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over a year ago
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Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment "
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Honestly.
All the while Ofcom allow these companies to screw us over then they will have a legitimate excuse to keep price increase...however with the phasing out of fossil fuels to more renewable sources they are going to struggle to justify the price...fingers crossed a stronger government will step up and get a grip of what really matters to the public, but I fesr it won't be this decade |
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Yes they will eventually once energy becomes cheaper again…. Then competition starts again…. Will prices go back to what they were then probably not but the pressure will ease |
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over a year ago
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"Electric
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Petrol at my local Tesco is down from 169p/l to 159p/l in recent weeks. I noticed immediately on the gauge that it had made a decent difference. £25 filled the tank a lot more than it did weeks ago.
I've noticed that what they've been saying about E10 seems to be accurate in my own experiences, as the same journeys seem to use up far more petrol than they used to.
I could get to Middlesbrough and back without the pointer moving more than a tiny bit, but since they messed with E10 it goes down about an eighth of a tank for a round trip to Boro. |
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They will but very slowly and grudgingly. We've shown that we're able to pay for the various things, at the sacrifice of all non-essential and our savings. They don't care that it cripples us, only that they can extract the absolute maximum. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie "
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me  |
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They will probably increase but like any economic cycle will eventually stabilise and competition will hopefully push some down again though that could take a while. Wecjave been lucky to be able to enjoy lots of good bargains in this country for many years and hopefully we will again. In the meantime I am genuinely sad at how some people have to struggle to make ends meet and resort to food banks etc. Even those who had a comfortable lifestyle are struggling and cutting down. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre.."
1.40 it was 1.25 before this insanity
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Honestly.
All the while Ofcom allow these companies to screw us over then they will have a legitimate excuse to keep price increase...however with the phasing out of fossil fuels to more renewable sources they are going to struggle to justify the price...fingers crossed a stronger government will step up and get a grip of what really matters to the public, but I fesr it won't be this decade"
Do you mean Ofgem? Ofcom would be for broadcasters and telecoms.
Ofgem were pretty useless when I sent them a complaint, so was Ombudsman Services (Energy), though I did get £50 for E.On Next giving us bad info.
I hate this government, but in this instance they've done more for us in terms of energy than Ofgem and OS(E), the ones who are supposed to regulate all of this. In fact it was Ofgem who changed to rules to let them increase the prices every three months rather than six. Whilst that means they could come down earlier, the changed the rule at a time that it was obvious that they were only going to go up for the foreseeable future. |
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Gas
Food
Fuel
Petrol at my local Tesco is down from 169p/l to 159p/l in recent weeks. I noticed immediately on the gauge that it had made a decent difference. £25 filled the tank a lot more than it did weeks ago.
I've noticed that what they've been saying about E10 seems to be accurate in my own experiences, as the same journeys seem to use up far more petrol than they used to.
I could get to Middlesbrough and back without the pointer moving more than a tiny bit, but since they messed with E10 it goes down about an eighth of a tank for a round trip to Boro."
I am not really good with that kind of stuff but I with you on this. It definitely seems to use more for the same journey and of course its also more expensive so it's a double whammy |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie "
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly |
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre..1.40 it was 1.25 before this insanity
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I remember when it was 102p/l in like 2007/8 and diesel was less than a quid per litre. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly "
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately. |
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre..1.40 it was 1.25 before this insanity
I remember when it was 102p/l in like 2007/8 and diesel was less than a quid per litre."
on the a68 at the border there is an old abandoned station
.. 92p/litre |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately."
If it does I will def not be able pay that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre..1.40 it was 1.25 before this insanity
I remember when it was 102p/l in like 2007/8 and diesel was less than a quid per litre.
on the a68 at the border there is an old abandoned station
.. 92p/litre"
Very surprised it's not been turned into a car wash. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre..1.40 it was 1.25 before this insanity
I remember when it was 102p/l in like 2007/8 and diesel was less than a quid per litre.
on the a68 at the border there is an old abandoned station
.. 92p/litre
Very surprised it's not been turned into a car wash."
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately.
If it does I will def not be able pay that "
They're saying it might go up until 2024. Help ends for the vast majority in April.
I think a breaking point will come for a lot of people. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately.
If it does I will def not be able pay that "
Not many people would be able to. The problem is that the cap is not really a cap on what you pay, its just an average and therefore some people whose homes are not well insulated or need to keep heating on because of medical issues or work from home or are elderly etc will pay more. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately.
If it does I will def not be able pay that
They're saying it might go up until 2024. Help ends for the vast majority in April.
I think a breaking point will come for a lot of people."
Lots of people I’ve spoken too already at the limit so any more increases will hit very hard |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Our monthly payments already more than doubled and they are asking for another 25% beyond a joke honestly
It could up to double again in April, unfortunately.
If it does I will def not be able pay that
Not many people would be able to. The problem is that the cap is not really a cap on what you pay, its just an average and therefore some people whose homes are not well insulated or need to keep heating on because of medical issues or work from home or are elderly etc will pay more. "
Yes. The only reason my bills haven't risen is because I've cut my usage to the bone. |
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"At some point we will be hearing of people dying of the cold in their homes "
I was about to say that the physical and mental impact this will have on people is enormous. Straight after covid thrown into this economic abyss |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Food too cheap still farmers really struggling, supermarkets whack up their prices but don't pass them down the chain. Eggs are just the tip of the iceberg in shortages. Egg supplies down to higher production costs not bird flu ime in business to make money have no moral obligation to produce at a loss |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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No. What will happen instead is we will use far less in the future until wages rise to the point it feels cheap again. It’s already beginning to happen there is a big shift to heating the person not the space and to heating only the spaces being used. Also people are learning to cook |
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Did anyone else see a few months back that BP were blatantly open about their 7billion pound profit.
If they even halved that profit margin, that would still be quite an achievement and cut out fuel bills. If the gas and electric suppliers did the same then surely the cost of living rip off (it’s not a crisis it’s a rip off piss take and we the “great British public” stand for it) would ease a bit.
Let me tell you a quick story. I was posted in Portugal for a bit in the mid 90’s. There’s a bridge called Pont d’ April which connects Lisbon to Costa De Capirica. The government wanted to increase the toll from one Escudo to two. The people were having none of it and blocked the bridge in protest. I watched in fascination and some Portuguese lads said that the special police would get involved and the people would be sorry. The SP did come but the people stood too and the government not only backed down but also made the bridge free for the remaining summer as an apology to the people. The moral of the story is - why the fuck don’t we stand up and fight for a change instead of moaning it’s a crisis and getting by. Heat or eat? Old folk not knowing if they are going to survive the winter….for fucks sake think about it!! |
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Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it"
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me "
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases |
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We talking price or affordability?
One invariable fact of growing up is prices change. I remember my stepdad scoffing at not pay 99.9p per litre of diesel as it was a ripoff.
When I started work full time in 2002 the national minimum wage the rate was something like £4.50, now it’s over double that.
When I learnt to drive in 2004 it was £4.70 and fuel was something like 77.9p for unleaded.
In 2022 unleaded fuel is (roughly) 160.9p per litre. Minimum wage is £9.50. Both have just over doubled. Petrol prices are just as affordable.
So will things get cheaper?? As long as we, the people, keep getting increased rates of pay then no.
Will things get more affordable? Yes. As fuel (gas / petroleum products / electric) becomes more available their price might stabilise.
That’s how a growth economy works.
I honestly would be more worried if all those prices crashed rapidly, as somewhere down the line it means the high wages can no longer be afforded, so pay cuts or layoffs would be on the cards.
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases"
I have no idea when it was installed, it just was. He won't have understood at the time, I imagine and no matter how much you ask for organisations to liaise with family members, they don't. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me "
This is what worries Me Too! I believe more people are going to die out of fear than necessity. |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it"
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases
I have no idea when it was installed, it just was. He won't have understood at the time, I imagine and no matter how much you ask for organisations to liaise with family members, they don't. "
The trouble is that although I tell my dad frequently that he's got £67 a month coming in from the govt and another £600 in total winter fuel payment he *still* worries about the cost of heating. We have access to his on line fuel account and keep an eye on the cost and submit his meter readings but we don't tell him how much he's using as long as his account stays in credit.
Not to put too fine a point on it. He's nearly 96, saving money on heating is a pointless exercise |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring."
You do make me smile |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases
I have no idea when it was installed, it just was. He won't have understood at the time, I imagine and no matter how much you ask for organisations to liaise with family members, they don't.
The trouble is that although I tell my dad frequently that he's got £67 a month coming in from the govt and another £600 in total winter fuel payment he *still* worries about the cost of heating. We have access to his on line fuel account and keep an eye on the cost and submit his meter readings but we don't tell him how much he's using as long as his account stays in credit.
Not to put too fine a point on it. He's nearly 96, saving money on heating is a pointless exercise "
My Dad has been convinced that the higher bills are representative of a problem with his heating system and will ring heating repairers to come out etc. I can't stop him doing that |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring.
You do make me smile "
Ta. It is nice to think about a world where business can get done without selfish worthless cunts exploiting people and sponging off the state (because their employees need to rely on welfare to survive).
Unfortunately our government supports these selfish worthless cunts - they're probably brethren and get kickbacks from them. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases
I have no idea when it was installed, it just was. He won't have understood at the time, I imagine and no matter how much you ask for organisations to liaise with family members, they don't.
The trouble is that although I tell my dad frequently that he's got £67 a month coming in from the govt and another £600 in total winter fuel payment he *still* worries about the cost of heating. We have access to his on line fuel account and keep an eye on the cost and submit his meter readings but we don't tell him how much he's using as long as his account stays in credit.
Not to put too fine a point on it. He's nearly 96, saving money on heating is a pointless exercise
My Dad has been convinced that the higher bills are representative of a problem with his heating system and will ring heating repairers to come out etc. I can't stop him doing that "
Bloody hell!
Oddly my dad's heating keeps kicking out. The last repairer showed him how to get it started again, this involves him getting on the floor and reaching under the gas fire. I would like to be there next time a repair man calls and ask what the f*****g, b*****y, b******s he thinks he's f**"*g doing not repairing it and leaving a 95 year old to crawl all over the b******ing floor. I'm slightly miffed about it... |
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"Electric
Gas
Food
Fuel "
I’m no economist but generally whenever the price of things go up…they generally don’t ever come down. They aren’t affected by the laws of gravity.
I also believe as profits aren’t affected it means there’s no incentive to drop prices. |
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"Had this exact same conversation couple of days ago. They may come down little bit but not back to where they were. Don’t know about others but we’ve not been putting heating on much as our smart meter scares us at the moment
Our smart meter is like a horror movie
Smart meters are dangerous in some ways. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
We have advised my dad against having one installed because we know he'd turn his heating off. He's already lighting fires (at 95 years of age) and carrying coal through the house.
The anxiety smart meters cause possibly outweighs the benefits in some cases
I have no idea when it was installed, it just was. He won't have understood at the time, I imagine and no matter how much you ask for organisations to liaise with family members, they don't.
The trouble is that although I tell my dad frequently that he's got £67 a month coming in from the govt and another £600 in total winter fuel payment he *still* worries about the cost of heating. We have access to his on line fuel account and keep an eye on the cost and submit his meter readings but we don't tell him how much he's using as long as his account stays in credit.
Not to put too fine a point on it. He's nearly 96, saving money on heating is a pointless exercise
My Dad has been convinced that the higher bills are representative of a problem with his heating system and will ring heating repairers to come out etc. I can't stop him doing that
Bloody hell!
Oddly my dad's heating keeps kicking out. The last repairer showed him how to get it started again, this involves him getting on the floor and reaching under the gas fire. I would like to be there next time a repair man calls and ask what the f*****g, b*****y, b******s he thinks he's f**"*g doing not repairing it and leaving a 95 year old to crawl all over the b******ing floor. I'm slightly miffed about it..."
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring.
You do make me smile
Ta. It is nice to think about a world where business can get done without selfish worthless cunts exploiting people and sponging off the state (because their employees need to rely on welfare to survive).
Unfortunately our government supports these selfish worthless cunts - they're probably brethren and get kickbacks from them."
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring.
You do make me smile
Ta. It is nice to think about a world where business can get done without selfish worthless cunts exploiting people and sponging off the state (because their employees need to rely on welfare to survive).
Unfortunately our government supports these selfish worthless cunts - they're probably brethren and get kickbacks from them.
No you make me smile "
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I think a lot will depend on our energy policy going forward. However as long as we can get back to a peace time level of security and stability I have no doubt Capitalism will do what it does best and find a way of mass producing stuff as cheaply as possible. And this drive will innovate ways to either bring down energy cost or use. Then we can all go back to a life of cheap shit and lots of it while the only people getting it rough deal are hidden in off lands being exploited for this to happen.
So in short I think yes it's actuality quite possible once things clam down. |
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.. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
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I've just realised that with that government grant and my winter fuel payment taken into account, the less I actually heat the house the more I get to keep.
What's not to like about that? |
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.. My Dad doesn't understand that the unit price for energy has massively increased since last winter. He's comparing his daily usage with bills from last year and worrying about the cost. He might therefore not use his heating, yet he has also received the Govt payment and therefore can afford it (just about). It worries me
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I've just realised that with that government grant and my winter fuel payment taken into account, the less I actually heat the house the more I get to keep.
What's not to like about that?"
Being cold when you could be warm? |
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I've just realised that with that government grant and my winter fuel payment taken into account, the less I actually heat the house the more I get to keep.
What's not to like about that?
Being cold when you could be warm?"
Not a problem. I wear a fibre pile top and warm joggers. Every so often I send a short blast from a hair dryer on the low setting (max 20 seconds) down my neck or into my loins.
Ingenuity made the British survivors.
Don't underestimate the psychological benefit to your health of knowing that you are beating the bastards! |
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I've just realised that with that government grant and my winter fuel payment taken into account, the less I actually heat the house the more I get to keep.
What's not to like about that?
Being cold when you could be warm?
Not a problem. I wear a fibre pile top and warm joggers. Every so often I send a short blast from a hair dryer on the low setting (max 20 seconds) down my neck or into my loins.
Ingenuity made the British survivors.
Don't underestimate the psychological benefit to your health of knowing that you are beating the bastards!"
If that's winning I'd sooner lose thanks  |
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"Electric
Gas
Food
Fuel
I’m no economist but generally whenever the price of things go up…they generally don’t ever come down. They aren’t affected by the laws of gravity.
I also believe as profits aren’t affected it means there’s no incentive to drop prices. "
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Not a chance.
It's not in the government interest. Inflation helps fills the treasury coffers. It can't make enough money from upping taxes alone to pay off government debts.
British governments don't do long term planning either so schemes and infrastructure that could help pay back debt take to long or require vision and investment to get it done and they prefer it to be funded privately. |
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"Not a chance.
It's not in the government interest. Inflation helps fills the treasury coffers. It can't make enough money from upping taxes alone to pay off government debts.
British governments don't do long term planning either so schemes and infrastructure that could help pay back debt take to long or require vision and investment to get it done and they prefer it to be funded privately. "
The problem with politics is that it's by nature short term. PMs and cabinets can disappear literally overnight. Even long term plans can be ripped up by the next incumbent PM or next party in charge. This is why having really key things like health and education linked to politics is stupid. These are key to people's lives and shouldn't be political footballs. |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring."
Explain to me how that’s encouraging poverty an increase in min wage = an increase in the costs of everything else therefore you do no see an increase how much money you have if everything cost more to buy |
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"Nope, and this constant obsession with raising the minimum wage helps nobody, if minimum wage was half what it is now good would cost half what they do, if min wage went up to £20 every thing double, the only people to benefit from a higher wage are the ones that get the taxes from it
So you think that in some jobs, people who work full time deserve to live in poverty?
I'd rather cap executive pay at 500% of what the least paid person makes. Can't afford to pay your people a fifth of what you think you deserve to run a business? You can't afford to run a business. Fuck off and get a real job - I hear Tesco are hiring.
Explain to me how that’s encouraging poverty an increase in min wage = an increase in the costs of everything else therefore you do no see an increase how much money you have if everything cost more to buy "
Exactly, and small businesses are struggling enough as it is without further increased costs....Raise of minimum wage could push people into unemployment if they can't afford to pay staff.
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"no
its if they stabilize its a pause not reset...
fuel has come down a bit bit it won't go back to 1.40 a litre.."
I got some at 149.7 yesterday.
If Sterling strengthens a little against the Dollar the price will come down a little |
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No. And most of the shareholders who make money on dividends absolutely do not want to see prices come down because it'll harm their dividends. CEO's considering price reductions are going to be looking for new jobs if they take that angle.
There is plenty more squeezing to be done, unfortunately (or fortunately if you are a shareholder). |
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I agree. I have a business and I’m looking at spring, I can’t afford to increase salaries, everyone is asking and I can’t. All my suppliers have increased their pricing. I have always paid above minimal wage by the way. I think it’s a recession already, I really don’t know if I’ll still be trading in a few months. It’s a really tough time. I did hear from an importer that costs for importing with containers of goods is sharply dropping so that’s a good thing. Cheaper costs for importing will help bring prices down for everyone. But that’s only one part of the problem. I think next year some. Things will be cheaper. Jumpers it is!! |
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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago
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The biggest problem with goods . Most are now produced in China or have most components manufactured there. Hence costs going up . Food is nearly same. Increase in transport fuel costs . Increases prices to UK |
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"No and if this brexit nonsense continues and food shortages start having more of an impact prices will continue to rise. Noticed that more and more items are often sold out these days?"
We’ve made ourselves difficult (and therefore expensive) to trade with and simultaneously buggered our economy so the exchange rate has tanked.
I guess we just need to adjust to a lower standard of living, like in the 1970s. |
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Nope not a chance
Look in to they profits it’s all bs
They make record brake profits
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-power-rakes-924-million-28114697.amp
And that was before the second price up
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"Last time I looked cars had shot up by thousands! on pounds!
Infact some cost more now than they were making a couple of years ago "
My daughter bought a New Mini Cooper S Hybrid 4wd Countryman a year ago, the supplying dealer has contacted her twice to see if she will sell it back to them for the same price that she paid for it.She has declined their offer. |
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"Last time I looked cars had shot up by thousands! on pounds!
Infact some cost more now than they were making a couple of years ago
My daughter bought a New Mini Cooper S Hybrid 4wd Countryman a year ago, the supplying dealer has contacted her twice to see if she will sell it back to them for the same price that she paid for it.She has declined their offer."
Imagine what they would ask her for a new one ! |
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Annual deflation will never happen. Remember the rate of inflation is month by month increase in cost from the previous year. It does not go backwards. The costs are here to stay |
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If you can weather the storm, inflation is probably the single biggest factor in driving up individual wealth for normal people, because when wages eventually (and inevitably) catch up it has the effect of reducing debt.
Doesn’t make the tough times easier, but it is a glimmer of a silver lining… |
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"Last time I looked cars had shot up by thousands! on pounds!
Infact some cost more now than they were making a couple of years ago
My daughter bought a New Mini Cooper S Hybrid 4wd Countryman a year ago, the supplying dealer has contacted her twice to see if she will sell it back to them for the same price that she paid for it.She has declined their offer.
Imagine what they would ask her for a new one !"
The car I bought last year from a main dealer now books for £5K more than I paid for it, despite now being three years old and having the extra mileage on it. To buy another year old one with low mileage would cost me £10k more than I paid last year. |
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"Last time I looked cars had shot up by thousands! on pounds!
Infact some cost more now than they were making a couple of years ago
My daughter bought a New Mini Cooper S Hybrid 4wd Countryman a year ago, the supplying dealer has contacted her twice to see if she will sell it back to them for the same price that she paid for it.She has declined their offer.
Imagine what they would ask her for a new one !
The car I bought last year from a main dealer now books for £5K more than I paid for it, despite now being three years old and having the extra mileage on it. To buy another year old one with low mileage would cost me £10k more than I paid last year. "
Yeah if new prices stay up and used car prices come down, it's a bad state of affairs |
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like somebody said to me at work the other day to be like this In this day and age Is appalling, lots of Investment aimed at technology which generally speaking Is aimed In the wrong direction and not In the areas ( that really matter ) |
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