally took itself out. " | |||
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"Kathy Burke just now - what is it with Andrews and pizzas? " Perhaps Tate can't sweat either... | |||
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"i saw his comments yeah, " He wrote: ‘Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn’t harassment ‘This belief does discredit as a whole. Stick to the serious definitions and stop pretending normal male behavior is forcing yourself onto someone else ‘Secondly – harvey. Creep? Obviously. But women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. Of course now they will say they were abused. However at the time it was a simple exchange they partook in voluntarily. Not all. But some.’ Andrew then said: ‘Next point, if you put yourself in a position to be assaulted, you must bare some responsibility. I’m not saying it’s OK you got sexually assaulted. ‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault! you people are trying to see something thats not there! he's saying be wise, dont put yourself in vulnerable positions, he's saying thats where youre partly to blame, from being naive, he's saying dont trust people, be smart. " Do you not get abusers and rapists are going to abuse and r*pe regardless. It might not be you, your friend, whoever. But it will be someone. And it'll happen to people who don't put themselves in that situation - shit defence of all r*pist apologists by the way. You can't put sexual assault onto the victims. You just can't. You can't absolve anyone of responsibility just because "they dressed like they wanted it." | |||
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"tate is alright people just take what he says out of context often. Many dont watch his vids all the way through, they have an opinion and dont want it to be changed. Though i dont agree to everything he says, i dont think he says anything that is dangerous like some people make out. He only exists because of the wokes and modern fems, he's a response to whats going on these days is all, they created people like him. " MI5 and PREVENT disagree with you on whether he's dangerous or not | |||
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"he's not a misogynistic at all if you watched his vids you'd realise that! watch his debate with piers morgan, even piers agrees with what a lot of what he says! " ... I hope this comment is satire. | |||
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"he's not a misogynistic at all if you watched his vids you'd realise that! watch his debate with piers morgan, even piers agrees with what a lot of what he says! " Well if Piers Morgan agrees, that's case closed. | |||
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"he's not a misogynistic at all if you watched his vids you'd realise that! watch his debate with piers morgan, even piers agrees with what a lot of what he says! " The font of all knowledge - Tate and piers Morgan Jesus Christ | |||
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"he's not a misogynistic at all if you watched his vids you'd realise that! watch his debate with piers morgan, even piers agrees with what a lot of what he says! " I have and he doesn’t?! Which ones are you watching? | |||
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"‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault!" I'm not sure you're following the flownof logic here. If he doesn't think victims should have zero blame for their assault, then he is saying it's (at least partially) their fault. | |||
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"he's not a misogynistic at all if you watched his vids you'd realise that! watch his debate with piers morgan, even piers agrees with what a lot of what he says!" Having Piers Morgan agree with him may not be a vote in his favour! There's just no getting round the fact that Tate is a vile animal. | |||
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"i saw his comments yeah, " He wrote: ‘Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn’t harassment ‘This belief does discredit as a whole. Stick to the serious definitions and stop pretending normal male behavior is forcing yourself onto someone else ‘Secondly – harvey. Creep? Obviously. But women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. Of course now they will say they were abused. However at the time it was a simple exchange they partook in voluntarily. Not all. But some.’ Andrew then said: ‘Next point, if you put yourself in a position to be assaulted, you must bare some responsibility. I’m not saying it’s OK you got sexually assaulted. ‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault! you people are trying to see something thats not there! he's saying be wise, dont put yourself in vulnerable positions, he's saying thats where youre partly to blame, from being naive, he's saying dont trust people, be smart. " Women are not to blame when men assault them because the vast majority of men don't see a vulnerable woman and attack her. It's really scary when men come out with this crap. So how does a woman put herself at risk? | |||
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"tate is old school, his mindset is just one of the past, 40 yrs ago no one would of thought anything tate says to be out of the ordinary. Things have changed a lot in recent yrs, some of it for good, some of it not so good, in that youre creating people like tate that will stand up against those new opinions, we need people like tate to make people think, to balance everything if you will. " hold on a second here, im dam sure 40h years ago my old man wasn't going round thinking or talking like this Fool has been over the last few years,im dam sure his view towards women were mare notbing like Tates are, His comments on women and r@pe should have been the nail in the head for the guy except he has an army of sick little mind twisted kids and keyboard warriors following him and clicks and likes amount to a lot these days as sad as that is and the level headed people outraged by his comments who reply keep the prick with ears relevant, Sooner of later a guy like that gets whats coming to him, In Tates case the whole world will watch it happen. | |||
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"i saw his comments yeah, " He wrote: ‘Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn’t harassment ‘This belief does discredit as a whole. Stick to the serious definitions and stop pretending normal male behavior is forcing yourself onto someone else ‘Secondly – harvey. Creep? Obviously. But women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. Of course now they will say they were abused. However at the time it was a simple exchange they partook in voluntarily. Not all. But some.’ Andrew then said: ‘Next point, if you put yourself in a position to be assaulted, you must bare some responsibility. I’m not saying it’s OK you got sexually assaulted. ‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault! you people are trying to see something thats not there! he's saying be wise, dont put yourself in vulnerable positions, he's saying thats where youre partly to blame, from being naive, he's saying dont trust people, be smart. " So how much blame do you think sexual assault victims should accept? As a percentage? Come on. You chose that statement to use in his defence so you must agree with it? How much of any assault is their fault? A *I'll give you a clue. None. Absolutely fuck all. Ever. | |||
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"Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. " Except... he was. | |||
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"i saw his comments yeah, " He wrote: ‘Sexual harassment is disgusting and inexcusable. However. A man looking at you or whistling at you or asking your name isn’t harassment ‘This belief does discredit as a whole. Stick to the serious definitions and stop pretending normal male behavior is forcing yourself onto someone else ‘Secondly – harvey. Creep? Obviously. But women have been exchanging sex for opportunity for a very long time. Some did this. Weren’t abused. Of course now they will say they were abused. However at the time it was a simple exchange they partook in voluntarily. Not all. But some.’ Andrew then said: ‘Next point, if you put yourself in a position to be assaulted, you must bare some responsibility. I’m not saying it’s OK you got sexually assaulted. ‘No woman should be abused regardless. However with sexual assault they want to put zero blame on the victim whatsoever. Do you not get what he's saying? dont put yourself in those situations, he's not saying its your fault! you people are trying to see something thats not there! he's saying be wise, dont put yourself in vulnerable positions, he's saying thats where youre partly to blame, from being naive, he's saying dont trust people, be smart. " What position does a woman put herself in that's causes her to get r&ped? Being naive?? Do you think the same way about men getting r&ped, are they partly to blame when it happen? | |||
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"Kathy Burke just now - what is it with Andrews and pizzas? " Are you asking the connection ? Apparently a Romanian pizza box in his twitterspat video is reported to have confirmed his presence in the country and triggered the raid on his property leading to his arrest. | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " Question Who decides the 'safe' spaces? Is this the first stage of controlling freedoms? | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " And you're cherry picking your arguments to make your position seem stronger. The issue is, the argument is rooted in false assumptions and personal opinions rather than law and fact. If you don't like the narrative, change it and all that. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. " He was. Fact is, we can do all we can to ‘be safe’ Like I’ve said before- not walk alone at night, not go for a run in the dark, stay with girlfriends on a night out, wear clothing that literally covers you from neck to toe, and guess what? Women still get r&ped & attacked in daylight, in parks, day time, night time. If someone is going to attack or r&pe a woman, it doesn’t matter where she is, what she’s wearing, or if she tried to ‘not put herself in a vulnerable position’ I don’t know how any man can defend him?? | |||
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"Kathy Burke just now - what is it with Andrews and pizzas? Are you asking the connection ? Apparently a Romanian pizza box in his twitterspat video is reported to have confirmed his presence in the country and triggered the raid on his property leading to his arrest. " No I know, Kathy Burke was joking about the name Andrew and pizzas (Prince Andrew and pizza as well) | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " AND WOMEN GO OVER THIS ENDLESSLY and are sick to the back teeth of it!!! | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked? | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " He *is* saying that. He literally says that. You can't complain that victims are not free of blame and then say "but I'm not saying they are to blame." You are not reading him correctly. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. " Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. " Read your post back you say that's where he is saying you are partly to blame!! | |||
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"well i dont believe he was, i see what he's saying, he's being very careful to how he's trying to word it, to me its clear what he means, but its not an easy thing to word is it, i mean you understand me how ive said it right? " It's an EXTREMELY easy thing to word. Here's how I would have done it: 'Victims of sexual assault bear zero blame for their assault.' The gross sex-trafficker says literally the opposite. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. " Here's a radical idea. How about the man just doesn't r*pe her? That's the issue. Not how she got there. The fact it happened. | |||
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"This is effectively what tate was saying. " Except it isn't. And I suspect that you know that. | |||
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"Here's a radical idea. How about the man just doesn't r*pe her?" Bloody feminists and their unrealistic ideals! | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked?" Being a woman isnt always easy in this circumstance,but dont walk home late at night alone, sounds awful but thats how it is. Dont get so d*unk you dont know what youre doing, just have your wits about you. Of course its still not your fault, just limit the risks. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. Here's a radical idea. How about the man just doesn't r*pe her? That's the issue. Not how she got there. The fact it happened." Yes i know that. I dont think anybody is saying otherwise. It is however possible to state that the woman didnt exercise due caution and for that to be true, is it not? | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked? Being a woman isnt always easy in this circumstance,but dont walk home late at night alone, sounds awful but thats how it is. Dont get so d*unk you dont know what youre doing, just have your wits about you. Of course its still not your fault, just limit the risks. " Or, you know, they could just not get attacked. Why is it on women to moderate their own behaviour because they might get attacked? You're still victim blaming. There's no way out of it. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. Here's a radical idea. How about the man just doesn't r*pe her? That's the issue. Not how she got there. The fact it happened. Yes i know that. I dont think anybody is saying otherwise. It is however possible to state that the woman didnt exercise due caution and for that to be true, is it not? " That isn't the point though, is it? | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked? Being a woman isnt always easy in this circumstance,but dont walk home late at night alone, sounds awful but thats how it is. Dont get so d*unk you dont know what youre doing, just have your wits about you. Of course its still not your fault, just limit the risks. Or, you know, they could just not get attacked. Why is it on women to moderate their own behaviour because they might get attacked? You're still victim blaming. There's no way out of it." Its on us all to moderate our behaviours, men and women. Crimes will still be committed but it is wise to do all you can to minimise the risk for yourself. That goes for men and women | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. " Truth bomb here for the needy... If a guy or girl has a good character and finds themselves in the presence of a female under the influence? Surely they are honour bound to find them a safe harbour until they are sober. They shouldn't look at them and see prey. A person could have a medical event and be incapacitated, they could be roofied, it's irrelevant HOW they are more vulnerable. All people are vulnerable when they are viewed as prey, full stop. | |||
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"No most of you dont, most of you are smart enough. Its like me, im not going to go to certain places because i know what could happen to me if i go there, is that my fault if something happens to me if i go to such areas? no, but at the same time yes kinda, in that i need to use my wits more. You will always come across pieces of shit in this world, just try and be cautious to avoid putting yourself in unwanted situations. Fact is youre all saying tate is saying its your fault when he wasnt at all. Another example is a woman getting d*unk and going back to the house of a strange man. Is it her fault if she gets r*ped? No. Did she exercise the due caution she should have exercised? Also no. It is possible for both statements to be true. You will find many a person in their 70s, 80s etc that will say this and nobody will bat an eyelid. They are not wrong and they are also not condoning r*pe. This is effectively what tate was saying. " Absolute bollocks Victim blaming at its finest. A women should not have to exercise due caution. Men should not r£pe | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked? Being a woman isnt always easy in this circumstance,but dont walk home late at night alone, sounds awful but thats how it is. Dont get so d*unk you dont know what youre doing, just have your wits about you. Of course its still not your fault, just limit the risks. " And those women who are r@ped while completely sober, wearing perfectly normal, ordinary clothing? How should they "prevent" their own r@pe? Fuck sake | |||
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"None is there fault he's not saying it is there fault he says that! read it! "No woman should be abused regardless" see! ive gone over this, he's saying just be smarter. You people are choosing to read one thing but not the other, youre not reading it how he meant it. So as you seem to be agreeing with Tate, and we are all missing Tate's point. What should women do to ensure they aren't partially responsible for being attacked? Being a woman isnt always easy in this circumstance,but dont walk home late at night alone, sounds awful but thats how it is. Dont get so d*unk you dont know what youre doing, just have your wits about you. Of course its still not your fault, just limit the risks. Or, you know, they could just not get attacked. Why is it on women to moderate their own behaviour because they might get attacked? You're still victim blaming. There's no way out of it. Its on us all to moderate our behaviours, men and women. Crimes will still be committed but it is wise to do all you can to minimise the risk for yourself. That goes for men and women" Doesn't make it the victims fault. Which is solely what you are saying. | |||
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So many excuses:
It was early in the morning, it was late at night.
It was a friend, it was a stranger, it was a police officer
It was a date, it was a night out.
She was old, she was young.
She was flirting, she was playing hard to get.
She was dr*nk, she was sober, she got sp1ked.
She got a taxi, she got the train, she walked.
She wore a short dress, she wore her hair in a ponytail.
She was using her phone. She didn’t have her phone.
Actual reason why people get r@ped:
R@pists
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