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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather "
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hey Pete - do you have any trouble getting to work, other than having to squeeze past clowns blocking the road with their Summer and All Season's fitted?"
I do all my clown work on Zoom these days  |
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"The clown car you have to have big feet to drive 
Size 13's big enough?
Two clown cars here, both fitted with Nokian WR-D4's. Clowning around in the snow is my favourite fun."
I prefer shagging, but I respect your fun opinion.
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
Longridge |
Yep - best Winter tyres money can buy..
Winter tyres got me a shag last night, out dogging and another car arrived fitted with Winter tyres.
Only our two cars there, much fun over their bonnet at minus seven.
Least my dick was warm!!
That's why snow driving is fun. No idiots out dogging, except the guy in his BMW last night that skidded into a post and broke his bumper. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to have to do quite a lot of winter driving so I invested in a small 4x4 with sets of wheels an tyres for summer and winter. We had no significant snow for the next four years…
I used to drive big 4x4 for work and unless you know how to drive them properly it makes little difference. I used to see lots of stuck 4x4s. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"I used to have to do quite a lot of winter driving so I invested in a small 4x4 with sets of wheels an tyres for summer and winter. We had no significant snow for the next four years…
I used to drive big 4x4 for work and unless you know how to drive them properly it makes little difference. I used to see lots of stuck 4x4s."
I drove a Mondeo Estate for many years, like you Alloys for Summer, Steel Wheels with Winter tyres for Winter.
Used to take it to the Ski resorts in Scotland and drive past many £65K Range Rovers who were stuck in half an inch of snow.
It's not the car, it's the tyres. Had a Nissan Note until September with same, that car would take me anywhere.
Even careful driving on anything else, slight incline and you could be stuffed without. Seen it many times and I have had lots of snow driving but lost count how many other people's cars I've driven while helping them out with no traction.
As soon as the weight of the car presses water out the ice, its over.
My mum has Nokian Weatherproof - true European All Season tyres as did the Note once I got fed up changing wheels and stuck to one set all year. They were as good as the D4's. |
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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago
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"Most have all year round tyres that are ok in snow if you know how to drive in snow"
And that's the thing, unless you have lessons that coincide with bad weather, no one can teach you practically how to drive in snow. Especially the rare mega snow we get.
I'm a summer baby so I did my lessons May - August and took a couple years after that until I had to drive in BAD snow. |
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Have an old rav 4 on winter tyres drives well in snow but dose not stop others plowing in to you.
My work van low mileage lives on winters will go out if desperate as an electrical engineer. Will do what I can to help out. |
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"It's not *that* hard to drive in snow, really.
Doesn't matter how good you are, no traction is no traction..
It's not about being skilled, just go slow and don't be a dick."
Isn’t that a skill.
Of course driving in slippery conditions require skill. It’s why some people can get up hills and some can’t.
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"It's not *that* hard to drive in snow, really.
Doesn't matter how good you are, no traction is no traction..
It's not about being skilled, just go slow and don't be a dick.
Isn’t that a skill.
Of course driving in slippery conditions require skill. It’s why some people can get up hills and some can’t.
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I don't know. I wouldn't call myself a "skilled driver" but I've never had a problem driving in snow and that's in a rear wheel drive too. I just try to be respectful of the conditions. |
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"It's not *that* hard to drive in snow, really.
Doesn't matter how good you are, no traction is no traction..
It's not about being skilled, just go slow and don't be a dick.
Isn’t that a skill.
Of course driving in slippery conditions require skill. It’s why some people can get up hills and some can’t.
I don't know. I wouldn't call myself a "skilled driver" but I've never had a problem driving in snow and that's in a rear wheel drive too. I just try to be respectful of the conditions. "
You are probably more skilled than you give yourself credit for… |
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"The clown car you have to have big feet to drive
Size 13's big enough?
Two clown cars here, both fitted with Nokian WR-D4's. Clowning around in the snow is my favourite fun."
I hope you aren’t doing any dangerous driving, you’ll have to report yourself with your own dash cam footage. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've just had 2 front winter tyres put on my car last week. I definitely need them for where I live. I get snow when other places don't because of how high up I live. They do make a difference but it also comes down to how you drive too. |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
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My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
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I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions. |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
Boo's World |
"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions. "
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Many countries have mandatory winter tyre regulations
I'm surprised they haven't brought it out here yet
Had a mate living abroad for a while said he had to swap his around October till march and got fined for each tyre that wasn't right |
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"Many countries have mandatory winter tyre regulations
I'm surprised they haven't brought it out here yet
Had a mate living abroad for a while said he had to swap his around October till march and got fined for each tyre that wasn't right"
Yep.. And in the event of an accident. If you're not on the correct tyres you have no insurance. |
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres "
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!  |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
Boo's World |
"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!! "
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with..... |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
Boo's World |
"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!! "
I also don't gag whilst driving!
That would be dangerous! |
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with..... "
OK meet at a track and we can see what gap you would need I done a frozen track training day years ago in a 4x4 coswerth you did lapsing both normal and winters to see how it handled changed my mind.
And remember winters aren't just for snow just performing better in the cold and wet diferant compound. |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
Boo's World |
"Many countries have mandatory winter tyre regulations
I'm surprised they haven't brought it out here yet
Had a mate living abroad for a while said he had to swap his around October till march and got fined for each tyre that wasn't right
Yep.. And in the event of an accident. If you're not on the correct tyres you have no insurance. "
Winter tyres are not mandatory yet within the UK for insurance purposes. Other places in Europe it's different.
If you live somewhere remote then obviously you'd change your tyres, but no legal requirement to have to do so in the UK at present. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety."
Where have people been getting stuck in their cars? as they haven't really heard any reports of that and normally you do if it happens. |
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety.
Where have people been getting stuck in their cars? as they haven't really heard any reports of that and normally you do if it happens. "
Hastings Gesstling Hill Sunday night 50 plus cars abandoned. Was taking 5 hours to do 2 miles not good. |
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with.....
OK meet at a track and we can see what gap you would need I done a frozen track training day years ago in a 4x4 coswerth you did lapsing both normal and winters to see how it handled changed my mind.
And remember winters aren't just for snow just performing better in the cold and wet diferant compound. "
Embarassed for you. |
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with.....
OK meet at a track and we can see what gap you would need I done a frozen track training day years ago in a 4x4 coswerth you did lapsing both normal and winters to see how it handled changed my mind.
And remember winters aren't just for snow just performing better in the cold and wet diferant compound.
Embarassed for you."
To get a reply from you I'll take it but thanks. ?? |
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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago
Boo's World |
"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with.....
OK meet at a track and we can see what gap you would need I done a frozen track training day years ago in a 4x4 coswerth you did lapsing both normal and winters to see how it handled changed my mind.
And remember winters aren't just for snow just performing better in the cold and wet diferant compound. "
Again you assume a lot of things....
How do you know I've not done a track day myself?
How do you know I've not also had a training course to drive on a specialist ice road in a skid car?
How do you know I've not been round race tracks in High powered cars before?
Or had some extra driving training with a specialist trainer?
Don't assume you are the only person who knows what they are doing when a little bit of snow and ice hits the roads.
I may be female but rest assured i can drive and know what I'm doing. Some females love cars/driving and extra track experiences too.
Have a good evening
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"My car doesn't have winter tyres, it has very low profile rubber band style ones.
It's also rear wheel drive.
It also manages just fine in the Snow.
I'm also driving along really icy roads.
It still goes up hills and down hills fine. I can also go round corners too without sliding around.
It must be because I can drive and not drive like a clown or a knobhead......
I admire your Confidence. I hope your low profile rubber band tyres remain safe in the icy conditions.
I've done alright so far in my 25 years of driving and not having to buy winter tyres
Just hope your not following me as when I stop in my 4 x 4 on winters you will probably slid in to the back of me your fault of course as you did not leave a big enough gag not mine for having different tyres!!
Again you assume no one else can drive bar you obviously, as you're assuming I'd be driving that close to your precious 4 x 4 with winter tyres, that I'd hit my expensive car into the back of it to start with.....
OK meet at a track and we can see what gap you would need I done a frozen track training day years ago in a 4x4 coswerth you did lapsing both normal and winters to see how it handled changed my mind.
And remember winters aren't just for snow just performing better in the cold and wet diferant compound.
Again you assume a lot of things....
How do you know I've not done a track day myself?
How do you know I've not also had a training course to drive on a specialist ice road in a skid car?
How do you know I've not been round race tracks in High powered cars before?
Or had some extra driving training with a specialist trainer?
Don't assume you are the only person who knows what they are doing when a little bit of snow and ice hits the roads.
I may be female but rest assured i can drive and know what I'm doing. Some females love cars/driving and extra track experiences too.
Have a good evening
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I don't like driving or cars but have to do it for work?
But I do stick buy winter tyres just wish thay would call them cold or wet.
Have a good evening. |
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I’ve driven all over Europe, in all weathers, and I never really credited the difference that winter tyres would make until I drove in Finland in the winter.
For those old enough to remember, it’s genuinely like the difference between modern radials and old fashioned crossplies.
In this country, having done the steel wheels and winter tyres swapping about with successive cars over the last fifteen years or so, I have finally settled with running Michelin Cross-Climate all-season tyres on the family daily. They’re better all round than the OE fit Bridgestones, quieter and with way more grip in all situations, particularly cold and wet. The car (a RWD performance one) is more planted than my 4x4. |
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"I’ve driven all over Europe, in all weathers, and I never really credited the difference that winter tyres would make until I drove in Finland in the winter.
For those old enough to remember, it’s genuinely like the difference between modern radials and old fashioned crossplies.
In this country, having done the steel wheels and winter tyres swapping about with successive cars over the last fifteen years or so, I have finally settled with running Michelin Cross-Climate all-season tyres on the family daily. They’re better all round than the OE fit Bridgestones, quieter and with way more grip in all situations, particularly cold and wet. The car (a RWD performance one) is more planted than my 4x4. "
Do you have them inflated with nitrogen in stead of air as its more stable as well. And as they grip better it reduces boil off. |
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety.
Where have people been getting stuck in their cars? as they haven't really heard any reports of that and normally you do if it happens.
Hastings Gesstling Hill Sunday night 50 plus cars abandoned. Was taking 5 hours to do 2 miles not good."
Or were they just out dogging? |
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety.
Where have people been getting stuck in their cars? as they haven't really heard any reports of that and normally you do if it happens.
Hastings Gesstling Hill Sunday night 50 plus cars abandoned. Was taking 5 hours to do 2 miles not good.
Or were they just out dogging? "
Don't know but my lane is still like an ice rink it was strange the snow on my van melted and slipped off the bonnet then froze mid fall and was there for 24 hours. So I think it was the thawing then re freezing that done it. But it was a mess. |
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"Some of those clowns have to get to work whatever the weather
They should put the correct rubber on their wheels if getting to work is so important to risk their own and other people's safety.
Where have people been getting stuck in their cars? as they haven't really heard any reports of that and normally you do if it happens. "
Plenty of people got stuck round here on Sunday night. Cars were being abandoned on hills. Some of our roads are still treacherous.
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"I’ve driven all over Europe, in all weathers, and I never really credited the difference that winter tyres would make until I drove in Finland in the winter.
For those old enough to remember, it’s genuinely like the difference between modern radials and old fashioned crossplies.
In this country, having done the steel wheels and winter tyres swapping about with successive cars over the last fifteen years or so, I have finally settled with running Michelin Cross-Climate all-season tyres on the family daily. They’re better all round than the OE fit Bridgestones, quieter and with way more grip in all situations, particularly cold and wet. The car (a RWD performance one) is more planted than my 4x4. "
Similar here, still have two sets for XTrail, Nokian WR D4s and Leaf Nokian AllWeather as save changing.
TBH, proper European All Season Mountain Snowflake have been as good as the D4s, think next swap will be these for all year.
The standard UK All Season are a joke. |
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"I’ve driven all over Europe, in all weathers, and I never really credited the difference that winter tyres would make until I drove in Finland in the winter.
For those old enough to remember, it’s genuinely like the difference between modern radials and old fashioned crossplies.
In this country, having done the steel wheels and winter tyres swapping about with successive cars over the last fifteen years or so, I have finally settled with running Michelin Cross-Climate all-season tyres on the family daily. They’re better all round than the OE fit Bridgestones, quieter and with way more grip in all situations, particularly cold and wet. The car (a RWD performance one) is more planted than my 4x4.
Similar here, still have two sets for XTrail, Nokian WR D4s and Leaf Nokian AllWeather as save changing.
TBH, proper European All Season Mountain Snowflake have been as good as the D4s, think next swap will be these for all year.
The standard UK All Season are a joke."
Yer lucky my old rat 4 dose very little miles so it is left on winters and due to milage I get it inflated with oxygen depleted air.
My van I swop over from a summer to a winter the garage store them and charge me £40 each time to swop all 4 so £80 a year if I need new then the swop is free. Cheaper then not working cos of bad weather. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions . "
I agree, and for the level of extreme weather we get in this country its not worth the effort, and I do 100000 miles a year. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
I agree, and for the level of extreme weather we get in this country its not worth the effort, and I do 100000 miles a year."
If you’re doing the miles, then you’re going to be wearing the tyres out anyway, so why wouldn’t you buy the ones most appropriate for the conditions? At 2000 miles a week you’ll be getting through at least two sets of tyres a year. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
I agree, and for the level of extreme weather we get in this country its not worth the effort, and I do 100000 miles a year.
If you’re doing the miles, then you’re going to be wearing the tyres out anyway, so why wouldn’t you buy the ones most appropriate for the conditions? At 2000 miles a week you’ll be getting through at least two sets of tyres a year. "
I run on Continentals all the time and find them absolutely fine for all weather's and conditions, I take care in adverse weather, some drivers I see have more to worry about than their tyres  |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions . "
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14! |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
I agree, and for the level of extreme weather we get in this country its not worth the effort, and I do 100000 miles a year."
So how many of them miles are done in wet or below 7 degrees c
So most of Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March, As a rule grass also grows above 7 degrees if I see my grass not needing mowing I change tyres.On the work van I also get a discount. Its not just about snow. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14! "
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level "
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish? |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?"
Fish are expensive at altitude because they don't have feet for hill walking  |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
Fish are expensive at altitude because they don't have feet for hill walking "
So *that's* why fish and chips is so expensive at Matlock Bath |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
Fish are expensive at altitude because they don't have feet for hill walking
So *that's* why fish and chips is so expensive at Matlock Bath"
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?"
Love this! 130m above SL... Not going to do a shred of difference
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"Some of us clowns need to go to work and not all of us are able to work from home!!"
Surely - if getting to and from work was 'so important' that travelling against advice and getting stuck on roads and motorways for hours waiting to be rescued putting others at risk, then investment in decent and capable tyres is key?
As for cost, I've heard these arguments before and it's nonsense.
By having two sets of tyres, in total, both sets will last three times longer due to burning off tread while skidding.
If you've ever driven on them, you'll never go back. I've taken front wheel drive Mondeo's and a Nissan Note to the mountains and Ski resorts of Scotland without ever having an issue of traction.
I need to travel regardless of the weather and using Winter tyres, I can take the back roads avoiding the clowns slipping and sliding around with no traction blocking routes for others.
Prior to tyres, I carried only Snow Chains, which for £30 are worth their weight in gold in snow or packed ice if you dont want to commit to tyres. I used them numerous times over the years but since switching to Winter tyres, have never used chains since - although still carried with a bucket of grit and small shovel.
How important is avoiding sliding into an insurance claim, how important is actually getting to work and back safely?
Its very important to me, hence the investment.
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?"
If you listen to weather forecasts, 'snow on higher ground', kind of means he's in the 'snow zone' when mist of the rest get sleet. Higher up, colder, its why mountains have snow caps. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
If you listen to weather forecasts, 'snow on higher ground', kind of means he's in the 'snow zone' when mist of the rest get sleet. Higher up, colder, its why mountains have snow caps."
According to an online elevation calculator, Hastings (if that's where he is) is only about 34m above sea level. We're apparently 118m above sea level here and although we did have some snow at the weekend, the roads are perfectly fine and can be driven on as normal. Preston isn't a million miles from us either.
Height above sea level doesn't guarantee that there's definitely more snow than somewhere lower down, nor that conditions are passable or not in a vehicle. If the LA does a good job of gritting and removing the ice from the roads, it's kind of irrelevant how high up you are.
But yes, on average, higher up places are more likely to see snow and more of it. At the moment, flatter parts of the south have more and worse snow than hilly parts of the north. |
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I dont get why people have so much trouble driving in any adverse weather, I have driven since I was too young to be on here and I'm 44 now and have never once felt the need for winter tyres on any of the cars, Van's or 7.5ton lorries that I have driven over the years even when I had my mini. It's all about driving sensibly, within the limits of your own ability and in accordance with the road conditions, I have driven 7.5ton lorries through snow up to the bumpers delivering stuff for different companies and it's no different to driving on to a building site covered in mud. The only time I ever had a seperat set of tyres for a vehicle was when i have my hilux surf and that was a set of aggressive off road tyres specifically for when I went to offroad centres to play in the mud. |
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Winter tyres are an aid (used to put them on this time of year when I lived in North Yorkshire). But I would say the biggest factor is the skill/experience of the driver in winter conditions and the general maintenance of the vehicle.
Can manage just fine without winter tyre and I'm no clown. I don't think acting all superior and insinuating most on here are clowns is going to win any freinds. |
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"Any tyres can drive through the snow if you’re not an idiot, stick it in 2nd gear don’t touch anything and just let the car do its thing.
The mr "
How do you stick in second in an EV it's auto and more will be in the next 10 years |
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"Any tyres can drive through the snow if you’re not an idiot, stick it in 2nd gear don’t touch anything and just let the car do its thing.
The mr
How do you stick in second in an EV it's auto and more will be in the next 10 years "
All the more reason to keep my manual as long as possible! I've never once had an issue driving in snow/ice on regular tyres. That said, if the roads look to be really badly covered, I make the decision not to drive...... |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
If you listen to weather forecasts, 'snow on higher ground', kind of means he's in the 'snow zone' when mist of the rest get sleet. Higher up, colder, its why mountains have snow caps.
According to an online elevation calculator, Hastings (if that's where he is) is only about 34m above sea level. We're apparently 118m above sea level here and although we did have some snow at the weekend, the roads are perfectly fine and can be driven on as normal. Preston isn't a million miles from us either.
Height above sea level doesn't guarantee that there's definitely more snow than somewhere lower down, nor that conditions are passable or not in a vehicle. If the LA does a good job of gritting and removing the ice from the roads, it's kind of irrelevant how high up you are.
But yes, on average, higher up places are more likely to see snow and more of it. At the moment, flatter parts of the south have more and worse snow than hilly parts of the north. "
I might have been wrong but can you check TN35 4LG |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
If you listen to weather forecasts, 'snow on higher ground', kind of means he's in the 'snow zone' when mist of the rest get sleet. Higher up, colder, its why mountains have snow caps.
According to an online elevation calculator, Hastings (if that's where he is) is only about 34m above sea level. We're apparently 118m above sea level here and although we did have some snow at the weekend, the roads are perfectly fine and can be driven on as normal. Preston isn't a million miles from us either.
Height above sea level doesn't guarantee that there's definitely more snow than somewhere lower down, nor that conditions are passable or not in a vehicle. If the LA does a good job of gritting and removing the ice from the roads, it's kind of irrelevant how high up you are.
But yes, on average, higher up places are more likely to see snow and more of it. At the moment, flatter parts of the south have more and worse snow than hilly parts of the north.
I might have been wrong but can you check TN35 4LG "
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Okay, you've flexed on some pretty weird stuff but what does being 130m above sea level have to do with the price of fish?
If you listen to weather forecasts, 'snow on higher ground', kind of means he's in the 'snow zone' when mist of the rest get sleet. Higher up, colder, its why mountains have snow caps."
I get that, but 130m doesn't seem particularly high. |
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I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
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over a year ago
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"Winter tyres are an aid (used to put them on this time of year when I lived in North Yorkshire). But I would say the biggest factor is the skill/experience of the driver in winter conditions and the general maintenance of the vehicle.
Can manage just fine without winter tyre and I'm no clown. I don't think acting all superior and insinuating most on here are clowns is going to win any freinds."
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Yep I'm pretty much on the top and it's a good view 40 mile all round on a clear morning. But you pay a price.
The hill hat was blocked climes 100m give or take in 1.5 mile but only the East side was bad |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day. "
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there "
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Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less. |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less. "
And if everyone used winter tyres in the winter when it rarely snows or is the condition for ice, we'd have a lot more particulate pollution from the excess rubber that would be rubbed off the tyres. The UK doesn't have long periods of snow/ice covering and it's rare nowadays to have enough snow/ice to even cover the road properly. We didn't really have any period of that last winter, for example. You can't keep changing your tyres every morning, depending on whether it's icy or not. Our weather is so unpredictable and variable. |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there "
It was not my drive items the main road not even my lane |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less. "
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level "
Where do you get your insurance from?
£250 excess
Thats madness , mines set at £50 and i can still get a decent quote per year.
You need to amend that right down and get more quotes. |
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"Wonder why they make snow tyres if they aren't needed?
For the more rural areas, you don't need them in most towns and cities!
Grit trucks are more common in those places too. "
I haven't seen a grit truck in the last week in my road. Hence why it's a skating rink. And im not sure unless you got chains that even you stick in 2nd and drive slow folks would get up the hill. There's a bottle of champagne at the top though if you can. |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less.
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
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Cheers Dreamy! I cycle to work and have already come off once this week on an iced road.
I can't see that anyone in the South of England needs Winter tyres, its mild until the end of November then warms up again start of March with only a few weeks of real ice or snow. Better to make sure your treads are good and drive sensibly. Arguably winter tyres will just encourage people to drive faster on ice as they think they're safer. |
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Where do you get your insurance from?
£250 excess
Thats madness , mines set at £50 and i can still get a decent quote per year.
You need to amend that right down and get more quotes. "
It's a business fleet policy before we downsized covid it was £1000 for the 37 vehicles |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less.
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
Cheers Dreamy! I cycle to work and have already come off once this week on an iced road.
I can't see that anyone in the South of England needs Winter tyres, its mild until the end of November then warms up again start of March with only a few weeks of real ice or snow. Better to make sure your treads are good and drive sensibly. Arguably winter tyres will just encourage people to drive faster on ice as they think they're safer."
As said winters are about 7 and below not snow just 7 degrees and below and the out perform all season but don't try driving above 50 in 15 or above as its like driving on ice |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there "
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"Some people can't even afford to put heating on never mind having to tyres for all occasions .
According to my smart meter I've spent £8 on gas today... My temp is set at 14!
But how much is you excess on your insurance £250 you might save that.
I get its about affordability. Its also for me self employed if I can't get to work I got get payed so the cost is off set in garenteing getting in for work. And the fact I live in a lane never grited and 130m above see level
Where do you get your insurance from?
£250 excess
Thats madness , mines set at £50 and i can still get a decent quote per year.
You need to amend that right down and get more quotes.
It's a business fleet policy before we downsized covid it was £1000 for the 37 vehicles"
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there
I wonder if relaying a drive is more economical than a set of winters.? "
Lasts for 20 years they reckon so work out all the tyre costs for cars in that timescale if you don't plan to move house anytime soon. |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less.
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
Cheers Dreamy! I cycle to work and have already come off once this week on an iced road.
I can't see that anyone in the South of England needs Winter tyres, its mild until the end of November then warms up again start of March with only a few weeks of real ice or snow. Better to make sure your treads are good and drive sensibly. Arguably winter tyres will just encourage people to drive faster on ice as they think they're safer."
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there
I wonder if relaying a drive is more economical than a set of winters.?
Lasts for 20 years they reckon so work out all the tyre costs for cars in that timescale if you don't plan to move house anytime soon. "
Mine is concrete so I can get 36ton lorry In and out oh an the odd 50 tone crain I grit and clearing it but this one hill A259 Guessling up to ore defrosted then re frozze the same with the lane I live in don't think much can help it if gatwic had to close ? ? |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there
I wonder if relaying a drive is more economical than a set of winters.?
Lasts for 20 years they reckon so work out all the tyre costs for cars in that timescale if you don't plan to move house anytime soon. "
Yes top tip indeed.
Winters or not. Safe driving folks. Nobody needs a fender bender. |
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less.
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
Cheers Dreamy! I cycle to work and have already come off once this week on an iced road.
I can't see that anyone in the South of England needs Winter tyres, its mild until the end of November then warms up again start of March with only a few weeks of real ice or snow. Better to make sure your treads are good and drive sensibly. Arguably winter tyres will just encourage people to drive faster on ice as they think they're safer.
You need to invest in some bubble wrap on that bike of yours "
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"Wonder how many clowns that ignored advice to travel are stuck in snow in cars without Winter tyres?"
not this clown
I have a winched pickup, im the clown who pulls BMW owners out of ditches when they try beat the motorway traffic |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"Any tyres can drive through the snow if you’re not an idiot, stick it in 2nd gear don’t touch anything and just let the car do its thing.
The mr
How do you stick in second in an EV it's auto and more will be in the next 10 years "
EV is an interesting one, this is the first time and Winter of having one.
The motor control of the car itself will avoid all possible chances for the wheels to slip.
An automatic is spin or nothing, a manual is carefull clutch control.
However, the Nissan Leaf has surprised me. Slam the accelerator to the floor, there is zero spin. It simply refuses to add more torque onto the road than will cause slip.
It's a strange experience at first, just push the pedal and the car does the rest.
It is strange that Winter tyres are made and sold if no one needs them!!
- Softer rubber
- Designed to bite snow and packed ice
- Excellent slush and rain ejection
The problem with standard tyres is below 4'C, they become rock hard and not supple enough to grip.
One day, incline or worse, downhill you'll loose traction and become nvolved in yet another Winter insurance claim.
I am more than capable of driving in snow with Summer tyres but at 2%-10% of their traction in snow compared to 70%-100% with Winter versions, I like my car and prefer to not risk getting stuck or damaging it.
Some of the clips on the news this week, no driver, however good could have avoided the accident that occured.
Sorry, but at minus 10 as it was last night to minus 4 of most of today - solid tyres, no thanks.
The only thing stops me getting home is the clowns who can't drive or have tyres incapable of any meaningful traction.
Hence, I take the snow covered backroads.
4 years ago, I entered the M61 to find Snow-Clowns, mostly trucks had blocked 3 lanes. It should be law that in snow, only those with Winter tyres fitted should be allowed in the outside lane to let those with traction pass.
I phoned Greater Manchester Police to advise myself and 5 others were about to reverse back up the sliproad back up to the A roads.
After being given a lecture by the operator as to why it was 'illegal'. I eventually flagged down a police car and explained that as I considered the situation "life threatening", then I am leaving the motorway. I'd actually Googled advice and as long as you are willing to justify your reasons in court, they cannot stop me.
After checking our tyres, he moved over and let us leave in reverse, back up the slip road. 16 hours overnight they were stuck there.
Another police car at the top stopping more traffic entering the slip was at the top waiting. After a quick chat, stopped traffic and sent us on our way.
Driving style is irrelevant if the tyre simply cannot grip!
Failing tyres, £35 for a cheap set of chairs will get anyone home. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"Oh, and one final thought.
If we all used winter tyres instead of the council throwing salt everywhere, it would be better for the environment, cheaper on the Council tax, and our cars/vans/motorcycles would all rust much less.
What about the pedestrians, elderly,cyclists,wheelchair users, people with prams that still need to cross over roads and use paths and redways?
We leave those ungritted and let people break their necks?
Makes sense that
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Pavements gritted?
Where do you live, they can't even grit the perimeter of my busy local hospital here - that's another big JOKE.
Packed ice on Pavements.. |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there
I wonder if relaying a drive is more economical than a set of winters.?
Lasts for 20 years they reckon so work out all the tyre costs for cars in that timescale if you don't plan to move house anytime soon. "
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No snow here, but hard frosts for days (-9.5 this morning), and I’ve had my winter wheels with winter M&S tyres on my daily for over a week now. I have an Audi, with Quattro all wheel drive, and I’ve never been stuck anywhere. Makes up for the high road tax I pay |
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-7 here this morning. Drove to work without crashing or getting stuck on normal Michelin tyres. Not even a hint of abs kicking in or wheel spin.
Let’s see if I can do the same in the morning. Or should I get winter tyres just to be sure?
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"-7 here this morning. Drove to work without crashing or getting stuck on normal Michelin tyres. Not even a hint of abs kicking in or wheel spin.
Let’s see if I can do the same in the morning. Or should I get winter tyres just to be sure?
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Was the road grited?
Try it on un grited roads and see if you get the same result.. |
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"I’ve had this conversation with various people over the years.
At the end of the day, there are two types of people. Those who have driven on winter tyres and those who haven’t.
In my experience, those who have can see the benefits; those who haven’t can’t.
If you’ve never driven on winter tyres, then I’m afraid you are commenting from opinion not experience…
One last example. At my old house, I couldn’t get up my driveway on summer tyres, and what little progress I could make up it the handbrake wouldn’t hold the weight of the car. On the winter tyres the car would go straight up without any traction problems whatsoever, and the handbrake would hold the car at the steepest point no problem.
Anyway, you all have a good day.
Easy solution , change the driveway covering as you can actually get driveways laid now that are made from a form of rubber that looks no different to block paving and it helps those people that have steep drives!
Top tip of the day there
I wonder if relaying a drive is more economical than a set of winters.?
Lasts for 20 years they reckon so work out all the tyre costs for cars in that timescale if you don't plan to move house anytime soon.
Yes top tip indeed.
Winters or not. Safe driving folks. Nobody needs a fender bender. "
Cost £17,500 to dig out and pore the 144m2 of concrete on my drive I'll stick with Winters not diging that up. |
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over a year ago
Longridge |
"-7 here this morning. Drove to work without crashing or getting stuck on normal Michelin tyres. Not even a hint of abs kicking in or wheel spin.
Let’s see if I can do the same in the morning. Or should I get winter tyres just to be sure?
Was the road grited?
Try it on un grited roads and see if you get the same result.."
Wait until a fresh layer of snow lands on the hard packed under laying ice.
99% get away with it every day, bit they'll be one day they get caught out.
But, you can't convince them otherwise and you'll find your wasting your time and breath.
Once physics is against them, it won't matter how good the driving skills are, gravity and friction will fail them and until that day comes they'll live in Snow Driven Utopia.
Ice melts under pressure and combination of hard tyre rubber, down the slippery slope you go as the thin layer of water in between is lubrication to the traction.
Personally, I prefer safety over chancing it. You see the Snow-Clowns on the News moaning at how many hours they've been stuck and it's ridiculous that they are in the predicament they are innocent their own selfish making.
I believe Insurance companies should refuse to pay claims for any accident damage other than the 3rd party where a vehicle was driven with the wrong tyres for the conditions.
So much damage, collisions, street furniture and injuries for the sake of correct tyres.
Two years ago, 50mph on the A9 in a blizzard knowing I was in full control. Before anyone comments on the speed, the tyres I use are designed for it. I needed to get into Perth as not long after they closed the road.
Each to their own, but I prefer the safety of family and others around me and a car undamaged for the sake of a couple hundred quid.
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"-7 here this morning. Drove to work without crashing or getting stuck on normal Michelin tyres. Not even a hint of abs kicking in or wheel spin.
Let’s see if I can do the same in the morning. Or should I get winter tyres just to be sure?
Was the road grited?
Try it on un grited roads and see if you get the same result..
Wait until a fresh layer of snow lands on the hard packed under laying ice.
99% get away with it every day, bit they'll be one day they get caught out.
But, you can't convince them otherwise and you'll find your wasting your time and breath.
Once physics is against them, it won't matter how good the driving skills are, gravity and friction will fail them and until that day comes they'll live in Snow Driven Utopia.
Ice melts under pressure and combination of hard tyre rubber, down the slippery slope you go as the thin layer of water in between is lubrication to the traction.
Personally, I prefer safety over chancing it. You see the Snow-Clowns on the News moaning at how many hours they've been stuck and it's ridiculous that they are in the predicament they are innocent their own selfish making.
I believe Insurance companies should refuse to pay claims for any accident damage other than the 3rd party where a vehicle was driven with the wrong tyres for the conditions.
So much damage, collisions, street furniture and injuries for the sake of correct tyres.
Two years ago, 50mph on the A9 in a blizzard knowing I was in full control. Before anyone comments on the speed, the tyres I use are designed for it. I needed to get into Perth as not long after they closed the road.
Each to their own, but I prefer the safety of family and others around me and a car undamaged for the sake of a couple hundred quid.
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"-7 here this morning. Drove to work without crashing or getting stuck on normal Michelin tyres. Not even a hint of abs kicking in or wheel spin.
Let’s see if I can do the same in the morning. Or should I get winter tyres just to be sure?
Was the road grited?
Try it on un grited roads and see if you get the same result.."
No gritted roads on our housing estate. 15% hill to climb. No problem. Roads near where I work, like an ice rink. Still no problem.
Only -6 this morning. Like summer.. |
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Yep it has happened today some one pulled out I slammed on the brake, and stopped looked in the mirror to watch a car slid in to the back of me. Thank god for the toe bar think thay will need a new rad and bumper slid down the lane about 50m lol, it will just be a bumper on mine again. |
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over a year ago
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I giggle whhen these Big F150 ford trucks cant get up hills and the 4x4 school run mums & dads cant get up hills. Then me in my little pgout 208 just look and think . This is how you do it !!! |
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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"Yep it has happened today some one pulled out I slammed on the brake, and stopped looked in the mirror to watch a car slid in to the back of me. Thank god for the toe bar think thay will need a new rad and bumper slid down the lane about 50m lol, it will just be a bumper on mine again. "
I was rear ended by two Snow-Clowns in less than a week in a Mondeo estate.
Tow bar didn't save me from serious injury on the second as she hit me at 50-60mph.
Car looked undamaged apart from crack in bumper but twisted the chassis. The shockwave went through the car and slammed me into the seat causing severe lower back trauma and lung bruising.
I was in hospital for two days, all because I could stop, they couldn't. I drive cautious of braking on the assumption the Snow-Clown behind tailgating me won't be able to stop.
I'd been driving the mountains of Scotland for 10 days in it without a single issue, first one was in Bolton where lights changed, I stopped as there was a camera and was struck in the rear.
A few days later, exactly the same at Worsley on the East Lancs A580. Two cars written off by a Snow-Clown who had no idea roads were Skidby on slush.
Tow bars are handy but prevent crush zones from working and that can damned well hurt!!
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over a year ago
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What really cracks me up, paramedic quick response cars get Winter Tyres fitted - police don't spend the money.
Did you see the video on The Sun the other day where Snow-Clowns in cars and buses were sliding into each other and street furniture.
4x4 police car couldn't get up the hill with all its four wheels spinning.
I was flagged down a few years ago at a set of traffic lights by a copper who caught me up.on red, trying to accuse me of driving too fast in the snow.
Told him it was a good job I'd stopped as looking at his All Season specials and speed he was doing when I overtook him, that if I'd have 'taken off', he'd have no chance of keeping up with me.
I ended up giving him a lecture on safe Winter driving at speeds I consider safe and within the limits of the signs. In other words 'fuck off'.
We both ended up at the set of lights, as they changed I took off leaving him struggling to hill start.
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"What really cracks me up, paramedic quick response cars get Winter Tyres fitted - police don't spend the money.
Did you see the video on The Sun the other day where Snow-Clowns in cars and buses were sliding into each other and street furniture.
4x4 police car couldn't get up the hill with all its four wheels spinning.
I was flagged down a few years ago at a set of traffic lights by a copper who caught me up.on red, trying to accuse me of driving too fast in the snow.
Told him it was a good job I'd stopped as looking at his All Season specials and speed he was doing when I overtook him, that if I'd have 'taken off', he'd have no chance of keeping up with me.
I ended up giving him a lecture on safe Winter driving at speeds I consider safe and within the limits of the signs. In other words 'fuck off'.
We both ended up at the set of lights, as they changed I took off leaving him struggling to hill start.
Snowwy weather - great times to commit crime as police can't chase."
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"Feels like it..
Roll on the next deluge of snow that Snow-Clowns with wrong tyres and can't drive in icy weather block roads.
Such fun.."
Hope you weren’t driving today with the wrong tyres on as it was 13 degrees. I’m guessing you changed them back over as you’re not a clown. |
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"Feels like it..
Roll on the next deluge of snow that Snow-Clowns with wrong tyres and can't drive in icy weather block roads.
Such fun..
Hope you weren’t driving today with the wrong tyres on as it was 13 degrees. I’m guessing you changed them back over as you’re not a clown. "
No there fine up to +15 but was only +2 this morning on the drive to work at 6:30 and the temp is falling of now to drive home in the rain so nor to warm yet. There winters not snow tyres. |
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"Has anyone tried snow socks on their car? I hear they are better than snow chains "
Snow socks are OK but easy to trash.
Chains are only any good in deep snow or you will wair the chairs and you tyres.
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"What really cracks me up, paramedic quick response cars get Winter Tyres fitted - police don't spend the money.
Did you see the video on The Sun the other day where Snow-Clowns in cars and buses were sliding into each other and street furniture.
4x4 police car couldn't get up the hill with all its four wheels spinning.
I was flagged down a few years ago at a set of traffic lights by a copper who caught me up.on red, trying to accuse me of driving too fast in the snow.
Told him it was a good job I'd stopped as looking at his All Season specials and speed he was doing when I overtook him, that if I'd have 'taken off', he'd have no chance of keeping up with me.
I ended up giving him a lecture on safe Winter driving at speeds I consider safe and within the limits of the signs. In other words 'fuck off'.
We both ended up at the set of lights, as they changed I took off leaving him struggling to hill start.
Snowwy weather - great times to commit crime as police can't chase."
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"What really cracks me up, paramedic quick response cars get Winter Tyres fitted - police don't spend the money.
Did you see the video on The Sun the other day where Snow-Clowns in cars and buses were sliding into each other and street furniture.
4x4 police car couldn't get up the hill with all its four wheels spinning.
I was flagged down a few years ago at a set of traffic lights by a copper who caught me up.on red, trying to accuse me of driving too fast in the snow.
Told him it was a good job I'd stopped as looking at his All Season specials and speed he was doing when I overtook him, that if I'd have 'taken off', he'd have no chance of keeping up with me.
I ended up giving him a lecture on safe Winter driving at speeds I consider safe and within the limits of the signs. In other words 'fuck off'.
We both ended up at the set of lights, as they changed I took off leaving him struggling to hill start.
Snowwy weather - great times to commit crime as police can't chase."
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By *rFunBoy OP Man
over a year ago
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Seems - Snow Clowns are a problem..
Direct Line has seen its shares fall by a quarter after it scrapped its final dividend, blaming a flood of claims related to bad weather in the UK last month.
https://news.sky.com/story/major-shock-to-the-market-as-insurer-direct-line-scraps-dividend-following-flood-of-claims-12784120
Maybe higher premiums for summer tyre chances or refusal to pay out if an accident happens attributed to lack of traction.
That way, people won't get upset at being forced to for them - just don't expect insurance in Icy weather. |
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"Has anyone tried snow socks on their car? I hear they are better than snow chains "
Used chains regularly before converting to tyres.
Yes, deeper 1" snow is needed, used to fit and wait for more snow to fall before carrying on and use outside lane of motorway to drive on virgin snow.
TBH - never needed them at all since using Winter Rubber. That's on 2x Mondeo's, NOTE, and an XTRAIL, although still carry in the boot in case.
As for Lancs and GMP police, they don't change tyres, yet Paramedic response cars do - which I find bizarre and overtaken many police cars struggling in snow.
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