Railways and profit are two things that generally don't mix. Not if you are talking passenger services provided at a level that the users would like. There may be somewhere that does it well, as my knowledge of foreign systems is limited. The best ones though are generally state funded in some form or other. |
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"Any privatised railways in Europe that provide a complete service and great value for money for the users while making huge profits for the private owners?
Asking for a Conservative freind "
Does Mark Harper have any friends..... 
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There are private rail operators in many European countries, especially since EU legislation to open markets. I'm sure they offer a good service or wouldn't survive long. |
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"Railways and profit are two things that generally don't mix. Not if you are talking passenger services provided at a level that the users would like. There may be somewhere that does it well, as my knowledge of foreign systems is limited. The best ones though are generally state funded in some form or other."
Especially the ones that get exta funding for their state railways with guarantee profits from their UK based rail fixed fee rail franchises. All paid for by the UK tax payer and UK rail users. |
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"There are private rail operators in many European countries, especially since EU legislation to open markets. I'm sure they offer a good service or wouldn't survive long."
But don't the private companies that pay for access to European State run railway infrastructure only concentrate on profitable routes and thus don't qualify as providing a complete service? |
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"There are private rail operators in many European countries, especially since EU legislation to open markets. I'm sure they offer a good service or wouldn't survive long.
But don't the private companies that pay for access to European State run railway infrastructure only concentrate on profitable routes and thus don't qualify as providing a complete service? "
I don't know what you mean by 'complete service'. If you mean run the whole network that would rather defeat the principle of private competition. |
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"There are private rail operators in many European countries, especially since EU legislation to open markets. I'm sure they offer a good service or wouldn't survive long.
But don't the private companies that pay for access to European State run railway infrastructure only concentrate on profitable routes and thus don't qualify as providing a complete service?
I don't know what you mean by 'complete service'. If you mean run the whole network that would rather defeat the principle of private competition."
A service that meets the transportation needs of passengers even when this is not profitable but is a valuble life line to people, businesses and communities it supports. For instance a service that provides routes along low density lines such as remote rural areas or at non profitable times of day. For example that a mid morning service from a remote part of Norfolk with a couple of pensioners off to do their weekly shopping in town. |
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"Any privatised railways in Europe that provide a complete service and great value for money for the users while making huge profits for the private owners?
Asking for a Conservative freind "
You have a conservative friend?
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"There are private rail operators in many European countries, especially since EU legislation to open markets. I'm sure they offer a good service or wouldn't survive long.
But don't the private companies that pay for access to European State run railway infrastructure only concentrate on profitable routes and thus don't qualify as providing a complete service?
I don't know what you mean by 'complete service'. If you mean run the whole network that would rather defeat the principle of private competition.
A service that meets the transportation needs of passengers even when this is not profitable but is a valuble life line to people, businesses and communities it supports. For instance a service that provides routes along low density lines such as remote rural areas or at non profitable times of day. For example that a mid morning service from a remote part of Norfolk with a couple of pensioners off to do their weekly shopping in town. "
Britain used to have lots of those services. They were mostly closed by a State Owned British Rail under Labour Governments in the 1960's. |
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Britain used to have lots of those services. They were mostly closed by a State Owned British Rail under Labour Governments in the 1960's.
Nice try, but not totally true. Although as you say many cuts happened under Wilson, the Beeching report was commissioned and published under Conservative governments before 64. Painful though it was, at the time of Beeching, road transport was seen as the future. BR had to modernise, just a shame that short term thinking was prioritised. |
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