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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army?" Yes. We can't have just any Tom, Dick or Harry gluing themselves to things. We should leave the gluing to the professionals. | |||
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"No, it's time to seriously listen to why they feel they need to go to such extremes to make a point." They are basically spoilt brats.. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army?" if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,,  | |||
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"Why the army Tom? Pxx" They have discipline and would sort it. The police are useless .. | |||
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"No, it's time to seriously listen to why they feel they need to go to such extremes to make a point. They are basically spoilt brats.." Ah,the authentic voice of Daily Mail England. | |||
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"Also to add.... I didn't join the army to play with childish adults who spit their dummys out and throw tantrums. Also the army would also have to pussyfoot around being careful as they also have to follow rules and won't want to be sued or worse. " Do NOT get paid enough to deal with crap hats  | |||
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"Then they'll just glue themselves to defence."  | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,, " I got a face book time out for suggesting just pulling them up and moving them out of the way.
Dont get me wrong people have a right to protest and the global climate issue is an important subject that needs to be highlighted, but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point? | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army?" To do what? | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? To do what? " Sort these buggers out... | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,,
I got a face book time out for suggesting just pulling them up and moving them out of the way.
Dont get me wrong people have a right to protest and the global climate issue is an important subject that needs to be highlighted, but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point?"To be fair... a stationary vehicle uses less fuel than a moving one | |||
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"I say, we walk up to them with more glue, cover them in it and walk away, so when they get bored, hungry and need the toilet, not only will they have to spend ages peeling themselves off the floor, but also peeling glue from other places and chances are having to get bad hair cuts to get it out their hair. " Don't forget to cover them in cold chips and make sure the seagulls get to know about it. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,,
I got a face book time out for suggesting just pulling them up and moving them out of the way.
Dont get me wrong people have a right to protest and the global climate issue is an important subject that needs to be highlighted, but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point?"What about the amount of enemies they've just made? | |||
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"The military would sort this when the feds are scared to act" You really are completely clueless, arent you. | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! " Forget the army… I’ll even provide glue | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! " At last. Someone with a Fab sense of priorities. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? To do what? Sort these buggers out..." How? | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! Forget the army… I’ll even provide glue " ^He's got his pritt stick ready. | |||
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"The military would sort this when the feds are scared to act You really are completely clueless, arent you." Tom may be clueless but the army are not.. Tom would deploy the army on these buggers.. | |||
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"Just ignore them...where they've glued themselves avoid, don't give them air time on media...the more attention they get the more they will do" Yes. Ignore these buggers then send in the army.. | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! " I know someone who has an ex-Marine who comes her way! | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! Forget the army… I’ll even provide glue ^He's got his pritt stick ready." I like arts and crafts hour  | |||
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"I’ll glue myself to my bed if someone would like to send the army my way! " Off to find my old uniform I go....  | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,,
I got a face book time out for suggesting just pulling them up and moving them out of the way.
Dont get me wrong people have a right to protest and the global climate issue is an important subject that needs to be highlighted, but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point?
To be fair... a stationary vehicle uses less fuel than a moving one"A valid point but the vehicle will still be using more fuel and producing more pollution over the entirety of its journey due to the extended travel time that these protesters are causing, then you could go into the cost of extra wear on mechanical components that wouldn't have happened if the traffic was flowing freely as the engine wouldn't have been running for as long. | |||
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"That is the road to anarchy " Anarchy is these buggers attacking statues, paintings, bridges and roads.. The army should be deployed against these idiots | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? if they want fixing to a wall or road i have a perfectly good nail gun that would do the job a treat,,, hand feet ears,,, bet they would soon change their minds,,
I got a face book time out for suggesting just pulling them up and moving them out of the way.
Dont get me wrong people have a right to protest and the global climate issue is an important subject that needs to be highlighted, but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point?
What about the amount of enemies they've just made?"I think its another thing they dont seem to have considered, it's really hard to win people over to your cause if all you are doing is pissing people off causing disruption to normal peoples lives. | |||
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"That is the road to anarchy Anarchy is these buggers attacking statues, paintings, bridges and roads.. The army should be deployed against these idiots " I'd Deploy those guys they use in zoos and in Africa with the tranquilzer guns they never miss | |||
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"Then they'll just glue themselves to defence." I actually laughed out loud at this | |||
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"Protest is a healthy and essential part of a democracy. "  | |||
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"Protest is a healthy and essential part of a democracy. " You are right, up to the point where it involves causing criminal damage to peoples property, then it has no place in any society | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army?" The Army are not trained for that work someone will get hurt, so not a great idea just need the police to get their finger out be faster at removing people quickly and quality. | |||
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"That is the road to anarchy " Don't say that, the fuckers will glue themselves to it. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? The Army are not trained for that work someone will get hurt, so not a great idea just need the police to get their finger out be faster at removing people quickly and quality." Yeah, if you've got three weeks to wait before they come out. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army? The Army are not trained for that work someone will get hurt, so not a great idea just need the police to get their finger out be faster at removing people quickly and quality. Yeah, if you've got three weeks to wait before they come out." That's what I was saying  | |||
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"That is the road to anarchy Don't say that, the fuckers will glue themselves to it." Over them a free drink of Picolax or Movistar in a juice bottle then pretend to be their friend for 15 minutes or so, then run, run fast. | |||
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"That is the road to anarchy Don't say that, the fuckers will glue themselves to it. Over them a free drink of Picolax or Movistar in a juice bottle then pretend to be their friend for 15 minutes or so, then run, run fast." I bet they unstick themselves damn fast | |||
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"The military would sort this when the feds are scared to act You really are completely clueless, arent you. Tom may be clueless but the army are not.. Tom would deploy the army on these buggers.." Did you just refer to yourself in the third person?? You are like a broken record. You keep repeating "deploy the army on these buggers", but dont say to do what? How would they resolve it? Having spent 14yrs in the Army, i can guarantee they'd have the same amount of limitations as the police. Personally, id have opened the bridge up and left them up there. The police did something similar when protesters glued themselves to the floor of the Natural History Museum. They closed the museum, turned the lights off, and left them there, with some security to keep and eye on them. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. " Because it's Tom. We love him. He's a legend. Well, a legend in his own mind. | |||
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"We have these people glueing themselves to roads and museums and bridges. Is it time to send in the army?" Nah, just order them to do community service picking up used condoms and dog shit. Environmental activism at it's core roots. They'd love it | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. " But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. " Doing something about it? You mean wasting valuable police time and money and causing mayhem to others. They should be so proud! | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. " To be honest I agree with this so much. It's like kids playing at adulting, and smacks of not actually wanting to do fuck all versus causing a bit of drama, and someone else literally having to clean up the mess... Throwing soup or shit on a work of art, or preventing the general public minding their own daily buisness raises naff all awareness of anything (other than being an annoying twat). If they genuinely gave a toss they could create petitions, lobby upcoming heightened proposals that impact the environment in their local area... You know, useful stuff? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. To be honest I agree with this so much. It's like kids playing at adulting, and smacks of not actually wanting to do fuck all versus causing a bit of drama, and someone else literally having to clean up the mess... Throwing soup or shit on a work of art, or preventing the general public minding their own daily buisness raises naff all awareness of anything (other than being an annoying twat). If they genuinely gave a toss they could create petitions, lobby upcoming heightened proposals that impact the environment in their local area... You know, useful stuff? " It’s cute you think all of that hasn’t already been done and fallen on deaf ears. Just goes to show no one has actually taken any time to understand the reasons for the protest. Everyone just wants a reason to moan. People are taking extreme measures because all other options have been exhausted and we’re in an extreme position. | |||
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"Why the army Tom? Pxx They have discipline and would sort it. The police are useless .. " If you say so. They are down now anyway and have been taken away by the police. No army needed. Pxx | |||
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"They are down now anyway and have been taken away by the police. No army needed." Good work, Tom | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. To be honest I agree with this so much. It's like kids playing at adulting, and smacks of not actually wanting to do fuck all versus causing a bit of drama, and someone else literally having to clean up the mess... Throwing soup or shit on a work of art, or preventing the general public minding their own daily buisness raises naff all awareness of anything (other than being an annoying twat). If they genuinely gave a toss they could create petitions, lobby upcoming heightened proposals that impact the environment in their local area... You know, useful stuff? " Because getting arrested is doing fuck all but creating a petition can change the world
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. " They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. " No one reads any more, Steve. Reading some of these arguments people have made is actually so painful because it’s clear they’ve done absolutely no research of their own and are just regurgitating the same boring tired rhetoric of their equally ill informed friends. | |||
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"………but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point?" They don’t give a shit. They’re so self-sanctified they think their actions are above all, as proven by the pointless bullshit stunts they pull that improve nothing and galvanise pretty much everyone else against them and their causes. There are plenty of ways to lobby and protest without being a unmitigated twat. | |||
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"Honestly we get it, people on here don’t care about the climate crisis. We get that you want them to march every so often and start online change dot org petitions that do fuck all and raise far less awareness. Over 50 million people have watched the video of someone throwing soup on a painting and explaining their cause. The funniest thing is, all I’m getting is, at best, ‘I’d support them if they stopped inconveniencing me’** but to that I have to ask, how true is that really? Our government continues to commit to not doing what these groups want. They’re not going to reduce our emissions by enough by 2030 like we were told we needed to. They’re continuing to fuck up the planet and us and our kids who will be around in 2050 and beyond are supposed to just wait for the trailer for this horror movie to drop before it all goes to shit and millions of people die. " | |||
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"They are down now anyway and have been taken away by the police. No army needed. Good work, Tom " | |||
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"………but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point? They don’t give a shit. They’re so self-sanctified they think their actions are above all, as proven by the pointless bullshit stunts they pull that improve nothing and galvanise pretty much everyone else against them and their causes. There are plenty of ways to lobby and protest without being a unmitigated twat." Which of those ways have they not tried yet? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. No one reads any more, Steve. Reading some of these arguments people have made is actually so painful because it’s clear they’ve done absolutely no research of their own and are just regurgitating the same boring tired rhetoric of their equally ill informed friends. " Everyone was like ‘don’t look up’ is a great movie like a few months ago but inna real life the energy isn’t matching  | |||
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"………but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point? They don’t give a shit. They’re so self-sanctified they think their actions are above all, as proven by the pointless bullshit stunts they pull that improve nothing and galvanise pretty much everyone else against them and their causes. There are plenty of ways to lobby and protest without being a unmitigated twat. Which of those ways have they not tried yet? " Sticking themselves to a non oil based product like concrete. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. " Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. To be honest I agree with this so much. It's like kids playing at adulting, and smacks of not actually wanting to do fuck all versus causing a bit of drama, and someone else literally having to clean up the mess... Throwing soup or shit on a work of art, or preventing the general public minding their own daily buisness raises naff all awareness of anything (other than being an annoying twat). If they genuinely gave a toss they could create petitions, lobby upcoming heightened proposals that impact the environment in their local area... You know, useful stuff? Because getting arrested is doing fuck all but creating a petition can change the world
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"………but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point? They don’t give a shit. They’re so self-sanctified they think their actions are above all, as proven by the pointless bullshit stunts they pull that improve nothing and galvanise pretty much everyone else against them and their causes. There are plenty of ways to lobby and protest without being a unmitigated twat. Which of those ways have they not tried yet? Sticking themselves to a non oil based product like concrete." Well good to know that’s all it takes to get people to support them! Let’s tell them that’s all it’ll take to get millions of people to get up from their sofas and support them! | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. " But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. " He quite literally just explained how | |||
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"………but do these people not realise that by sticking themselves to roads and bridges is actually worsening the pollution that they are trying to stop by causing miles and miles of stationary traffic all sat pumping lovely toxic exhaust gasses in to the atmosphere? Also how do they fell about the emergency services vehicles they hold up? What if it was one of their family members laying in the back of an ambulance on route to a hospital for urgent care that didn't make it just because some idiot glued themselves to a road to make a point? They don’t give a shit. They’re so self-sanctified they think their actions are above all, as proven by the pointless bullshit stunts they pull that improve nothing and galvanise pretty much everyone else against them and their causes. There are plenty of ways to lobby and protest without being a unmitigated twat. Which of those ways have they not tried yet? Sticking themselves to a non oil based product like concrete. Well good to know that’s all it takes to get people to support them! Let’s tell them that’s all it’ll take to get millions of people to get up from their sofas and support them! " I'm just throwing stuff into the debate, the road route ain't working the outside of a bus or tube train and a tube of glue may make the difference.  | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. " I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action" How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? " By cause enough disruption to force government to listen? How is that not taking direct action? | |||
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"The thing is, people are talking about them, including Tom with his ridiculous solutions. So, doesn't that show that their methods are working? I say, keep it up." People are talking about them and ridiculing them and complaining I see very few people actually joining the cause. How many people who claim to support this group and those like it actually do anything to change their behaviour that of the political parties and big businesses? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? By cause enough disruption to force government to listen? How is that not taking direct action?" And what action exactly have government taken after 3 years of protests like this? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? By cause enough disruption to force government to listen? How is that not taking direct action? And what action exactly have government taken after 3 years of protests like this? " That sounds like the government’s fault? They’re doing their bit. More than you or I are doing. I salute them. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? " This is literally direct action I think | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? By cause enough disruption to force government to listen? How is that not taking direct action? And what action exactly have government taken after 3 years of protests like this? That sounds like the government’s fault? They’re doing their bit. More than you or I are doing. I salute them. " You have no idea what I am doing about the situation but there are definitely more productive ways than gluing yourself to public buildings and vandalising property that doesn't belong to you. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? " Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore "The people who were diverted by police had to then pay the congestion charge and ULEZ charge. For change to really be made you need people behind you and on your side and pissing off the members of the public just trying to go about their normal lives isn't going to achieve that. | |||
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"They are seen as immature entitled brats whos parents are wealthy enough that they can spend their time doing this nonsense rather than getting a job. I genuinely do not personally know anyone who sees them that way, with that many unsubstantiated assumptions. " I support Phoebe, Milo and Jacinda | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? By cause enough disruption to force government to listen? How is that not taking direct action? And what action exactly have government taken after 3 years of protests like this? That sounds like the government’s fault? They’re doing their bit. More than you or I are doing. I salute them. You have no idea what I am doing about the situation but there are definitely more productive ways than gluing yourself to public buildings and vandalising property that doesn't belong to you. " True. They’re doing more than me though. And I salute them for that. | |||
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"I think if all the businesses impacted by delays began suing for costs and the people for lost earnings or costs from redirections and blockages. The coffers would soon run dry and the ringleaders would be nowhere to be seen." And the government would still laugh and millions of us and our kids would still die. Just charge it to the game I guess | |||
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"I am a Provo If that puerile tribal fascist and totally irrelevant interjection means that you are boasting that you support Provisional IRA murder, torture, and other terrorism and base criminality then you are moronic and utter scum. Blocked." I thought it ment military police. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore "Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision? "I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now. | |||
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"Also to add.... I didn't join the army to play with childish adults who spit their dummys out and throw tantrums. Also the army would also have to pussyfoot around being careful as they also have to follow rules and won't want to be sued or worse. " Damn human rights hey. Maybe we should send in the Russian army show them how a proper army does things ? | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now. "Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle. | |||
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" Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now. "Perhaps you’re right. That’s the reason that people haven’t done anything. For me, it’s another in a long list of things the govt are getting wrong. And for me, I care deeply about how I’m going to hear my home this winter AND what kind of planet my daughter might grow up to live in. And is it not good that people are taking direct action when not everyone has the energy to? Sorry but I support this action and personally think more of us should. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle. "This is also true. God people were awful then too. | |||
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" Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Perhaps you’re right. That’s the reason that people haven’t done anything. For me, it’s another in a long list of things the govt are getting wrong. And for me, I care deeply about how I’m going to hear my home this winter AND what kind of planet my daughter might grow up to live in. And is it not good that people are taking direct action when not everyone has the energy to? Sorry but I support this action and personally think more of us should. "I don't see how causing more pollution by causing tailbacks, Busting businesses and individuals money in a time of financial crisis is achieving anything other than making people turn against these protesters. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle.
This is also true. God people were awful then too. "But blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people getting to medical appointments is OK apparently. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now. "This is very true... At the end of the day we could all individually vote with our feet and refuse to use gas, electricity, petrol, and diesel. I'm sure change would occur very quickly? But as that's never going to happen. It'd certainly help if we just all concentrated on doing our own bit? Buying into less consumer waste rubbish, didn't insist on using cars for a 2min drive to the shop, less buying food sourced with massive air milage to transport it, less packaging... Yada, yada. We can all make a massive daily difference. The reality is nobody really wants to because it's too convenient to not? The new flash mob equivalent of stapling yourself to the nearest motorway has next to no actual big scale impact | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
This is very true... At the end of the day we could all individually vote with our feet and refuse to use gas, electricity, petrol, and diesel. I'm sure change would occur very quickly? But as that's never going to happen. It'd certainly help if we just all concentrated on doing our own bit? Buying into less consumer waste rubbish, didn't insist on using cars for a 2min drive to the shop, less buying food sourced with massive air milage to transport it, less packaging... Yada, yada. We can all make a massive daily difference. The reality is nobody really wants to because it's too convenient to not? The new flash mob equivalent of stapling yourself to the nearest motorway has next to no actual big scale impact "Other nations are laughing. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
This is very true... At the end of the day we could all individually vote with our feet and refuse to use gas, electricity, petrol, and diesel. I'm sure change would occur very quickly? But as that's never going to happen. It'd certainly help if we just all concentrated on doing our own bit? Buying into less consumer waste rubbish, didn't insist on using cars for a 2min drive to the shop, less buying food sourced with massive air milage to transport it, less packaging... Yada, yada. We can all make a massive daily difference. The reality is nobody really wants to because it's too convenient to not? The new flash mob equivalent of stapling yourself to the nearest motorway has next to no actual big scale impact "For a lot of people it's not inconvenience it's a necessity they can't afford to buy locally grown organic food, clothes ect.. | |||
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" Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Perhaps you’re right. That’s the reason that people haven’t done anything. For me, it’s another in a long list of things the govt are getting wrong. And for me, I care deeply about how I’m going to hear my home this winter AND what kind of planet my daughter might grow up to live in. And is it not good that people are taking direct action when not everyone has the energy to? Sorry but I support this action and personally think more of us should.
I don't see how causing more pollution by causing tailbacks, Busting businesses and individuals money in a time of financial crisis is achieving anything other than making people turn against these protesters. "They’re not doing more damage than Governments and others are doing to the planet. I also don’t know what you want me to say lol? Maybe people are turning against them. But if they want change, the people that can make them stop are the government. And those are the people that my anger is directed at. I’m not changing my mind on that. Thanks to everyone for their points but I know where I stand on the issue and I know where I stand on supporting direct action to force change. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle.
This is also true. God people were awful then too.
But blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people getting to medical appointments is OK apparently. "God, not this nonsense again. There’s no reports of this happening and having dire consequences. Literally none. Good to know that you’re okay with them being met with violence. Tells us what kind of person you are. | |||
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" Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Perhaps you’re right. That’s the reason that people haven’t done anything. For me, it’s another in a long list of things the govt are getting wrong. And for me, I care deeply about how I’m going to hear my home this winter AND what kind of planet my daughter might grow up to live in. And is it not good that people are taking direct action when not everyone has the energy to? Sorry but I support this action and personally think more of us should.
I don't see how causing more pollution by causing tailbacks, Busting businesses and individuals money in a time of financial crisis is achieving anything other than making people turn against these protesters.
They’re not doing more damage than Governments and others are doing to the planet.
I also don’t know what you want me to say lol? Maybe people are turning against them. But if they want change, the people that can make them stop are the government. And those are the people that my anger is directed at. I’m not changing my mind on that. Thanks to everyone for their points but I know where I stand on the issue and I know where I stand on supporting direct action to force change. "If we want to change then we can do so with our vote, People often compare these protesters to the suffragettes Or Martin Luther king however the differences they didn't have any other options they couldn't use their vote. | |||
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"I think if all the businesses impacted by delays began suing for costs and the people for lost earnings or costs from redirections and blockages. The coffers would soon run dry and the ringleaders would be nowhere to be seen. And the government would still laugh and millions of us and our kids would still die. Just charge it to the game I guess" Really? You think that's a balanced and realistic perspective? Time and money would be better spent supporting efforts to tackle things that already plague humanity like cancer research or the persecution of peoples/ races/ religions/ genders/etc. , or genocide or worldwide causes of infant deaths due to treatable illnesses etc. These millions you speak of already die for avoidable reasons. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle.
This is also true. God people were awful then too.
But blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people getting to medical appointments is OK apparently. "I don’t know what to tell you, honestly. Lol. I realise this is your biggest opposition to them. I still support them. What do we do now? | |||
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"I am a Provo If that puerile tribal fascist and totally irrelevant interjection means that you are boasting that you support Provisional IRA murder, torture, and other terrorism and base criminality then you are moronic and utter scum. Blocked. I thought it ment military police." That is 'Provost' and not usually used by ordinary Royal Military Police, and whatever anyone thinks of them they aren't illiterate! 'Provo' is what the vicious subhuman murdering scum in Ireland call themselves, and are called by the nasty little cowardly half-wits who support them. | |||
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"Second thread you’ve done on this topic? Why take it so personally? Their cause is a necessary one. And thank God, they’re doing something about it while most of us sit on our backsides complaining. But it’s not , is it. They say it’s to make people aware of global warming, well I don’t know a single person who isn’t aware of global warming and it’s consequences. Their actions are also doing absolutely nothing to combat global warming. That make it a complete fail on all counts to me. They are asking the government to stop production of oil and gas. That’s what they’ve been asking for over a year. The government has ignored that. They’ve tried marching and protesting. Nobody engaged on this scale. Do you know how many people have engaged in just the Van Gough painting alone? It’s not a complete fail. What makes it a complete fail is unbelievable people that sit there and complain about all the different methods of protesting, wishing they’d go back to marching or something (which didn’t work!!!) because activists that have the time and energy to get people to realise that our government is not taking this seriously enough. Wanna know something? It’s from their sitting in the road last year that I even realised what their cause was and how bloody right they actually are. That I did the reading and continue to, to find out that our government continues to expand oil and gas production against the advice of experts. Seriously Steve, I’ve seen a lot of your posts on all sorts of topics and you certainly come across as a pretty well read bloke with a wide understanding of many issues, I’m struggling to believe you needed someone glueing themselves to the road before you became aware of how serious the global warming issue is. I knew it was bad. Didn’t know how bad. Just focused my energy on other forms of injustice. And didn’t follow people talking about the issue. Until people started taking direct action I didn’t realise just how close to planetary destruction we were and probably like many in here, I probably just didn’t care enough until I read about it for myself. But how didn't you know? It's been apparent for many generations. 'recycling' has been an absolute joke in the UK for years. Most of the 'cruelty free products' on the market only label themselves that way as they don't test the ingredients that have already been pre tested on animals decades ago. None of this is 'new', news. I’m obviously not as great as great as everyone else? I guess? I’m ok with that. I have read up about it since. I knew climate change existed just didn’t realise the emergency was as bad as it is. I’m not embarrassed to say that. Lol. And now I keep up to date with it as much as I can and I support those taking direct action How is causing 6 miles of talebacks taking direct action? Well because it's not is it? All its doing is raising aw awareness of disruption, not change Let's face it protesting in whatever form physically has rarely yielded results? Lobbying laws, so they have to be upheld? Well now there is a thing that governments find harder to blatantly ignore
Maybe they could have done more to stop the government continuing to expand oil and gas production. I don’t think so but maybe they could have. But I definitely think that the government are being helped massively by the fact that most people simply do not care. They announced new licensing for oil and gas and other than these guys, what pressure have they been put under for that decision?
I don't think it's that people don't care I think that the vast majority of people just have more to worry about right now. It's all well and good tried to get people to shop ethically ect And watch their carbon footprint however right now all people are trying to make sure they can heat their homes and feed their families this Winter. Pointless worrying about the future for your children if you can't protect them in the right now.
Wouldn’t need to worry about heating our homes and how expensive that’s going to be in such a harsh winter if action had been taken sooner. Globally, not just in the uk. But insulate Britain wanted our homes better insulated as many just let heat escape. People tried to run them over. It all comes full circle.
This is also true. God people were awful then too.
But blocking emergency vehicles and stopping people getting to medical appointments is OK apparently.
God, not this nonsense again. There’s no reports of this happening and having dire consequences. Literally none. Good to know that you’re okay with them being met with violence. Tells us what kind of person you are. "Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it nonsense and comments like this again just turn people away from the cause. | |||
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