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"Why would a charity want the increase of violent incidents ?" Think he meant warn but was still a lil bit amusing mistake | |||
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"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. " Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. | |||
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"A domestic violence charity is wanting of the increased risk of incidents during the World Cup. What's going on here guys?" warning | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year." Hyperbole. What's your answer then? | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then?" As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. " ...plus teach the perpetrators that it's not ok...at as an early an age as possible. | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? Hyperbole? What do you mean?" I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration. That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption. | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. ...plus teach the perpetrators that it's not ok...at as an early an age as possible. " Absolutely. | |||
"Guys get d*unk England disappoint & men take it out on their wives. Story as old as time" I’m afraid so | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then?" In my town the council are running the white ribbon initiative and encouraging everyone especially men to make the pledge; 'to never excuse, use or remain silent about Mens Violence towards Women' I'm not saying it's the answer but it's a good start. | |||
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"Why would a charity want the increase of violent incidents ?" It's quantity over quality with these threads. Mistakes can happen | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? Hyperbole? What do you mean? I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration. That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption. " What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner. | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen " Well...... | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? Hyperbole? What do you mean? I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration. That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption. What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner. " He’ll immediately see her in a new way, respect her and they both lived happily ever after. (Yes it’s a fairytale) | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen " I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all | |||
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"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all" But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie | |||
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"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie " Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early " we definitely need to more education and awareness. And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser. | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness. And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser. " I'm not saying a real man drinks big, just that he can drink without being violent towards people | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness. And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser. " Agreed. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous substances out there because of it's social acceptance...And being d*unk is never a cool look from anyone. I just hope that being in a country which forbids alcohol then people might have to control themselves...Or the lack of alcohol could exacerbate the behaviours whichever way it will highlight how pathetic these people can be | |||
"Hyperbole. What's your answer then?" Below is a list of the 81 women that were killed by men in the seven months following the murder of Sarah Everard on March 3 2021. 1. Geetika Goyal, 29, died 4 March 2. Imogen Bohajczuk, 29, died 4 March 3. Wenjing Xu, 16, died 5 March 4. Karen McClean, 50, died 19 March 5. Stacey Knell, 30, died 19 March 6. Smita Mistry, 32, died 23 March 7. Sammy Mills, 31, died 23 March 8. Patricia Audsley, 66, died 25 March 9. Phyllis Nelson, 76, died 26 March 10. Klaudia Soltys, 30, died 27 March 11. Simone Ambler, 49, died 29 March 12. Emma McArthur, 49, died 1 April 13. Sherrie Milnes, 51, died 1 April 14. Constanta Bunea, 50, died 4 April 15. Jacqueline Grant, 54, died 6 April 16. Loretta Herman, 85, died 9 April 17. Egle Vengaliene, 34, died 9 April 18. Sally Metcalf, 68, died 10 April 19. Sarah Keith, 26, died 13 April 20. Peggy Wright, 83, died 18 April 21. Charmaine O’Donnell, 25, died 23 April 22. Michelle Cooper, 40, died 23 April 23. Kerry Bradford, 57, died 25 April 24. Julia James, 53, died 27 April 25. Beth Aspey, 34, died 30 April 26. Susan Booth, 62, died 2 May 27. Mayra Zulfiqar, 26, died 3 May 28. Maria Rawlings, 45, died 4 May 29. Chenise Gregory, 29, died 4 May 30. Agnes Akom, 20, went missing 9 May 31. Wendy Cole, 70, died 10 May 32. Caroline Crouch, 20, died 11 May 33. Svetlana Mihalachi, 53, died 12 May 34. Nicola Kirk, 45, died 12 May 35. Unnamed woman, 32, died 13 May 36. Agita Geslere, 61, died 25 May 37. Lauren Wilson, 34, died 26 May 38. Peninah Kabeba, 42, died 27 May 39. Jill Hickery, 80s, died 29 May 40. Bethany Vincent, 26, died 31 May 41. Esther Brown, 67, died 1 June 42. Michaela Hall, 49, died 1 June 43. Mildred Whitmore, 84, died 1 June 44. Stacey Clay, 39, died 2 June 45. Linda Hood, 68, died 11 June 46. Marlene Coleman, 53, died 16 June 47. Sophie Cartlidge, 39, died 18 June 48. Gracie Spinks, 23, died 18 June 49. Michelle Hibbert, 29, died 19 June 50. Kim Dearden, 63, died 20 June 51. Sally Poynton, 44, died 22 June 52. Catherine Wardleworth, 70s, died 23 June 53. Sukhjit Badial, 73, died 29 June 54. Elsie Pinder, 66, died 3 July 55. Catherine Stewart, 54, died 4 July 56. Ishrat Ahmed, 52, died 4 July 57. Tamara Padi, 43, died 7 July 58. Katie Brankin, 37, died 12 July 59. Sandra Hughes, 63, died 13 July 60. Beatrice Stoica, 36, died 23 July 61. Pat Holland, 83, died 24 July 62. Yordanos Brhane, 19, died 31 July 63. Amanda Selby, 15, died 31 July 64. Louise Kam, 71, found dead 1 August 65. Malgorzata Lechanska, 37, died 1 August 66. Megan Newborough, 23, found dead 8 August 67. Diana Nichols, 57, died 9 August 68. Maxine Davison, 51, died 12 August 69. Kate Shepherd, 66, died 12 August 70. Bella Nicandro, 76, died 14 August 71. Eileen Barrott, 50, died 15 August 72. Sharon Pickles, 45, died 19 August 73. Helen Anderson, 41, died 23 August 74. Jade Ward, 27, died 26 August 75. Maddie Durdant-Hollamby, 22, died 27 August 76. Fawziyah Javed, 31, died 2 September 77. Ingrid Matthew, 54, died 11 September 78. Sabina Nessa, 28, 17 September 79. Unnamed woman, died 17 September 80. Terri Harris, 35, died 19 September 81. Sukhjeet Uppal, 40, died 19 September . . Hyperbole, apparently. What is the answer? The answer is for inadequate wankers to stop beating women. The answer is to teach boys in school that beating women is wrong, always. The answer is to get rid of the men who beat women, either by jailing them for life or putting them to sleep. Because sooner or later, the arsehole who argues that it was just "one little slap" will inevitably go on to seriously hurt, maim or kill a woman. Case in point, Jordan McSweeney, who sexually assaulted and then kicked and stamped to death 5ft 1inch Zara Aleena as she walked home from a night out. McSweeney had 28 convictions for 69 offences, and had been out of prison for nine days before murdering Zara. The judge described him as a "substantial risk to the public, especially lone women". Why was this piece of shit even allowed out to walk our streets? What the fuck did the authorities think he was going to do? Volunteer in a home for blind orphans? It's OK though. They've got him now. And all it took to stop him was the life of a tiny young woman happily walking home from a night out with friends. I'm sure that such a thing won't ever happen again. Lessons will have been learned. | |||
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" Beer Testosterone Stupidity Football Twats " Not all, some of us like a beer and will happily share one with opposing fans and I have often done so. | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness. And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser. I'm not saying a real man drinks big, just that he can drink without being violent towards people " agreed. I totally accept it's my reading of the phrase, from my conditioning, and not your intention. It's part of the reason I've grown to dislike the phrase. It's not got the clarity to embarrass thsoe who do drink past their limits. Ps to all those who have experienced DV either directly or indirectly. And I love you all for sharing. The bravery is amazing. | |||
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"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. " As soon as I started reading your comments on this thread, I knew you were speaking from experience. Sad that this is still seen as a joke by so many. I'm glad you got out sis x | |||
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"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? Hyperbole? What do you mean? I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration. That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption. What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner. He’ll immediately see her in a new way, respect her and they both lived happily ever after. (Yes it’s a fairytale) " | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality. Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids Pixie Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid. It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness. And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser. Agreed. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous substances out there because of it's social acceptance...And being d*unk is never a cool look from anyone. I just hope that being in a country which forbids alcohol then people might have to control themselves...Or the lack of alcohol could exacerbate the behaviours whichever way it will highlight how pathetic these people can be" | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen " I follow motorcycle racing, and sometimes drink when its on. I've never committed domestic violence either. Is it the sport or the person? Or is it that more people like football so theres a higher percentage? I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I follow motorcycle racing, and sometimes drink when its on. I've never committed domestic violence either. Is it the sport or the person? Or is it that more people like football so theres a higher percentage? I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. " Of course motorcycle types are exempt from committing any crimes including domestic violence.. Dream on... | |||
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"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then?" I'm sure nobody needs to be 'taught' how to kick someone in the nuts. Self defence is more effective. It's absolutely not hyperbole. You think a man who likes controlling the woman will tolerate her fighting back? | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. " As another survivor I would also teach everyone that the responsibility of men's violence or ending it does not lie with the woman. | |||
"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts. Many have tried. Now all they get is flowers laid once a year. Hyperbole. What's your answer then? As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. As another survivor I would also teach everyone that the responsibility of men's violence or ending it does not lie with the woman." we all need to take a stand. And look to educate ourselves too. | |||
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"Are these buggers at it tonight ?" Somewhere, undoubtedly..I have seen victorious football fans celebrate by smashing up the town centre where the match was held. I have seen defeated fans console themselves by smashing up the town centre where the match was held.... | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves. Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all" Alcohol is not the cause of domestic abuse/violence its the excuse for it. Theres no reason for any one to abuse be violent to their partner be that male or female (males being victims of abuse/violence is reported even less than violence in the home against women). If you can't control yourself d*unk or sober leave. If your a victim leave go anywhere they never change. Go to the police, local hospital, shelter anywhere as long as its safe then report it and tell everyone. You haven't done anything to deserve a slap you are the strong one. You aren't the one who should feel shame. They are scum plain and simple scum. | |||
"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I follow motorcycle racing, and sometimes drink when its on. I've never committed domestic violence either. Is it the sport or the person? Or is it that more people like football so theres a higher percentage? I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. Of course motorcycle types are exempt from committing any crimes including domestic violence.. Dream on..." I never have. | |||
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"Guys get d*unk England disappoint & men take it out on their wives. Story as old as time" Statistics go up when they win too. 12 percent increase I believe, if memory serves. | |||
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"So their home team win and they still attack their partners.. Despicable " odd phrasing Tom. It's dispicable full stop. Win, lose, draw, didn't play, don't support a team. D*unk, tipsy, high, sober. | |||
"So their home team win and they still attack their partners.. Despicable odd phrasing Tom. It's dispicable full stop. Win, lose, draw, didn't play, don't support a team. D*unk, tipsy, high, sober. " Well nobody should be attacking their partners | |||
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"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen I follow motorcycle racing, and sometimes drink when its on. I've never committed domestic violence either. Is it the sport or the person? Or is it that more people like football so theres a higher percentage? I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. " Of course it’s the person. Sport doesn’t CAUSE domestic violence, it’s just that combination of alcohol and emotion tends to act as a trigger in those who are otherwise disposed to such crimes. | |||