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Can a person change from bad to good?
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it  |
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over a year ago
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"Absolutely yes people can change "
I believe this. People change all the time, because of life experiences, good or bad.
Imagine being privileged to see what impact your actions okay around you and what it leads to.
If you’re not changing constantly, you do t grow into the best version of yourself.
*disclaimers - Also, some people become cunts.  |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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I think so. We're often quite believing that we can change and improve and yet entertain this idea that others are somehow incapable because we clearly are a cut above. I think that some people can't change, or more... they don't want to.
I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware. |
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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago
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"I think so. We're often quite believing that we can change and improve and yet entertain this idea that others are somehow incapable because we clearly are a cut above. I think that some people can't change, or more... they don't want to.
I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware."
That’s the crux of the issue Meli they have to want to change, same as wanting to stop smoking, wanting to lose weight, if the minds already set to not want to you never will. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think so. We're often quite believing that we can change and improve and yet entertain this idea that others are somehow incapable because we clearly are a cut above. I think that some people can't change, or more... they don't want to.
I also think perception of good and bad varies an awful lot; we're more influenced by our confirmation bias than we're aware."
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By *rettyflamingoWoman
over a year ago
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I would like to think k for some people , yes.
Some beliefs and opinions are deep rooted. I have been trying for yrs to educate and inform a member of my family but they are still firm their beliefs, which is really sad and they display at times a really ugly personality . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes. My take on it anyway.
Circumstances can deeply affect people and their behaviour (assuming it's outside influences and not psychological/physiological impacts beyond the individuals control).
For me, I find it distasteful when I hear people comment "You never know what people are going through ", then immediately pass judgement on someone they can't take to based on their own moral code.
There's good and bad in everyone, and circumstances will reflect how it manifests itself? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are...
S.Black"
Well put C, Jung and the shadow side and all that.. |
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It depends on what you mean by been bad...Scrooge saw the light &
changed his ways...
Though I personally don't think people can change. It's someone's personality & if they are programmed that way it's always there.
However saying that there are people who have turned their life around but it takes a lot of hard work mentally. |
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For me, I find it distasteful when I hear people comment "You never know what people are going through "..."
I think that's a phrase that's often rolled out by someone to excuse their own shitty behaviour. And it usually only extends one way |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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Depends why they are bad. If they are evil or mentally Ill probably not. But if they are bad because of what life has done to them they can change. But it’s unlikely they would without someone giving them the chance to
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Films are not really reflective of life so I definitely don’t think people can change overnight.
I do think that people can change and grow over time due to changes in their environment but I also think there are some basic traits that are pretty deeply hardwired.
If you are bad because of your environment then I think you can change. If you are bad because of your innate personality then nothing will change that. |
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My wife's a very bad woman, and I hope that never changes.
As others have said there are no wholly good or wholly bad people - we're all on a spectrum. And where we are on that spectrum will depend on circumstances and who we're with, and will change from day to day.
The thing that is almost impossible to change is a person's opinion of whether you're good or bad. Most people like to judge people as wholly good or wholly bad, and will only change their judgement should the person become completely the opposite. Which is impossible.
So the unrealistic thing about Christmas Carol is not that Scrooge changes, but that the Cratchets are so willing to accept that he has. |
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By *ORBCouple
over a year ago
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I think it all depends on your definition of bad and good.
There are people I know who have done things that I think are vile and are not something I would ever do to anyone else,but in their heads they don't see anything wrong with what they did,they justify it so they were in the right to do it. And no they would never change because they don't and didn't see the issues at all in their actions.
So no I don't believe people can change I just think they may learn to act differently in public than how they do privately. So to look like a better person to others. .Bo. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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Few of us are the person we were 5, 10 or 20 years ago. We all evolve and grow. And some of us make huge changes and become very different people than the people we previously were.
So I di think people have the capacity to change from bad to good. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"I would like to think k for some people , yes.
Some beliefs and opinions are deep rooted. I have been trying for yrs to educate and inform a member of my family but they are still firm their beliefs, which is really sad and they display at times a really ugly personality ."
You cannot influence someone attitude or beliefs by informing & educating or debate. The way you support someone like that to think differently is by taking risks and making yourself vulnerable.
Most people don't want to invest in others, it’s hard work & takes a long time & you have to really care about them. They just want to win an argument |
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I am not a bad person but when I was younger 20+ I was very aggressive and bad tampered. Wasn't shy of confrontation.
As my kids came along and watching the come into the world I changed and mellowed.
I am a very calm gentle laid back person now unless someone really rattles me |
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People can take decisions that affect their behaviour. So, of course they can massively alter their outcomes in life. People need to be motivated to stick with their new paths. Others also need to give them the space and freedom to pursue their new choices |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it "
In a game with no rules everything is possible .
The probability? Well is probability…
Someone bad may change to good .
Doesn’t mean I be happy to hang out n forgive for what has been done .
Many people out there convinced time washes everything , things wear off
As we know it doesn’t work always exactly that way …
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People can take decisions that affect their behaviour. So, of course they can massively alter their outcomes in life. People need to be motivated to stick with their new paths. Others also need to give them the space and freedom to pursue their new choices "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots "
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on why they are bad.   Yes, that too. I have an example here, who think that the bulgers brothers could change? Maybe they are not the same now as back then."
An extreme example shags... I think once we get into the territory of such people, some are beyond redemption. Most people are 'middle of the road' types that sometimes do 'bad' things. They can and do change |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots."
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I don't believe a truly bad person will ever be anything but that. Having said that I do believe a person can do something/act a certain way and then later on realise they were wrong. It's called growth |
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots."
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.  |
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd. "
he was definitely misunderstood  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd. "
If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.
Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions. |
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"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it "
I like Patrick Stewart too. Christmas Carol message is as timeless as ever... Good and bad...? Who is to judge? A good person who does bad things sometimes? It's shades of grey and not binary (cue rainbow). But yes of course people can and do change. Sometimes through choice and sometimes through necessity. |
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Usually an extreme life event or an ultimatum issued by a loved one will force change. The threat of losing a job, death or imprisonment is fine motivation to alter your ways too. It's my experience that people rarely change through self reflection alone |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some do ..some don't ...me ? I will always think that a person will never change their spots..once an asshole..always an asshole..lm with the quote " if a person makes a fool of you once .. Shame on them...if they make a fool out of you twice .. shame on you " as regards the film " Scrooge " ..he didn't change..he became the person he always was from the very start..at the start he was a kind person . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Depends on why they are bad. Yes, that too. I have an example here, who think that the bulgers brothers could change? Maybe they are not the same now as back then."
Perhaps, perhaps not.  |
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.
If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.
Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions. "
Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’
If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them
Vladimir Putin
Robert Kocharyan
Heydar Aliyev
Ilham Aliyev
Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Bashar al-Assad
Saddam Hussein
Ali Abdul Saleh
Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Hamid Karzai
Ashraf Ghani
Jiang Zemin
Hu Jintao
Xi Jinping
Kim Jong Il
Kim Jong un
Nguyen Phu Trong
Khamtai Siphandone
Choummaly Sayasone
Bounhang Vorachith
Hun Sen
Prayut Chan-o-cha
Than Shwe
Thein Sein
Aung San Suu Kyi
Hosni Mubarak
Abdel Fattah el-Sisi
Muammar al-Gadaffi
Fayez al-Sarraj
Robert Mugabe |
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.
If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.
Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.
Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’
If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them
Vladimir Putin
Robert Kocharyan
Heydar Aliyev
Ilham Aliyev
Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Bashar al-Assad
Saddam Hussein
Ali Abdul Saleh
Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Hamid Karzai
Ashraf Ghani
Jiang Zemin
Hu Jintao
Xi Jinping
Kim Jong Il
Kim Jong un
Nguyen Phu Trong
Khamtai Siphandone
Choummaly Sayasone
Bounhang Vorachith
Hun Sen
Prayut Chan-o-cha
Than Shwe
Thein Sein
Aung San Suu Kyi
Hosni Mubarak
Abdel Fattah el-Sisi
Muammar al-Gadaffi
Fayez al-Sarraj
Robert Mugabe"
That's some party guest list.
Where would you put Nelson Mandela or David Ben gurion in the pressure bar of good v bad? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.
If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.
Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.
Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’
If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them
Vladimir Putin
Robert Kocharyan
Heydar Aliyev
Ilham Aliyev
Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Bashar al-Assad
Saddam Hussein
Ali Abdul Saleh
Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Hamid Karzai
Ashraf Ghani
Jiang Zemin
Hu Jintao
Xi Jinping
Kim Jong Il
Kim Jong un
Nguyen Phu Trong
Khamtai Siphandone
Choummaly Sayasone
Bounhang Vorachith
Hun Sen
Prayut Chan-o-cha
Than Shwe
Thein Sein
Aung San Suu Kyi
Hosni Mubarak
Abdel Fattah el-Sisi
Muammar al-Gadaffi
Fayez al-Sarraj
Robert Mugabe"
Nelson Mandela. I can see examples of both, which evidences people can change. |
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"A leopard doesn’t change its spots
There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. The problem is the judgemental crowd, influenced by what others tell them, and the fact they want to see those spots.
I suppose that Hitler fella was a really good bloke deep down inside. A lot of people’s perception of him was influenced by a judgemental crowd.
If you want to select an example to feed a narrative you will.
Alternatively you can be a little more open minded to other examples and evidence contrary to biased opinions.
Other examples of misperceived ‘bad people’
If folk would’ve only opened their minds about them
Vladimir Putin
Robert Kocharyan
Heydar Aliyev
Ilham Aliyev
Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Bashar al-Assad
Saddam Hussein
Ali Abdul Saleh
Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
Hamid Karzai
Ashraf Ghani
Jiang Zemin
Hu Jintao
Xi Jinping
Kim Jong Il
Kim Jong un
Nguyen Phu Trong
Khamtai Siphandone
Choummaly Sayasone
Bounhang Vorachith
Hun Sen
Prayut Chan-o-cha
Than Shwe
Thein Sein
Aung San Suu Kyi
Hosni Mubarak
Abdel Fattah el-Sisi
Muammar al-Gadaffi
Fayez al-Sarraj
Robert Mugabe
That's some party guest list.
Where would you put Nelson Mandela or David Ben gurion in the pressure bar of good v bad? "
They’ve not been invited |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What is bad ?
Are people bad? Or do they just do bad things ?
I suspect many people who do "bad" things are doing what they believe to be "good" things. It's just their moral compass is well off the majority. Or their focus is putting a lot of weight on a smaller group than others.
Even when we do bad stuff we justify it as being okay.
So to that end, I think it is possible in many cases for someone to reassess what is good, or how to weigh up what is good.
I suspect some stuff is vary hard wired. But even then there may be some hope. Eg certain types of sex offenders may be wired differently to us, accept they are "bad" in this sense, and take actions to be "good" despite their urges. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it
I like Patrick Stewart too. Christmas Carol message is as timeless as ever... Good and bad...? Who is to judge? A good person who does bad things sometimes? It's shades of grey and not binary (cue rainbow). But yes of course people can and do change. Sometimes through choice and sometimes through necessity. "
Yes, he is really good and yes. I also think that the message was that, one can change from bad to good |
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Our "nature" is formed by our early years experiences, the language used towards us, physical and mental affection, how punishments are administered/explained, the love and affection we're given, how much contact time we have with our parents and siblings.
Our early years experiences are formative and give us a path and pattern to follow.
Often those experiences are what we might view as bad, based on our own moral compass and societal construct.
As we progress into adulthood and are exposed to a different way of being, we might come to realise that the behaviours we exhibit are "bad" and work to improve them.
Someone may sit us down and explain certain actions and behaviours are not acceptable or appropriate.
We can change, if we realise we should and if we want to.
We all change, all the time. Usually without realising it.
The man I am isn't the boy I was.
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"Usually an extreme life event or an ultimatum issued by a loved one will force change. The threat of losing a job, death or imprisonment is fine motivation to alter your ways too. It's my experience that people rarely change through self reflection alone"
Yes, such life events can also temporarily change a person. I dont think it would be a permanent change.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What is bad ?
Are people bad? Or do they just do bad things ?
I suspect many people who do "bad" things are doing what they believe to be "good" things. It's just their moral compass is well off the majority. Or their focus is putting a lot of weight on a smaller group than others.
Even when we do bad stuff we justify it as being okay.
So to that end, I think it is possible in many cases for someone to reassess what is good, or how to weigh up what is good.
I suspect some stuff is vary hard wired. But even then there may be some hope. Eg certain types of sex offenders may be wired differently to us, accept they are "bad" in this sense, and take actions to be "good" despite their urges. "
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"A little bit of love in your heart can go alone way. Changing is whether you allow that love to grow or let it die.
The mr
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Is that a gravestone or a ninja ? Apologies my eyes are not what they once were
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It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.
I think they missed an important factor.
IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:
1) How much they stand to benefit.
2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.
So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.
And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.
Something to think about. |
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"It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.
I think they missed an important factor.
IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:
1) How much they stand to benefit.
2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.
So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.
And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.
Something to think about."
My outlook is that given the opportunity and motivation, most people are capable of most things. |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it
I like Patrick Stewart too. Christmas Carol message is as timeless as ever... Good and bad...? Who is to judge? A good person who does bad things sometimes? It's shades of grey and not binary (cue rainbow). But yes of course people can and do change. Sometimes through choice and sometimes through necessity. Yes, he is really good and yes. I also think that the message was that, one can change from bad to good "
. I have seen the Patrick Stewart version of a Christmas Carol and yes it is a good one.However I feel Ross Kemp ( Grant Mitchell from Eastenders ) is also a good one as it’s set in a more modern day it was on yesterday on ITV3. I also believe a person can change from bad to good |
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By (user no longer on site)
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People change all the time.. change is by definition relative so amount of change is difficult to compare.. good bad .. all cyclical .. part of nature .. infinitely variable unlike this modernist world that tries to push digital onto us constantly.. |
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"It was once postulated that 10% of people will always do the right thing; 10% of people will always do the wrong thing; and the other 80% of people can go either way.
I think they missed an important factor.
IMHO the 80% can be influenced by two factors:
1) How much they stand to benefit.
2) How great a risk of punishment/consequences.
So basically, at any given time, 90% of people would be willing to screw you over if it benefitted them enough and the risk of being held accountable was low.
And in my personal experience this has proven to be pretty accurate.
Something to think about."
Something to think about indeed as you've introduced the concept of right / wrong into one of good / bad.... What I think is good or right may not be what you think is good or right... How do we score that? |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
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"I was watching a christmas carol with patrick stewart. I like him, he is a very good actor and I like the christmas message that was given that a person can change from bad to good if they really want too, do you think that one can change? I believe that one can do it
I like Patrick Stewart too. Christmas Carol message is as timeless as ever... Good and bad...? Who is to judge? A good person who does bad things sometimes? It's shades of grey and not binary (cue rainbow). But yes of course people can and do change. Sometimes through choice and sometimes through necessity. Yes, he is really good and yes. I also think that the message was that, one can change from bad to good . I have seen the Patrick Stewart version of a Christmas Carol and yes it is a good one.However I feel Ross Kemp ( Grant Mitchell from Eastenders ) is also a good one as it’s set in a more modern day it was on yesterday on ITV3. I also believe a person can change from bad to good "
That is good. I havent seen that version and yes stewarts version is also good, he is a good actor |
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I read about half way down so if I repeat sommat someone said then apols.....
1. Who decides what is good or bad ? e.g. I may be held as 'bad' in some sections of society and 'good' in others. I might do something 'bad' in one country that isn't held as 'bad' in this country.
I don't believe that nature judges behaviours ......
2. On the idea of people changing.
Of course we change otherwise we'd all still be five years old. Experience changes us, our ideas , motives and behaviours change......
Not one atom of your body is the same as it was last year..... ( roughly )
Environments change us also ....
If life is difficult you will do what you can to survive....... if life is easy you will give your surplus time to others..
None of us live at one end of the line of good and bad.
We shift up and down it from day one.
We are merely animal. |
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"BTW .......
A Christmas Carol is a story."
Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?
b) isn't a green frog?
c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!
My life is a lie!
#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life |
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I’d still fuck the buggery out of belle in Muppets Xmas Carol.
"BTW .......
A Christmas Carol is a story.
Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?
b) isn't a green frog?
c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!
My life is a lie!
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"BTW .......
A Christmas Carol is a story.
Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?
b) isn't a green frog?
c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!
My life is a lie!
#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life "
Okay.... sit down ..... it's time to cross the threshold into adultry ... I mean be a grown up ....... |
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Good and bad is subjective. Everyone has different morals, beliefs and views on what makes a 'good' person so there's no definite answer. But can people change who they are as a person and make up for their mistakes? Yes they can. |
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"People can change…
People are strange…
Some appear good. Some appear bad.
And some on the other hand appear “normal”
I just give everyone a chance. Who am I to judge if they’re good or bad?
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Some folks just want to fuck |
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"People can change…
People are strange…
Some appear good. Some appear bad.
And some on the other hand appear “normal”
I just give everyone a chance. Who am I to judge if they’re good or bad?
Some folks just want to fuck "
Yes. I’m sure they do. I may be one of them |
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"BTW .......
A Christmas Carol is a story.
Are you telling me that Bob Cratchitt a) didn't really exist?
b) isn't a green frog?
c) didn't sing a song with a bunch of animatronic mice in real life?!
My life is a lie!
#MuppetsChristmasCarol4Life
Okay.... sit down ..... it's time to cross the threshold into adultry ... I mean be a grown up ....... "
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I think so,yes. Also that one can change from good to bad ....shit happens and as a result people can do things they thought they never would.
And, good and bad is also subjective.
But, some are just bad no matter what |
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People can most certainly change.
A person will only change from bad to good permanently if their heart is really set on doing do. If it is just a half hearted attempt to get what they want or to placate a person then that change will be fleeting and they will revert to their previous selves within time.
A person can also change from good to bad. This change comes slowly without you noticing at first until it becomes a permanent state and then you fully notice the change.
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Yes, I believe people can change, and do change.
However when I say "people" I do not mean all people.
Some people cannot change.
Either through lack of desire, motivation, circumstance, or a serious mental health issue that cannot be treated and has failed previous repeated treatments.
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Absolutely they can. One of my colleagues who I now consider one of my best friends grew up in care homes in Liverpool so not the best start. He could pick any lock, disable most security systems and steal any car before he was 14. He also could deal with anyone trying to shall we say stop him. Or sexually abuse him. He learned the very hard way how to fight off attackers and avoid arrest.
However, he fell into being a roadie (same as I was) and I guess we were the first "family" almost if you will living in close proximity all over the world. He totally changed his outlook on life and realised his formative years were all wrong.
He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.
People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof. |
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"Absolutely they can. One of my colleagues who I now consider one of my best friends grew up in care homes in Liverpool so not the best start. He could pick any lock, disable most security systems and steal any car before he was 14. He also could deal with anyone trying to shall we say stop him. Or sexually abuse him. He learned the very hard way how to fight off attackers and avoid arrest.
However, he fell into being a roadie (same as I was) and I guess we were the first "family" almost if you will living in close proximity all over the world. He totally changed his outlook on life and realised his formative years were all wrong.
He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.
People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof. "
This is the kind of shit I was talking about in my post.
Sometimes shit happens and as a consequence we do stuff we rather wouldn't.
Given a chance we would never do them. |
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"Absolutely they can. One of my colleagues who I now consider one of my best friends grew up in care homes in Liverpool so not the best start. He could pick any lock, disable most security systems and steal any car before he was 14. He also could deal with anyone trying to shall we say stop him. Or sexually abuse him. He learned the very hard way how to fight off attackers and avoid arrest.
However, he fell into being a roadie (same as I was) and I guess we were the first "family" almost if you will living in close proximity all over the world. He totally changed his outlook on life and realised his formative years were all wrong.
He is now a father to 3 wonderful kids, a devoted husband, tries to give kids in the same predicament as he was a chance in "apprentice" schemes and I would trust him with my life.
People can change for the better. Not all. Bust some can. He is proof.
This is the kind of shit I was talking about in my post.
Sometimes shit happens and as a consequence we do stuff we rather wouldn't.
Given a chance we would never do them."
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"Usually an extreme life event or an ultimatum issued by a loved one will force change. The threat of losing a job, death or imprisonment is fine motivation to alter your ways too. It's my experience that people rarely change through self reflection alone"
It’s very similar to moving up to a new level of life all the will power and effort in the world doesn’t help but significant life changing events work. Having a heart attack is still one of the best ways to get healthy |
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