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Food banks & kids clothes banks..

By *ubmissiveman2u OP Man over a year ago

Cheshire

What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

You can ‘truss’ them to screw the poor over.

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By *iger4uWoman over a year ago

In my happy place

They dont want us to have a life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have had food banks and clothing banks in this country for decades however it is disgusting that they are busier than ever.

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Heat banks are being proposed too. For those that can’t afford to heat their homes this winter, to sit and get some warmth. Terrifying if you ask me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse."

What I always find interesting though is when times get hard people get more generous. The food bank local to us put up a notice today saying they cannot take any more donations as they have been inundated and don't have the space to store it.

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

This is very true. Covid times showed that. It did for me anyway in my little village.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

A rich village near Brighton had requested olive oil for their village food bank.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple over a year ago

liverpool

So sad

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By *ookie46Woman over a year ago

Deepest darkest Peru

There are designated warm places in my hometown where you can go sit, keep warm and charge your phone, make teas and coffees, chat with neighbours etc

Mainly community centres where the local authority have provided funding

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

This is very true. Covid times showed that. It did for me anyway in my little village. "

I completely agree and it was the same when the Ukrainian war 1st broke out and people were fleeing with nothing. We volunteered at our local collection centre and honestly I have never seen so much generosity in my entire life. In the end so much was donated that a lot of it had to be given to local charities. People are generous but often we are led to believe everyone is out for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are designated warm places in my hometown where you can go sit, keep warm and charge your phone, make teas and coffees, chat with neighbours etc

Mainly community centres where the local authority have provided funding "

It’s lovely to see communities come together like this, but heartbreaking that they have to in the first place.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"There are designated warm places in my hometown where you can go sit, keep warm and charge your phone, make teas and coffees, chat with neighbours etc

Mainly community centres where the local authority have provided funding "

Our local library is apparently a designated warm place. I went to work in there last Thursday. It was colder inside the library than outside in the street. I wore my coat indoors. I was asked not to drink water inside, let alone make a brew! It was a deeply unwelcoming place, to be honest. I hope there are other nicer "warm places" but I very much doubt it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

2010..60,000 food bank parcels handed out..

2021..2,540,000..

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By *ubmissiveman2u OP Man over a year ago

Cheshire

"2010..60,000 food bank parcels handed out..

2021..2,540,000..

Thanks for the information it's shocking...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"2010..60,000 food bank parcels handed out..

2021..2,540,000..

The figures are just for the Trussel trust who run two thirds of food banks, in reality the figures are higher..

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

Uou are of course right and lots of kind people and hopefully we all do our but. But, it should not really be necessary

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

Uou are of course right and lots of kind people and hopefully we all do our but. But, it should not really be necessary

Sorry just seen all the typos

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A rich village near Brighton had requested olive oil for their village food bank. "

Why is olive oil just for the "rich"? That's like saying "if you're on your arse, you should be grateful for getting cheap shit"?

I've needed to use our local food bank recently and am extremely grateful for the help received, it's been a humbling experience. As soon as I'm able, I'll be putting food in the food banks. I'm not going to be chucking in the supermarket basic brands, I'm going to go for a few luxury items. Try preparing healthy meals with tinned and packet food!!

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

The tories have overseen a massive transfer of wealth from the poorest to the richest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Start a petition to bring the general election forwards... only way out of the mess is to get rid of the current shambles of s41t running the country

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"It's so sad and yes a disgrace too and sadly it might get worse.

Uou are of course right and lots of kind people and hopefully we all do our but. But, it should not really be necessary

Kindness and generosity should not be necessary. I like the irony there

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By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

More food banks than branches of McDonalds in this country says it all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I worked in a homeless community centre a few years ago and thought things were bad then, the fact food banks are now taking in clothes for kids shows how bad things have really got

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

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By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."
and how would we of "lived within our means" three years ago company I worked for went bust no warning made redundant just after xmas few savings as had helped daughter out after break up . Claim UC told takes 5 weeks to come through stretched savings to last 5 weeks then told not entitled to anything as had been paid £1k week before claim (hadnt as paid weekly that was for the tax month ) another four weeks to be told sorry weve lost yoir details have to re start your claim another five weeks before that came through . This is not exceptional this is typical of the incompetence from those dealing with uc .now how were we to " live within our means" for 14 weeks with no income ? Still have to pay gas electric rent councill tax car insurance fuel .still have to spend upto 8 hours a day on line looking for and applying for work attending interviews etc or get "sanctioned" we used a food bank oncein that time was the very basics of food to keep two of us going for two weeks beans pasta soup rice cereal .you dont get to pick and choose you get what your given .suggest you try it before you critisize others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There have been a whole catalogue of errors where this government is concerned, but what I find saddest, is the ever increasing reliance on food banks. A damning indictment of the Tories and, in my mind anyway, their legacy.

#fuckthetories

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By *ellinever70Woman over a year ago

Ayrshire

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

You're all heart

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

I truly hope that you never need help from anyone!!

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

Stopping selling scratch cards would be a start. News agents on one corner food bank on the other I see so many people buy cards then trot over to food bank for there handout.

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em....."

We have had food banks in this country for over 20 years, it's not a new conception, social media has however made them a very popular entity. Some banks are strict in only supplying to needs families. Where other food banks class everyone to have a need and supply to all.

Oh and that timescale spans across Labour and Tories if anyone was wondering...

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By *opman121Man over a year ago

stoke on trent

It’s all gone tits up since covid ,

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..

The Tories have removed about £14 billion from benefits in their tenure, child allowance as it was when my parents who both worked (mum part time) was for all five of us but now it's only two children..

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is not the same as when you or I were growing up, 40% plus of families are eligible and claim working tax credits which is down to employers being allowed to not pay a decent wage but to increase profits..

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

I am privileged to lead a large Regional charity, we run two community groceries as well as other services. Last week a young family came in, mum, dad and two young children. Dad works full time on minimum wage, mum is a carer for the youngest who needs full time support, the tyre on the car had gone and Dad needs it for work, they bought a part worn tyre but this left them with nothing at very short notice. Mum had because she was so ‘ashamed’ taken pictures for us of an empty fridge and cupboards, the eldest boy around 7 years old sat watching his mum and dad explaining to us they had no food, he held his mums hand and told her he was ‘ok with no cereal today’ and begged her to stop crying. That is the reality of life for some in the UK, the working poor and it is a disgrace. Incidentally we gave the family three bags of shopping, which they chose from our shop (dignity is crucial) and our well being team now speak to them monthly to make sure everything is ok, and we sent there eldest some toys and colouring books donated by those in the community that really understand what is happening.

We are now opening warm hubs in our branches so can try to prevent people freezing to death, this is no longer about giving the extras to those in need, a Christmas present or some nicer quality food, it is about survival for some.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

Oh and that timescale spans across Labour and Tories if anyone was wondering..."

The rise in them since 2010 is staggering, it indicates serious flaws in how we as a society are functioning and it's pretty telling when the UN condemn a member of the G7 in its report on the social safety net but Boris shelved it..

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

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By *innie The MinxWoman over a year ago

Under the Duvet

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

Maybe go volunteer at one, it might change your mind.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

There always seem to be some clueless people around with no idea of the hardship some have to endure. Shame really.

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By *lay 4 uMan over a year ago

bolton

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..why always the same old tune it's the governments fault. I found that by working we always had food and a reasonable standard of living. My gripe with government is wasting money ie putting a parasite like Burnham in Manchester God only knows how much his wasteful office has cost nothing to show for it homeless at record high in Manchester. The millions that have been wasted by the monkey on the shoulder of Manchester could have been put to much better use than having a mayor who when the people were asked about voted against. Still went ahead though wasting money.

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

Thank you for being there for when things get tough. You really are a lifeline to people x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

My mother had to take us to the Red Cross clothing charity after our dad left, to get us some clothes.

To say people should live within their means is not understanding the problem.

Have you seen private rental prices, mortgages interest rates rises

Try being a bit more compassionate, you could be in need yourself one day

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

Thank you for being there for when things get tough. You really are a lifeline to people x"

Thank you I have an amazing team of people x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

Were you homeless and starving? Everyone should be like that. It's character building. Clearly made you the person you are today.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A rich village near Brighton had requested olive oil for their village food bank.

Why is olive oil just for the "rich"? That's like saying "if you're on your arse, you should be grateful for getting cheap shit"?

My daughter's daycare is doing a Harvest Festival collection of food for the local food Bank.

Like yourself I am not going to be sending the cheapest line. I don't like the "Just Esentials" stuff myself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

You sound like a Tory MP

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

Some of the people your suggestion applies to are the ones teaching at the local school, they are the ones who will attend if your unfortunately in an etc of all three blue light services..

The nurses at the local hospital, some of them too..

We really shouldn't be in this position where such things were unthinkable years ago but are now accepted..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

RTC not etc..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

12 years of Tory rule and austerity…. Now I am listening to Jeremy Hunt on Radio 4 and again we have another round of austerity coming up… the near future is looking very bleak with such an incompetent PM… this shower have been in power too long and need to be voted into oblivion for decades.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

You’re an amazing person! Thank you for all you’re doing. We had nothing growing up and people like you made it just a little easier!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

Hate this idea of “well I suffered, so they should too”. It’s just so cruel. Wouldn’t you want better for other people?

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man over a year ago

Wirral

Because billions of tax payers money is wasted for example ppe bought during covid scrapped not up to the job. Just recently colour of passport from red to blue more money wasted. The list is so long it's unbelievable.

But to use that money to help the less well off is out of the question.

WTF

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

You’re an amazing person! Thank you for all you’re doing. We had nothing growing up and people like you made it just a little easier! "

Thank you but I am just one amongst a lot people out there trying to make a difference, and on the whole the British public are very generous and caring x

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By *ikesEmBigMan over a year ago

Herts

People having too many kids

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"People having too many kids"

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"People having too many kids"

What brings you to that conclusion?

Nobody knows what the future holds when they have children.

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By *isaB45Woman over a year ago

Fabville

"People having too many kids"

Can you explain what you mean, please?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"People having too many kids"

Fertility rate is approx. 1.6 live births per woman. How is that high?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

It was 2.4 in the 1960s..... Blame the boomer's parents!

*Hides*

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

"People having too many kids

Fertility rate is approx. 1.6 live births per woman. How is that high?"
I just think some people get off on saying something controversial online

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By *isaB45Woman over a year ago

Fabville

"People having too many kids"

You do realise that children grow,and rapidly grow out of their clothes & shoes?

And that people previously considered financially solvent are now having to use these resources?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"People having too many kids"

No, birth rates apart from a blip last year have declined for the last few decades..

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By *ikesEmBigMan over a year ago

Herts

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?"

It's a strain on the system and it's not a new thing either. Whilst we have a society where 20 children are celebrated on TV, but it's ok because they work. They don't mention the schooling, medicine and where the fuck all these people are going to be housed for example. That alone makes house prices rise, more restraints on resources, infrastructure etc.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

How many people in the UK have 20 children?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It was 2.4 in the 1960s..... Blame the boomer's parents!

*Hides*"

My parents doubled that, plus one they lost..

My auntie more than quadrupled it, another auntie also doubled it..

Only one aunt had two..

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By *hrista BellendWoman over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

Oh and that timescale spans across Labour and Tories if anyone was wondering...

I agree. We are not functioning as a society, watching affulent parents take free preloved school uniforms because they don't want to pay for them is heartbreaking. This also happened when I was at school in the 90's, we had a free breakfast club and preloved uniform for families in need and everyone took advantage of them. The way need is recognised is vastly different across society

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple over a year ago

Neath valley.

It's like we are back in victorian times. The rich get richer and poor get poorer.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

Equally if all 20 work they will contribute to the tax revenues which pay for the services..

And some will own property..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"It was 2.4 in the 1960s..... Blame the boomer's parents!

*Hides*"

I come from a large family. People used to comment even in the sixties. I remember one man continually referring to us as 'the tribe' it used to upset my mum terribly. Often part of 'the tribe' were foster children which made us look like an even larger family

I bet he used to wonder where we all came from and why only some of us were regular members of said tribe

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By *ikesEmBigMan over a year ago

Herts

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

How many people in the UK have 20 children? "

Its an extreme example but the country can't support the population and I personally think its kind of selfish to have more than a couple of children whether you can afford them or not

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

But that’s just not true? Stats are constantly showing a decline in people having children.

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By *ikesEmBigMan over a year ago

Herts

Yet the population rises?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

How do I word this kindly to you; the fact you can post this means you have survived someway or another, if you truly had nothing growing up I assumed your cupboards, fridge etc was completely bare? I assume you lived by candlelight and lived in coats and anything else to keep you at best, alive?

There are families, single people, whoever all struggling that can't afford any of the above through no fault of their own, covid hit some of us hard with redundancies, then the cost of living crisis is just another slap in the face for most of us and while 5 years ago "living within our means" was a reality, all the things that have happened in the past three years we were not prepared for, even with saving for a rainy day as someone mentioned earlier that runs out.

There is a difference between having to choose between food and heating and "not having anything".

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

How many people in the UK have 20 children?

Its an extreme example but the country can't support the population and I personally think its kind of selfish to have more than a couple of children whether you can afford them or not"

Ok.

It's a fine balance though because we need a young tax paying population for many reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yet the population rises?"

We have an aging population. People are living longer. But aging out of the work force. The government is even said to be concerned that people are not having enough children to replace all the people aging out. People having children is not the issue. Tory Austerity policies is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

How many people in the UK have 20 children?

Its an extreme example but the country can't support the population and I personally think its kind of selfish to have more than a couple of children whether you can afford them or not

Ok.

It's a fine balance though because we need a young tax paying population for many reasons. "

I do always wonder how much it costs for kids up until the age of 18 (school places and so on), like the Radford family, how much it has cost over the years to school them etc but at the same time when over 18 they will start putting back into the system, so works both ways I guess.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"It was 2.4 in the 1960s..... Blame the boomer's parents!

*Hides*

My parents doubled that, plus one they lost..

My auntie more than quadrupled it, another auntie also doubled it..

Only one aunt had two..

My Grandparents had 3 in late 50s and 60s. Sadly my aunt died when she was 16, but the other two are still around.

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By *ames-77Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em....."

We are far from one of the richest .. poverty will always exist the system was put in place a long long time ago by families that control the banks .. it's irreversible

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

We are far from one of the richest .. poverty will always exist the system was put in place a long long time ago by families that control the banks .. it's irreversible "

Conspiracy theory alert.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple over a year ago

Neath valley.

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

We are far from one of the richest .. poverty will always exist the system was put in place a long long time ago by families that control the banks .. it's irreversible

Conspiracy theory alert.

Not really the rockefella have their interests in quite a few banks.

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By *ames-77Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

We are far from one of the richest .. poverty will always exist the system was put in place a long long time ago by families that control the banks .. it's irreversible

Conspiracy theory alert.

Once upon a time you could use conspiracy theory.. unfortunately so many of them have been proven it's almost now just spreading awareness of the truth.. it's easier to pretend for some people easier than facing the truth

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By *ames-77Man over a year ago

milton keynes

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em.....

We are far from one of the richest .. poverty will always exist the system was put in place a long long time ago by families that control the banks .. it's irreversible

Conspiracy theory alert.

Not really the rockefella have their interests in quite a few banks. "

Rothchilds own almost all of them .. putin is their biggest enemy he kicked them out of his country 12 years ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If whichever government doesn’t do something there will come a point when those who give generously now, won’t be able to themselves.

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By *htcMan over a year ago

Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on.

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By *ellinever70Woman over a year ago

Ayrshire

"Food banks are abused by the rich. "

Do you honestly believe that?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan over a year ago

nearby

2.1 million food bank meals last year

New PM spent £3,000 of tax payers money on lunch at a private members club

Tory wanker MP telling people to learn to cook meals for 30p and then himself claims tens of thousands in expenses.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan over a year ago

nearby

"What the fuck is going on in this country,we are supposed to be one of the richest so why we haveing food and clothing banks. Fuckin Mps I shit em....."

The UK produces around 9.52 million tonnes of food waste each year. WRAP estimates that 70% of this comes from households (6.7 million tonnes), 16% from manufacturers, 12% from hospitality and food services, and 2% from the retail industry

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan over a year ago

nearby

"Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on."

Jackanory

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I'm astounded at how often those who are in need are blamed for the situation they are in.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I'm astounded at how often those who are in need are blamed for the situation they are in. "

Usually by people who have no idea how fortunate they are, or how quickly life can change.

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By *eavenNhellCouple over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on."
would love to know how these "ritch" people get refered to said food banks ? We had to get a chit after going to CAB for help before we got anything .others were the same a referal from CAB health visiter school chutch or other authority couldnt just rock up and ask .we saw a pregnant girl and her partner turned away as they didnt have a referal .

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I'm astounded at how often those who are in need are blamed for the situation they are in.

Usually by people who have no idea how fortunate they are, or how quickly life can change. "

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By *ubmissiveman2u OP Man over a year ago

Cheshire

"Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on.would love to know how these "ritch" people get refered to said food banks ? We had to get a chit after going to CAB for help before we got anything .others were the same a referal from CAB health visiter school chutch or other authority couldnt just rock up and ask .we saw a pregnant girl and her partner turned away as they didnt have a referal ."
that's discusting problem being no body there to marshal it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had a big struggle last year .

I had to go food bank once

I have no family . Didn’t had any friends near buy who could help

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on."

I thought you had to be referred to a food bank?

Also don’t assume just because someone drives a flash car that they aren’t struggling. I know someone who is a car salesman and they are really struggling. The car comes with the job.

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By *alandNitaCouple over a year ago

Scunthorpe

There are several Conservative MPs who have expressed that they're proud of the ever increasing number of food banks... they see it as a fine example of how charitable they are.

Personally, I don't think domestic charities should need exist... they demonstrate a hole in government provisions.

Unfortunately, I can't see a change in this situation unless there is a change of government.

Cal

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By *akingMemoriesMan over a year ago

Toronto

Capitalism. *Drops the mic*

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Capitalism. *Drops the mic*"

In all its cruelty..

There was a bloke in The North East interviewed prior to the 2019 general election and one of the reasons he gave as to why he intended to vote Tory was that ' there are now more food banks than when Labour were in power'..

I swear the pause from the reporter was one of wtf did I just hear..

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.and how would we of "lived within our means" three years ago company I worked for went bust no warning made redundant just after xmas few savings as had helped daughter out after break up . Claim UC told takes 5 weeks to come through stretched savings to last 5 weeks then told not entitled to anything as had been paid £1k week before claim (hadnt as paid weekly that was for the tax month ) another four weeks to be told sorry weve lost yoir details have to re start your claim another five weeks before that came through . This is not exceptional this is typical of the incompetence from those dealing with uc .now how were we to " live within our means" for 14 weeks with no income ? Still have to pay gas electric rent councill tax car insurance fuel .still have to spend upto 8 hours a day on line looking for and applying for work attending interviews etc or get "sanctioned" we used a food bank oncein that time was the very basics of food to keep two of us going for two weeks beans pasta soup rice cereal .you dont get to pick and choose you get what your given .suggest you try it before you critisize others "

Been made redundant 4 times never a good time but worked security cleaning and even time in a slaughterhouse never out of work longer than 2 weeks..

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"I had a big struggle last year .

I had to go food bank once

I have no family . Didn’t had any friends near buy who could help

I am sorry to hear. I hope you are in a better place now

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

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"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

Labour established the need for an welfare state by being over-generous encouraging people to give up work and survival solely on benefits alone, not the Conservative's fault but free handouts could not continue indefinitely.

For example 100000 + teenage pregnancies in 2008 and 45000 in 2019 with the welfare cuts!

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

.I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

For example 100000 + teenage pregnancies in 2008 and 45000 in 2019 with the welfare cuts! "

Correlation vs causation. The number of teen pregnancies did not decrease due to changes in welfare benefits.

Also, teenagers did not get pregnant BECAUSE they wanted to claim benefits. Other than child benefit and a small amount of tax credit (which are still paid to many working families), I did not claim any other benefits relating to the fact I was a parent at 16. I went to do my A levels when my son was 2 weeks old and carried on from there, including a degree and teacher training qualifications. I've been in constant employment from the age of 17, in some form, often alongside studying.

I was also an advisor on the board of the teenage pregnancy strategy board when I was at uni.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

You lived before double glazing

Well done

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By *en_Dover79Man over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

some need them its true.. others just don't have priorities in order.. for example a girl on my social media today has had a huge tattoo done all down her leg.. she is single mum of 3 now complaining she cant do a food shop and asking where a food bank is...

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

There, but for the grace of God, go I...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Food banks are abused by the rich. The one a few warehouses up, every day full of brand new Audi BMW mercedes, land rovers, old people collecting there weekly food shop.

Even the boss does the same fills his boot usually with bottled water.

If this happens at this one, it's highly likely the same at others.

Similar thing with charity's it's abused to where most of money is spent on them rather than what they should spend it on.

I thought you had to be referred to a food bank?

Also don’t assume just because someone drives a flash car that they aren’t struggling. I know someone who is a car salesman and they are really struggling. The car comes with the job. "

I was struggling and I have a car . And had a van motorhome too .

Yes . Got the code reference throught Universal credit .

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

You lived before double glazing

Well done

And central heating

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

You lived before double glazing

Well done

And central heating

Wow

You and pretty much everyone else in the 70s.

I don't think many that have suffered real hardships would wish them on others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I had a big struggle last year .

I had to go food bank once

I have no family . Didn’t had any friends near buy who could help

I am sorry to hear. I hope you are in a better place now

I’m ok . Thank you . That was in end of lockdown 2 .

Big big struggle . But the fight doesn’t stop .

Is a long story , but since I before the lockdown 1 kick off … has been mental

I’m good and well sorted . Plenty of work as well . Thank you …

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

You lived before double glazing

Well done

And central heating

My Grandparents' house had no central heating right until about 2014. We had ice at the windows and had to wear multiple layers in bed and sleep under piles of covers. We lacked for absolutely nothing. We had everything and more. Having ice at the window and no central heating isn't a mark of having nothing, necessarily.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

.I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

The UN report in 2019 which massively criticised this government in its degrading of the social safety net is worth a read..

We've got food banks in some hospitals for NHS staff, we've had real term pay cuts in the last 12 years for police, NHS, fire as they've not kept pace with inflation..

but yet at the same time we've seen a transfer of wealth to the top earners in society from this government.

This is a deliberate policy across all areas of government to keep down a sector of society by a cruel government..

For example 100000 + teenage pregnancies in 2008 and 45000 in 2019 with the welfare cuts! "

It's been the case that some in society have been able to stay on the dole etc since I was a lad in the early 70s and that was under the Tories..

Tbh I'm opposed to anyone who is capable of contribution to the pot by putting in a shift and doesn't..

And yes like any policy it needed looking at but the changes by this government since 2010 have gone too far and are in many cases cruel if not downright nasty for some people who can't work for many reasons..

As usual the pendulum went too far and some have paid a very high price..

Not sure what teenage pregnancy adds as all teenagers who are pregnant will not be claiming anything but the basic allowance and that's fine ..

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

It's very clear the forums, is a little bit left wing-which is a good thing I believe in saying that I strongly believe people need to take responsibility for their lives and the choices that have taken them to a certain point.

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"It's very clear the forums, is a little bit left wing-which is a good thing I believe in saying that I strongly believe people need to take responsibility for their lives and the choices that have taken them to a certain point.

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare."

And if people lose their jobs, made redundant? People become ill or disabled? People are booted out in "no fault" evictions?

Wages are nowhere keeping pace with increased rents, energy bills, food bills, mortgage interest etc.

SOMEONE has to do the lower paid jobs in society. Who is going to wipe your arse when you're elderly with dementia? Probably someone on bare minimum wage who doesn't get paid for the fuel they use to drive to your beautiful Eden Valley home.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare."

I've always thought they're quite right wing but that probably says something about me

I do agree that society shouldn't require dependence on charity.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

"People having too many kids"

And one day in the future, with some good fortune and compassion, a proportion of those kids will perhaps be a physician taking care of you; a tradesperson repairing the 'whatnots' that you depend on or providing a service that you rely upon.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"People having too many kids

I want other people's children to succeed because we rely on them contributing to society in future.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

"We have had food banks and clothing banks in this country for decades however it is disgusting that they are busier than ever. "

It comes to something, when people who are working need to use them.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"We have had food banks and clothing banks in this country for decades however it is disgusting that they are busier than ever.

It comes to something, when people who are working need to use them. "

Indeed.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare."

There are firefighters using them, and police and NHS staff plus many others who work and contribute..

The Royal college of Nursing recently said that 40,000 nurses have left in a year and one of the issues is pay..

There's something wrong when people in those professions are forced into such a decision..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

There are firefighters using them, and police and NHS staff plus many others who work and contribute..

The Royal college of Nursing recently said that 40,000 nurses have left in a year and one of the issues is pay..

There's something wrong when people in those professions are forced into such a decision..

Surely all of these people in essential roles should just get better jobs. Who needs firefighters, as winter comes with high heating costs and some might resort to DIY fireplaces or trying to work around the electric meter?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned--they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there."

"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides--excuse me--I don't know that."

"But you might know it," observed the gentleman.

"It's not my business," Scrooge returned. "It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!"

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare."

A bit left wing? No it’s the reality of a minimum wage that no longer covers a massive cost of living increase, simple really, political persuasions have nothing to do with the issue.

There are those I meet every day who are just unlucky, multiple issues outside an individuals control can cause anyone’s life to be impacted but I would want a social system that would catch anyone if they fall. And right now it is failing, badly. Come and meet some of the unfortunate people I work with every day and then tell me it is all about life choices!

Food banks are not the answer, in fact Trussels over arching objective is they should not need to exist, but they do, because as a nation we are failing those in need.

And I do know some can’t ‘help’ themselves to a better life and they are frustrating for the rest of society and my team who support them but they are the tiny minority not the majority, that is a false narrative spread by those that would rather ignore the truth than face it.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"People having too many kids

Can you explain what you mean, please?

How many people in the UK have 20 children?

Its an extreme example but the country can't support the population and I personally think its kind of selfish to have more than a couple of children whether you can afford them or not"

We can assume then that you will keep your child quota below the average 1.6, as this is in your opinion too high? Presumably you will be in favour of mandatory vasectomy after first child? Or should it be a condition of receiving any sort of benefits to have compulsory sterilisation, regardless of whether you have yet had any kids? Those claiming benefits who already have kids, perhaps we had better just deliver the children to the workhouse, turn them into an economic benefit. They can always do the jobs like cleaning up chemical spills, crawling down sewers to remove blockages, licking the PM's shoes clean - we won't need to pay them and doesn't really matter if they die as they are all surplus population anyway...

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

Some people are really showing their true colours and lack of companion for the less gortinate in our society, those finding themselves in hard times, the disabled and the vulnerable people. I rather be compassionate that pontificate about lifestyles, use of my taxes and marching them all yo clean the roads. Disgraceful.

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

There are firefighters using them, and police and NHS staff plus many others who work and contribute..

The Royal college of Nursing recently said that 40,000 nurses have left in a year and one of the issues is pay..

There's something wrong when people in those professions are forced into such a decision..

I spoke to a lady last week who called in real distress, her sister is a single parent with a young daughter. They came round for dinner and an hour later her sister was throwing up, thinking her sister was unwell she pestered her all week to go to the doctors for a check up.

Eventually, due to her persistence the sister broke down and admitted she had not eaten for five days not because she was unwell but because she could not afford the bills with the cost increases and the daughter came first for food.

The ‘sister’ is a full time nurse in the NHS.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"People having too many kids

Vote Labour

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

* Now when I was a lass, we had nowt.

** There was 27 of us living in a shoebox in't middle o' road. We had to get up at 4 o'clock in't morning, 3 hours before we went t'bed, only got a spoonful of gravel for us breakfast, then we had to go work 28 hours a day in't mill and pay t'millowner for t'privilege of t'work. And when we got home us mum and dad would thrash us till we were dead.

Oh, we had it tough in them days. People today don't know they're born...

* Satire warning

** Read in a fake yorkshire accent

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

There are firefighters using them, and police and NHS staff plus many others who work and contribute..

The Royal college of Nursing recently said that 40,000 nurses have left in a year and one of the issues is pay..

There's something wrong when people in those professions are forced into such a decision..

The ‘sister’ is a full time nurse in the NHS."

It's wrong on so many levels and sadly only going to get worse for many..

Well done for doing what you do, apart from the hours the emotional impact won't be easy..

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

And if people lose their jobs, made redundant? People become ill or disabled? People are booted out in "no fault" evictions?

Wages are nowhere keeping pace with increased rents, energy bills, food bills, mortgage interest etc.

Would always choose assisted dying rather than going into a care home to die..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

And if people lose their jobs, made redundant? People become ill or disabled? People are booted out in "no fault" evictions?

Wages are nowhere keeping pace with increased rents, energy bills, food bills, mortgage interest etc.

Would always choose assisted dying rather than going into a care home to die.."

Assisted dying is currently illegal in this country. Whoever assists you is likely to be tried for a crime.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

And if people lose their jobs, made redundant? People become ill or disabled? People are booted out in "no fault" evictions?

Wages are nowhere keeping pace with increased rents, energy bills, food bills, mortgage interest etc.

Would always choose assisted dying rather than going into a care home to die.."

So, should people working in nursing homes be paid enough to be able to feed themselves?

Will you choose not to have fires? Choose not to need the police?

What other essential services don't need to be paid enough to live on because you, personally, don't think you'll need it?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer.

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up.

You have not got a clue, get yourself to a local food bank and hear some of the heart breaking lives people are experiencing in one of the worlds richest economies.

Was very poor growing up with ice won't inside of our window been there before people did food banks and warm room

Wow so you know what suffering is and you want to inflict that on others, at least you would have an excuse if you didn’t know any better

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

"It's very clear the forums, is a little bit left wing..."

No, it's clear that there are a good number on the forum that are decent compassionate folk, who recognise that they might have been fortunate in life and that giving a hand up to those in need makes our entire society stronger. This is not a left wing attitude, this is a caring humanitarian attitute.

Of course there are also some people that use the forums who have no shred of charity within their souls, if indeed they have souls of any kind. I assign no specific political leanings to these people.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer. "

Maybe we should go back to workhouses.

For the children too.

Please sir, I want some more!

Moooore?!

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

"It's very clear the forums, is a little bit left wing...

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer. "

Worked for Kwik Save and I cleaned toilets for a job, not some rich middle-class family also washed cows' stomachs out so they could be used for tripe you can not tell me about low pay hard jobs.

This was my opportunity as a dyslexic kid.

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By *eroLondonMan over a year ago

Covent Garden

Stronger tax laws and employment laws are maybe the answer but not food banks or welfare.

And if people lose their jobs, made redundant? People become ill or disabled? People are booted out in "no fault" evictions?

Wages are nowhere keeping pace with increased rents, energy bills, food bills, mortgage interest etc.

Would always choose assisted dying rather than going into a care home to die.."

•

It's ironic how those who choose "assisted" dying still want a helping hand from others....in their dying.

Hopefully the 'assisters' will be paid enough and won't succumb to food banks.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Heat banks are being proposed too. For those that can’t afford to heat their homes this winter, to sit and get some warmth. Terrifying if you ask me. "
. I have heard of Food Banks but Heat Banks is not one I have heard of before.Yes it’s terrifying and can not be easy for a parent to decide whether to eat or heat their families.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer.

Worked for Kwik Save and I cleaned toilets for a job, not some rich middle-class family also washed cows' stomachs out so they could be used for tripe you can not tell me about low pay hard jobs.

This was my opportunity as a dyslexic kid.

Right, and we're telling you that now, in 2022, people on minimum wage cannot afford to live even very basic lives. This is because the basic cost of living far exceeds the amount you earn on minimum wage. Hope this helps?

For reference, neither of us earns min wage. We are comfortable enough, but we haven't forgotten about our upbringings, neither of which were comfortable (financially or otherwise). We struggled massively in the early 2000s as students with a child to care for. Yes, we managed, but it was grim and we wouldn't wish it on people now, if there's a better way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

still child benefit per child unless its changed again it was tax credits that was only paid for 2 kids jnless you had twins

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple over a year ago

Cumbria

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer.

Worked for Kwik Save and I cleaned toilets for a job, not some rich middle-class family also washed cows' stomachs out so they could be used for tripe you can not tell me about low pay hard jobs.

This was my opportunity as a dyslexic kid.

But many can but still fail to be responsible and it's wrong in my opinion I respect your opinion but we disagree and will never find common ground on this issue.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"still child benefit per child unless its changed again it was tax credits that was only paid for 2 kids jnless you had twins "

Indeed. For the eldest or only child,£21.80 per week. Additional children £14.45 a week per child.

Hardly going to be living the life of Riley on £36.25 a week if you have two children.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer.

Worked for Kwik Save and I cleaned toilets for a job, not some rich middle-class family also washed cows' stomachs out so they could be used for tripe you can not tell me about low pay hard jobs.

This was my opportunity as a dyslexic kid.

But many can but still fail to be responsible and it's wrong in my opinion I respect your opinion but we disagree and will never find common ground on this issue."

You still haven't explained how people working on minimum wage (who struggle and might need handouts) are irresponsible?

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By *ryandseeMan over a year ago

Yorkshire

I am out of here, sad to see such lack of compassion and thinking driven by pure political dogma and almost hatred of others who find themselves in need. I feel blessed that I have none of those characteristics and none of my family of close friends do either. I do whatever I can to help and pass no judgement for those less fortunate or driven by misguided politics, exaggerated media stories of scroungers, benefits cheats and the like. There will always be some. I am only interested in the plight of the many who have and will continue to suffer because they can't support themselves and their families either through bad luck, heath issues, disability, low wages and general lack of opportunity. The alternative is just purely despicable and have no time for those in that camp ( and nothing to do with politics, just common decency)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A rich village near Brighton had requested olive oil for their village food bank.

Why is olive oil just for the "rich"? That's like saying "if you're on your arse, you should be grateful for getting cheap shit"?

This kind of thing has always annoyed me and it's always like their beggars can't be chooses type thing. At the food bank I worked in we were very passionate about making sure people had as much choice as possible.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I worked in a homeless community centre a few years ago and thought things were bad then, the fact food banks are now taking in clothes for kids shows how bad things have really got"

A lot of them have always done this and a lot of places have separate cloths banks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do not believe there is a need for this in the UK people need to live within their means.

We had nothing growing up."

This is not a race to the bottom!

Having nothing is not something we should aim for or except and if I have a few spare pounds and can put some food in a supermarket trolley that will be distributed to those that need it then that's what I will do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Heat banks are being proposed too. For those that can’t afford to heat their homes this winter, to sit and get some warmth. Terrifying if you ask me. . I have heard of Food Banks but Heat Banks is not one I have heard of before.Yes it’s terrifying and can not be easy for a parent to decide whether to eat or heat their families."

There's already fuel vouchers at food banks. Has been for quite some time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's already fuel vouchers at food banks. Has been for quite some time "

Yes they 1st started giving out vouchers for gas and electric at my local food bank in 2013.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Nothing changes, ever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nope, nothing ever changes. Reality is always the same if you fall through the cracks you're screwed. I'm very fortunate to be in good health, full time employment and can afford to pay my bills. But it's a constant round of working overtime, looking for bargains, being savvy with deals on utilities. As for most of us of course! But when you're working mostly a 50hr week, and then someone suggests you could maybe 'work more hours, or eat beans 7 days a week' as a helpful suggestion

Or the good old standby of retrain/get more qualifications. I have plenty of those already

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

There's already fuel vouchers at food banks. Has been for quite some time

Yes they 1st started giving out vouchers for gas and electric at my local food bank in 2013. "
. I honestly didn’t know there was a fuel voucher.I am guessing it maybe for those that are on those keys / cards or can it be used to pay a bill.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Nope, nothing ever changes. Reality is always the same if you fall through the cracks you're screwed. I'm very fortunate to be in good health, full time employment and can afford to pay my bills. But it's a constant round of working overtime, looking for bargains, being savvy with deals on utilities. As for most of us of course! But when you're working mostly a 50hr week, and then someone suggests you could maybe 'work more hours, or eat beans 7 days a week' as a helpful suggestion

Or the good old standby of retrain/get more qualifications. I have plenty of those already

Yeah millionaires telling people with little or no money to manage better and work harder while instilling fear of any alternative way of living in the general population. It's awful

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?"
. I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Capitalism. *Drops the mic*

In all its cruelty..

I swear the pause from the reporter was one of wtf did I just hear.."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?.

I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people."

Same, for the same reason. But seems to be a bad thing as it apparently means I think people using food banks should only have the cheap stuff.

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By *ovethehankypanky2Couple over a year ago

Warrington

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer.

Worked for Kwik Save and I cleaned toilets for a job, not some rich middle-class family also washed cows' stomachs out so they could be used for tripe you can not tell me about low pay hard jobs.

This was my opportunity as a dyslexic kid.

But many can but still fail to be responsible and it's wrong in my opinion I respect your opinion but we disagree and will never find common ground on this issue."

And there is the false narrative peddled by those that do not want to not face the reality.

Yes there is a TINY minority who are not responsible, there is a TINY minority who will use services when they can afford not to. It is NOT a ‘many’ and that demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the facts.

My advice go volunteer somewhere locally and see for yourself, rather than believing the right wing press.

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?.

I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people.

Same, for the same reason. But seems to be a bad thing as it apparently means I think people using food banks should only have the cheap stuff.

"
. I understand what you mean but sorry if this is a bit heartless but surely a own brand of baked beans is better than nothing also you don’t know the person circumstances that donated that can of baked beans maybe they are struggling as well.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?"

Our local food bank sometimes lists the items they need on Facebook I'd buy however many of them I could afford. Otherwise do what you think best. I buy supermarket soup for myself so I wouldn't think twice about buying it for someone else.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?.

I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people.

Same, for the same reason. But seems to be a bad thing as it apparently means I think people using food banks should only have the cheap stuff.

Some people are never happy. I donate Aldi and Lidl stuff too. So shoot me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?.

I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people.

Same, for the same reason. But seems to be a bad thing as it apparently means I think people using food banks should only have the cheap stuff.

Forgive me if this sounds blunt, it's not meant to at all but anyone that is having to use a food Bank through no fault of their own, shouldn't go expecting branded items or luxury items, while yes in a perfect world (if it was a perfect world we wouldn't be having the conversation) it would be lovely to have on the shelves only the best brands to those in need but in reality, alot of the time, the people donating the food sometimes are on hard times themselves. Anyone visiting a food Bank and turns their noses up at non branded items (and I have heard it happen) need to take a step back and relook at their situation....and more often than not, non branded is actually nicer!

* Please understand I was not being rude to anyone in this thread.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Having been on the receiving end of charity I can understand what it feels like to have the most basic choice removed from you. You're already feeling humiliated by having to be given one of the most basic items in life, food. A further humiliation is having to accept what someone else has chosen and be grateful for it all the while feeling the pity of other people. It's awful and one of the reasons I never buy food for homeless people, preferring to give them money and choice.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

We go with the idea that it's better to give more, own brand stuff is fine and we use some products ourselves..

Better surely to help to give enough for three meals than two..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Some people donate out of date stuff. I don't think they should do that

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Some people donate out of date stuff. I don't think they should do that"

Agreed..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I only have the spare money to buy 6 cans of supermarket soup or 1 can of Heinz souo, which should I buy to put in the food bank collection bin?.

I tend to put in the supermarket own brands of baked beans , soup , pasta as I feel that you get more items for the same money there by potentially helping more people.

Same, for the same reason. But seems to be a bad thing as it apparently means I think people using food banks should only have the cheap stuff.

Forgive me if this sounds blunt, it's not meant to at all but anyone that is having to use a food Bank through no fault of their own, shouldn't go expecting branded items or luxury items, while yes in a perfect world (if it was a perfect world we wouldn't be having the conversation) it would be lovely to have on the shelves only the best brands to those in need but ** in reality, alot of the time, the people donating the food sometimes are on hard times themselves.** Anyone visiting a food Bank and turns their noses up at non branded items (and I have heard it happen) need to take a step back and relook at their situation....and more often than not, non branded is actually nicer!

* Please understand I was not being rude to anyone in this thread.

I understand what you're saying.

Especially **

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Having been on the receiving end of charity I can understand what it feels like to have the most basic choice removed from you. You're already feeling humiliated by having to be given one of the most basic items in life, food. A further humiliation is having to accept what someone else has chosen and be grateful for it all the while feeling the pity of other people. It's awful and one of the reasons I never buy food for homeless people, preferring to give them money and choice. "

Fair point well made.

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By *ellinever70Woman over a year ago

Ayrshire

" Anyone visiting a food Bank and turns their noses up at non branded items (and I have heard it happen) need to take a step back and relook at their situation....

Is it possible that they're just scunnered at their situation and lack of choice if they have to rely on food banks?

Or should they just be grateful for the charity?

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By *essiCouple over a year ago

suffolk

Give what you can afford to give,it's all appreciated no matter how small..

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By *lowercandyWoman over a year ago

Lancashire

"And in any case, we split hairs.

Who serves you at the supermarket?

Who cleans the toilets at your workplace?

Who sweeps the streets?

People on minimum pay is the answer. "

No one is serving me at a supermarket because more are forcing customers to use self scan... Not have a choice.. just no longer having people on tills

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