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In my local M&S they reduce the food at the same time every day and I've seen desperate 'hovering' in there too. Totally out of order in both cases, but especially so in M&S because if you can afford to buy food from there you aren't in that bad of a financial situation. | |||
"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate." It’s a sad reflection of saddos. I’ve seen this happen and it’s not desperate people it’s been going on for ages. When I used to work in a convenience store as a teen it would always happen to me. These people weren’t broke they were just tight and weird. To them getting 15p knocked off a pack of sausages was like winning the lottery. It gives them a strange thrill. | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate." Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. | |||
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"Everyone loves a bargain, me included - I'd feel bad though if someone destitute missed out - in fact if i knew, i would offer it to them - but then i wonder if they'd refuse due to pride " I'd share it with you   | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it." Oh yeah people are rushing to the shops thinking to themselves “I better get some out of date cheese because of those tories” | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. Oh yeah people are rushing to the shops thinking to themselves “I better get some out of date cheese because of those tories”"  | |||
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"I work in a small convenience supermarket and we have regulars who come in every day for the final reductions. They can be a bit rude, but at least they are orderly about it. But I recently went to a big Tesco on a Sunday afternoon and saw a pensioner punching and elbowing people out of the way so that he could grab armfuls of reduced meat was really shocking"  | |||
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"They would be better off having a separate isle just for the poor and needy. They could put all of the reduced stuff in there and the own brand tea bags etc. Problem solved... " And how would you ensure only the needy get it? | |||
"I work in a small convenience supermarket and we have regulars who come in every day for the final reductions. They can be a bit rude, but at least they are orderly about it. But I recently went to a big Tesco on a Sunday afternoon and saw a pensioner punching and elbowing people out of the way so that he could grab armfuls of reduced meat was really shocking"And whenever I've noticed this kind of behaviour it seems to be the older generation. | |||
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"I didn't realise it had got quite as bad but in the last year or so I've seen more people gathering round the person putting the reduced stickers on. The worst I've seen is in Marks and Spencers " Yes and same here. I didnt realise it have gone so bad either. | |||
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"I read an article in the sun about it, did you too? Here it is: https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/20281153/tesco-stop-shoppers-yellow-sticker-reduced/ Apparently tesco isputting up security barricades to protect staff from desperate shoppers when they put reduced stickers on food. The reason they are putting the barricades up is because the customers have been snatching the bargains from workers’ hands as soon as yellow stickers go on. What do you think of it? Whilst yes, safety is good to have for the staff, but quite sad of how it have come to this, is it down to the living crisis as many cant afford food as they did before?" My first job was doing this in a well known supermarket. It was the same then. It was sad then and its sad now how people have no manners. Being desperate doesnt have to mean behaving like that. | |||
"I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it." is the atomic weight of cobalt 58.9?  | |||
"I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. is the atomic weight of cobalt 58.9? "Dunno but I bet it was more under Labour…. | |||
"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it." Food banks have been running in the UK since @2000, work it out yourself. In the US they have been operating since the 70s..but yes it must all be down to the government of the day….. | |||
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"Desperate times for desperate measures I mean a bag of rice was snatched and the woman had a paddy in the field when security caught up with her "Did it boil over? | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. Food banks have been running in the UK since @2000, work it out yourself. In the US they have been operating since the 70s..but yes it must all be down to the government of the day….." Some have been going even longer than that as I know the one I used to volunteer in started in 96. | |||
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"It's not new and it's not news. However as someone above suggested. Shops could do it in a fairer and more dignified way if they chose to. " It may not ne new but the queues are longer, the aggression is on the increase and it seems that far more people(young and old) are in greater need. | |||
"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. Food banks have been running in the UK since @2000, work it out yourself. In the US they have been operating since the 70s..but yes it must all be down to the government of the day….." How many foodbanks were there in 2009? How many are there now? How on earth can you claim that increase isn't linked to the government and their policies? | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it. Food banks have been running in the UK since @2000, work it out yourself. In the US they have been operating since the 70s..but yes it must all be down to the government of the day….. How many foodbanks were there in 2009? How many are there now? How on earth can you claim that increase isn't linked to the government and their policies?" There is the roughly the same number of food banks however a lot of them have adapted, expanded and changed how they operate. For an example one I worked at 8 years ago, Was the same food bank but operated over 5 sites on different days across the city to make the food accessible to more people. 4 years ago there was a lot of awareness about food banks and funding and support from individuals, organisations, businesses and other charities increased. They still have their original offering which is referral only. In addition they have one day a week where anyone can turn up at a specific place and get food, They have also set up 6 "food markets" Were eople can pick 5 items or £1.50, 10 for £3.00 or 15 for £4.50. | |||
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"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. " I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real!" It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. " Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries." I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. " I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. " This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. | |||
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"I worked in supermarket earlier this year and another thing that is happening a lot people ask till staff to let them know when the bill reaches a certain amount. " Again I don't believe this is anything new as my mum used to do this back in the early 90's. | |||
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"I think employees have a right to be able to work in an environment that is safe and free from harassment where possible. I totally agree Tesco should be looking after the welfare of their staff in the workplace as they carry out their duties. To be fair I don't think this is something new. As bargain hunters ourselves we are well aware of the circling shark mentally when the reduction trolley comes out. Personally we respect a few rules like letting the store assistant leave before diving in. However over the years there's always been those without scruples who will push to the front and snatch out of the hand of the shop assistant. As much as we like a bargain when it gets silly like that we tend to just leave people too it. But cases of fights breaking out at the reduction section are well documented and have happened for years." Although this is about food. If people think about the reports you see on January / Black Friday sales of people misbehaving when store doors open or fighting to grab a bargain? | |||
"I think employees have a right to be able to work in an environment that is safe and free from harassment where possible. I totally agree Tesco should be looking after the welfare of their staff in the workplace as they carry out their duties. To be fair I don't think this is something new. As bargain hunters ourselves we are well aware of the circling shark mentally when the reduction trolley comes out. Personally we respect a few rules like letting the store assistant leave before diving in. However over the years there's always been those without scruples who will push to the front and snatch out of the hand of the shop assistant. As much as we like a bargain when it gets silly like that we tend to just leave people too it. But cases of fights breaking out at the reduction section are well documented and have happened for years." Well documented you say? Where can I see these documents? | |||
"I think employees have a right to be able to work in an environment that is safe and free from harassment where possible. I totally agree Tesco should be looking after the welfare of their staff in the workplace as they carry out their duties. To be fair I don't think this is something new. As bargain hunters ourselves we are well aware of the circling shark mentally when the reduction trolley comes out. Personally we respect a few rules like letting the store assistant leave before diving in. However over the years there's always been those without scruples who will push to the front and snatch out of the hand of the shop assistant. As much as we like a bargain when it gets silly like that we tend to just leave people too it. But cases of fights breaking out at the reduction section are well documented and have happened for years. Well documented you say? Where can I see these documents?" Well I have definitely seen video clips on the news and online of people fighting over things in sails and black Friday events for years. | |||
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"This is nothing new, the sticker savages have been doing this for years. Anyone who regularly goes to the same supermarkets to shop will have seen this happening. Nothing to do with current time just general lack of manners." Yep. They were certainly doing it over 40 years ago when I was "reductions Man" in js. | |||
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"The optimal time in Morrisons seems to be 18:20.. Theres regulars pacing the isles , you get the occasional nod, yeah I know what your doing…. A woman stopped me the other night, quick she whispered, there’s roast chickens just come out for 75p. "Was this said in a hushed tone? | |||
"This is nothing new, the sticker savages have been doing this for years. Anyone who regularly goes to the same supermarkets to shop will have seen this happening. Nothing to do with current time just general lack of manners." Yes definitely, this. People who are skint will be aiming for 23p pasta and 16p spaghetti hoops. Most yellow sticker items I see are things that were overpriced in the first place. | |||
"This is nothing new, the sticker savages have been doing this for years. Anyone who regularly goes to the same supermarkets to shop will have seen this happening. Nothing to do with current time just general lack of manners. Yes definitely, this. People who are skint will be aiming for 23p pasta and 16p spaghetti hoops. Most yellow sticker items I see are things that were overpriced in the first place. " I would agree with you there. In our local Asda it's mostly overpriced ready meals and meat that are yellow stickered. Although I did get a pack of half price Herrings in Morrisons... | |||
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"I haven't read the article, but it doesn't surprise me as I've seen it first hand
In my local M&S they reduce the food at the same time every day and I've seen desperate 'hovering' in there too. Totally out of order in both cases, but especially so in M&S because if you can afford to buy food from there you aren't in that bad of a financial situation."Yes, it is out of order too | |||
"I haven't read the article, but it doesn't surprise me as I've seen it first hand
In my local M&S they reduce the food at the same time every day and I've seen desperate 'hovering' in there too. Totally out of order in both cases, but especially so in M&S because if you can afford to buy food from there you aren't in that bad of a financial situation.Yes, it is out of order too "I disagree with this actually. My sister lives in a rural area and her only supermarket that she can get to easily is an M&S simply food. She has no choice but to shop there plus also it's actually not that much more expensive than a lot of the other supermarkets they just don't have as much in the way of budget brands. | |||
"You'd have to be desperate to knowingly read an article from The S*n." This comment wins the thread | |||
"You'd have to be desperate to knowingly read an article from The S*n. This comment wins the thread "Why does it? What newspapers and news channels are acceptable to get information from because it seems to vary depending on who the poster is. | |||
"You'd have to be desperate to knowingly read an article from The S*n. This comment wins the thread "Second that! Along with the daily fail! Makes good bum fodder though! X | |||
"I haven't read the article, but it doesn't surprise me as I've seen it first hand
In my local M&S they reduce the food at the same time every day and I've seen desperate 'hovering' in there too. Totally out of order in both cases, but especially so in M&S because if you can afford to buy food from there you aren't in that bad of a financial situation.Yes, it is out of order too
I disagree with this actually. My sister lives in a rural area and her only supermarket that she can get to easily is an M&S simply food. She has no choice but to shop there plus also it's actually not that much more expensive than a lot of the other supermarkets they just don't have as much in the way of budget brands. "Does living rurally stop your sister from doing an online shop? I agree it's not all that much more expensive on staples, but ready meals, desserts, meat and frozen is a great deal more. | |||
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"You'd have to be desperate to knowingly read an article from The S*n. This comment wins the thread
Why does it? What newspapers and news channels are acceptable to get information from because it seems to vary depending on who the poster is. "I think it depends what outlet supports your argument | |||
"I haven't read the article, but it doesn't surprise me as I've seen it first hand
In my local M&S they reduce the food at the same time every day and I've seen desperate 'hovering' in there too. Totally out of order in both cases, but especially so in M&S because if you can afford to buy food from there you aren't in that bad of a financial situation.Yes, it is out of order too
I disagree with this actually. My sister lives in a rural area and her only supermarket that she can get to easily is an M&S simply food. She has no choice but to shop there plus also it's actually not that much more expensive than a lot of the other supermarkets they just don't have as much in the way of budget brands.
Does living rurally stop your sister from doing an online shop?
I agree it's not all that much more expensive on staples, but ready meals, desserts, meat and frozen is a great deal more."Yes because she can't afford the delivery fee or minimum spend. Lots of people don't realise there are lots of people that don't have access to cheap food. | |||
"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate.Yes, it is a very sad reflection too. I wonder if 12 years of the tories have anything to do with it." No I worked in safeways (remember them) about 20 years ago and it was the same then. People would ram me with their trolleys to get attention and the worst was when people would bring me things that I had missed to get reduced. | |||
"You'd have to be desperate to knowingly read an article from The S*n. This comment wins the thread
Why does it? What newspapers and news channels are acceptable to get information from because it seems to vary depending on who the poster is. "Yes, you will always get 1 or 2 of them. | |||
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"It's a sad reflection of our time. People are desperate." Ok don't agree with that, it's usually only about 20-30p off and in our local Tesco, sometimes the food is that bad it doesn't look fit to eat. Plus people buy stuff they usually don't because it has 30 pence of. I've never understood that. | |||
"Just a fyi for anyone who is struggling with affording food. Morrisons do a 6 month delivery pass for £36, and have dropped their minimum spend amount to £25 I'm not sure if other supermarkets offer similar." Thank you for that and I will get my sister to look into it. It genuinely is a big issue that a lot of people aren't aware of about access to cheap fresh food. I've done a bit of research into food deserts recently and it really is shocking how bad the situation is in some places. We try to help her as much as possible but it would be great if the money went a bit further so we will definitely be looking into the morrisons thing as we could get the pass for her. | |||
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"I only use Sainsburys and Waitrose and the yellow label area is very chill and polite. If you use Asda or Morrisons I think you have to expect some rough stuff." Why? | |||
"I only use Sainsburys and Waitrose and the yellow label area is very chill and polite. If you use Asda or Morrisons I think you have to expect some rough stuff." Are you actually implying that sainsburys is somehow posh | |||
"I only use Sainsburys and Waitrose and the yellow label area is very chill and polite. If you use Asda or Morrisons I think you have to expect some rough stuff. Are you actually implying that sainsburys is somehow posh "The snobbery of it. | |||
"I only use Sainsburys and Waitrose and the yellow label area is very chill and polite. If you use Asda or Morrisons I think you have to expect some rough stuff. Are you actually implying that sainsburys is somehow posh "We have a friend that works for waitrose and said the customers are much ruder in there than when she worked in Asda as they have a sense of entitlement. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. " £27,000 does not sound too bad, I agree but it is neigh impossible if you are a single mum or sole earner with a couple of kids and childcare charges. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. £27,000 does not sound too bad, I agree but it is neigh impossible if you are a single mum or sole earner with a couple of kids and childcare charges." That's why we have tax credits. I'm not saying it's enough however it should be enough for people not to have to rely on food banks regularly. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. £27,000 does not sound too bad, I agree but it is neigh impossible if you are a single mum or sole earner with a couple of kids and childcare charges. That's why we have tax credits. I'm not saying it's enough however it should be enough for people not to have to rely on food banks regularly. " I meant to add but forgot... also know that for those who I know personally, it feels like a walk of shame to have to go to a food bank but it is not a choice when kids are hungry and the flat is cold. I am sure many who use food banks, perhaps for the first time ever, feel a sense of failure and shame. In Germany for example, food banks are mainly visited by asylum seekers while they are in the processing system waiting for integration , education and work. Overall the welfare system is better therefore not as many German people have to queue for food. Nobody should feel ashamed for using a food bank, but then nobody should really have to use one on an ongoing basis, suffer the stigma - that is my point all over again. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. £27,000 does not sound too bad, I agree but it is neigh impossible if you are a single mum or sole earner with a couple of kids and childcare charges. That's why we have tax credits. I'm not saying it's enough however it should be enough for people not to have to rely on food banks regularly. " Yeah but... Gets click if you say nurses and teachers are resorting to food banks. Doesn't need to be true... People love to believe it. | |||
"Partisan politics aside which are always rife on here, the sad truth is there are a lot of people struggling out there. Some more than others and that is a real shame and sadly can't see it getting any better soon. So, so sad. I saw the queue outside a particular food bank over the past year or so getting longer and longer, family members in the NHS, teacher friends confirm the number of nurses, teachers, assistants etc relying on food banks has gone up significantly....this is for real! It would be interesting to see how many nurses are actually using food banks. Also it will be interesting to know where these numbers come from because I have worked at a food bank and volunteered at 3 more and we have never asked anybody what they do for a living. Anecdotal of course, as I was talking about my environment but I am thinking also of another example of two large counties in the UK (I cannot give details because it would identify where I work) where the stats are available. It is horrific to think that in 2022 child poverty is where it is and having to queue at a food bank is just one of the parents' worries. I agree but I'm sick of hearing lots of nurses need to use food banks as this actually seems to be untrue and cannot be verified. The vast majority of people Who are working whether that be full or part time do so because they find themselves in an emergency situation. We actually have no idea how many people who are working use food banks because that data isn't gathered, This is an article from full fact. We spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK, which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being referred for emergency food”. I saw another article that said the majority of nurses who have used food banks have done so in an emergency situation like a relationship breakdown rather than using them just to buy regularly. I can kind of understand your frustrations and, as stated, I happen to know a different side. But.... but to be perfectly direct, to me just one nurse/ teacher/ parent who is in work trying to provide for their kids and having to choose between feeding them or heating the home, having to queue at food banks... is one too many in my world. This is going to be unpopular but just because somebody is a nurse or a teacher doesn't mean they are good at managing money. A newly qualified nurse is on around £27,000 to 30,000 and around £25,000 for NQT's in the uk. The cost of living crisis has only really just started to bite yet there has been reports of nurses using food banks for around 3 years. Most people that are working full time Should be able to provide food, housing costs ect... The only stats I have found is from the citizens advice bureau and step change debt charity That state the biggest reason people who are working use food banks is because of debt, Relationship breakdown Or some form of emergency. That is basically what food banks are set up for to help people in an emergency situation but the media and a lot of unions actually will have you beleave people who are working are having to use food banks regularly just to get by but there doesn't seem to be any evidence of that. £27,000 does not sound too bad, I agree but it is neigh impossible if you are a single mum or sole earner with a couple of kids and childcare charges. That's why we have tax credits. I'm not saying it's enough however it should be enough for people not to have to rely on food banks regularly. I meant to add but forgot... also know that for those who I know personally, it feels like a walk of shame to have to go to a food bank but it is not a choice when kids are hungry and the flat is cold. I am sure many who use food banks, perhaps for the first time ever, feel a sense of failure and shame. In Germany for example, food banks are mainly visited by asylum seekers while they are in the processing system waiting for integration , education and work. Overall the welfare system is better therefore not as many German people have to queue for food. Nobody should feel ashamed for using a food bank, but then nobody should really have to use one on an ongoing basis, suffer the stigma - that is my point all over again. " You can't use a traditional food bank on a regular basis as the majority only allow between 3 and 5 times a year. As stated before they are meant as emergency provision, There are lots of community shops, Pantries and marketplaces where people pay a small token amount that they can use regularly. In some areas there are also places that offer free food no questions asked. | |||
"Personally I would be ashamed to hover around and argue over saving a few pence" Rest assured, many of them will feel shame - because they know what people will think and say about them. But I guess hunger trumps shame? | |||
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