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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " They don't need men theirs enough of them available so if you come and can get in they charge double to try and out the not so desirables but it doesn't work so they do that on the door, it's not fair but they can do it so they do  | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " It's acceptable because it's the law, private members club. No it's no sue-able. Winston | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee "Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job ……. | |||
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"Supply and demand." Exactly this. | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " What about couples prices and you sure it’s not special event prices above? | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job ……."That's debatable. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable. "Not really . Certainly not in the U.K. . | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. ."I beg to differ. | |||
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"More women will draw in more men and couples. More single men than single women and couples will push people away (in the main). Ever seen the “chain gangs” at clubs that don’t operate this rule? Lines of men following women and couples around, not a very “relaxed” environment " I have seen this a few times in clubs over the years .. usually those clubs dont last long or end up having to use party girls paid to bring in revenue . | |||
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"I think men and couples should be the same price. £60 is ridiclious " That pricing seems about right to me. | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie " I was just literally writing very similar comment. | |||
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"Kink events tend not to use gender pricing structures and are held in swinging clubs. You may not get much action, but depends what you are after "Ain’t nobody like a swing party | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job ……."Of course not, we live in a fair and just society, right. Right? Also: In 2022, the gap among full-time employees increased to 8.3%, up from 7.7% in 2021. Among all employees, the gender pay gap decreased to 14.9%, from 15.1% in 2021, but is still below the levels seen in 2019 (17.4%). Source: Office of National Statistics | |||
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"£30 is a high price for women. Probably still go to draw comparisons with NW clubs " I would pay 50/60 pounds for a ticket if the venue was outstanding finish, high quality decor/layout / location ... as many swing clubs just seem like cheap looking tacky venues its not my vibe ... Used to pay way more than that before I transition to attend some more exclusive venues that were limited in number and held in very nice places with strict dress codes ... | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts?" Well, yeah, because it's MEN that are being affected, duh!* (*yes, sarcasm!) | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Of course not, we live in a fair and just society, right. Right?
Also:
In 2022, the gap among full-time employees increased to 8.3%, up from 7.7% in 2021. Among all employees, the gender pay gap decreased to 14.9%, from 15.1% in 2021, but is still below the levels seen in 2019 (17.4%). Source: Office of National Statistics"It always amuse me that equity on swinging club admissio prices is seemingly the only Equality issue that so many men are most passionate about! | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Of course not, we live in a fair and just society, right. Right?
Also:
In 2022, the gap among full-time employees increased to 8.3%, up from 7.7% in 2021. Among all employees, the gender pay gap decreased to 14.9%, from 15.1% in 2021, but is still below the levels seen in 2019 (17.4%). Source: Office of National Statistics
It always amuse me that equity on swinging club admissio prices is seemingly the only Equality issue that so many men are most passionate about!"Oh dont many men rant on forums about what female/trans women porn models get paid vs male models as well   | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie " Must be hellishly expensive in comparison to absolute bargains in false nails and eyelashes! | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts?" £12 for my hair cut | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie Must be hellishly expensive in comparison to absolute bargains in false nails and eyelashes!" Weirdly though, there's no choice to have a womb (practically), but there strangely is one to have false nails, and not all woman do by a long chalk. We could easily be silly and cost up razors for me, but we don't need to shave. Far better to accept that there are aspects on both (all) sides of the fence that are more or less fair to a particular gender, but that overall men get it better, and straight white men play life on the easiest difficulty level. So if a club is more for guys, who suck it up or don't go. Had this exact conversation with my FWB the other day, making a joke about me subsidising her entertainment, and her response was "We are the entertainment", which is so true. | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts? £12 for my hair cut " You're being rob bed, £8 here... | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts? £12 for my hair cut You're being rob bed, £8 here..." In fairness I do actually pay the same as my husband for my haircut. We have a lovely lady that comes to the house and she charges the same price for men and women. That's for a wet cut, If I wanted it blow drying it would cost more. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Of course not, we live in a fair and just society, right. Right?
Also:
In 2022, the gap among full-time employees increased to 8.3%, up from 7.7% in 2021. Among all employees, the gender pay gap decreased to 14.9%, from 15.1% in 2021, but is still below the levels seen in 2019 (17.4%). Source: Office of National Statistics
It always amuse me that equity on swinging club admissio prices is seemingly the only Equality issue that so many men are most passionate about!"Right?  | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts? £12 for my hair cut You're being rob bed, £8 here..." Could start a thread on this. City centre hair and beard is £20 + | |||
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"Is it any worse than women having to pay more than men for haircuts? £12 for my hair cut You're being rob bed, £8 here... Could start a thread on this. City centre hair and beard is £20 + " Out of city centre, from £45. | |||
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"It is a huge difference I don't quite agree, however if I was to attend a club and it was full of single males I wouldn't return so I kinda see why they want to limit it, but they could do that with just select numbers. Mrs " Every club I have ever been to men have heavily out with the number of women. I would not pay £60 to go to a club but lots of men do. The prices if they were made equal would not come down for men they would just go up for women meaning they would less likely go. | |||
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"It’s easily got around if you turn up wearing a wig…" lol and high heels and a lazzy band around your nuts | |||
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"It is a huge difference I don't quite agree, however if I was to attend a club and it was full of single males I wouldn't return so I kinda see why they want to limit it, but they could do that with just select numbers. Mrs Every club I have ever been to men have heavily out with the number of women. I would not pay £60 to go to a club but lots of men do. The prices if they were made equal would not come down for men they would just go up for women meaning they would less likely go. " Yes I see your point, that's why I thought maybe having a select number of men's places per event maybe a better idea than over charging them. Mrs | |||
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"It is a huge difference I don't quite agree, however if I was to attend a club and it was full of single males I wouldn't return so I kinda see why they want to limit it, but they could do that with just select numbers. Mrs Every club I have ever been to men have heavily out with the number of women. I would not pay £60 to go to a club but lots of men do. The prices if they were made equal would not come down for men they would just go up for women meaning they would less likely go. Yes I see your point, that's why I thought maybe having a select number of men's places per event maybe a better idea than over charging them. Mrs " Then how do the clubs make their money? I don't believe men are being overcharged. The price is clear People can choose to pay or not and the point is men choose to pay it. | |||
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"Supply and demand." This basically. Men need to realise that as long as there is a healthy supply and not much demand, this will always happen. Just imagine that men stopped going... Imagine the knock on effect. Imagine going to a greedy girls night and getting in free because the club is desparate to get men to go... Just because it's one sided at the moment doesn't mean it will away ve that way. The rules of supply and demand are flexible. If supply dries up, demand will increase.... | |||
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"Couples also get in cheaper than single men OP; maybe next time you're at a club, paying to get in and there's a single man in the queue, you could split the difference... solidarity and all that. "The irony is the OP is a couple. I noticed the fact couples also get in for a cheaper price than men wasn't mentioned. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. ."I theory the pay gap is supposed to have closed... reality is a lot different | |||
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"Couples also get in cheaper than single men OP; maybe next time you're at a club, paying to get in and there's a single man in the queue, you could split the difference... solidarity and all that.
The irony is the OP is a couple.
I noticed the fact couples also get in for a cheaper price than men wasn't mentioned. "Yes, I'd not missed the irony of this either.... | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie " Buy men's razors. Literally the only difference is the colour. A blade is a blade. | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie Buy men's razors. Literally the only difference is the colour. A blade is a blade." I do this now, they actually contour better too. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job ……."Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up. | |||
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"People have touched on the legal parts. But how many aggreived fellas would be happy turning up to a club and finding it's 90pc blokes? " Loads if they're gay | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. . I theory the pay gap is supposed to have closed... reality is a lot different "Without derailing the thread, but I guess I did bring this up, the reality is that it's closing at younger age groups, so in a few decades as those age groups age, it should filter through. It about 8% overall, but on some age groups it's only 3% (but by that token, over 13% in older ones....). Either way, we can't deny it's real, and that's not me whiteknighting | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. .
I beg to differ. "You can beg all you want , doesn’t make it true . Suggest a job where women get paid less than men for doing the same job ? | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up. "Except I gave actual government statistics from this year and didn't shut up. And I could give examples also. Last time I did a job that also had a woman doing a comparable role, I earned more than she did by around £7000. We were in the same 10 year age bracket too. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. . I theory the pay gap is supposed to have closed... reality is a lot different
Without derailing the thread, but I guess I did bring this up, the reality is that it's closing at younger age groups, so in a few decades as those age groups age, it should filter through. It about 8% overall, but on some age groups it's only 3% (but by that token, over 13% in older ones....). Either way, we can't deny it's real, and that's not me whiteknighting"Earning gap and pay gap are two very different things . A male nurse and a female nurse get paid the same , for the same job , same with train driver , bus driver , warehouse assistant , police constable etc etc . Earnings over a career might differ by a few percent because of career breaks for having children etc . But there is no pay gap . | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up.
Except I gave actual government statistics from this year and didn't shut up. And I could give examples also. Last time I did a job that also had a woman doing a comparable role, I earned more than she did by around £7000. We were in the same 10 year age bracket too."There are lies , damn lies and then there are statistics ……. Whitenight away , might even get you laid ! | |||
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" I beg to differ. You can beg all you want , doesn’t make it true . Suggest a job where women get paid less than men for doing the same job ? " Of course they can't. It's just lies and self victimisation. | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie Buy men's razors. Literally the only difference is the colour. A blade is a blade. I do this now, they actually contour better too. "Same | |||
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"I can't believe the narrow minded people on here, that claim equality is an important aspiration, then go on to defend sexist standards. I doesn't bother me personally but I hate to see the injustice for anyone, and that men are just supposed to suffer quietly." There's a great carton that I can't really show or link too, but it's entitles Equity versus Equality. It's 3 people trying to watch a baseball game over a fence. The three people are different heights, one really short, one really tall etc. Equality was giving everyone a box to stand on meaning the small guy still couldn't see over, but the tall guy who could anyway just got to see even better. Equity was giving the tall mans box to the smaller guy, so all three could see over. Hard to describe in words, but equality isn't always treating everyone exactly the same. I don't want a knee replacement just because my nanna had one and I'm jealous. Equality - everyone gets the box Equity - The boxes are shared out fairly http://i2.wp.com/interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png?zoom=2&resize=730%2C547 | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up.
Except I gave actual government statistics from this year and didn't shut up. And I could give examples also. Last time I did a job that also had a woman doing a comparable role, I earned more than she did by around £7000. We were in the same 10 year age bracket too.
There are lies , damn lies and then there are statistics …….
Whitenight away , might even get you laid ! "If arguing facts against opinions got me laid, I'd be sick of getting laid  | |||
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" Earning gap and pay gap are two very different things . A male nurse and a female nurse get paid the same , for the same job , same with train driver , bus driver , warehouse assistant , police constable etc etc . Earnings over a career might differ by a few percent because of career breaks for having children etc . But there is no pay gap ." Exactly this. Men, on average, work for longer and in more difficult/dangerous jobs. This equals slightly different lifetime earnings.... That doesn't mean women get paid less for same work and hours. Can we bury this red herring and move on now.? | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. . I theory the pay gap is supposed to have closed... reality is a lot different
Without derailing the thread, but I guess I did bring this up, the reality is that it's closing at younger age groups, so in a few decades as those age groups age, it should filter through. It about 8% overall, but on some age groups it's only 3% (but by that token, over 13% in older ones....). Either way, we can't deny it's real, and that's not me whiteknighting
Earning gap and pay gap are two very different things .
A male nurse and a female nurse get paid the same , for the same job , same with train driver , bus driver , warehouse assistant , police constable etc etc .
Earnings over a career might differ by a few percent because of career breaks for having children etc .
But there is no pay gap ."That's just wishful thinking. Earning Gap is not an official thing is is just trying to justify earning more by saying women need to make babies. "The gender pay gap is calculated as the difference between average hourly earnings (excluding overtime) of men and women as a proportion of men’s average hourly earnings (excluding overtime). It is a measure across all jobs in the UK, not of the difference in pay between men and women for doing the same job." Verbatim quote from the same page as the stats, direct from the ONS. Inarguable. | |||
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"It's always been like this. .. even in nightclubs years ago it was free for girls, the boys had to pay. " What happens if the boys identify as girls? | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. ."Well according to the office for national statistics you're wrong | |||
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"It's to balance out all the extra money we pay in pink tax for shit like razors and tampons. Evie Buy men's razors. Literally the only difference is the colour. A blade is a blade." Same goes for pink toys, you can have exactly the same product but the pink one will generally be more expensive then the "boys" version | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. .
Well according to the office for national statistics you're wrong "According to the BBC they are also wrong.... | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. .
Well according to the office for national statistics you're wrong
According to the BBC they are also wrong...."But if a female BBC presenter (one that gets paid less than their male counterparts) was to attend to a swingers club, they'd still be earning far more than me; should we all be Means-Tested? With a clubs entrance fee been adjusted for your income? | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? It's acceptable because it's the law, private members club. No it's no sue-able. Winston " Is it really the law still? . I recall the Lib Dems pushed forward an act to prohibit gender based Pricing a few years ago | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " And this is why I’m not keen on clubs 
The sexist double standards are ridiculous  but there are guys willing to pay so, I don’t see this changing | |||
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" Men, on average, work for longer and in more difficult/dangerous jobs. This equals slightly different lifetime earnings.... That doesn't mean women get paid less for same work and hours. Can we bury this red herring and move on now.? "We're talking average hourly pay for those currently working in this most recent year not lifetime earnings over several decades. The top 10 companies with the highest pay gap include 6 banks. Where are the dangerous jobs in banking? Let's assume that the difference between the 40.2% higher pay men get at Lloyds Bank is because the men do different roles, women sit and look pretty on the high street, men wear suits and are important in meetings doing management. This may not be a pay gap issue because they are performing different roles, but it still a sexism issue is women can't get the higher paid jobs to compare. Also in the top 10, JD Wetherspoon (how surprising). 22.8% higher pay for men. Let's apply the same logic, in what way can men earn more unless they are the only ones doing the better jobs? one quick google "In this organisation, women occupy 29% of the highest paid jobs and 67% of the lowest paid jobs - shock horror | |||
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" It's acceptable because it's the law, private members club. No it's no sue-able. Winston Is it really the law still? . I recall the Lib Dems pushed forward an act to prohibit gender based Pricing a few years ago " I think they did, but I think there is a difference between products and services in play. Hard to be sure. But then recently a clothing chain got into (public, not legal) trouble for charging more money for larger sized items of clothing - it's a minefield, huh.... | |||
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" Men, on average, work for longer and in more difficult/dangerous jobs. This equals slightly different lifetime earnings.... That doesn't mean women get paid less for same work and hours. Can we bury this red herring and move on now.?
We're talking average hourly pay for those currently working in this most recent year not lifetime earnings over several decades.
The top 10 companies with the highest pay gap include 6 banks. Where are the dangerous jobs in banking? Let's assume that the difference between the 40.2% higher pay men get at Lloyds Bank is because the men do different roles, women sit and look pretty on the high street, men wear suits and are important in meetings doing management. This may not be a pay gap issue because they are performing different roles, but it still a sexism issue is women can't get the higher paid jobs to compare.
Also in the top 10, JD Wetherspoon (how surprising). 22.8% higher pay for men. Let's apply the same logic, in what way can men earn more unless they are the only ones doing the better jobs? one quick google "In this organisation, women occupy 29% of the highest paid jobs and 67% of the lowest paid jobs - shock horror
"It’s a huge problem if you think it’s bad in the uk look at west Africa, it’s horrific. The women just don’t push like the men, other than at school where they do better. But from 21 they avoid the fighting that gets you into the top jobs. Although east Africa is leading the way, Rwanda is the most gender equal country in the world now with a ministry of gender statistics & laws requiring at least 50% of Judges be female and very high numbers of female CFO’s which has shown to reduce corruption & increase GDP. But it took a genocide to get there … | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " don't let it bother you don't go hope they close down down | |||
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"The dark side to this, is when some single men, expect sex, because they’ve paid more to get in. " This is definitely true | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up. "Would you like several all of which happened in the court recently. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
That's debatable.
Not really .
Certainly not in the U.K. .
I beg to differ.
You can beg all you want , doesn’t make it true .
Suggest a job where women get paid less than men for doing the same job ? "2 female bcc staff have recently had their claims that they were being paid less than male colleagues in a coublin rolls up held. Predominantly Female Asda checkout employees had their case uphold when their Predominantly male colleagues in the warehouse were getting paid more. | |||
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"I read this as sexiest pricing, and was expecting to see something like £69, or £80.08 etc. Oh well OP, just thing of all the other sexist stuff like earning more than women for the same job which helps pay the extra entrance fee
Except women don’t earn less than men for the same job …….
Exactly. Some (most) people are totally brain washed into repeating this lie like a parrot, but when you ask for an example they soon shut up.
Except I gave actual government statistics from this year and didn't shut up. And I could give examples also. Last time I did a job that also had a woman doing a comparable role, I earned more than she did by around £7000. We were in the same 10 year age bracket too.
There are lies , damn lies and then there are statistics …….
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"The moral of the story is don't go to clubs, and don't pay because, in reality, you won't get what you wanted anyway. Then, eventually, if sufficient men do that, the supply/demand will rebalance the cost. Having said that the majority of forum posts advising unsucessful guys on Fab suggest "Try a club" so nothing will change any time soon. "On a average club night how many single women do you think there are compared to single men even at these prices? | |||
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"Supply and demand." Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. " Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... " You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60 | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. " 2.5mins, we’re getting quicker
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"I have just been reminded of another example where women do not get paid the same as men for the same job. Professional football players. " Please, expand. Why should a female footballer be paid the same as their male counterparts? | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60" your choice | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. 2.5mins, we’re getting quicker
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"I have just been reminded of another example where women do not get paid the same as men for the same job. Professional football players. Please, expand. Why should a female footballer be paid the same as their male counterparts?" Why should a woman pay the same to get into a club as a man? | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60your choice" You mean in the same way it's a man's choice to pay double the amount of a woman to get into a club? | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60" I thought the whole point of this thread was to answer the question: is it sexiest to have a pricing policy that differs according to a person's sex and if so can/should establishments that do this be sued? | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60 I thought the whole point of this thread was to answer the question: is it sexiest to have a pricing policy that differs according to a person's sex and if so can/should establishments that do this be sued?" The answer is no it's not sexist and if we're going to go down that route don't expect people to not give answers for other things that are sexist. | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. " It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. " So it's funny isn't it's OK for women to be paid less but it's not OK for men to pay more to get into a club. Seems to be the general consensus by some and again the usual suspects. Very vocal when it affects men not so much when it affects women. | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " If you changed that pricing structure clubs would be full of men and no women and couples It’s done for a reason and it has worked well for decades If it ain’t broke don’t fix it | |||
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"There are not many more 'occassions' in life when I feel that women are seen as no more than two bit whores.... and men as idiots.. Like........ Which woman NEVER wanted to go to a sex club but went cos it was half price ? ...... You have a choice,pay or not,what is the problem,no one is forcing you, As for the legal side of things,I'm not sure how that stands You and others are missing the point. Even with women being half price there are usually at least double the amount of men. If the price got brought down for men There would still be the same amount of women but triple the amount of men at least. If women's prices got brought up to the same as men's even less women would go. I would pay £30 to get into a club I would not pay £60your choice You mean in the same way it's a man's choice to pay double the amount of a woman to get into a club? " | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. So it's funny isn't it's OK for women to be paid less but it's not OK for men to pay more to get into a club. Seems to be the general consensus by some and again the usual suspects. Very vocal when it affects men not so much when it affects women. " I’ve not mentioned if males should pay more or less to get into a club. I have however given a reply to your posts that had incorrect information in them | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. So it's funny isn't it's OK for women to be paid less but it's not OK for men to pay more to get into a club. Seems to be the general consensus by some and again the usual suspects. Very vocal when it affects men not so much when it affects women. " Some are just vocal full stop. | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. So it's funny isn't it's OK for women to be paid less but it's not OK for men to pay more to get into a club. Seems to be the general consensus by some and again the usual suspects. Very vocal when it affects men not so much when it affects women. Some are just vocal full stop. " And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? but if you identify as a female do you get in for £30? What about all the other sexes how much is it for them? " Tv/TS Normally pay the same price as single women or couples. | |||
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"I can't believe the narrow minded people on here, that claim equality is an important aspiration, then go on to defend sexist standards. I doesn't bother me personally but I hate to see the injustice for anyone, and that men are just supposed to suffer quietly. There's a great carton that I can't really show or link too, but it's entitles Equity versus Equality. It's 3 people trying to watch a baseball game over a fence. The three people are different heights, one really short, one really tall etc. Equality was giving everyone a box to stand on meaning the small guy still couldn't see over, but the tall guy who could anyway just got to see even better. Equity was giving the tall mans box to the smaller guy, so all three could see over. Hard to describe in words, but equality isn't always treating everyone exactly the same. I don't want a knee replacement just because my nanna had one and I'm jealous. Equality - everyone gets the box Equity - The boxes are shared out fairly http://i2.wp.com/interactioninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IISC_EqualityEquity.png?zoom=2&resize=730%2C547" in this example, pay is the view outcome. Equal opportunities doesn't mean equal outcomes. Not everyone wants to watch baseball. (There is some irony these cartoons rely on watching sports which doesn't offer leg ups) I'm not going to get involved suffice to say compares medians is not a great way of analysing data. Is says nothing about like for like jobs) | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? but if you identify as a female do you get in for £30? What about all the other sexes how much is it for them? Tv/TS Normally pay the same price as single women or couples. " do this pricing structure is in effect illegal then but I doubt anyone really wants to take anyone to court over £30 | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? but if you identify as a female do you get in for £30? What about all the other sexes how much is it for them? Tv/TS Normally pay the same price as single women or couples. do this pricing structure is in effect illegal then but I doubt anyone really wants to take anyone to court over £30" It's not illegal at all in the same way travel companies will often charge a surcharge for single travellers. Is it agaist the law that students get discounts as well as OAP's?. | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? but if you identify as a female do you get in for £30? What about all the other sexes how much is it for them? Tv/TS Normally pay the same price as single women or couples. do this pricing structure is in effect illegal then but I doubt anyone really wants to take anyone to court over £30 It's not illegal at all in the same way travel companies will often charge a surcharge for single travellers. Is it agaist the law that students get discounts as well as OAP's?. " but discriminate between a man and a women is in fact and quite rightly so and should be challenged at all levels. I for one have always just chosen not to go places that do so | |||
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"Supply and demand. Why do women moan when they’re not getting paid the same as men then using this analogy? Let’s use sport as one example. Because it is a human right to get paid the same as someone else for doing the same job. It is not a human right The same to get into a swingers Club One is essential and the other is not. One affects quality of life the other does not would you like me to go on... Not even remotely comparable. It is actually illegal to pay different wages based on either being male or female. The difference in earnings being thrown around by the usual suspects is on average males earn more because they’re in roles that pay more. If a female was in the same role, they too would be paid the same. If females don’t want to the same jobs, that’s up to them, if females are prevented from doing the same job, thats a different story. More females work in lower paid jobs, that’s a fact. We will no doubt have people complain that the jobs that are paying females less, should be paying more. It is demand and supply, like you or someone else said, which brings us to everyone has choice. The outliers, roles have a banding upper and lower, a male can be at the upper due to length of time or performance but the banding is available to all. This probably were the story of a poster who claims he was getting 7k more for doing the same job comes from. Or something very close to this example. So it's funny isn't it's OK for women to be paid less but it's not OK for men to pay more to get into a club. Seems to be the general consensus by some and again the usual suspects. Very vocal when it affects men not so much when it affects women. Some are just vocal full stop. " | |||
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"It's not going to change any time soon so if it's an issue then don't go " Men just have to suck it up and pay up , or don't go , it's not hard ultimately . life isnt always fair with costs of things ..thats how it rolls . personally 60 quid for a night out isnt bad especially with a fairly good odds of getting laid thrown in ... Swinging clubs are a luxury not a right or essential product .. | |||
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"Actually, it appears that they are, in fact, breaking the law. I've just looked up the 2010 Equality act. Under the section for Private Members clubs it says : It is unlawful for a private club or other association to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.) A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex or sexual orientation. We all understand WHY they charge men more and what would happen if they charged everyone the same. I am only posting this for the sake of factual accuracy. " In that case men only clubs and societies are against the law. | |||
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"Actually, it appears that they are, in fact, breaking the law. I've just looked up the 2010 Equality act. Under the section for Private Members clubs it says : It is unlawful for a private club or other association to discriminate against, harass or victimise an existing or potential member or an associate. (An associate is someone who is not a member but who has some or all of the rights of a member because they are a member of an affiliated private club.) A club cannot refuse membership, or grant membership on less favourable terms (such as by applying different conditions or fees) because the person has a protected characteristic – disability, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex or sexual orientation. We all understand WHY they charge men more and what would happen if they charged everyone the same. I am only posting this for the sake of factual accuracy. " | |||
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" Men, on average, work for longer and in more difficult/dangerous jobs. This equals slightly different lifetime earnings.... That doesn't mean women get paid less for same work and hours. Can we bury this red herring and move on now.?
We're talking average hourly pay for those currently working in this most recent year not lifetime earnings over several decades.
The top 10 companies with the highest pay gap include 6 banks. Where are the dangerous jobs in banking? Let's assume that the difference between the 40.2% higher pay men get at Lloyds Bank is because the men do different roles, women sit and look pretty on the high street, men wear suits and are important in meetings doing management. This may not be a pay gap issue because they are performing different roles, but it still a sexism issue is women can't get the higher paid jobs to compare.
Also in the top 10, JD Wetherspoon (how surprising). 22.8% higher pay for men. Let's apply the same logic, in what way can men earn more unless they are the only ones doing the better jobs? one quick google "In this organisation, women occupy 29% of the highest paid jobs and 67% of the lowest paid jobs - shock horror
Have you ever thought that maybe because in general, men and women have different priorities?
Men have a lot of pressure to provide .
Many women want to have children , so career progresses is slower for them.
The truth is , there are more men that want to do those jobs and make the sacrifices required .
Equality is nothing to do with how many people of each sex are in a certain career , equality of opportunity does not equal equality of outcome .
Is it sexist that 90% of nurses are women ?
Is it sexist that women earn far more than men on only fans ?
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " The women are sex bait. The men pay over the odds in the hope of getting some sex. As the men pay double they get value for money by watching, wanking, etc. | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? " Single guys always pay more . | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? The women are sex bait. The men pay over the odds in the hope of getting some sex. As the men pay double they get value for money by watching, wanking, etc. "And Women don't watch ? | |||
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? The women are sex bait. The men pay over the odds in the hope of getting some sex. As the men pay double they get value for money by watching, wanking, etc.
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"Yet another example of sexism that everyone turns a blind eye to..... Well it's only males! Another club opening in South Devon with sexist pricing...... " £30 single female A few select single males spaces are available £60 each" Why is this seen as acceptable in todays world? Is it sue-able? The women are sex bait. The men pay over the odds in the hope of getting some sex. As the men pay double they get value for money by watching, wanking, etc.
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"Just like it's a man's choice to go to a club, it is my choice to make an effort to look good. Now, I'm not a high maintenance woman and yet £35 nails; £15 stockings (which will undoubtedly get ruined) make-up, hairdos, lingerie... Other women will pay for waxing, cosmetic fillers, hair extensions, sunbeds... All to look flippin hot! The ancillary costs for women are huge, and I don't know of a single guy who doesn't appreciate that. And yes, I want clubs to keep the rifraff out! Although having a higher price for men doesn't exclude the (few) entitled pricks
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"Just like it's a man's choice to go to a club, it is my choice to make an effort to look good. Now, I'm not a high maintenance woman and yet £35 nails; £15 stockings (which will undoubtedly get ruined) make-up, hairdos, lingerie... Other women will pay for waxing, cosmetic fillers, hair extensions, sunbeds... All to look flippin hot! The ancillary costs for women are huge, and I don't know of a single guy who doesn't appreciate that. And yes, I want clubs to keep the rifraff out! Although having a higher price for men doesn't exclude the (few) entitled pricks
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"Funny thing is most fetish clubs/events do not operate a separate pricing policy and they are usualy bussy with singles and couples of both sexes .oddly dont seem to get the creepy men or the daisey chain of wanky men " Different market and audience completely though. The two aren't comparable at all. A | |||
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"Funny thing is most fetish clubs/events do not operate a separate pricing policy and they are usualy bussy with singles and couples of both sexes .oddly dont seem to get the creepy men or the daisey chain of wanky men Different market and audience completely though. The two aren't comparable at all. A" Was just about to post this
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? " I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx | |||
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx" I have used facts you just didn't like them. Where have I said women are victims and you just have the audacity to say this was about facts what facts have you given? Not sure why you were that bothered as you are a couple so you also pay less than single men. | |||
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx" Just because it's different doesn't mean it's sexist. Equity and equality are different things. Also men are not being denied access to create discrimination based on provision of services, they're just being charged more. Evie | |||
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"And this idea. That has been mentioned several times..... That women choose to spend more money on themselves.... So only fair men are forced to pay higher prices, is the most pathetic justification for sexist pricing policies, I've ever heard of.
That's like saying men spend more on their cars, so should legally be paid more per hour. Would any of these blinkered defenders agree with this lunacy? "Are you going to answer the question in relation to the fact couples also pay less because you have been asked about this a couple of times and completely ignored it. | |||
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx I have used facts you just didn't like them. Where have I said women are victims and you just have the audacity to say this was about facts what facts have you given? Not sure why you were that bothered as you are a couple so you also pay less than single men. " Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx | |||
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx I have used facts you just didn't like them. Where have I said women are victims and you just have the audacity to say this was about facts what facts have you given? Not sure why you were that bothered as you are a couple so you also pay less than single men. Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx" Name calling is not nice or called for
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx I have used facts you just didn't like them. Where have I said women are victims and you just have the audacity to say this was about facts what facts have you given? Not sure why you were that bothered as you are a couple so you also pay less than single men. Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx" But you didn't say anything about all discrimination did you. You cherry picked. There is no need for you to be aggressive with me just because I think differently I am also not the only one but I am the only one that you have decided to get personal with. Like I said I have posted facts you have not. | |||
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" Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx" You hate it all, but you complain when people talk about sexism that doesn’t affect you negatively. Got it. | |||
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"And this idea. That has been mentioned several times..... That women choose to spend more money on themselves.... So only fair men are forced to pay higher prices, is the most pathetic justification for sexist pricing policies, I've ever heard of.
That's like saying men spend more on their cars, so should legally be paid more per hour. Would any of these blinkered defenders agree with this lunacy?
Are you going to answer the question in relation to the fact couples also pay less because you have been asked about this a couple of times and completely ignored it. "Not ignoring, just haven't got all day to read the entire thread.... Especially when most of it is factually inaccurate and pushing agendas. There is a economic argument to giving two customers a discount over one. It works economically across... Holidays, family theme parks,.... That is a business decisions and in no way can be sexist, if applied to any couple. Can a bi couple claim this or Would they be discriminated by their sexuality? Would you defend this view aswell? | |||
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" And a woman being vocal upsets some obviously. Not going to answer then? I don't think anyone is worried about vocal females. They just would prefer you to use facts. And your constant view that women are victims of sexism whilst in the same breath defending a completely sexist pricing policy is ridiculous. xx I have used facts you just didn't like them. Where have I said women are victims and you just have the audacity to say this was about facts what facts have you given? Not sure why you were that bothered as you are a couple so you also pay less than single men. Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx Name calling is not nice or called for
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"If they were able to gain an alcoholic sales revenue then prices could be dropped, but that's Ill advised for obvious reasons " D*unk zombie wankers  no, I'll pay more for a quality night out, ta | |||
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" There is no need for you to be aggressive with me just because I think differently I am also not the only one but I am the only one that you have decided to get personal with. " I’m pretty sure he must think I’m too busy drowning in ally clunge to reply to. Obviously that never happens but it’s not exactly a secret that a a bunch of women have blocked him because of his opinions, so I might not be winning but I didn’t lose…  | |||
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" Because I'm not a short-sighted, selfish shit. I hate all discrimination, not what just fits my blinkered agenda. xx You hate it all, but you complain when people talk about sexism that doesn’t affect you negatively. Got it." Errrmmmmm no, i said this situation doesn't effect me, but I don't like sexism. Got it? | |||
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