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"King Tutankhamen " Egyptian | |||
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"Mo Salah" Egyptian! | |||
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"Prince Naseem. " He was born in Sheffield | |||
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"Jesus" A jew | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian " Which these days is Arab. | |||
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"Jesus A jew" That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. " Since when has north Africa been Arab?? | |||
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"Prince Naseem. He was born in Sheffield" If he claimed he was English, you'd get people saying he wasn't. Claim he's Arab you get people saying he was born in Sheffield. Welcome to my world. Still of Arab descent. | |||
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"Saddam Hussein. " INfamous Arab. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab??" It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state" Mizrahi Jews are from Arab states | |||
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"Keanu Reeves (born in Beirut) Paul Anka (whose parents were both Lebanese)" Dom Jolly? | |||
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"Keanu Reeves (born in Beirut) Paul Anka (whose parents were both Lebanese) Dom Jolly?" Lebanon.. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab??" 7 of the 22 North African countries are Arab. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. " Well, it literally really isn't...  | |||
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"Prince Naseem. He was born in Sheffield If he claimed he was English, you'd get people saying he wasn't. Claim he's Arab you get people saying he was born in Sheffield. Welcome to my world. Still of Arab descent. " If he's born in Sheffield he's English | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab??" Most of north africa is considered part of the Arab World...including the Sudan, Egypt, Tunisia, Somalia, Syria..to name a few | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state" Arabs came into the area 7th c AD. In 1st century it was part of the Eastern med hellenistic thing.. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian " So was Omar Sharif in the opening post | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian So was Omar Sharif in the opening post" Ah yes but big difference Egypt 20th century and thousand years before Christ. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't... "Err, yes it is. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is. "Geographically it is North Africa....so not | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is. "Literally the first thing on the Wiki page "Egypt , officially the Arab Republic of Egypt" | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state" | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not "It has Arab in their name. I don't know how they can make it any clearer really. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not "Like Turkey, it too is transcontinental. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not
It has Arab in their name. I don't know how they can make it any clearer really. "It's clear enough...except to know-it-alls. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not
It has Arab in their name. I don't know how they can make it any clearer really. "Jumhuriyat Mi?r al-?Arabiyah You don't have to do any reaserch to know what the last word is. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Literally the first thing on the Wiki page
"Egypt , officially the Arab Republic of Egypt""Which was apparently 1971, strangely the same year OPEC was formed....what a coincidence | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Literally the first thing on the Wiki page
"Egypt , officially the Arab Republic of Egypt"
Which was apparently 1971, strangely the same year OPEC was formed....what a coincidence "OPEC was formed in 1960. But I'll leave this pointless discussion now. | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not
It has Arab in their name. I don't know how they can make it any clearer really. "I dont think he's listening. Its been an Arab state since the 7th Century, after it was conquered by Muslim Arabs. But, im sure i read somewhere that despite it being considered an Arab State...Egyptians arent considered to be Arabs. I think we need Google to verify | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Literally the first thing on the Wiki page
"Egypt , officially the Arab Republic of Egypt"
Which was apparently 1971, strangely the same year OPEC was formed....what a coincidence "Egypt arent in OPEC!!! | |||
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"King Tutankhamen Egyptian Which these days is Arab. Since when has north Africa been Arab?? It's literally called the Arab Republic of Egypt. North Africa is considered Arab, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Well, it literally really isn't...
Err, yes it is.
Geographically it is North Africa....so not
It has Arab in their name. I don't know how they can make it any clearer really.
I dont think he's listening.
Its been an Arab state since the 7th Century, after it was conquered by Muslim Arabs.
But, im sure i read somewhere that despite it being considered an Arab State...Egyptians arent considered to be Arabs.
I think we need Google to verify"Oh I am listening, I'm just entertained by a now livened up argument. Be me right or wrong its amused me | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state" Say what now ? Arabs and Jews are distinct ethic groups and identities and Jesus (if he existed) was certainly a Jew. Palestine during his lifetime was not an 'Arab State' ! | |||
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"Wasn't former US president denigrated for being of Arab extraction, or have I misread that one?" Which president ? | |||
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"Wasn't former US president denigrated for being of Arab extraction, or have I misread that one? Which president ?" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state Say what now ? Arabs and Jews are distinct ethic groups and identities and Jesus (if he existed) was certainly a Jew. Palestine during his lifetime was not an 'Arab State' ! " Nazareth is the largest Arab City in Israel | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state Say what now ? Arabs and Jews are distinct ethic groups and identities and Jesus (if he existed) was certainly a Jew. Palestine during his lifetime was not an 'Arab State' ! Nazareth is the largest Arab City in Israel" Also a fine rock band. | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state Say what now ? Arabs and Jews are distinct ethic groups and identities and Jesus (if he existed) was certainly a Jew. Palestine during his lifetime was not an 'Arab State' ! Nazareth is the largest Arab City in Israel Also a fine rock band." Jesus played bass...he rocked the casbah every Thursday | |||
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"I’ve worked in Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, travelled through Egypt often, if they’re not Arabs then perhaps somebody should tell them since they all seem to think they are and they’re all a part of the LoAS. The League of Arab States was founded in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Yemen, and has since grown to include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, the Sudan, and various smaller states like Kuwait for example. Arabs. " I just googled it. And despite Egypt being an Arab state, Egyptians arent considered as Arabs. They speak Arabic and are Muslim, but they are not Arabs. Ive got no idea how that works!!!! Please feel free to Google it...and find either evidence to confirm this, or to counter it. Its actually quite interesting | |||
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"Mohammed Fayed, ex owner of Harrods He's Egyptian (north African) "OPs opening post was Omar Sheriff - Egyptian | |||
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"I’ve worked in Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, travelled through Egypt often, if they’re not Arabs then perhaps somebody should tell them since they all seem to think they are and they’re all a part of the LoAS. The League of Arab States was founded in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Yemen, and has since grown to include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, the Sudan, and various smaller states like Kuwait for example. Arabs. I just googled it. And despite Egypt being an Arab state, Egyptians arent considered as Arabs. They speak Arabic and are Muslim, but they are not Arabs. Ive got no idea how that works!!!! Please feel free to Google it...and find either evidence to confirm this, or to counter it. Its actually quite interesting " Praise Allah!! | |||
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"The Black Arabs was the original name of Bristol Rovers football club " Not exactly famous tho are they | |||
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"The Black Arabs was the original name of Bristol Rovers football club " You told us this 12 minutes ago ! | |||
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"Mohammed Fayed, ex owner of Harrods He's Egyptian (north African)
OPs opening post was Omar Sheriff - Egyptian"I've not read the OP properly! I was going for Middle Eastern..... It depends which Egyptian you speak to, as to whether they think themselves to be Arabs. Egyptian is a pretty distinct racial group in itself, quite different to most Middle Eastern Arabs. Omar Sharif was and Mr Alfayed are Egyptian. | |||
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"Laurence of Arabia " Dude he was English! | |||
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"I’ve worked in Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, travelled through Egypt often, if they’re not Arabs then perhaps somebody should tell them since they all seem to think they are and they’re all a part of the LoAS. The League of Arab States was founded in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Yemen, and has since grown to include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, the Sudan, and various smaller states like Kuwait for example. Arabs. I just googled it. And despite Egypt being an Arab state, Egyptians arent considered as Arabs. They speak Arabic and are Muslim, but they are not Arabs. Ive got no idea how that works!!!! Please feel free to Google it...and find either evidence to confirm this, or to counter it. Its actually quite interesting " Officially, Egypt is part of the Arab League, along with 22 other countries. The Egyptians who call themselves none Arab are Egyptians who oppose the Arabization of their country. Since Egypt isn't originally Arab, there was an indigenous identity that kind of disappeared as the Islamic Invasions occurred. That’s why. I dare anybody to go and tell the everyday person on the street that they’re not an Arab. | |||
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"I’ve worked in Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, travelled through Egypt often, if they’re not Arabs then perhaps somebody should tell them since they all seem to think they are and they’re all a part of the LoAS. The League of Arab States was founded in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Yemen, and has since grown to include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, the Sudan, and various smaller states like Kuwait for example. Arabs. I just googled it. And despite Egypt being an Arab state, Egyptians arent considered as Arabs. They speak Arabic and are Muslim, but they are not Arabs. Ive got no idea how that works!!!! Please feel free to Google it...and find either evidence to confirm this, or to counter it. Its actually quite interesting Praise Allah!! "Bit premature chief. | |||
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"Uri Geller Dont bend the rules." Who snuck that in? | |||
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"I’ve worked in Libya, Morocco and Tunisia, travelled through Egypt often, if they’re not Arabs then perhaps somebody should tell them since they all seem to think they are and they’re all a part of the LoAS. The League of Arab States was founded in 1945 by Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan and Yemen, and has since grown to include Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, the Sudan, and various smaller states like Kuwait for example. Arabs. I just googled it. And despite Egypt being an Arab state, Egyptians arent considered as Arabs. They speak Arabic and are Muslim, but they are not Arabs. Ive got no idea how that works!!!! Please feel free to Google it...and find either evidence to confirm this, or to counter it. Its actually quite interesting Praise Allah!!
Bit premature chief."SILENCE, I kill you! | |||
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"Is that genie in a lamp chap one...? Dont bust my balls, it's only a wild guess " Will Smith?? | |||
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"Is that genie in a lamp chap one...? Dont bust my balls, it's only a wild guess " Depends if he was from Egypt or not | |||
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"Is that genie in a lamp chap one...? Dont bust my balls, it's only a wild guess Will Smith??" No the genie | |||
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"Well done for posting that " Egypt was forced to Arabize by the Ummayad Caliphate." That would explain a lot! And why there is such confusion and polictical sway." Your welcome | |||
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"Mo Salah Egyptian!" African actually! | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. " Wee man you’ve been googling! | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. " Not my words, it's the words of an Egyptian who placed the statement on Quora, don't go shooting the messenger | |||
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"A statement on Quora by Hesham hassaneim, a student of Egyptian Hisory and Culture ARE EGYPTIANS really ARABS No. We are not Arabs. Although Egyptians have been brainwashed by multiple governments into thinking this way, with Sadat’s government going so far as renaming the country the Arab Republic of Egypt, this is simply not true. There are many ways I can explain this. But I’ll choose three. Genetics, history and culture. Genetics. Multiple studies have been done on the genetic history of the modern Egyptians. And you know what they all concluded? Egyptians are not Arabs. Now you really should NOT take the word of a random stranger online when it comes to research, so I leave you with some links that can help you do some private research if you so choose.DNA analysis proves that Egyptians are not Arabs - Egypt IndependentNational Geographic's DNA Analysis Concludes that Egyptians are Only 17% ArabHistory. The Arabs that came to Egypt were soldiers. There was never a mass migration of Arabs into Egypt. There was never a mass exodus of Egyptians out of Egypt. Such an event would have been noted down in Arab history, Egyptian history, or any country that suddenly had a massive influx of immigrants from Egypt. Not to mention that the size of the Arab people was simply nothing in comparison to the size of the Egyptian people. Even if every single person who was living in the Arabian peninsula moved to Egypt, they still would have been a minority. And we know that didn’t happen. Egypt saw Arab soldiers move there. There was never a mass migration of Arabs into Egypt, there was never a mass exodus out of Egypt, there was never a mass holocaust of the Egyptian people.Culture. Some people will point to the fact that Egyptians speak Arabic as evidence that Egyptians are Arabs. Unfortunately, that’s not how genetics work. When I learned Spanish in college it did not change my genetic makeup and turn me into a Spaniard. I speak English as my native language - that doesn’t make me an Englishman. Egypt was forced to Arabize by the Ummayad Caliphate. That doesn’t make them Arabs, any more than how the Natives of Mexico were forced to learn Spanish. But don’t go telling any Mayans that they’re really Spaniards.More on culture, Egyptian culture is more influenced by Turkish culture than it is by Arab culture. Have you ever studied Arab culture? Compare the Gulf to the Egyptians. The culture is so different. From music, to dress codes. The way people talk, the social norms. Egyptians are nothing like the Arabs. However our culture was heavily influenced by Islam, although it wasn’t until I started learning about Turkey that I realized that our culture takes from the Turks, not the Arabs. And it makes sense. Egypt’s ruling family, the Muhammad Ali dynasty, they were Ottomans. And they founded Egypt’s modern state. The Ottomans/Turks made up, for a long time, Egypt’s ruling class. Movies, music, culture. It was influenced by them. The Arab were soldiers. In short, Egyptians are not Arabs. Egyptians have been programmed to repeat that line “we’re Arabs” by successive governments vying for power and control. But it is a lie. It was based on the political aspirations of a military desperate to create a super power in the Middle East and North Africa - look up the United Arab Republic. It was a dream of a dictator. And the military used their dream of a superpower to brainwash a nation into forgetting who they are. But with the influx of information online today, the Egyptian people have started to reject this lie and are accepting themselves for who they are. Not Arabs, but Egyptians. Unique in their heritage. A people on our own. Not a part of any colonial Arab state. Calling myself an Arab would be like calling myself English or French. All three colonized Egypt. But we are not the descendants of any of them. I hope that cleared that up. " The grammar is appalling? | |||
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"A statement on Quora by Hesham hassaneim, a student of Egyptian Hisory and Culture ARE EGYPTIANS really ARABS No. We are not Arabs. Although Egyptians have been brainwashed by multiple governments into thinking this way, with Sadat’s government going so far as renaming the country the Arab Republic of Egypt, this is simply not true. There are many ways I can explain this. But I’ll choose three. Genetics, history and culture. Genetics. Multiple studies have been done on the genetic history of the modern Egyptians. And you know what they all concluded? Egyptians are not Arabs. Now you really should NOT take the word of a random stranger online when it comes to research, so I leave you with some links that can help you do some private research if you so choose.DNA analysis proves that Egyptians are not Arabs - Egypt IndependentNational Geographic's DNA Analysis Concludes that Egyptians are Only 17% ArabHistory. The Arabs that came to Egypt were soldiers. There was never a mass migration of Arabs into Egypt. There was never a mass exodus of Egyptians out of Egypt. Such an event would have been noted down in Arab history, Egyptian history, or any country that suddenly had a massive influx of immigrants from Egypt. Not to mention that the size of the Arab people was simply nothing in comparison to the size of the Egyptian people. Even if every single person who was living in the Arabian peninsula moved to Egypt, they still would have been a minority. And we know that didn’t happen. Egypt saw Arab soldiers move there. There was never a mass migration of Arabs into Egypt, there was never a mass exodus out of Egypt, there was never a mass holocaust of the Egyptian people.Culture. Some people will point to the fact that Egyptians speak Arabic as evidence that Egyptians are Arabs. Unfortunately, that’s not how genetics work. When I learned Spanish in college it did not change my genetic makeup and turn me into a Spaniard. I speak English as my native language - that doesn’t make me an Englishman. Egypt was forced to Arabize by the Ummayad Caliphate. That doesn’t make them Arabs, any more than how the Natives of Mexico were forced to learn Spanish. But don’t go telling any Mayans that they’re really Spaniards.More on culture, Egyptian culture is more influenced by Turkish culture than it is by Arab culture. Have you ever studied Arab culture? Compare the Gulf to the Egyptians. The culture is so different. From music, to dress codes. The way people talk, the social norms. Egyptians are nothing like the Arabs. However our culture was heavily influenced by Islam, although it wasn’t until I started learning about Turkey that I realized that our culture takes from the Turks, not the Arabs. And it makes sense. Egypt’s ruling family, the Muhammad Ali dynasty, they were Ottomans. And they founded Egypt’s modern state. The Ottomans/Turks made up, for a long time, Egypt’s ruling class. Movies, music, culture. It was influenced by them. The Arab were soldiers. In short, Egyptians are not Arabs. Egyptians have been programmed to repeat that line “we’re Arabs” by successive governments vying for power and control. But it is a lie. It was based on the political aspirations of a military desperate to create a super power in the Middle East and North Africa - look up the United Arab Republic. It was a dream of a dictator. And the military used their dream of a superpower to brainwash a nation into forgetting who they are. But with the influx of information online today, the Egyptian people have started to reject this lie and are accepting themselves for who they are. Not Arabs, but Egyptians. Unique in their heritage. A people on our own. Not a part of any colonial Arab state. Calling myself an Arab would be like calling myself English or French. All three colonized Egypt. But we are not the descendants of any of them. I hope that cleared that up. The grammar is appalling?" Shit, you better give him a fail | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling!" I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all "You are very random. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Not my words, it's the words of an Egyptian who placed the statement on Quora, don't go shooting the messenger " That one Egyptian, compared to the overwhelming Arab Egyptians. Fair enough. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random."Pot kettle black. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black."Well perhaps wee man perhaps? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black.
Well perhaps wee man perhaps?"Alright pops, bed time now. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black.
Well perhaps wee man perhaps?
Alright pops, bed time now."Ovaltine is on ..........night | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. " It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black.
Well perhaps wee man perhaps?
Alright pops, bed time now.
Ovaltine is on ..........night "Blocked? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian." A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it?" Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it?" Its not a simplification at all, it's a statement of fact from a student of Egyptian history and culture | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian." That live in an Arab state. With plenty of Arabs and people that refer to themselves as Arabs. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black.
Well perhaps wee man perhaps?
Alright pops, bed time now.
Ovaltine is on ..........night
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. That live in an Arab state. With plenty of Arabs and people that refer to themselves as Arabs. " Dunno, but our Egyptian students are quite distinct and are very keen to share their Egyptian culture, they don't naturally gravitate to the Middle Eastern Arab students actually. Yes, they all speak Arabic and most (not all) share the Islamic faith, but most of the Iberian peninsula was occupied by Islamic people until as 1492 but I wager few modern Spaniards (esp. southern Spaniards) identify with that? Arabic influence in Egypt is, as other said, more cultural and linguistic rather than embedded in their genetics. I might ask some of our students more directly off the back of this | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance?" Shots fired.
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"Achmed the dead terrorist" Arab? Nah he's more Arabica, toasted like a coffee bean. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance?" Yes I would actually. | |||
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"Achmed the dead terrorist Arab? Nah he's more Arabica, toasted like a coffee bean." Even Arabica coffee beans aren't Arabic!!!! They originate in modern day Ethiopia and crossed the Red Sea to modern day Yemen (on the Arabian peninsula). Hence the name. But they're actually Ethiopica beans! | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. Wee man you’ve been googling! I googled “white guy on fab?”. Sure
Oh you mean the percentage of DNA in Egypt that’s arab?
Well yeah, it’s not a number I just sit and recite to myself for no reason at all
You are very random.
Pot kettle black.
Well perhaps wee man perhaps?
Alright pops, bed time now.
Ovaltine is on ..........night
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"Achmed the dead terrorist Arab? Nah he's more Arabica, toasted like a coffee bean. Even Arabica coffee beans aren't Arabic!!!! They originate in modern day Ethiopia and crossed the Red Sea to modern day Yemen (on the Arabian peninsula). Hence the name. But they're actually Ethiopica beans! " All this over a ventriloquist dummy. Really? Fab really has lost marbles tonight | |||
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"Achmed the dead terrorist Arab? Nah he's more Arabica, toasted like a coffee bean. Even Arabica coffee beans aren't Arabic!!!! They originate in modern day Ethiopia and crossed the Red Sea to modern day Yemen (on the Arabian peninsula). Hence the name. But they're actually Ethiopica beans! All this over a ventriloquist dummy. Really? Fab really has lost marbles tonight" Just tonight? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance? Yes I would actually." So Y chromosomes: Biggest single haplogroup is E1b1b (aka the "Adam" signature). Originated in North Africa/Horn of Africa and is typified by the SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism) M215. This is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in Africa. Other high Y chromosome frequeny in Egyptian men is the J haplogroup - origins in the Caucasus, Anatolia, Levant area. Aka the Ottoman Empire. Basically the Egyptian Y chromosome is African and Ottoman (unsurprising, given the geographical location and history of Egypt). mtDNA: There's two major mtDNA lineages in modern Egypt. Approximately correlate to either a "Northern" or "Southern" division, with the Northern mtDNA having most conserved sequences with mtDNA from the Eurasian mtDNA groups (similar to the whole Ottoman Empire link as the Y chromosome). The Southern mtDNA is most closely associated with sub Saharan African ethnic groups and the Nubian groups. Take home message - Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. Not really a shock, no? | |||
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"Achmed the dead terrorist Arab? Nah he's more Arabica, toasted like a coffee bean. Even Arabica coffee beans aren't Arabic!!!! They originate in modern day Ethiopia and crossed the Red Sea to modern day Yemen (on the Arabian peninsula). Hence the name. But they're actually Ethiopica beans! All this over a ventriloquist dummy. Really? Fab really has lost marbles tonight" Awwwww but I like this fact. I like it that the beans are called Arabica because we white people "discovered" them somewhere in the Arabian peninsula but that actually, they came from somewhere else originally. I'm a boring old biologist and find that sort of thing interesting. | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance? Yes I would actually. So Y chromosomes: Biggest single haplogroup is E1b1b (aka the "Adam" signature). Originated in North Africa/Horn of Africa and is typified by the SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism) M215. This is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in Africa. Other high Y chromosome frequeny in Egyptian men is the J haplogroup - origins in the Caucasus, Anatolia, Levant area. Aka the Ottoman Empire. Basically the Egyptian Y chromosome is African and Ottoman (unsurprising, given the geographical location and history of Egypt). mtDNA: There's two major mtDNA lineages in modern Egypt. Approximately correlate to either a "Northern" or "Southern" division, with the Northern mtDNA having most conserved sequences with mtDNA from the Eurasian mtDNA groups (similar to the whole Ottoman Empire link as the Y chromosome). The Southern mtDNA is most closely associated with sub Saharan African ethnic groups and the Nubian groups. Take home message - Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. Not really a shock, no? " Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. But not Egyptians? | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance? Yes I would actually. So Y chromosomes: Biggest single haplogroup is E1b1b (aka the "Adam" signature). Originated in North Africa/Horn of Africa and is typified by the SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism) M215. This is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in Africa. Other high Y chromosome frequeny in Egyptian men is the J haplogroup - origins in the Caucasus, Anatolia, Levant area. Aka the Ottoman Empire. Basically the Egyptian Y chromosome is African and Ottoman (unsurprising, given the geographical location and history of Egypt). mtDNA: There's two major mtDNA lineages in modern Egypt. Approximately correlate to either a "Northern" or "Southern" division, with the Northern mtDNA having most conserved sequences with mtDNA from the Eurasian mtDNA groups (similar to the whole Ottoman Empire link as the Y chromosome). The Southern mtDNA is most closely associated with sub Saharan African ethnic groups and the Nubian groups. Take home message - Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. Not really a shock, no? Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. But not Egyptians?" That combo makes modern Egypt. Just like the average British person has a relatively unique mix of DNA that distinguishes us, say, from the French, despite the French people being geographically close. Some of us (like me) have random dollops of less typical DNA - I have a dollop of Ashkenazi Jewish DNA that is atypical of the average Brit for example, but is testament to the immigration of my Great Grandfather. You can distinguish English, Welsh and Scottish DNA signatures if you look hard enough. The average Egyptian is a genetic mixture of North African and Ottoman-origin DNA. That is not the same as adjacent countries, e.g. Sudan and is also not the same as most Middle Eastern Arabs either. | |||
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"PS: there's no such thing as a "British" DNA signature. Britain being constantly invaded over the centuries and receiving big waves of immigration from far and wide means lots of different things make up the British. Egypt has, to not quite the same extent, been invaded and occupied over the centuries. Some countries had/have far less variation due to limited immigration and less invasion from distinct ethnic groups. Anyway, I'll put my biology brain to bed now because I'm sure it's very boring. " Egypt was invaded by Sea Peoples, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Arab... | |||
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"Arabization of Egypt was more cultural than genetic, you can’t change genetics, the 17% of the population that are Arab by genetics would still be pretty offended that some random white geezer on FAB has declared them not Arabs. Then there’s the rather high percentage that consider themselves Arab culturally. But, if a white guy on Fab has decided their not Arab then who are they to question it… whilst living in an Arab state, that’s a founding member of the league of Arab states. It's not 17% of Egyptians have Arab DNA. It means that if you examine the DNA of an average Egyptian, about 17% of the total is of Arab derivation. The other 83% is "other" origin. It's a bit like a British person who's lived in Basingstoke their whole life, doing a DNA test and finding 17% Viking DNA. It doesn't make them Viking. Egypt is a curious cross cultural melting pot, a bit like us here in the UK. It's quite distinct to any other country, either in North Africa or elsewhere. Egyptian people are Egyptian. A bit of a simplification but let’s run with it? Would you like me to elaborate on Y chromosome mapping and mitochondrial DNA inheritance? Yes I would actually. So Y chromosomes: Biggest single haplogroup is E1b1b (aka the "Adam" signature). Originated in North Africa/Horn of Africa and is typified by the SNP (single nucleotide polymorphism) M215. This is the most common Y chromosome haplogroup in Africa. Other high Y chromosome frequeny in Egyptian men is the J haplogroup - origins in the Caucasus, Anatolia, Levant area. Aka the Ottoman Empire. Basically the Egyptian Y chromosome is African and Ottoman (unsurprising, given the geographical location and history of Egypt). mtDNA: There's two major mtDNA lineages in modern Egypt. Approximately correlate to either a "Northern" or "Southern" division, with the Northern mtDNA having most conserved sequences with mtDNA from the Eurasian mtDNA groups (similar to the whole Ottoman Empire link as the Y chromosome). The Southern mtDNA is most closely associated with sub Saharan African ethnic groups and the Nubian groups. Take home message - Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. Not really a shock, no? Egyptians are predominantly ethnically Ottoman and North African. But not Egyptians? That combo makes modern Egypt. Just like the average British person has a relatively unique mix of DNA that distinguishes us, say, from the French, despite the French people being geographically close. Some of us (like me) have random dollops of less typical DNA - I have a dollop of Ashkenazi Jewish DNA that is atypical of the average Brit for example, but is testament to the immigration of my Great Grandfather. You can distinguish English, Welsh and Scottish DNA signatures if you look hard enough. The average Egyptian is a genetic mixture of North African and Ottoman-origin DNA. That is not the same as adjacent countries, e.g. Sudan and is also not the same as most Middle Eastern Arabs either. " So if you walk like an Egyptian you’re ok? | |||
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"PS: there's no such thing as a "British" DNA signature. Britain being constantly invaded over the centuries and receiving big waves of immigration from far and wide means lots of different things make up the British. Egypt has, to not quite the same extent, been invaded and occupied over the centuries. Some countries had/have far less variation due to limited immigration and less invasion from distinct ethnic groups. Anyway, I'll put my biology brain to bed now because I'm sure it's very boring. " Mildly I would say if a little contradictory! | |||
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"PS: there's no such thing as a "British" DNA signature. Britain being constantly invaded over the centuries and receiving big waves of immigration from far and wide means lots of different things make up the British. Egypt has, to not quite the same extent, been invaded and occupied over the centuries. Some countries had/have far less variation due to limited immigration and less invasion from distinct ethnic groups. Anyway, I'll put my biology brain to bed now because I'm sure it's very boring. Egypt was invaded by Sea Peoples, Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Arab..." Indeed, but modern Egyptians reflect predominantly what I've discussed. Of course, the Roman Empire covered vast swathes of Europe and lots of other places and the Phonecians and others got all over the place too. Those "invasions" are reflected in the predominantly "Ottoman Empire" and "North and Sub Saharan African" ethnic connections. Interesting DNA analysis of mummified ancient Egyptians reflect a pretty different ethnic make up. What I'm trying to say is that the typical Egyptian genetic makeup is distinct from the average Middle Eastern Arab and also distinct from the ethnic groups nearby to Egypt. They have a much greater diversity in ethnic origins, hence the argument that to be "Egyptian" is distinct in itself. It makes sense, because of Egypt's location and history, as I said. It's on the crossroads between Africa, the Med and the Arabian peninsula and so you'd expect a diverse genetic heritage. | |||
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"Lawrence, of.. He was English" No he wasn’t he was Welsh born in Tremadog | |||
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"I want to be the famous Arab from Fab lol " Can you please submit your application to gr8str8 and your swab to KC for DNA analysis to see if you allowed. | |||
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"Omid Djalili" Born in Chelsea | |||
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"Omid Djalili Born in Chelsea" Yeah to Persian/Iranian parents. | |||
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"Omar Sharif" He was Egyptian. | |||
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"Arab C Nesbit" | |||
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"Omar Sharif He was Egyptian. " Egypt is in Africa. | |||
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"Arabic women are beautiful. Not sure why but as they age from 30-50 they seem to become even more gorgeous compared to other ethnicities like south or south East Asian , Africa. And European. Don’t know any famous ones " There could be a reason for that but at least they are beautiful. | |||
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"Omar Sharif He was Egyptian. Egypt is in Africa." So he's African then ..... ( we both know he isn't ) and he's not an arab either | |||
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"The famous Arab polymath, who is more commonly known as Omar Khayyam: a genius who is largely unknown in the western world, but who is revered amongst his own people." He liked the company so much.. He bought it | |||
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"Great thread!" Some genuinely interesting healthy informative debate on this thread, isnt there. (Ignore the few tantrums). Although it strayed quite a lot from the actual original topic. | |||
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"Omar Sharif He was Egyptian. Egypt is in Africa. So he's African then ..... ( we both know he isn't ) and he's not an arab either" Mo Salah was African Footballer of the year. | |||
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"Jesus A jew That may as well be, but at that time Israel was an Arab state Say what now ? Arabs and Jews are distinct ethic groups and identities and Jesus (if he existed) was certainly a Jew. Palestine during his lifetime was not an 'Arab State' ! Nazareth is the largest Arab City in Israel Also a fine rock band." Desmond dekker? | |||
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