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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
This is outrageous discrimination...I mean it's fine if you're a pilot what about the Rest of us .. |
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over a year ago
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Is it madness? I recall back in my youth that a guy at my college with went to Asda everyday for 2 years to get his lunch & didn’t pay for it once. Just walked right out the store, never got caught.
If you’re paying for your food as you should what’s the issue? |
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"Is it madness? I recall back in my youth that a guy at my college with went to Asda everyday for 2 years to get his lunch & didn’t pay for it once. Just walked right out the store, never got caught.
If you’re paying for your food as you should what’s the issue? "
Gotta admire your friend's commitment, every day for two years!
I think the issue is the idea that you are held hostage unless you make a purchase. Like sometimes I may go in for one thing, not find it and walk out again. In the scenario above I'd have to find and talk to security to let me out. Maybe next step they'll ask for a bag search & pat-down in case I'm smuggling out some taste-the-difference. |
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany."
Nope, its already started at my local Sainsbury's in Luton.
But as you say, it is only the self checkout |
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If they are going to employ sufficient staff, it's better than deploying technology, to enforce store jail.
And if they guarantee stock held and no payment queues, its possible to be worth consideration.
But it's perhaps Holborn, and trying to cut employment, increase customer income, etc
I would probably avoid like the plague |
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First I've heard of it bu as others have said it's only on the self checkout areas so makes sense as I see loads of shop lifters, nobody wants to stop them as it's a h&s risk. Why should honest people pay for the shrinkage. |
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By *ewisbi76Man
over a year ago
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany."
i was quite confused in Spain having to scan a receipt to leave a supermarket, then finding i was supposed to have told someone i was parked in the carpark so they would print the Barrier pincode on my receipt as well - they dont print the code on your receipt unless you ask. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse  "
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out |
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"They do this at Primark now, not really a big deal takes 2 seconds."
They don't at any primark iv ever been in. You are allowed to enter the store and not buy anything. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out "
How does it work if you haven't bought anything? |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out "
So what's the point of that. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany.
i was quite confused in Spain having to scan a receipt to leave a supermarket, then finding i was supposed to have told someone i was parked in the carpark so they would print the Barrier pincode on my receipt as well - they dont print the code on your receipt unless you ask. "
Tom is no fan of Spanish supermarkets |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that. "
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
How does it work if you haven't bought anything?"
Because the barriers are just at the end of the till’s. So when you buy something you just scan the receipt and it opens the barrier.
When you just browse and don’t buy anything you don’t walk through the tills, you just go out the shop & don’t walk through the till area…
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting "
But if it's just at the till areas then surely if you're going to steal something you just don't go anywhere near the till area. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
How does it work if you haven't bought anything?
Because the barriers are just at the end of the till’s. So when you buy something you just scan the receipt and it opens the barrier.
When you just browse and don’t buy anything you don’t walk through the tills, you just go out the shop & don’t walk through the till area…
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Got it, thanks. It's not to prevent shop lifting then. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting "
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
But if it's just at the till areas then surely if you're going to steal something you just don't go anywhere near the till area."
That's my take on it. I'm struggling to see the point |
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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany.
i was quite confused in Spain having to scan a receipt to leave a supermarket, then finding i was supposed to have told someone i was parked in the carpark so they would print the Barrier pincode on my receipt as well - they dont print the code on your receipt unless you ask.
Tom is no fan of Spanish supermarkets "
Tom is no fan of many things!  |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section. "
Oh I haven't been in a Primark with a self scan section. |
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
Haha love it. What happens to those who don't have a receipt or refuse? Awesome. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
How does it work if you haven't bought anything?
Because the barriers are just at the end of the till’s. So when you buy something you just scan the receipt and it opens the barrier.
When you just browse and don’t buy anything you don’t walk through the tills, you just go out the shop & don’t walk through the till area…
Got it, thanks. It's not to prevent shop lifting then. "
So what's its purpose? |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section. "
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
How does it work if you haven't bought anything?
Because the barriers are just at the end of the till’s. So when you buy something you just scan the receipt and it opens the barrier.
When you just browse and don’t buy anything you don’t walk through the tills, you just go out the shop & don’t walk through the till area…
Got it, thanks. It's not to prevent shop lifting then.
So what's its purpose? "
I'm trying to understand that myself. As I said above if it's at self service tills only you could still just put stuff in your bag without paying |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section.
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing "
Yes that’s what I reckon they’ve implemented it for, as the self scan was open before if I remember correctly without barriers. |
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"So what happens if you don't buy anything?. Do they hold you hostage?."
This. Sometimes I pop in for something specific, and they don’t have it.
Also the beepers always go off if you buy small clothing items and go through the self checkout because they cba to clear the integrated tags off. |
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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section.
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing "
Common in supermarkets in the Netherlands and works fine once you remember to take your receipt. They do spot checks to stop the paying for one item and taking 10 items for nowt |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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It just means that more receipt will be printed for no good reason. What is the carbon footprint on this?
Tom will tell you. A carbon footprint the size of the elephants pawprint in the room. The 'if you have nothing to hide' brigade will be wringing their hands in delight over this. Infringements of civil liberties start like this. Now it is scanning a till receipt but one day we could be asked to scan photographic ID.
Tom would like to start new movement. Just Stop Till Receipts. |
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section.
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing
Common in supermarkets in the Netherlands and works fine once you remember to take your receipt. They do spot checks to stop the paying for one item and taking 10 items for nowt"
I know shoplifting is a big problem and will probably get worse but I really resent being checked on when I've never shoplifted in my life. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section.
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing
Common in supermarkets in the Netherlands and works fine once you remember to take your receipt. They do spot checks to stop the paying for one item and taking 10 items for nowt
I know shoplifting is a big problem and will probably get worse but I really resent being checked on when I've never shoplifted in my life."
Not even from the pick n' mix at Woolies when you were a kid?
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"Primark here do the same thing. If you buy something you have to scan the receipt to open the barrier.
What happens if you just browse
The tills are in a separate cornered off area, with barriers out. So unless you go through there, you can get out
So what's the point of that.
Presumably there's less chance of shop lifting
I should have mentioned the barriers / scanning are only in the self check out till section.
Oh ok. They must have researched it so I guess it's preventing people scanning a pair of socks and taking a bag full of clothes out for nothing
Common in supermarkets in the Netherlands and works fine once you remember to take your receipt. They do spot checks to stop the paying for one item and taking 10 items for nowt
I know shoplifting is a big problem and will probably get worse but I really resent being checked on when I've never shoplifted in my life.
Not even from the pick n' mix at Woolies when you were a kid?
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Nope. |
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
This is outrageous discrimination...I mean it's fine if you're a pilot what about the Rest of us .."
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
never using sainsburys again....... Grow yer own food its the only way |
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany."
It happens in the supermarkets here in Abu Dhabi (self checkout area) |
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Funny but true story we know a person who works for them and when they introduced the whole self scan con it was to save them money but dressed up as something else and they were talking to a outgoing Boss ( quitting to join a german brand supermarket as he refused to push through some of the changes to staff pay etc etc ) and it actually cost them more due to people not being honest... ? surprise ..surprise ...  |
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" Funny but true story we know a person who works for them and when they introduced the whole self scan con it was to save them money but dressed up as something else and they were talking to a outgoing Boss ( quitting to join a german brand supermarket as he refused to push through some of the changes to staff pay etc etc ) and it actually cost them more due to people not being honest... ? surprise ..surprise ... "
I was speaking to a friend who works in a supermarket not long ago about this actually.
They said the biggest thing people do is with loose items, So buying 5 apples but only typing in 2 or Putting something through as a cheaper item So for example a cream cake as a plain donut. |
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" Funny but true story we know a person who works for them and when they introduced the whole self scan con it was to save them money but dressed up as something else and they were talking to a outgoing Boss ( quitting to join a german brand supermarket as he refused to push through some of the changes to staff pay etc etc ) and it actually cost them more due to people not being honest... ? surprise ..surprise ...
I was speaking to a friend who works in a supermarket not long ago about this actually.
They said the biggest thing people do is with loose items, So buying 5 apples but only typing in 2 or Putting something through as a cheaper item So for example a cream cake as a plain donut. "
Which goes to my previous post Lorna about honesty or otherwise. |
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" Funny but true story we know a person who works for them and when they introduced the whole self scan con it was to save them money but dressed up as something else and they were talking to a outgoing Boss ( quitting to join a german brand supermarket as he refused to push through some of the changes to staff pay etc etc ) and it actually cost them more due to people not being honest... ? surprise ..surprise ...
I was speaking to a friend who works in a supermarket not long ago about this actually.
They said the biggest thing people do is with loose items, So buying 5 apples but only typing in 2 or Putting something through as a cheaper item So for example a cream cake as a plain donut.
Which goes to my previous post Lorna about honesty or otherwise. "
Sorry but I'm not sure what you're talking about. |
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" Funny but true story we know a person who works for them and when they introduced the whole self scan con it was to save them money but dressed up as something else and they were talking to a outgoing Boss ( quitting to join a german brand supermarket as he refused to push through some of the changes to staff pay etc etc ) and it actually cost them more due to people not being honest... ? surprise ..surprise ...
I was speaking to a friend who works in a supermarket not long ago about this actually.
They said the biggest thing people do is with loose items, So buying 5 apples but only typing in 2 or Putting something through as a cheaper item So for example a cream cake as a plain donut.
Which goes to my previous post Lorna about honesty or otherwise.
Sorry but I'm not sure what you're talking about. "
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany."
Many countries have this, common sense to reduce theft |
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany.
Many countries have this, common sense to reduce theft "
I still can't work out how only having these at the self service check out reduces theft. |
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By *mily36CWoman
over a year ago
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's Old news"
Really common in Lidl stores in Europe, seen in Switzerland and Poland.... Costco have done since beginning of time!? |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline."
Why are his posts easy to spot? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So what happens if you don't buy anything?. Do they hold you hostage?. if there is a fire are people trapped by the barrier? I would not go to a store that did that "
Yes, that's exactly what happens.
A fire breaks out, but you can only allowed to evacuate the building if you show a receipt!!
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"So what happens if you don't buy anything?. Do they hold you hostage?. if there is a fire are people trapped by the barrier? I would not go to a store that did that
Yes, that's exactly what happens.
A fire breaks out, but you can only allowed to evacuate the building if you show a receipt!!
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Or they've reduced the mince pies |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just to calm peoples nerves, im not long back from shopping at Sainsbury's.
I used the self-checkout. Used my receipt to open the barrier. No issue at all.
Its only a basic waist high barrier, the same as you go through going into some shops.
You can easily push them open.
But, as someone pointed out earlier on, it prints out a full receipt, so uses more paper.
Hopefully they'll arrange a more eco-friendly option.
Even just a small printout of the bar code would save lots of paper. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Reminds me of a time I went into a department store and the alarm went off as I left. Security checked my bag, found nothing and I said it was probably books I’d bought (was at uni at the time). Wasn’t the books. Guard said ‘whatever you have just take it!’ When I got home at the bottom of my bag I found a security sticker that had come out (from a book). Still can’t forget that he assumed I was guilty. |
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"First I heard of it? But I'm only a employee they dont tell us jack shit! X
 think of it this way the more they put people off using the self check out the longer they need shop assistances!"
Tbf I'm a picker so don't really affect me x |
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over a year ago
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"I love those automatic machines . I’d happily pack my own bag and ring up my register myself .
No more mardy cashiers . Win win. "
I experience they are only mardy if you are rude to them or not very pleasant. |
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"First I heard of it? But I'm only a employee they dont tell us jack shit! X
think of it this way the more they put people off using the self check out the longer they need shop assistances!"
My local Asda which is a huge store they no longer have any check outs at all. It's all self service or scan as you go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sainsburys Wolverhampton have had this in place for a lifetime. It automatically prints the receipt at self service. Scan your receipt and the barrier opens. Don’t see an issue with it personally. |
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"I love those automatic machines . I’d happily pack my own bag and ring up my register myself .
No more mardy cashiers . Win win.
I experience they are only mardy if you are rude to them or not very pleasant. "
They were all mercredy today! |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
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Would be interesting. Say you refused to show your receipt, they can't detain you on the fact that you don't have a receipt.
Unless you have sufficient proof that someone has taken something, IE CCTV or security seen you take the item, seen you didn't make an attempt to pay for it and know where the item is on your person, it's against the law to arrest/detain somebody.
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I'm not sure if anything has changed, its been a few years since I worked in retail security, but there used to be five point check to go through before you could reasonably ask someone to stop if you think they are shoplifting...
1. Selection of item (scanning the shelves)
2. Picking item (taking it in hand)
3. Concealing item
4. Passing last point at which they could possibly pay for item
5. Attempting to leave.
As most stores have a kiosk somewhere near the entrance, the usual modus operandi was to approach once they stepped over the threshold of the doorway.
Personally, unless they want to pay me to scan my items, I dont do self-checkout, and I won't be getting a receipt to exit the building either, and I think they would be on dodgy ground trying to stop me.
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"If you're not stealing then it shouldn't worry or bother you in the slightest  "
It does concern me that apparently so many people steal that precautions need to be taken against me. I'm not stealing and I don't buy into the if you haven't done anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about argument. I'm already checked on CCTV, security guards are on the door in our local Primark, if I use a self service check out I'm filmed, now I need to scan a receipt as yet another proof that I haven't pinched anything? |
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"If you're not stealing then it shouldn't worry or bother you in the slightest
It does concern me that apparently so many people steal that precautions need to be taken against me. I'm not stealing and I don't buy into the if you haven't done anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about argument. I'm already checked on CCTV, security guards are on the door in our local Primark, if I use a self service check out I'm filmed, now I need to scan a receipt as yet another proof that I haven't pinched anything? "
Exactly. But I still don't understand how scanning a receipt after using the self service checkout prevents people stealing. All it proves is that you've paid for something not everything. |
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First they came for the people on the service counters and I did nothing.
Then they came for the till operatives and I did nothing.
Then they came for the security guards and I did nothing ......
Finally , they came for me...... |
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"First they came for the people on the service counters and I did nothing.
Then they came for the till operatives and I did nothing.
Then they came for the security guards and I did nothing ......
Finally , they came for me...... "
What do expect people to do Granny? |
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
Tom , that is going to be one full store. I went around all my local shops yesterday ' eye selecting' Christmas food to buy in ..... I bought nothing.
How the HELL can they stop me from leaving the store.
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"First they came for the people on the service counters and I did nothing.
Then they came for the till operatives and I did nothing.
Then they came for the security guards and I did nothing ......
Finally , they came for me......
What do expect people to do Granny? "
I would say to the Forum, as I said to those who have joined the 'Like
Fuck Will They Stop Me Leaving Movement' : I have nothing to offer but food, foil, pears and sweets. We shall fight by the peaches. We shall fight in Customer Service . We shall fight in the aisles, and in the trolley park, we shall fight at the tills. |
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"First they came for the people on the service counters and I did nothing.
Then they came for the till operatives and I did nothing.
Then they came for the security guards and I did nothing ......
Finally , they came for me......
What do expect people to do Granny?
I would say to the Forum, as I said to those who have joined the 'Like
Fuck Will They Stop Me Leaving Movement' : I have nothing to offer but food, foil, pears and sweets. We shall fight by the peaches. We shall fight in Customer Service . We shall fight in the aisles, and in the trolley park, we shall fight at the tills."
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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This has been the case at IKEA self serve till for years.
Takes a mere second to scan a receipt and if we've been and not bought anything then we don't go through the self serve till so aren't affected.
They spot check people to make sure they've scanned all their items. And I've seen several times people try the 'ooh sorry, must have accidentally missed that one' line when being spot checked, so sadly it seems to be a necessary process.
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I would say to the Forum, as I said to those who have joined the 'Like
Fuck Will They Stop Me Leaving Movement' : I have nothing to offer but food, foil, pears and sweets. We shall fight by the peaches. We shall fight in Customer Service . We shall fight in the aisles, and in the trolley park, we shall fight at the tills."
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"We shop at Sainsburys every week and have no problem with this..we have nothing to hide.
The 'we nothing to hide' brigade "
Nothing to hide but fear itself... Its weak sauce as an argument for having to present and be searched having been forced to use a self serve till... And on cctv... And on camera... And observed by security folk... Nah.. When's enough enough.? |
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline.
Why are his posts easy to spot?"
Lol! it's the kind of thing that I do see in the headlines and then tell myself "don't read that. you don't need your amygdala activated right now"   |
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over a year ago
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline.
Why are his posts easy to spot? Lol! it's the kind of thing that I do see in the headlines and then tell myself "don't read that. you don't need your amygdala activated right now" "
Tom will do more to disguise his posts but one poster actually compared Tom's posts to the mark of Zorrow... |
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My god reading this thread has seriously knocked my confidence in humankind.
Firstly it's the whole why should I scan document. What do you do at passport control? Refuse?
Secondly it's againsty civil liberties, what do you do if you need to show a bank statement as proof of address for a credit agreement?
Thirdly if you ever use self-service and buy alcohol do you get annoyed that the checkout person needs to check your shopping?
Lastly are you all so dodgy that you have to hide?? |
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"My god reading this thread has seriously knocked my confidence in humankind.
Firstly it's the whole why should I scan document. What do you do at passport control? Refuse?
Secondly it's againsty civil liberties, what do you do if you need to show a bank statement as proof of address for a credit agreement?
Thirdly if you ever use self-service and buy alcohol do you get annoyed that the checkout person needs to check your shopping?
Lastly are you all so dodgy that you have to hide??"
Spurious beyond spurious ......
1. A supermarket checkout is NOT an international border.
2. No one is asking for credit - they have paid for their goods and have a receipt.
3. Demonising people by suggesting they are 'dodgy' is the favourite mode of those without reasonable argument.
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"It's only in a couple of stores in London, and it's only for the self checkout area!
Apparently this is quite common in France and Germany.
Nope, its already started at my local Sainsbury's in Luton.
But as you say, it is only the self checkout"
So if you don't buy anything you don't go through the self checkout and don't need a receipt. Logical.
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over a year ago
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"My god reading this thread has seriously knocked my confidence in humankind.
Firstly it's the whole why should I scan document. What do you do at passport control? Refuse?
Secondly it's againsty civil liberties, what do you do if you need to show a bank statement as proof of address for a credit agreement?
Thirdly if you ever use self-service and buy alcohol do you get annoyed that the checkout person needs to check your shopping?
Lastly are you all so dodgy that you have to hide??
Spurious beyond spurious ......
1. A supermarket checkout is NOT an international border.
2. No one is asking for credit - they have paid for their goods and have a receipt.
3. Demonising people by suggesting they are 'dodgy' is the favourite mode of those without reasonable argument.
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Is Granny Crumpet agreeing with Essex Tom |
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I do love how people private message their opinions to you rather than put it on here where it should be.
This has been going on in various shops for months so it's not a new thing. If you can't wait 2 seconds for a receipt to print out you will be more inconvenienced stood by the exit trying to prove you paid for your shopping.
Opinions stay on the forum not my inbox please , like I have time to read that bollocky stuff |
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By *XZRMan
over a year ago
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Makes you wonder how anybody worrying about something so trivial made it through a pandemic? As many have already stated it exists in many shops and many other countries already.
If you don't like it, shop, or more likely shoplift somewhere else.
God only knows what panic attacks you'll have at a train station where there are ticket barriers at both ends of your journey, if this basic concept inside a supermarket is causing such fear.
Next...fear mongering topic please.... |
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"My god reading this thread has seriously knocked my confidence in humankind.
Firstly it's the whole why should I scan document. What do you do at passport control? Refuse?
Secondly it's againsty civil liberties, what do you do if you need to show a bank statement as proof of address for a credit agreement?
Thirdly if you ever use self-service and buy alcohol do you get annoyed that the checkout person needs to check your shopping?
Lastly are you all so dodgy that you have to hide??
Spurious beyond spurious ......
1. A supermarket checkout is NOT an international border.
2. No one is asking for credit - they have paid for their goods and have a receipt.
3. Demonising people by suggesting they are 'dodgy' is the favourite mode of those without reasonable argument.
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1. Correct maybe I should have said what do you do when collecting an order from Argos.
2. The point is showing a receipt is hardly anything that is against your civil liberties.
3. My point is if you have nothing to worry about then scanning your receipt shouldn't be an issue.
But I see that no argument to having things like alcohol being checked as issue yet not too far from the same reason to check. |
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over a year ago
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"Just a quickie for everyone mentioning the waste of paper a receipt system requires.....
How do you return something if necessary without a receipt?
A"
Well if Tom buys any sort of electrical item or something similar then of course he keeps his receipt. For a tin of peas and four cans of cider he does not bother.
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Just a quickie for everyone mentioning the waste of paper a receipt system requires.....
How do you return something if necessary without a receipt?
A
Well if Tom buys any sort of electrical item or something similar then of course he keeps his receipt. For a tin of peas and four cans of cider he does not bother.
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I bought some stuff at the self service till at Asda the other day. Turned out the chicken was 2 days out of date.
Luckily I had a receipt to show I hadn't bought it a week ago so I cwas able to return it and swap it.....
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"Just a quickie for everyone mentioning the waste of paper a receipt system requires.....
How do you return something if necessary without a receipt?
A"
Because if you purchase the items in Sainsbury's, they are recorded on your Nectar card.
So no need for a receipt.
You used to have the option if you wanted a receipt printed or not. But now its printed automatically if using the self service
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over a year ago
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"Just a quickie for everyone mentioning the waste of paper a receipt system requires.....
How do you return something if necessary without a receipt?
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Because if you purchase the items in Sainsbury's, they are recorded on your Nectar card.
So no need for a receipt.
You used to have the option if you wanted a receipt printed or not. But now its printed automatically if using the self service
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I don't have a nectar card.
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"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline.
Why are his posts easy to spot? Lol! it's the kind of thing that I do see in the headlines and then tell myself "don't read that. you don't need your amygdala activated right now"
Tom will do more to disguise his posts but one poster actually compared Tom's posts to the mark of Zorrow..."
Lol! Zorrow or Sorrow?! |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Reports of a pilot scheme at some Sainsbury's where you cannot exit the store without scanning a valid till receipt. Is this the future?
What's going on here guys. It's all over the news
I literally saw this title and thought that's got to be Essex Tom and behold I was right.
As for the till receipt scanning, they already do this at Primark, Ikea and Amazon Fresh.
At 40, I decided that I'm too old to stand in the way of "progress" and let them youn'uns have at it. I survived this long without worrying about what supermarkets do. Long may that continue.
Sidenote for my mental health I don't allow a constant stream of news headlines into my life. It activates the amygdala constantly and creates anxiety disorder and fills your body with adrenaline for the threat responses of flight-freeze-fight-fawn. We weren't designed to live on constant adrenaline.
Why are his posts easy to spot? Lol! it's the kind of thing that I do see in the headlines and then tell myself "don't read that. you don't need your amygdala activated right now"
Tom will do more to disguise his posts but one poster actually compared Tom's posts to the mark of Zorrow...
Lol! Zorrow or Sorrow?! "
Zorro... The poster said that Tom's posts reminded him of the series and that Tom was like Sergeant Garcia.
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm literally here to read the amusing comments....for some mild entertainment while I wait for my hair mask/self-care routine to be complete.
I have zero fucks to give about a receipt or self-scan or Sainsbury's (I work for the competition and Sainsbury's isn't my nearest supermarket) "
Tom is astonished that ladies in hair salons, nail bars and beauty Parlours are literally sat there following Essex Tom.
Well the only way is Tom |
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"I'm literally here to read the amusing comments....for some mild entertainment while I wait for my hair mask/self-care routine to be complete.
I have zero fucks to give about a receipt or self-scan or Sainsbury's (I work for the competition and Sainsbury's isn't my nearest supermarket)
Tom is astonished that ladies in hair salons, nail bars and beauty Parlours are literally sat there following Essex Tom.
Well the only way is Tom "
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"I'm literally here to read the amusing comments....for some mild entertainment while I wait for my hair mask/self-care routine to be complete.
I have zero fucks to give about a receipt or self-scan or Sainsbury's (I work for the competition and Sainsbury's isn't my nearest supermarket)
Tom is astonished that ladies in hair salons, nail bars and beauty Parlours are literally sat there following Essex Tom.
Well the only way is Tom
TOWIT "
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Because if you purchase the items in Sainsbury's, they are recorded on your Nectar card.
So no need for a receipt.
You used to have the option if you wanted a receipt printed or not. But now its printed automatically if using the self service
I don't have a nectar card.
A"
Ok....and??? You asked a question, i answered it.
So i guess you need a receipt. Or get a Nectar card if you shop at Sainsbury's.
But i think ive explained why its a waste of paper. |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"I'm literally here to read the amusing comments....for some mild entertainment while I wait for my hair mask/self-care routine to be complete.
I have zero fucks to give about a receipt or self-scan or Sainsbury's (I work for the competition and Sainsbury's isn't my nearest supermarket)
Tom is astonished that ladies in hair salons, nail bars and beauty Parlours are literally sat there following Essex Tom.
Well the only way is Tom
TOWIT
Towoo"
Not lost on Tom .. |
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"I'm literally here to read the amusing comments....for some mild entertainment while I wait for my hair mask/self-care routine to be complete.
I have zero fucks to give about a receipt or self-scan or Sainsbury's (I work for the competition and Sainsbury's isn't my nearest supermarket)
Tom is astonished that ladies in hair salons, nail bars and beauty Parlours are literally sat there following Essex Tom.
Well the only way is Tom
TOWIT
Towoo
Not lost on Tom .."
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"My god reading this thread has seriously knocked my confidence in humankind.
Firstly it's the whole why should I scan document. What do you do at passport control? Refuse?
Secondly it's againsty civil liberties, what do you do if you need to show a bank statement as proof of address for a credit agreement?
Thirdly if you ever use self-service and buy alcohol do you get annoyed that the checkout person needs to check your shopping?
Lastly are you all so dodgy that you have to hide??
Spurious beyond spurious ......
1. A supermarket checkout is NOT an international border.
2. No one is asking for credit - they have paid for their goods and have a receipt.
3. Demonising people by suggesting they are 'dodgy' is the favourite mode of those without reasonable argument.
Is Granny Crumpet agreeing with Essex Tom"
God Forbid Tom. Tom tell Tom I said that please. |
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"The barriers are in my local Sainsbury’s… it’s creating chaos because no one had ever bothered to get a receipt before. But if it will deter shoplifters, I am all for it. "
Shoplifters? In Redhill? I don't believe it. |
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"Is it madness? I recall back in my youth that a guy at my college with went to Asda everyday for 2 years to get his lunch & didn’t pay for it once. Just walked right out the store, never got caught.
If you’re paying for your food as you should what’s the issue?
Gotta admire your friend's commitment, every day for two years!
I think the issue is the idea that you are held hostage unless you make a purchase. Like sometimes I may go in for one thing, not find it and walk out again. In the scenario above I'd have to find and talk to security to let me out. Maybe next step they'll ask for a bag search & pat-down in case I'm smuggling out some taste-the-difference."
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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago
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"The barriers are in my local Sainsbury’s… it’s creating chaos because no one had ever bothered to get a receipt before. But if it will deter shoplifters, I am all for it.
Shoplifters? In Redhill? I don't believe it. "
Neither do I, strangely!
I am out of here 85% of the time in 5 star hotels around the world anyway and even then my £1.5m house isn’t too bad a place to get home to. Even if it is in Redhill.
Crack down on those shoplifters I say. |
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By *ndy58Man
over a year ago
Birmingham |
This thread has made me realise why my local Morrisons installed barriers at the exit from the self scan area a few months ago - they haven't yet implemented scanning a receipt to leave the area but I now won't be surprised when they do. Not a problem for me as I always get a receipt anyway to keep track of my spending. |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
Reading |
I notice posters are saying about receipts to get out. My local Lidl which is about ten minutes walk from my house. You have to go in thru the ‘ in door’ then another ‘ in door’ . So cannot go back out both doors unless someone else entering store. Exit is one door out, past either the checkouts , if not open a barrier or thru self checkouts which has a staff person in case of verifying age etc.
The Aldi a bit farther away has one entrance and one exit. So to get out means either waiting for someone coming in or going thru checkouts.
Both have security cameras pointing at entrance and exit doors .
I use my local superstore most Fridays when they open . So have most times to use self checkouts. Trouble is if like today I buy something that ‘ triggers ‘ over 18 sale . Have to wait for a person to come and do a code to say ok. This before can pay etc. Plus there are cameras on each self service checkout .
My other thought. If buying online , do people complain on ‘checkout’ having to wait and then confirm to your bank that it is you who is buying an product ? |
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By *htcMan
over a year ago
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No problem. It's normal Costco do the same since they opened.
It's even normal in other countries. Prevents theft. Hopefully they soon will invent a tag that when scanned at the till deactivates so can go through the exit no need. |
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"The barriers are in my local Sainsbury’s… it’s creating chaos because no one had ever bothered to get a receipt before. But if it will deter shoplifters, I am all for it.
Shoplifters? In Redhill? I don't believe it.
Neither do I, strangely!
I am out of here 85% of the time in 5 star hotels around the world anyway and even then my £1.5m house isn’t too bad a place to get home to. Even if it is in Redhill.
Crack down on those shoplifters I say. "
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I'm assuming nobody here has ever used self scan and not had to do a random check to make sure you scanned everything?
I had to use the barcode scan today took me all of a second to scan and walk out, hardly a violation. |
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"How does it prevent theft ???
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Because the shoplifters will suddenly develop a conscience and put things back or pay for them? Whilst the others will just queue up and show the security bloke their receipt so he can rifle through their bags... Its progress granny |
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Because the shoplifters will suddenly develop a conscience and put things back or pay for them? Whilst the others will just queue up and show the security bloke their receipt so he can rifle through their bags... Its progress granny"
So someone checks the shopping that I bought ?
After I've packed it ?
I've got a great idea ..... employ more people on the tills. |
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They have trollies that lock the wheels if you leave and return.
I got to the carpark and realised I had forgotten to stop to get something from the separate little desk by the door. Went back in and got stuck leaving the 2nd time.... |
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"How does it prevent theft ???
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It won't prevent all so much as deter a few.
They'll have done the figures, balanced out the potential losses and obviously the powers-that-be have figured the uptick from the added convenience outweighs the risk and losses |
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"They have trollies that lock the wheels if you leave and return.
I got to the carpark and realised I had forgotten to stop to get something from the separate little desk by the door. Went back in and got stuck leaving the 2nd time...."
What kind of wizardry is built into a sainsbury's trolley? Are they disposable and single use only? |
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"They have trollies that lock the wheels if you leave and return.
I got to the carpark and realised I had forgotten to stop to get something from the separate little desk by the door. Went back in and got stuck leaving the 2nd time....
What kind of wizardry is built into a sainsbury's trolley? Are they disposable and single use only?"
well they did have to come and wave a gadget by the wheel to release it/me so wizardry of sorts |
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"They have trollies that lock the wheels if you leave and return.
I got to the carpark and realised I had forgotten to stop to get something from the separate little desk by the door. Went back in and got stuck leaving the 2nd time....
What kind of wizardry is built into a sainsbury's trolley? Are they disposable and single use only?"
You have to put another 50p in the trolley meter |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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Tom is a big fan of Liverpool but he remembers hearing about a Scouser who took his trolley full of heavy shopping home with the intention of returning the trolley. He brought his last shopping bag into the house and when he went back outside to return the trolley he found that someone had stollen the wheels and left the trolley propped up on house bricks. He went back into the house to telephone the police. Shortly after he went outside again and someone had stollen the bricks... |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"Tom is a big fan of Liverpool but he remembers hearing about a Scouser who took his trolley full of heavy shopping home with the intention of returning the trolley. He brought his last shopping bag into the house and when he went back outside to return the trolley he found that someone had stollen the wheels and left the trolley propped up on house bricks. He went back into the house to telephone the police. Shortly after he went outside again and someone had stollen the bricks... "
Did they not have a mobile phone they could of used and waited with the trolley on bricks? |
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