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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Reports that the Prisons are full after a surge in jailings in the last two months. Something like 800 over capacity. Now they will be using police cells to manage the surge. No doubt the Chief of Police will tell his men not to arrest anyone because the cells are full. What's going on here guys ? |
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By *eff4000Man
over a year ago
Camberley |
Add it to the list of 12 years of Tory mismanagement.
Easiest way to clear some room would be to legalise cannabis and release anyone in arrested on possession - not that labour would do anything like this either to be fair. Don't want to scare off the OAPs |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Add it to the list of 12 years of Tory mismanagement.
Easiest way to clear some room would be to legalise cannabis and release anyone in arrested on possession - not that labour would do anything like this either to be fair. Don't want to scare off the OAPs"
I doubt there's a huge prison population in there for possession, given most are given warnings for small amounts that are confiscated, and eventually fines, community service orders or at worst a suspended sentence.
Dealers? Yes.
But the bulk of those inside for drugs offences have nothing to do with .
Overpopulation is a combination of lack of investment, privatisation of services and failure to deport overseas offenders so that spaces are free up and the cost of keeping them in prison is passed to home nations.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In 2022 there were 1,336 Albanians imprisoned in England and Wales, the highest foreign nationality in that year. Additionally, there were 830 Polish nationals in jail, and 752 Romanians, the second, and third-highest among foreign nationalities.
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There were approximately 76, 226 males and almost 3,216 females in prisons in England and Wales in 2022.
Call that 80,000 prisoners. 800 would be 1%. But the top three foreign countries account for about 3000, just under 4%
Having all the figures wold be better, but it looks up me like there’s an argument regarding how much foreign prisoners are a problem.
Obviously the biggest problem is Men..
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"In 2022 there were 1,336 Albanians imprisoned in England and Wales, the highest foreign nationality in that year. Additionally, there were 830 Polish nationals in jail, and 752 Romanians, the second, and third-highest among foreign nationalities.
Cut and paste, couldn’t find an actual total or get more from that source without paying.
There were approximately 76, 226 males and almost 3,216 females in prisons in England and Wales in 2022.
Call that 80,000 prisoners. 800 would be 1%. But the top three foreign countries account for about 3000, just under 4%
Having all the figures wold be better, but it looks up me like there’s an argument regarding how much foreign prisoners are a problem.
Obviously the biggest problem is Men..
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Shall we send Men to Australia?! |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"In 2022 there were 1,336 Albanians imprisoned in England and Wales, the highest foreign nationality in that year. Additionally, there were 830 Polish nationals in jail, and 752 Romanians, the second, and third-highest among foreign nationalities.
Cut and paste, couldn’t find an actual total or get more from that source without paying.
There were approximately 76, 226 males and almost 3,216 females in prisons in England and Wales in 2022.
Call that 80,000 prisoners. 800 would be 1%. But the top three foreign countries account for about 3000, just under 4%
Having all the figures wold be better, but it looks up me like there’s an argument regarding how much foreign prisoners are a problem.
Obviously the biggest problem is Men..
Shall we send Men to Australia?! "
Ooh. Pick me, pick me!!
Much warmer over there at the mo.
I'll shoplift some haribos if necessary..... 
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Apparently the government are planning to set up an adopt a prisoner scheme so to free up space in prisons ..each household will be asked to adopt one prisoner... apparently it's due to have a trial run in Colchester early next year.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Apparently the government are planning to set up an adopt a prisoner scheme so to free up space in prisons ..each household will be asked to adopt one prisoner... apparently it's due to have a trial run in Colchester early next year.."
Good grande chucking, but surely as made up as the man eating crocodiles in my local panda car... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Too many are in for short sentences where alternative justice could be used and not enough repeat offenders in for long stretches. When you dig into offending stats it's extraordinary how many offences are committed by a small number of serial criminals, mostly men 16-30. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Drugs its that simple if you legalise some and make prescription then you will take a big dent out of crime reducing 1st what is a crime and 2 the need to burgle to make money to buy them and by default the underground economy and make it taxable but you know optics and all that  |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Drugs its that simple if you legalise some and make prescription then you will take a big dent out of crime reducing 1st what is a crime and 2 the need to burgle to make money to buy them and by default the underground economy and make it taxable but you know optics and all that "
Except that wouldn't necessarily work.
Do you expect those currently making huge sums to just give up their source of income and let the state take over?
Or would they most likely continue, seek new markets and push drugs into sections of the community they previously deemed too much hard work?
Criminals don't just give up and go straight when their livlihood disappears. The underground economy would continue just as it does now with bootleg booze and cigarettes.
And do you want drugs to be perceived as more socially acceptable (as alcohol already is) and for the young to be given even easier access than they do now? There's enough mental health issues already without adding more.
And just because something is legal it still needs paying for. For prescriptions that means tax money. For private sales if legalised that means personal cash. And those currently stealing to fund habits will still do what they do now to find the money.
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"Ship them to Australia "
Fuck that, leave them here and ship me to Australia.
Nice first class plane ticket and a gaff by the beach will be lovely- i'll even do some volunteer work for Sydney Uni  |
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Do what they do in the Asian countries, just thrown them all in together, so what if there’s 14 living in a 2 man cell, maybe if it wasn’t youth club for adults the reoffending numbers may go down.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What’s going on is that people are being caught committing crimes.
Round of applause all around and great crocodile sadness that these poor individuals should be so badly inconvenienced. |
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