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Auto vs Manual transmission

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Automatic.

I wouldn’t go back to manual.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Automatic.

I wouldn’t go back to manual. "

This is what I keep hearing x

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I drive a manual with a hand operated clutch, because I like changing gear.

I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring.....

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

It will take you five minutes to get used to it. Probably you will not go back

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By *lik and PaulCouple over a year ago

Flagrante

Can't remember the last manual I owned and Flik has only ever driven autos. Much prefer them.

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By *lephantisMan over a year ago

Oxford

I don't drive, because I don't need to: bus stop a minute away, train station 7 minutes away, and work a bucolic 15 minute countryside walk. When I did, my last car was a gorgeous 20 year old dark blue Golf soft-top. A brilliant car.

And I'm sorry to say that I loathe automatics. I choose my own gears depending on the situation. Besides, I'd worry about accidentally slamming on the brakes/accelerator.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I drive a manual with a hand operated clutch, because I like changing gear.

I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring....."

This is my fear, finding it too boring, I love driving and don't want the fun taking out of it x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A dragon called vhagar

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Ultimately all cars will be automatic, because of electric vehicles

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By *aomilatteCouple over a year ago

Midlands

We have one manual car and one auto. The Auto is easier to drive, it may not be fast but we don't drive to race anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’ve had automatics before but I much prefer manuals, I’m guess I’m just too much of a control freak probably

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't drive, because I don't need to: bus stop a minute away, train station 7 minutes away, and work a bucolic 15 minute countryside walk. When I did, my last car was a gorgeous 20 year old dark blue Golf soft-top. A brilliant car.

And I'm sorry to say that I loathe automatics. I choose my own gears depending on the situation. Besides, I'd worry about accidentally slamming on the brakes/accelerator.

This is what I fear, the lack of control. Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A dragon called vhagar "

I am the Dragon

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS over a year ago

Lanson

Modern autos are fine (often better than manuals)

1980's autos - now that's a different story!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Every car should be auto. It’s just so much easier.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It will take you five minutes to get used to it. Probably you will not go back

I fear this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A dragon called vhagar

I am the Dragon

If I ever got to ride you I’d be one happy man.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We used to have a triptronic which let you switch between automatic and manual. It was good fun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A dragon called vhagar

I am the Dragon

If I ever got to ride you I’d be one happy man. "

I'll be there in a week by the time the auto gets up to speed

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan over a year ago

Willenhall

I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times.

By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill...

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By *eyond PurityCouple over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I have always driven manuals and much like yourself, found myself with an automatic, as a temporary measure, when my car broke down.

I've now bought a hybrid (something else I never imagined I would own) which is automatic and I do love it. Even more so when you slip it into sport mode and it drives like a demon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Am an automatic

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By *lephantisMan over a year ago

Oxford

"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down. "

Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life.

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By *lowryderMan over a year ago

Stafford

I love driving a manual car... my last car was an auto which was good in stop start traffic, meant you didn't get a sore clutch leg... lol. I now drive an electric car which has either forwards or reverse... no gear box... I do like the electric car although I miss my 6 speed gearbox...

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

A mate lent me his 2.8 Granada once when he was abroad for 6 months, it was an automatic, I hardly ever drove it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

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By *olymalelincsMan over a year ago

southend

Have an auto qashqai at the moment, I have driven a mix of both throughout my life and have to say the modern auto boxes are so much better than the old ones I dont think I would go back now and if I want to be silly I can always switch it to manual select.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Always had Manuals. Driven a few autos and find them a bit too... disconnected? Relaxing maybe? Mind you, Lexus' and Mercs would kind of be a lot more comfy than my ageing VW...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times.

By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill..."

I parallel my manual all over the place, controlling the clutch with my middle finger only. It's really easy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I teach manual but have an automatic for my personal car… however I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years more people will just go for the automatic option as electric cars become the norm…

At some stage I’ll have to decide whether to carry on teaching how to use a clutch, as there’ll still be a demand while the second hand market still supplies manuals

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Parallel *park

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Automatic.

I wouldn’t go back to manual.

This is what I keep hearing x"

I say it too . Driving manual , in places like London or Luton .

You just wish u have a automatic trust me .

I done van multi drop ( pain )

HGV2 manual - ( pain )

My van Stil manual . Was cheap .

My car . Renault Scenic MPV automatic

Brilliant . Ok is not the sexiest things but does a good job .

And if u like to feel it bite the corners a bit more racy , u can do manual control switch to semi - automatic

Even on automatic is good reaction enough for 1.5 diesel

Someone who wants automatic but is gonna kiss the manual ? I recommend get something with “ semi-automatic option

And u just gear up n down no clutching .

I never bother with semi automatic

Just the effort of roundabouts every 1 yard is off putting

Specially in traffic where u barely put the second or even third gear ….

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down.

Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life."

Engine braking and good reflex no doubt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Manual for Mrs

Auto for Mr

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Automatic + electric.

I do love a manual, as it allows me to relive my boy racer youth.

But for ease (and now speed) I will stick with an auto. Especially when hitting traffic (hello m5/m6)

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Automatic. Much prefer it to a manual.

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By *P994Man over a year ago

Travelling

I have had a mixture of manual and auto. New automatic gearboxes are brilliant, easy to drive and no real performance impact in newer cars. I’ve got a 7speed DSG in my Cupra and it’s spot on.

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By *lephantisMan over a year ago

Oxford

"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down.

Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life.

Engine braking and good reflex no doubt.

Sheer panicky instinct, more like!

But that wouldn't have done any good in an automatic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Automatic + electric.

I do love a manual, as it allows me to relive my boy racer youth.

But for ease (and now speed) I will stick with an auto. Especially when hitting traffic (hello m5/m6) "

Yeah, this would be the only thing I like the auto for, being off and on the clutch for miles in traffic is bad

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By *egoMan over a year ago

Preston

DSG, so automatic with paddles on the steering wheel to change gear if you want. You wont bother but the feeling you can satisfies the control. And no clutch to bother with.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill..."

I hear you.

Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland....

I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

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the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like manual, I think I would resist driving an automatic. For no good reason really, it always feels like cheating driving though.

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By *abluesbabyMan over a year ago

Gibraltar/Cheshire/London

When in England I live in a fairly rural area up a steep hill. And we often get snow.

So I drive a manual (with winter tyres part the year) as I would not get home some days otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I teach manual but have an automatic for my personal car… however I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years more people will just go for the automatic option as electric cars become the norm…

At some stage I’ll have to decide whether to carry on teaching how to use a clutch, as there’ll still be a demand while the second hand market still supplies manuals"

Yeah . That’s it . All HGV2 are dropping to automatic . Isn’t it ? Thanks God for that .

Doing dustcart in Central London ( Trafalgar Square , Piccadilly ) glad all Dennis are automatic

So much easier compare to manual tippers in Wembley . Pain .

Take manual is just a tool for work so u not limited on opportunities.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)"

Loud revving is half the fun

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

Loud revving is half the fun

I can do that in my semi automatic option .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Automatic + electric.

I do love a manual, as it allows me to relive my boy racer youth.

But for ease (and now speed) I will stick with an auto. Especially when hitting traffic (hello m5/m6)

Yeah, this would be the only thing I like the auto for, being off and on the clutch for miles in traffic is bad"

Actually this has almost convinced me to an auto, I get awful knee cramp in traffic jams with a clutch

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Manual for me .

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

My next car will be auto. I’ve resisted it so far, a bit like that final house move into a bungalow, but we all know it makes sense

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"My next car will be auto. I’ve resisted it so far, a bit like that final house move into a bungalow, but we all know it makes sense "

We're moving to a bungalow (hopefully), age 36

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

Loud revving is half the fun

I can do that in my semi automatic option ."

Is actually more fun cause is up n down only

Like a WRC .

Not in “ fork shape gears “ u can drop 2 gears in half second or less

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

Loud revving is half the fun

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true. It's more when you pull off. I'm burning up boy racers and the cars so quiet, it's like I'm not trying. Must be getting old !

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

Loud revving is half the fun

true. It's more when you pull off. I'm burning up boy racers and the cars so quiet, it's like I'm not trying. Must be getting old !"

Never too old show the nippers how it's done

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

Manual for me.

Can’t heel toe in an auto, where’s the fun in that.

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By *rAitchMan over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

My car is an auto. I brake with my left foot, so can brake late into corners and accelerate out early.

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By *lephantisMan over a year ago

Oxford

Is it fair to say,too, that whilst I'm sure electric cars, Tiptronic and DSG systems etc are all wonderful, the same qualities are unlikely to be found in the cheap Pug the OP mentioned?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)"

Ohhh, tbh haven't driven an electric yet.

They are freakishly quiet, keep catching me unawares walking in carparks and such

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Is it fair to say,too, that whilst I'm sure electric cars, Tiptronic and DSG systems etc are all wonderful, the same qualities are unlikely to be found in the cheap Pug the OP mentioned?"

Exactly, it's incomparable.

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I much prefer driving a manual car.

My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control.

Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how

the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)

Loud revving is half the fun

I can do that in my semi automatic option .

Is actually more fun cause is up n down only

Like a WRC .

Not in “ fork shape gears “ u can drop 2 gears in half second or less

But a sadev sequential gearbox will run you about 10-20k and need rebuilding ever 2-3k miles one down side to sequential gearbox’s

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Automatic if you live in a city or drive mostly on the motorway.

Manual if you enjoy driving and aren't an American.

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By *utterypopcornCouple over a year ago

oxford

Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!!

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan over a year ago

Willenhall

I parallel my manual all over the place, controlling the clutch with my middle finger only. It's really easy. "

That's the point...you have a clutch so on a hill you can engage the clutch and control the speed with gravity (i.e. letting the car roll downhill) and use the brake to control your speed/descent.

That's very hard to do when you don't have a clutch nor a "Neutral" position for semi-automatic mode. I couldn't work out a way that didn't involve giving it some beans from the engine without using fully-automatic mode which would require turning the engine off.

This was an N-reg BMW 7 series I had use of for a week. It was the boss's "old" car (he had a brand-spanking-new W-reg) that I was given use of when my own car failed it's MOT. Nice to sit in (and be seen in)...a ballache to drive.

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By *iamondCougarWoman over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I’ve driven auto and manual - I prefer auto. It’s a much smoother and stress free drive. I wouldn’t go back to manual by choice but my current car has the option to switch to manual if I chose.

Stick with it Miss D! You’ll get used to it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! "

Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up

You basically go to them place a order thay will then sorce your car from farrari or other low miles ones that have been bought to sell on then they will swap out the gearbox and then but a tax stamp on it for dubble the price

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Showing my ignorance here of automatics.

Can you do a rolling start in an automatic in a pinch?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have just had a.new skoda superb estate deliverd with an auto transmission, I ordered it a year ago, well worth the wait, an incredible drive, would never go manual again!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I’ve driven auto and manual - I prefer auto. It’s a much smoother and stress free drive. I wouldn’t go back to manual by choice but my current car has the option to switch to manual if I chose.

Stick with it Miss D! You’ll get used to it "

Thank you. I am hoping so, was going to sell it once it became surplus but thinking of keeping it, my Corsa is super cheap which will offset the cost of a 2nd car

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By *elvet RopeMan over a year ago

by the big field

I drive a van mainly.

As for autos- there and automatics and automatics.

An old basic Pug isn't going to be anywhere near as good as the autobox on something like a Jag, Bentley or a Porsche Tiptronic....or even one of the newer cars, which have improved greatly in smoothness, reliability and economy.

Also, poor maintenance can massively reduce the quality of use. I did a flush and change on the transmission fluid on my Jag and it totally changed the drive

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! "

I think you’ll find they all have the option of switching to the manual paddle shift mode.

They have an auto box because most people who can afford to buy a new Ferrari don’t have the driving ability to use a manual in a high horse power car.

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By *utterypopcornCouple over a year ago

oxford

"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!!

Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up

Not from the factory as a standard car. You could convert most cars but the point is ferrari don’t make them as they are not as fast and the whole point was that auto cars now are faster than a manual.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Showing my ignorance here of automatics.

Can you do a rolling start in an automatic in a pinch?"

yes no yes

Really just depends

If it’s stock you will have a kick down lag but it will kick down at some point like in 300 to 400 milliseconds

If it’s not stock and your running some 2-3-4 speed power drag transmission

The kick down will be faster than any human is capable off

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!!

I think you’ll find they all have the option of switching to the manual paddle shift mode.

They have an auto box because most people who can afford to buy a new Ferrari don’t have the driving ability to use a manual in a high horse power car. "

Oooooooft

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"DSG, so automatic with paddles on the steering wheel to change gear if you want. You wont bother but the feeling you can satisfies the control. And no clutch to bother with."

Same here but tend to use the gear selector as opposed to the paddles feels more "normal ". 7 speed with sport option

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!!

Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up

Yes you can’t buy one directly from them but plenty off tuneing companies to get a brabus and stuff

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Small engined cars don't lend themselves well to automatic gearboxes (transmissions is fast & furious yank speak BTW). They don't have the torque or rev range to suit that type of box. Now before the pedants start piping up about 8 speed autos that preselect the gear above and below for you etc - small engined, cheap motors don't have that kind of box. Usually a three speed with overdrive and a low spec, low tech, cheap assed three speed at that.

I've driven some cracking auto's and had the same car in both manual and auto a few times the 530D manual was a far better drive than the 535D auto ever was but the manual Aristo I had was beaten hands down by the auto version I had.

Individual cars need judging in their own rights and I wouldn't go judging all automatics by a 206 unless you are going to use it as an example of about as shit as an auto box can be!

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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I’ve got autos and manuals

But without a doubt it’s my semi auto bmw with either paddle or stick change

Can cruise in lazy drive mode or get a bit fruity with the paddle shift

Best of both worlds

Ps the gear change is so instant and seamless in all modes tbh

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple over a year ago

Sunderland

"Small engined cars don't lend themselves well to automatic gearboxes (transmissions is fast & furious yank speak BTW). They don't have the torque or rev range to suit that type of box. Now before the pedants start piping up about 8 speed autos that preselect the gear above and below for you etc - small engined, cheap motors don't have that kind of box. Usually a three speed with overdrive and a low spec, low tech, cheap assed three speed at that.

Individual cars need judging in their own rights and I wouldn't go judging all automatics by a 206 unless you are going to use it as an example of about as shit as an auto box can be!

I'm pretty confident there's been no new car for sale for a good few years with a 3 speed auto. Not even sure the last time I saw a 4 speed auto for that matter.

But agreed some cars are far better with autos and others with manual.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I only drive autos so cannot compare.

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By *iddylad87Man over a year ago

kidderminster

I’ve got a 51 plate Hyundai coupe 2l that’s auto, an ive got an 05 ka as my daily that’s a manual

Both have extremely low mileage

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill...

I hear you.

Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland....

I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance "

What happened to the FABia?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Showing my ignorance here of automatics.

Can you do a rolling start in an automatic in a pinch?

yes no yes

Really just depends

If it’s stock you will have a kick down lag but it will kick down at some point like in 300 to 400 milliseconds

If it’s not stock and your running some 2-3-4 speed power drag transmission

The kick down will be faster than any human is capable off "

Thanks

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

"Automatic if you live in a city or drive mostly on the motorway.

Manual if you enjoy driving and aren't an American."

Alright Clarkson

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!"

Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick.

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By *hocohung8Man over a year ago

Norrh East & East midlands

Drove both and definitely automatic

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By *oubleswing2019Man over a year ago

Colchester

Would never go back to manual.

Manual is far too much hassle and hard work. Another layer of complexity and faff.

Get in. Select Drive. Drive.

(On day it will be get in, select coordinates, have a snooze or read paper), which will be even better

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!"

Is not boring . Is relaxing . And easy . Perfect for after a hard day work . Or for city door 2 door .

Has semi automatic . If automatic is to slow for the needs

I love it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Automatic

Would never go back to a manual. Pointless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What I found today was that I think cars will lose the mirrors .

Today on M1 I noticed that the big HGV1 didn’t had them big mirrors .

Had only little “ ears “ sticking out with a camera.

Wich will give you a much faster control as you will have the 3 views only in 1

Loved The idea of the mirrors image in dash board in your face as you look straight .

I believe cars will lose the mirrors .

With the love they have for more technology and us with more crap to go wrong ?

I just can see it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Automatic

Would never go back to a manual. Pointless "

In GT 7 my racing setting is in manual .

There’s some top gear super fast prototypes on automatic . Is super fast but I don’t enjoy the racing .

But yeah . In real life is no much point .

Not in a 20 to 70 mph track ^^

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!

Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick."

I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot!

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!

Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick.

I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot!"

Is his name Manuel?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"This is all a much ado about nothing

...just opt for the Automatic.

Nooooooooooo! It's boring!

Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick.

I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot!

Is his name Manuel?"

Manual, he spells it. I control him with my middle finger

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By *DW1983Man over a year ago

Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield

"What I found today was that I think cars will lose the mirrors .

Today on M1 I noticed that the big HGV1 didn’t had them big mirrors .

Had only little “ ears “ sticking out with a camera.

Wich will give you a much faster control as you will have the 3 views only in 1

Loved The idea of the mirrors image in dash board in your face as you look straight .

I believe cars will lose the mirrors .

With the love they have for more technology and us with more crap to go wrong ?

I just can see it . "

I've driven a few vehicles with camera mirror systems. It's definitely the in thing, and quitw common on buses as well as HGVs. I can see the advantages - less wind resistance and less large mirrors to damage on HGVs and coaches, plus reduced number of mirror-versus-street furniture accidents for buses in cities.

But... It brings your focus to a point inside the vehicle rather than outside, so you lose some of what you'd see in your peripheral vision when checking a mirror, and you lose depth perception in a monitor. Some do have lines superimpised the same as reversing cameras, which helps but does feel a bit like a solution to a problem that wasn't there until technology made it one, if that makes sense.

There's also the loss of the fringe benefit that in a mirror, you can often see the driver (of a large vehicle) and better gauge whether he's seen you alongside/behind.

Back to the original question though, I prefer a manual car. Give me an automatic gearbox on a bus or coach any day. But for a car, all the auto boxes I've driven have seemed less good than I can achieve with my left foot. Manoeuvring on a hill, for example, where they are often a bit 'nothing...nothing...more revs...nothing...more revs...off we suddenly go'

I've done so many miles in a manual though that it's automatic (pun intended) and I don't give the action of changing gear any more thought than putting one foot in front of the other to walk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I prefer being boss of my own gear changes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

3 with a manual

Gladiator (Husbands)

Camaro

Mustang.

My daily driver is a jeep renegade trailhawk. It's fun to drive the others but I do love my renegade. If I get the urge to shift I just put it into manual mode.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

She gets the urges ^ Fact.

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By *imbobaMan over a year ago

Glasgow

Bit of a scary change coming up for me. 6 hear manual to a brand new Honda hybrid which in practice is an auto but actually doesn’t even have a gear box

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I found today was that I think cars will lose the mirrors .

Today on M1 I noticed that the big HGV1 didn’t had them big mirrors .

Had only little “ ears “ sticking out with a camera.

Wich will give you a much faster control as you will have the 3 views only in 1

Loved The idea of the mirrors image in dash board in your face as you look straight .

I believe cars will lose the mirrors .

With the love they have for more technology and us with more crap to go wrong ?

I just can see it .

There's also the loss of the fringe benefit that in a mirror, you can often see the driver (of a large vehicle) and better gauge whether he's seen you alongside/behind.

I've done so many miles in a manual though that it's automatic (pun intended) and I don't give the action of changing gear any more thought than putting one foot in front of the other to walk."

Lose depth is very bad …

Yes in town mirrors is an head hacke .

But I loved the big HGV2 mirrors . Is so much easier then drive a car .

Then back to my Yaris to go back home as just like : WTF ? Couldn’t see anything ^^

Stupid mirror not bigger then the bottom of a bottle of beer

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By *igGs19Woman over a year ago

Castle Douglas

Drive and prefer to drive manuals, but no major objections to autos so long as they have paddle shift too. Bottom line if it continues as is expected and the internal combustion engine is phased out, manual vehicles will be phased out with it, so going to have to get over it and get used to it regardless.

I've stopped caring quite so much when it comes to cars, but I'll be holding on to my petrol motorbikes til they pry then from my cold, dead hands!

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By *tew008Man over a year ago

edinburgh

"Automatic.

I wouldn’t go back to manual.

This is what I keep hearing x"

Newer automatics

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Automatic for me.

Not ashamed to admit I used to crunch gears and ride the clutch.

Driving is so much more enjoyable now.

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By *ingle ex cuckMan over a year ago

chester

It's what your used too really

Both Manuel and auto will be s thing of the past soon once driverless takes over.

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Manual every time for me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Auto all the way .

Passed in an auto then 13 years later sat manual test for work , 2 years later back in auto and won't change ( fem )

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Manual...

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By *unfriendly 123Man over a year ago

boston

Love my flappy paddle gearbox

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm a lazy fck, auto is what I have and wouldn't go back

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nissan

Can’t drive auto

Tried before

Just can’t get used to the no clutch or handbrake

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

Auto all the way for me, modern traffic is so stop start auto is just nicer and smoother even more so when you have a hybrid, I am biased as im an instructor who teaches auto

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When I need a new daily runner I go to auto trader and look at snotters with a years MOT. My current is a 20yr old focus 1.6 auto - it took a while getting used to it but I have had it for 4 years and it runs like a dreams.

I always had this idea that auto’s were not ‘real’ cars, but it is easy and simple to drive and goes the job. I will happily get another auto when I need a new car.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Modern automatic all the way... But while it's under warranty because they can be massively expensive to repair when out of that period.

It's essential to maintain them by having fluids replaced, something unfortunately many owners are oblivious too, particularly buying one second hand when service schedules are less apparent

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By *urls and DressesWoman over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I drive a manual, have had automatics but I’m not a fan. They’re very boring and I don’t feel as much in control of the car in bad weather. I’ll always choose a manual over an auto

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By *igBanMan over a year ago

kidlington

Prefer manual rwd but last ones were automatic (rwd)

635d was hard to find a decent one manual in this country.

Smart roadster don't do manual at all. E39 Agean blue don't have manual either.

Finally the car I have now.. still rwd and electric. So no chance of being manual.

All the auto above (besides the electric) could be used in "manual" mode. Not as engaging but still fun to drive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Had manuals since I started driving, but drove an automatic recently and will be getting one when I change car

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By *he FAB Social - MCRCouple (FF) over a year ago

manchester

I can only drive automatics. I did my lessons in a manual but it was all too much. I felt like there’s enough to take focus on in front of my face without the added element of gear changing in the mix.

I don’t enjoy driving though. It’s literally for necessity.

GG x

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By *layfullsamMan over a year ago

Solihull

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By *idnight RamblerMan over a year ago

Pershore

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By *idnight RamblerMan over a year ago

Pershore

I've driven both (currently manual) and there are pros and cons. I think you'll get used to automatic after a while and come to like it. You might notice that automatic transmission does take some of the power from the engine. It's good to be able to drive both especially if you go places like the US where manual is rare. In any case, EV are essentially automatic so we'll all have to get use to it

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By *oody HuddsonMan over a year ago

sexy town

Manual all the way…

Better fuel economy (but I do travel a lot) and a lot less to go wrong. I drive lots of vehicles daily and the majority are auto but when there is a problem and it doesn’t have to be with the box they really are problems. If it is a gear related issue then the cost is very expensive.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

I love manual. You have so much more control.

When I drove an automatic it was so damn boring. I'd probably have one if I did a tonne of driving for work though, save the old clutch leg. Mr

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By *agan_PairCouple over a year ago

portchester

I used to always go manual, but my last 4 cars have always been autos. Most come with paddles these days so you can put it in sport and sill take control of the change. But seeing as driving is not what it was 20 years ago and a lot of thebtime you're stuck in traffic or cruising on a motorway I'd not go back to manual. Modern auto boxes are nothing like the shockers of yesteryear

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill...

I hear you.

Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland....

I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance

What happened to the FABia? "

Went to the great big scrapyard over the rainbow

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I drive an auto now. But it's a modern DCT so the shifts are seemless. Round town, in traffic, the auto is king.

For a B road blast...I'll take a clutch peddle. Unfortunately I don't get to do much B road blasting haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Once I bought an auto never went back manual.

Current car is only available as an 8 speed auto, with flappy paddles plus sports and dynamic

mode, but hardly ever use it.

Does everything I need in a car.

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By *estSussexGuy76Man over a year ago

copthorne

I drive a Auto, new Clio RS

Bit bored of it, so may look into getting some more faster

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By *ris GrayMan over a year ago

Dorchester

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

"
they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse?

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By *umamoto88Man over a year ago

leeds

My car has both auto and manual gearbox

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I prefer to have the stick and knob in my hand

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse?

What has any of that got to do with an auto box. ?

Incidentally, the garage you are using sound like a bunch of cowboys.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

Why on earth did you have it towed back there??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some people enjoy the driving experience without even knowing, manual all the way for me

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By *host63Man over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Automatic and its so much nicer. I would love to never go back to a stick shift but I probably won't have much choice

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

I have an auto and no regrets. It’s got enough torque not to get caught in the wrong gear.

The modern twin clutch autos are really snappy, if sometimes a bit jerky, and you don’t pay a fuel economy penalty.

Tech has come on a long way. Unless you actively enjoy hillstarts there isn’t much of a downside.

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By *otsossieMan over a year ago

local, but not too local

"What has any of that got to do with an auto box. ?

Incidentally, the garage you are using sound like a bunch of cowboys. "

What he said.

Lots of diesel problems arise from buying the wrong car for the purpose ie diesels in cities not on long journeys.

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By *arkus1812Man over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

Has to be a manual every time, a proper handbrake, and a proper spare wheel are also a pre requsite for me when buying another car.

Its an age thing, old habits die hard

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By *2000ManMan over a year ago

Worthing

So much more control using a manual. I had an auto once while other car was in for repair. Never again.

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By *cplsMan over a year ago

Nr Waltham

As a former racing driver and track instructor, I always advocated a manual box; my own cars being manual. That was until I was instructing with a paddle shift gearbox, WOW. The control, speed and cornering ability was mind blowing. For non track driving and lazy days the system returns to a normal auto box. Auto boxes are now so clever and will learn your driving style. Best gearbox by far, Porsche PDK twin clutch.

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By *ecadent_DevonMan over a year ago

Okehampton

I drive an auto that has a manual stick option. Learning accelerator control is your friend in an auto as you can make the shifts very smooth, and regardless of what people say, you can drive in the snow.

It’s just a different way of driving that requires more right foot thinking than left foot thinking.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"As a former racing driver and track instructor, I always advocated a manual box; my own cars being manual. That was until I was instructing with a paddle shift gearbox, WOW. The control, speed and cornering ability was mind blowing. For non track driving and lazy days the system returns to a normal auto box. Auto boxes are now so clever and will learn your driving style. Best gearbox by far, Porsche PDK twin clutch."

Unless I have completely got the wrong end of the stick, a paddle shift isn’t actually an ‘automatic ‘ is it.

You are still determining when the change happens and to which gear. It’s just clutchless.

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

Automatic, wouldn't go back to manual

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Auto.

I like using only my right foot. On a motorway, set to cruise control and rest your foot.

In town, set the ‘limiter’ and you need not worry about speeding or to constantly check the speedometer.

I am not a race driver. I use a car for my own space to get me from one place to another. I don’t see the need to work hard to do it.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

I'm Automatic for the people.

There's already too much torque on this thread and it's becoming tyresome.

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By *lephantisMan over a year ago

Oxford

I get the thrust of what you are saying, but please steer away from braking the thread altogether. Indicators suggest it still has some mileage.

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By *ookingforfun9970Man over a year ago

nearby

Personally I prefer manual, however most European countries now will mainly have automatic cars, that and the fact of electric cars are automatic maybe we should all be embracing Automatic cars soon?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

Automatic, I used to be averse to them but now love them, especially with adaptive cruise control

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring....."

I hired a Volvo XC40 when I was in Holland earlier this year. Absolutely lovely car, and an automatic, really got in to driving it, until negotiating roundabouts, which was fucking awful, because there was no gearstick……

Manual gearbox only for me thanks

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By *arleycplCouple over a year ago

Leyburn

both drive Autos and would never go back to a manual, except our bikes.

Problem with modern manuals is they have dual mass flywheel which are unreliable and often when the clutch goes the flywheel neds replacing and around £500 for one most cars would be a right off

Andy ex mechanic

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't stand Automatics, not because I'm some driving purist who feels the need to think I'm a great driver who knows how to change gear better than the car does, but just because I'm so used to manual, that if I ever drive an auto I have to literally sit on my left foot to stop me doing an emergency stop when muscle memory makes he go for the invisible clutch. Also, they are heavier, more expensive to service, more expensive to buy, not as fuel efficient, and if you are a driving purist bore, don't perform as well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Manual always

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By *al kalMan over a year ago

london

Manual - You can really feel like you are "driving".

I wouldn't budge on this, until I got my new car however, which is Auto.

Now I feel like I am "piloting" my vehicle...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do not get a BMW X3 automatic... The most awful driving experience I have ever had ,just truly dreadful

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"both drive Autos and would never go back to a manual, except our bikes.

Problem with modern manuals is they have dual mass flywheel which are unreliable and often when the clutch goes the flywheel neds replacing and around £500 for one most cars would be a right off

Andy ex mechanic"

Better 'maybe' £500 on a dual mass and clutch kit, than 'maybe' £8k on a new auto gearbox if they go wrong.

Sid, still in the motor trade

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

Love my automatic

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan over a year ago

Glasgow / London

"I'm so used to manual, that if I ever drive an auto I have to literally sit on my left foot to stop me doing an emergency stop when muscle memory makes he go for the invisible clutch."

I hear you! Thank fuck it’s not just me who has this problem.

I’m manual all the way. I like using my hands and I like being in control.

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By *ister_ee_1981Man over a year ago

Sunniest Exeter...

I always took the view of "automatic. Ewwww" but now I have one I honestly wouldn't choose to go back.

Also, electric and hybrids will be automatic as far as I am aware, so something else to think about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Modern autos are great. Got a 7 speed, with flappy paddles for when I fancy a bit of fun.

Older autos are a bit depressing tbh, 3/4 speed clunkers

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

Manual on most car's.. however I'm awaiting a knee op on my left knee and an automatic would probably be a better option... yet I still got manual in my new car..

I had an automatic in my old range rover v8 and my lwb pajero. Also had semi automatic as I had silly speed ( selespeed ) alfa

However I drive a lot and miss manual when I don't have that optional. Something very satisfying in banging my car up and down the box and I use engine breaking a lot x

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By *kyblue1878Couple over a year ago

Southport

One of each but prefer auto's

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Drove manual cars from passing 15 or so years ago but 2 year ago I got myself a Mercedes C-Class which is automatic and I love it!

Don't think I could go back no manual now, automatic is more smooth relaxing to drive I think.

You'll get used to the automatic and you might even want to keep it or get another automatic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've had so many cars it's hard to count them and most have been manual had maybe 3 Autos that I liked to drive but when I changed I always seemed to go back to manuals.

Drive manuals all day long with work and over the last couple of years I've only got electric Autos at home

(wife's MG and my Leaf)

Can honestly say I won't go back to fossil fuel and definitely no more manuals outside of work

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By *aptainhornpipeMan over a year ago

manchester

I’ve spent the majority of my 35+ year driving career in manual cars. I have driven many autos in that time but they tend to be a bit frustrating it can’t be denied that they are a lot easier to drive but it’s adding an element of complexity between you and what you want the car to do.

However I now drive an electric car these don’t have gears and they are a revelation. Especially because electric motors don’t have to spin up to get any power out of them. There is no need for kick down you just plant your right foot and it goes like a stabbed rat.

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By *arleycplCouple over a year ago

Leyburn

"both drive Autos and would never go back to a manual, except our bikes.

Problem with modern manuals is they have dual mass flywheel which are unreliable and often when the clutch goes the flywheel neds replacing and around £500 for one most cars would be a right off

Andy ex mechanic

Better 'maybe' £500 on a dual mass and clutch kit, than 'maybe' £8k on a new auto gearbox if they go wrong.

Sid, still in the motor trade

Modern autos are very reliable os it's IF they go wrong rather than when a dual mass fails, my Bclass has 14000 on the clock and only ever had regular oil changes, Marie's C max the dual mass failed at 35000

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By *innamon!Woman over a year ago

no matter

I have a beautiful SLK automatic, nearly 8 years old now only done 14k to date.

The first one I had was manual so glad I changed, never having driven automatic before . Found it really easy and less stressful on my arthriticky fingers . Would not go back to manual now .

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS over a year ago

London

Manual. I enjoy driving and automatics make me feel disconnected from the car.

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By *lascumMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"I drive a manual with a hand operated clutch, because I like changing gear.

I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring.....

This is my fear, finding it too boring, I love driving and don't want the fun taking out of it x"

I would defy you to say my auto is not fun

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By *ris GrayMan over a year ago

Dorchester

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

Why on earth did you have it towed back there??

"
well because I had paid them £600 so I'm buggered either way lost £4000 on a scrap car lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary

Pros;

It's clean

Mileage is 48k

Cons

It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers....

So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive?

And what's your take on autos??

Why on earth did you have it towed back there??

well because I had paid them £600 so I'm buggered either way lost £4000 on a scrap car lol

So you bought a crap car but what does any of that have to do with manual v auto?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

I have only driven an auto once, I hated the experience. When ever I used the brakes, the car still would try to drive.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unless I have completely got the wrong end of the stick, a paddle shift isn’t actually an ‘automatic ‘ is it.

You are still determining when the change happens and to which gear. It’s just clutchless.

Paddle shifts are just a means to select the gears manually rather than letting the gearbox do its own thing. Automatics come in two forms, traditional autos with torque converters and twin clutch boxes so definitely not clutchless. Both will operate in fully auto mode but can allow you to select the gears for yourself, some will allow you to bounce off the rev limiter others will change up at the red line even when in 'manual' mode.

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By *eneralKenobiMan over a year ago

North Angus

Manual but I can switch between the two pretty easily

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Prefer manual rwd but last ones were automatic (rwd)

635d was hard to find a decent one manual in this country."

I imagine it was as it wasn't a factory option on any of the *35d's - the M57 6 speed was determined by BMW to be unable to handle the torque put out on the twin turbo variants.

Now that neeky fast

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