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Do you believe in karma
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Not in the divine justice system sense of the word, no I don't. It simply doesn't make sense.
In the sense that doing good stuff has a positive effect on *self* and bad stuff a negative effect then, yes. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I know someone who is an all round bad guy and I can remember people saying..
"Karma will catch up with him"
"He won't have no luck for doing things like that"
But life is very good to him.
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There are lots of laws around d karma, 12 I think. For me the most important ones are about responsibility and humility. Both make for auch nicer person which in return creates good energy with greater effects. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No, though I do think sometimes when you fuck around you find out.
I don't believe in some huge cosmic balance, just that actions have natural consequences."
Perfectly put  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I know someone who is an all round bad guy and I can remember people saying..
"Karma will catch up with him"
"He won't have no luck for doing things like that"
But life is very good to him.
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I practice white witchcraft and I'm a spiritualist. I very much believe in karma, however karma doesn't work in the way people believe it does, so yes your friend might not be getting what you believe is justice.
I know exactly what you mean though. People say all the time that crime doesn't pay, but very often it does, and it pays more than a clean living. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I know someone who is an all round bad guy and I can remember people saying..
"Karma will catch up with him"
"He won't have no luck for doing things like that"
But life is very good to him.
I practice white witchcraft and I'm a spiritualist. I very much believe in karma, however karma doesn't work in the way people believe it does, so yes your friend might not be getting what you believe is justice.
I know exactly what you mean though. People say all the time that crime doesn't pay, but very often it does, and it pays more than a clean living."
Yes it certainly do |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I don’t believe in reincarnation no. But I believe if you are kind, generous treat people well and a good friend it pays dividends and if you do the opposite you end up sad and lonely. But that’s not Karma  |
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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago
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There isn't any doubt about it .. it's a balance within the earth .. people associate it with religion but it's nothing to do with that .. it's the balance of good and bad that has to be respected.. it WILL always catch you when you least expect it in the last possible way you could imagine |
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"I know someone who is an all round bad guy and I can remember people saying..
"Karma will catch up with him"
"He won't have no luck for doing things like that"
But life is very good to him.
I practice white witchcraft and I'm a spiritualist. I very much believe in karma, however karma doesn't work in the way people believe it does, so yes your friend might not be getting what you believe is justice.
I know exactly what you mean though. People say all the time that crime doesn't pay, but very often it does, and it pays more than a clean living."
Very much so! It’s unfortunate that we know a couple of people who fall in shit and end up smelling of roses too  *when they’re not good people!
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner.. |
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"What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner.."
That would mean we have no free will wouldn't it?
We tend to only see omens after the event which suggests to me that there's a huge element of seeing what you want to believe |
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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"What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner..
That would mean we have no free will wouldn't it?
We tend to only see omens after the event which suggests to me that there's a huge element of seeing what you want to believe "
It would be interesting to hear Derren Brown's view on how much free will we really have  |
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"What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner..
That would mean we have no free will wouldn't it?
We tend to only see omens after the event which suggests to me that there's a huge element of seeing what you want to believe
It would be interesting to hear Derren Brown's view on how much free will we really have "
Is he a believer in fate? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sort of yes. But can get in a bit of a twist over it as if you wish bad karma on someone then that is bad karma for you. So I just tend to let the universe get on with it and have a smirk to myself and a little 'oh dear how awful' when I hear of bad karma upon a mortal enemy (of which I have none, you listening karma) |
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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago
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"What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner..
That would mean we have no free will wouldn't it?
We tend to only see omens after the event which suggests to me that there's a huge element of seeing what you want to believe
It would be interesting to hear Derren Brown's view on how much free will we really have
Is he a believer in fate? "
No idea.. irrelevant though as my Darren Brown statement was about his opinion on free will..
A quick glance asking " do we we really have free will" seems to come down on the side of "No",..
which actually is what you intimated in your first post..
Quite a lot of philosophical debates on the subject.. |
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"What about fate/ omens..
Say if you apply for a job you really like but don't get it....it could be fate saying you weren't meant to get it...as at the the next job you do get you meet you future partner..
That would mean we have no free will wouldn't it?
We tend to only see omens after the event which suggests to me that there's a huge element of seeing what you want to believe
It would be interesting to hear Derren Brown's view on how much free will we really have
Is he a believer in fate?
No idea.. irrelevant though as my Darren Brown statement was about his opinion on free will..
A quick glance asking " do we we really have free will" seems to come down on the side of "No",..
which actually is what you intimated in your first post..
Quite a lot of philosophical debates on the subject.."
That wasn't my intention at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Tbh anyone that has been unkind or unfair etc to me l just let them off and have absolutely nothing to do with them , whatever happens to them in their life after that has nothing whatsoever to do with me , l just don't bother with them and have nothing to do with them anymore. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe slightly in what goes around comes around. And very much in you get what you deserve. But ‘karma’ is a bit simplistic. Schadenfreude is great tho |
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I believe in karma, in that if you wrong someome, it will come back on you. It may take a long time, but it will definitely come back on you, though you may not even realise it.
I also believe in fate, in that you're fated in life to have or have not. If you don't get something you want, it's probably for a very good reason, and something better will be around the corner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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100% believe in good and bad Karma!
I’ve seen people get served bad karma on many occasions.
I believe that if you do good things for people and remember to pay it forward, then good things come back around, which has happened in my life often.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just found this amusing .. slightly linked to karma
Religious Truth
Taoism: Shit Happens.
Buddhism: If shit happens, it really isn't shit.
Hinduism: This shit has happened before. Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah.
Catholicism: Shit happens because you deserve it.
Protestantism: Work harder, or shit will happen. Materialist: Whoever dies with the most shit, wins! Atheist: I can't believe this shit.
Militant Agnostic: I don't know shit & neither do you!
Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us? Eco-Spiritual: Compost Happens. It's all good shit.
Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit! |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? "
who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
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By (user no longer on site)
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Everything happens for a reason .. people really can't accept that especially if a bad thing happens to them
Out of bad comes good ..
One can't exist without the other
Foreverance this too shall pass .. nothing lasts forever
Negatives are the feeding source of good seeds .. take the lotus flower a symbol of compassion in Buddism
The metaphor being out of the detritus at the bottom of a lake does the lotus flower grow from
In Buddism this symbolises compassion that your enemy now could have been your mother in a past life or your mother now could have been your enemy..
Karma and karmic debt for me are very real .. |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing?
We don’t. It’s impossible. "
That's my point really. Surely the universal power (whatever that may be) can't dish out karmic retribution individually.
Was everyone swept away in the boxing day tsunami on the naughty list. |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing?
We don’t. It’s impossible.
That's my point really. Surely the universal power (whatever that may be) can't dish out karmic retribution individually.
Was everyone swept away in the boxing day tsunami on the naughty list."
Exactly. For me it’s up there with star signs and ghosts etc. Tosh x |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live "
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing?
We don’t. It’s impossible.
That's my point really. Surely the universal power (whatever that may be) can't dish out karmic retribution individually.
Was everyone swept away in the boxing day tsunami on the naughty list.
Exactly. For me it’s up there with star signs and ghosts etc. Tosh x"
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness "
I must admit I find it hard to take people seriously who believe in this kind of thing. Can’t believe so many do to be honest. Something happens that would have happened anyway and people say “ahhhh that’s karma”.
What?! |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness
I must admit I find it hard to take people seriously who believe in this kind of thing. Can’t believe so many do to be honest. Something happens that would have happened anyway and people say “ahhhh that’s karma”.
What?! "
I think being alive teaches us lessons. You do something nice and you get a good feeling from it, you do something bad and (most people) get a bad feeling, you repeat the nice actions but not the bad ones (eventually).
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness "
also true |
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By (user no longer on site)
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No.
It's just fatalism with another name. Happenstance yes. Your actions determine your future. Not some mystic mumbi jumbo.
And no such thing as god whilst I'm on a roll. |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness also true "
I think like most religious beliefs you need a certain ability to apply when it suits and ignore when it doesn't |
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"How do we differentiate between a bad thing that is deserved due to karma and one that is just a bad thing? who decides whats good or bad diferent places and people have diffent values this country reminds me of the crusades somedays telling everyone in the world how they should live
I'm thinking of the commonly held belief that karma means bad things happen to bad people. This is so clearly demonstrably not true that I wonder how things like natural disasters are explained and children with life limiting illness also true
I think like most religious beliefs you need a certain ability to apply when it suits and ignore when it doesn't "
thats every one of em then |
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