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Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. |
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over a year ago
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To be fair if I had a 12 year old and they were going to glue them self to the road I’d want them to know how to do it properly.
All these 12 year olds out there not doing it right really bake my beans!!!
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over a year ago
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not."
I’d wager a bet that the last sentence, at the very least, is definitely not in any letter from any school anywhere. |
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
Great way of rendering your kids helpless to pervs..  |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not."
are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing "
Where am I saying it's a lie? |
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"We do employ some innovative teaching and learning techniques in the modern education system.....  "
I can envisage protesting being discussed or protesters being asked to talk to students. It's a hot topic after all |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing "
I don’t believe it. Is that breaking site rules? I don’t think so. |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing
Where am I saying it's a lie? "
so can I basically call out a post as bs and get away with it ? I think not or if I use the word “beliefmeter I’d get away with it |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
As a parent if you disagree with this activity. Write to the head teacher and tell them you disagree with this activity and advise then that you kids will not be participating.
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing
Where am I saying it's a lie? so can I basically call out a post as bs and get away with it ? I think not or if I use the word “beliefmeter I’d get away with it "
Your interpretation of what I wrote is clearly different to mine. I was saying that I didn't know if it was true or not. Because I genuinely don't.
I don't know which school the ops children attend, the style of teaching, what the ethos of the school is and therefore it's possible in my opinion that the children are being taught how to successfully protest.
My reference to a beliefometer is because I in recent years I have seen and heard things that I have thought can't possibly be true. They have turned out to be so |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/nov/05/do-not-encourage-pupils-to-join-climate-protests-says-draft-dfe-strategy
Would be very much against advice . I'd refuse to let my kids be involved in anything like that and they would be home all day instead |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing "
Whut ? You are thinking of the Ten Commandments.
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/nov/05/do-not-encourage-pupils-to-join-climate-protests-says-draft-dfe-strategy
Would be very much against advice . I'd refuse to let my kids be involved in anything like that and they would be home all day instead "
That's a draft policy from a year old article. Did the policy actually come into effect ? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/nov/05/do-not-encourage-pupils-to-join-climate-protests-says-draft-dfe-strategy
Would be very much against advice . I'd refuse to let my kids be involved in anything like that and they would be home all day instead
That's a draft policy from a year old article. Did the policy actually come into effect ?"
it was all that came up if you looked for anything...why would anyone want their kids learning about that anyways... |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing
Whut ? You are thinking of the Ten Commandments.
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thou shalt not glue yourself to thine road  |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
You do know a lot of kids ate hugely concerned by climate change because its probably going to impact them massively |
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*IF* This is true then personally that's shameful...
Teach kids solutions to climate change and educate them more on sustainability, that's to be applauded!!
But teaching them to be annoying irritating little cunts that disrupt our lives is not on  |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/nov/05/do-not-encourage-pupils-to-join-climate-protests-says-draft-dfe-strategy
Would be very much against advice . I'd refuse to let my kids be involved in anything like that and they would be home all day instead
That's a draft policy from a year old article. Did the policy actually come into effect ? it was all that came up if you looked for anything...why would anyone want their kids learning about that anyways... "
Beats me.... I'd like to see the full letter and see what is actually being taught. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing "
There's a rule saying we can't question something's authenticity?
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea."
100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate. |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate."
What from Extinction Rebellion ?  |
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"Now tell us what the letter really says. "
It's all true. They've been sent a list of supplies and everything Have they seen the cost of super glue at the moment!? At least the faeces for the statues and doorsteps is free... |
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"My beliefometer has been stretched, tested and found wanting in recent years and now I sometimes have no idea if my leg is being royally pulled or not. are you not breaking the site rules in basically saying the op is telling fibs ? Maybe if you don’t believe them you should say nothing
There's a rule saying we can't question something's authenticity?
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as they have admitted that they didn’t know the ins and outs of the story but still basically called it BS I was just pointing out that maybe say nothing as it’s not nice to be called a liar basically and I thought it would be against forum rules and regs it seems not and it’s cleared it up for me |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths) |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate."
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
Are you related to Essex Tom? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths) "
Sounds like part of the toolbox for leadership |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate. "
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances. |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances."
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too  |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Sounds like part of the toolbox for leadership "
They also give them biogs of characters to play and re enact certain events (miners strikes was one) and in that way learn some relevant history and how its influenced their lives.
At a time when we are removing creativity and fining students for daring to congregate... Yeah I think it's more important than ever to learn how and why they can say no (or yes). |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too "
Definitely. Daughter's school has told us they have a £60k deficit this academic year due to the unfunded increase in teacher pay, increased energy costs and covering the costs of changes made to the building to meet COVID regulations e.g. purchasing ventilation equipment. |
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Just a thought, as these disruptive protests are currently in the news. The school may be teaching the children how to protest peacefully. How strikes work, as the NHS nurses are planning. There's much to learn about protesting and it's their future why shouldn't they learn how to? Or do we want to raise a generation of doormats? And then complain they never get off their backsides and do anything? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Sounds like part of the toolbox for leadership
They also give them biogs of characters to play and re enact certain events (miners strikes was one) and in that way learn some relevant history and how its influenced their lives.
At a time when we are removing creativity and fining students for daring to congregate... Yeah I think it's more important than ever to learn how and why they can say no (or yes). "
Oh I love that |
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Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though.. |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too "
You do that at the ballot box. |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though.."
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.) |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box."
The ballot box appears to have failed us. I reject the idea that my civic engagement begins and ends with taxes and voting. |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)"
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes.. |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes.."
But you see what I mean. No need for massive deviation, ditching arithmetic to teach people how to irritate the police |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box."
Yea, because no political party has ever reneged on a promise. |
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"Now tell us what the letter really says.
It's all true. They've been sent a list of supplies and everything Have they seen the cost of super glue at the moment!? At least the faeces for the statues and doorsteps is free... "
They should use flour and water like we had to ....... we wuz poor but we had uz ways |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes..
But you see what I mean. No need for massive deviation, ditching arithmetic to teach people how to irritate the police "
To be fair the latter is more enjoyable..  |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes.."
In preparation for all those fab threads where people bring cake? |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box."
The bollock box...... yes. Let's all go and protest at the bollock box. |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes..
But you see what I mean. No need for massive deviation, ditching arithmetic to teach people how to irritate the police
To be fair the latter is more enjoyable.. "
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes..
In preparation for all those fab threads where people bring cake? "
There's cake on fabs? |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box.
The bollock box...... yes. Let's all go and protest at the bollock box."
At least the prisons are nice and warm for those just stop oil types. I hear that they are settling in nicely. |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box.
Yea, because no political party has ever reneged on a promise. "
Go back to school... Do not pass go |
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
Perhaps if the education of our future is adequately funded then the relevant section of the curriculum could elaborate on the role of peaceful protest and its role in a democracy?
Teaching kids to potentially harm themselves would be extreme in any circumstances.
I wonder if we need to protest for adequate funding in schools, too
You do that at the ballot box.
Yea, because no political party has ever reneged on a promise.
Go back to school... Do not pass go"
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes..
In preparation for all those fab threads where people bring cake?
There's cake on fabs?"
Only if the women make it... Protest that! |
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"Protest is a large part of our history so whilst it might be popular to sneer at some of the methods being currently used by some (parts of where and how are absolutely open to critique), the reasons for people protesting are extremely relevant in education and how they led to positive changes in society..
Not sure the curriculum time being given as suggested is correct though..
I don't know what the curriculum looks like, but I can see it being wrapped into history and civics.
(Hell, when I was at school we did banking and bands of tax in maths.)
We the boys did commerce and the girls did home economics..
The latter had more fun as it involved making cakes..
In preparation for all those fab threads where people bring cake?
There's cake on fabs?
Only if the women make it... Protest that! "
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I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
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"Now tell us what the letter really says.
It's all true. They've been sent a list of supplies and everything Have they seen the cost of super glue at the moment!? At least the faeces for the statues and doorsteps is free... "
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"Unless the school has its own Bridge to sit on they won't feel comfortable turning up to show them how to protest anyway....."
Maybe they'll build a bridge as part of Physics and Resistant Materials lessons? |
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"Unless the school has its own Bridge to sit on they won't feel comfortable turning up to show them how to protest anyway.....
Maybe they'll build a bridge as part of Physics and Resistant Materials lessons?"
Stem, future engineers in training. Win-win |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson? "
Nothing worse than an amateur face gluer from an unrecognised protest group.
Seems like the school is scrimping on their kids education.
I’d only want people from the best face gluing groups to teach my kids! |
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"Unless the school has its own Bridge to sit on they won't feel comfortable turning up to show them how to protest anyway.....
Maybe they'll build a bridge as part of Physics and Resistant Materials lessons?"
No time to factor that in on some real learning days |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson? "
Have they had DBS checks? |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured "
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit. |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured "
So are they bringing people in to teach them how to glue themselves to the road?
I think it's useful for students to see all aspects of life and hear varying opinions. It broadens their outlook and hopefully encourages independent thinking. |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson?
Have they had DBS checks? why do they need them ? "
To teach children? Nah, lets have pervy Pete from down the road take them for swimming lessons. |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson?
Have they had DBS checks? why do they need them ?
To teach children? Nah, lets have pervy Pete from down the road take them for swimming lessons. "
plenty of ex criminals go into schools and do talks fair point on the sex cases and I’m sure they will be all checked |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson?
Have they had DBS checks? why do they need them ?
To teach children? Nah, lets have pervy Pete from down the road take them for swimming lessons. plenty of ex criminals go into schools and do talks fair point on the sex cases and I’m sure they will be all checked "
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Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
How do you know that the groups are protest groups? It could be a charity or other group who do workshops? |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
Personally I think it's a fantastic idea. Can I donate some glue? |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
I called it out when I saw them basically calling you a liar but got shot down about it maybe it was because I called a mod out over it one rule and all that |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit. "
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
It was the “to teach children how to glue themselves to the road” bit for me. But if that’s on the letter then it’s on the letter and I’d be shocked but proven wrong.
First time I’ve been called a leftie liberal though |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. I called it out when I saw them basically calling you a liar but got shot down about it maybe it was because I called a mod out over it one rule and all that "
If you have a problem with something I have done please use the following
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
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so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder . |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
I support teaching about protest, yes.
I'm unlikely to be as far right as a leftie liberal though |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. I called it out when I saw them basically calling you a liar but got shot down about it maybe it was because I called a mod out over it one rule and all that
If you have a problem with something I have done please use the following
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I’ve no problem with you personally just called you out on what you posted maybe remove my posts in fact I’d like you to remove my posts from this thread |
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"Lots of nay sayers calling it bollocks, but only one person asked for the proof I’ve offered to send. Sounds like leftie liberals who actually think it’s a good idea but wont come out and say so, just call me a liar instead.
As i said, groups not named in the letter, so forgive my poetic licence, but it states people from outside of school are being brought in.
My child won’t be attending, my reservations were brought to the attention of the board of governors and ignored. I have made the media aware because I believe the senior staff in school have a political agenda here and that’s not right. "
You told us up thread that you didn't know who was actually coming in to school. So your OP naming particular groups and claiming children will be taught how to glue themselves to roads is untrue or at least unsubstantiated.
Perhaps you should quote the letter here rather than giving your own version of it if you want a genuine debate?
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder ."
DBS checks are needed if anyone is to be left alone with the children or people doing building/work at the school. If they’re not to be left alone then it’s not needed. (Unless it’s changed since I worked in a school) |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder ."
Not sure, has that happened? To work with children you need an enhanced check.
But then the barring and disclosure service check is only relevant on the day it was issued. |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
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If anyone plans to visits schools more than once a week (which I assume they will be doing) you have to have full checks Dbs and extended checks done now. They are not classed as a "once off" visitor as they won't be able to teach a whole year group in one go.Hence will probably return at some point |
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We both work in schools. A school can get an enhanced DBS done in around 10-14 days. But these types of people won’t be left alone with the kids at any time, same as football coaches and the school photographer. So technically they don’t need one but most schools would still do one anyway |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder .
Not sure, has that happened? To work with children you need an enhanced check.
But then the barring and disclosure service check is only relevant on the day it was issued."
I was thinking about ex criminals who go into schools and do talks on crime etc etc sure when they have a dbs check it will show up their past but seems that they still get to go in and do a talk |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
If anyone plans to visits schools more than once a week (which I assume they will be doing) you have to have full checks Dbs and extended checks done now. They are not classed as a "once off" visitor as they won't be able to teach a whole year group in one go.Hence will probably return at some point "
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder .
Not sure, has that happened? To work with children you need an enhanced check.
But then the barring and disclosure service check is only relevant on the day it was issued. I was thinking about ex criminals who go into schools and do talks on crime etc etc sure when they have a dbs check it will show up their past but seems that they still get to go in and do a talk "
A DBS does not prevent someone from working in a school. It only provides the school with information. What they choose to do with that information is up to the school. If imagine someone who had been prosecuted for shop lifting would be acceptable to most schools, but someone with a sexual offence wouldn’t. |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder .
Not sure, has that happened? To work with children you need an enhanced check.
But then the barring and disclosure service check is only relevant on the day it was issued. I was thinking about ex criminals who go into schools and do talks on crime etc etc sure when they have a dbs check it will show up their past but seems that they still get to go in and do a talk "
That's probably because the school have a visitors policy and risk assessment maybe which highlight the visit, who is at risk and the control measures taken which could mean more staff deployed during the visit
It just wouldn't be practical to DBS a one off visitor surely, so you would have procedures in place to counter it |
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"I totally understand people not believing me, I couldn’t believe it at first. And no they don’t actually name the groups they are inviting into school, but they are inviting in people from protest groups.
If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
I see, so it's people from unnamed protest groups that are teaching this road glueing lesson?
Have they had DBS checks?"
If they are accompanied by someone who is DBS Checked at all times and only visitors they don't need it do they.? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths) "
Pushing back against authority? Of course kids love it lol. Kids love underage smoking & drinking as well but I don’t think we should be teaching that to 12 year olds either |
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If someone wants to PM me I’ll take a screenshot of the letter and send it you, with the personal details obscured
You don't need to provide evidence to anyone that doesn't believe it.
I'd be unhappy with the school bringing in various groups they haven't named to the parents first as that more than likely will also mean none of them have been checked or vetted correctly prior to being invited into the school.
As part of the safety and safe guarding in schools those checks are still supposed to be done prior to any visit.
The school would have a visitors policy as part of their Safegaurding procedures no?
Our policy says visitors aren't allowed mobile phones, have to sign into visitors book with car reg date, time and reason, given a visitors pass and accompanied around the setting and never left alone with children.
so in regards to dbs checks how come some ex criminals get in what is regarded as ok and not ok obviously sex cases definitely not but what about ex lifers who’ve been in for murder ."
DBS just shows any offences. They can judge how to use the information provided and if having understood the history of any offence choose to allow them into school that is the job of safe guarding. Who better to teach kids about the dangers of drhgs than and ex user? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
As a parent if you disagree with this activity. Write to the head teacher and tell them you disagree with this activity and advise then that you kids will not be participating.
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Exactly what I would be doing |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Pushing back against authority? Of course kids love it lol. Kids love underage smoking & drinking as well but I don’t think we should be teaching that to 12 year olds either "
You've misunderstood either deliberately or accidently. He and his theatre group teach the context and encourage kids to find their voices and courage to highlight injustices and their right to protest. And yes we damn well need people to push back on "authority"....they used 4 historical examples one of which was the miners strike. Where they explore all sides of the context and why protests were relevant. Imagine we didn't do that in the assorted wars? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Pushing back against authority? Of course kids love it lol. Kids love underage smoking & drinking as well but I don’t think we should be teaching that to 12 year olds either "
and no to my knowledge no schools or visitors to schools teach or encourage children to smoke or drink. |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
As a parent if you disagree with this activity. Write to the head teacher and tell them you disagree with this activity and advise then that you kids will not be participating.
Exactly what I would be doing"
Because parents are quite rightly informed. It's the way it should work and isn't really a drama is it? A bit like sex education classes or religious activities. |
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"Just a thought, as these disruptive protests are currently in the news. The school may be teaching the children how to protest peacefully. How strikes work, as the NHS nurses are planning. There's much to learn about protesting and it's their future why shouldn't they learn how to? Or do we want to raise a generation of doormats? And then complain they never get off their backsides and do anything? "
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"I support teaching kids about how much we owe to protest. A lot of people seem not to have any idea.100% agree.
Protest is a legitimate and democratic way of making your differing views known. Teaching these skills is part of raising responsible citizens so they learn how to conduct a proper respectful discussion and debate.
What from Extinction Rebellion ? "
I did say on another thread recently that I support their mission to try and deal with climate change when so many rich and powerful organisations, countries still sleepwalk towards disaster, wholeheartedly. The only reason I am not an active member of XR is that I am not comfortable with some of methods applied. |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Pushing back against authority? Of course kids love it lol. Kids love underage smoking & drinking as well but I don’t think we should be teaching that to 12 year olds either
You've misunderstood either deliberately or accidently. He and his theatre group teach the context and encourage kids to find their voices and courage to highlight injustices and their right to protest. And yes we damn well need people to push back on "authority"....they used 4 historical examples one of which was the miners strike. Where they explore all sides of the context and why protests were relevant. Imagine we didn't do that in the assorted wars? "
Neither. I was merely pointing out that the premise stated that “the kids love it” is not a reason to do something and gave a couple of examples to demonstrate my point. I’m not saying that that’s the only reason they do it, or if it’s right or wrong. |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
Not seen that story. But my cousin goes into schools in disadvantaged areas and they "show them how to protest" but in reality they talk through those bits of history that are relevant, they help kids to find their voices and be part of society and that protest, standing up for themselves can be a legitimate part of their lives. The kids love it and learn more from those sessions than their others(straight from the kids mouths)
Pushing back against authority? Of course kids love it lol. Kids love underage smoking & drinking as well but I don’t think we should be teaching that to 12 year olds either
You've misunderstood either deliberately or accidently. He and his theatre group teach the context and encourage kids to find their voices and courage to highlight injustices and their right to protest. And yes we damn well need people to push back on "authority"....they used 4 historical examples one of which was the miners strike. Where they explore all sides of the context and why protests were relevant. Imagine we didn't do that in the assorted wars?
Neither. I was merely pointing out that the premise stated that “the kids love it” is not a reason to do something and gave a couple of examples to demonstrate my point. I’m not saying that that’s the only reason they do it, or if it’s right or wrong. "
Slightly confused... Where did anyone say the reason to do it is because kids love it? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
wow look at the schools showing real enciative ( I should have learned to spell at school ) and keeping the protesters off the road and in the classroom
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road. "
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it. "
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it. "
I did say later in the thread that I’d used a certain amount of poetic licence in naming possible external groups. But does it really matter which group it is? My point is they are bringing in people with extremist views to talk to very impressionable 12-13yo kids.
They don’t call them the formative years for nothing |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it.
I did say later in the thread that I’d used a certain amount of poetic licence in naming possible external groups. But does it really matter which group it is? My point is they are bringing in people with extremist views to talk to very impressionable 12-13yo kids.
They don’t call them the formative years for nothing "
depends who the group is and what they teach. Maybe it's a group that is against extreme protests and they teach how to write stern letters to the press and local MPs.
Imo we either seek to educate in a sensible and adult manner ... Or we let them way Stop Oil on a tictoc feed and they can form their own views... |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it. "
That sounds excellent. I hope the kids get lots out of it. |
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My kids have learnt about different protestors in primary school. Everything from the suffragettes, Martin Luther king, the Rebecca riots to the Welsh protest song "Yma o Hyd". I don't think they've got extremist views whatsoever. I personally want my children to question the environment they grow up in. And see how people can strive for change for a better lives and equality.
This thread kind of reminds me of Helen Lovejoy in the Simpsons "won't someone please think of the children?" |
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"My kids have learnt about different protestors in primary school. Everything from the suffragettes, Martin Luther king, the Rebecca riots to the Welsh protest song "Yma o Hyd". I don't think they've got extremist views whatsoever. I personally want my children to question the environment they grow up in. And see how people can strive for change for a better lives and equality.
This thread kind of reminds me of Helen Lovejoy in the Simpsons "won't someone please think of the children?" "
Again.... this! |
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"My kids have learnt about different protestors in primary school. Everything from the suffragettes, Martin Luther king, the Rebecca riots to the Welsh protest song "Yma o Hyd". I don't think they've got extremist views whatsoever. I personally want my children to question the environment they grow up in. And see how people can strive for change for a better lives and equality.
This thread kind of reminds me of Helen Lovejoy in the Simpsons "won't someone please think of the children?" "
A broken toilet seat in a country town led to educational reform in Australia.
The Freedom Ride in Australia.
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it.
I did say later in the thread that I’d used a certain amount of poetic licence in naming possible external groups. But does it really matter which group it is? My point is they are bringing in people with extremist views to talk to very impressionable 12-13yo kids.
They don’t call them the formative years for nothing "
Can you send me a pic of the letter please? |
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"Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them how to protest. They are bringing in people from extinction rebellion and insulate Britain to teach 12 year olds how to glue themselves to the road.
having seen the letter I'd say that's a bit of a miss representation.
There is no mention of who the external group is or what that session would look like. And it appears to be one session in a day of wider education ... WG looking at historical protests and power dynamics.
Had a letter home from school. They are giving year 8 (12-13yo) kids a day off from their normal lessons to teach them about protests. They are bringing in an external group to run a session as part of it.
I did say later in the thread that I’d used a certain amount of poetic licence in naming possible external groups. But does it really matter which group it is? My point is they are bringing in people with extremist views to talk to very impressionable 12-13yo kids.
They don’t call them the formative years for nothing "
Did the letter say they had extremist views or is that also poetic license? |
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Lots of schools have days where they look at specific issues so it is not beyond the realms of possibility they are having A-day looking at activism ect... however it is exceptionally unlikely you had a letter saying your children were going to be taught how to protest. |
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