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over a year ago
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
exactly the bullshit excuse makes no sense theres much more going on that meets the eyes its like bullshit transformers out there
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.
Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.
It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods. |
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
Exactly! So to justify a 300 per cent increase... In energy costs. That 4% must have increased a shit load. Its complete profiteering and politicking... Same as the cost of diesel.... There's no reason at all why diesel is so pricy now. The crude oil price is lower now than whe. It was 130 a litre. |
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.
Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.
It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods. "
Same as carbon neutral bollocks. What does that even mean lying fuckers. |
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I think there are a number of things at play and these are only my opinions
Putin knew years ago what he was going to do and built up his finances by letting the west get reliant on him
Secondly we got rid of the existing coal and some of the gas fired powerstations way too quickly mainly due to the LCPD before we had enough renewable to smooth the transition over
And finally we are sitting on huge stockpiles of coal but we would rather import it from halfway round the world and make other people rich.
Now if only the can scale up nuclear fusion which looks like it could be in the 2050s then we would be in a great place.
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis
There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.
Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.
It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods. "
Electricity is generated using Wind Farms,Solar Panel Farms, Coal, Biomass,Nuclear, and Natural Gas it is all fed into the National Grid, 3 of these are what I would call renewable although Biomass is debatable. How any one energy supplier can claim to use only renewable electricity is open to question.
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
Simple.
We don't buy much from them but Europe does. And as Europe can't buy from Russia at the moment they need to hold on to stocks that they'd usually sell to us, meaning our supply has been cut and there's less fuel to go round. Supply doesn't meet demand and therefore prices rise.
Add in the fact that another major issue is storage and transport costs come into play. Unfortunately the Tories closed down many of the storage facilities and mothballed others rather than maintain them so we have storage issues on top too.
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"Why are the supplier profits up when they claim its more expensive for them to buy?"
The most expensive method of generating electricity is using gas, The Generating companies base their prices on this despite the fact that the 40% which comes from renewables cost much less to produce, every sunny day and windy day is a bonus day for the Generators but not the consumers. |
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Wholesale energy prices are calculated on the cost of the last supplier bid to be accepted. That is currently gas. As gas is so high everyone else gets paid the price it costs to buy gas - hence an energy crisis. |
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Strangely the one set of energy producers who are not making big profits are the gas power stations. Everyone else (renewable etc) are absolutely coining it in because their costs are so much lower. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
Because we are competing with the other countries who are also affected and the supply is generally around the level of demand in order to hold the pricing stable.
Aka global capitalism. |
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"Electricity is generated using Wind Farms,Solar Panel Farms, Coal, Biomass,Nuclear, and Natural Gas it is all fed into the National Grid, 3 of these are what I would call renewable although Biomass is debatable. How any one energy supplier can claim to use only renewable electricity is open to question.
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It was always obvious there's only one cable coming into the house but I did expect there was some effort at accounting for whether your bills really were supporting the sources they claimed. Evidently not.
I saw a graphic a few days back showing the change over time of UK sources. Essentially demonstrating that in recent years all we've really done is moved from coal... to gas. |
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"Electricity is generated using Wind Farms,Solar Panel Farms, Coal, Biomass,Nuclear, and Natural Gas it is all fed into the National Grid, 3 of these are what I would call renewable although Biomass is debatable. How any one energy supplier can claim to use only renewable electricity is open to question.
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It was always obvious there's only one cable coming into the house but I did expect there was some effort at accounting for whether your bills really were supporting the sources they claimed. Evidently not.
I saw a graphic a few days back showing the change over time of UK sources. Essentially demonstrating that in recent years all we've really done is moved from coal... to gas."
All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise. |
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
You may have noticed that the pound tanked recently, to an all time low against the dollar. Oil is traded in dollars. That's the single biggest hit for us. Europe use more Russian fuels, but the Euro hasn't tanked... |
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"All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise."
That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.
Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans. |
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OPEC have also cut oil production by two million barrels to reverse the slump in the value of oil. This is knocking into the general fuels availability pricing structure. Also remember that commodities are priced in dollars and we just suffered a fairly catastrophic slide against that currency after Boris was ousted and the markets didn't like the replacement. |
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"All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise.
That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.
Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans."
I do agree. Was just pointing out how it actually works as opposed to how people think it works.
Marketing the green beans is what makes the world go round  |
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"All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise.
That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.
Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans.
I do agree. Was just pointing out how it actually works as opposed to how people think it works.
Marketing the green beans is what makes the world go round "
That's just what they tell you. It's still the dirty brown beans that do the real work  |
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
Because others like Germany are much more reliant. Suddenly they need to buy also and to get that supply they have to pay more. That means our current suppliers can sell for more to them so we have to pay more to keep the supply coming to us. |
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"All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise.
That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.
Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans."
Interesting that small fact isn't put out on their save the world eco green energy facts. Slippery fuckers |
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"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
Puts on tin hat ready to preach haha jokes
But seriously the war in the Ukraine is the excuse not the sole reason |
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"All UK energy companies are French or Italia"
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields."
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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"All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..
Transformers all Korean.
Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.
Insulate a pot of made in Italy..
The overhead cables come from Turkey.
Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.
The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
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All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..
Transformers all Korean.
Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.
Insulate a pot of made in Italy..
The overhead cables come from Turkey.
Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.
The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..
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Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.
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All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..
Transformers all Korean.
Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.
Insulate a pot of made in Italy..
The overhead cables come from Turkey.
Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.
The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..
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What currency is this equipment priced in? GBP/EUR is basically the same price (1.14) as it was 5 years ago (1.13) so there is basically no change on EUR priced goods due to foreign exchange movements. |
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All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..
Transformers all Korean.
Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.
Insulate a pot of made in Italy..
The overhead cables come from Turkey.
Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.
The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..
Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.
A"
Nat Grid American.. |
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All UK energy companies are French or Italia
That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.
Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.
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All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..
Transformers all Korean.
Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.
Insulate a pot of made in Italy..
The overhead cables come from Turkey.
Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.
The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..
Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.
A
Nat Grid American.."
For everything else theres..mastercard |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Politicians are in the pocket of the fossil fuels industry. The crux of the issue is fuel production is down globally. Saudi Arabia has cut their fuel production as an example, that alone will put prices up. The war in Ukraine is not a factor, at least for us in the UK anyway. That said, it doesn't stop the authorities and media lieing to us as usual. |
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