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"So much for the freedom of the press and media. I know, let's tip someone over the edge today! " I wonder if the Australian radio station who thought it would be funny are running this story, I somehow doubt it. | |||
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"What a dreadful situation. Poor woman must have been distraught. How very sad for her family and children. I hope the australians who did this feel sick to their stomachs for the pain caused. hope they lose their jobs ." Unfortunately they will be elevated in the media ranks.....a bit like Piers Moron(morgan) scum. | |||
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"I'm sure the radio presenter would never in a million years have expected this to happen" true... but their names will now be infamous with this incident... and I bet it is a long, long time before they get another gig.... | |||
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"I'm sure the radio presenter would never in a million years have expected this to happen" u know i like a good prank.. but the fact they asked the questions they did was downright sick! they said they never expected to be put through.. well they should of left it at that! hung up! why is this not a criminal matter? if someone steals someones medical records thats a crime right? leaking confidential information is a crime right? look at what happened to diana cos she was hounded by the press!! isnt oz still part of our queen.. TREASON! | |||
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"There has to be a lot more to it than this...To kill yourself over a stupid prank seems extreme...feel a bit silly yeah but to commit suicide ??????" who knows what else was going on in her life.. with xmas coming up and times hard the prospect of loosing her job now too.. and in such a publically humiliating way! | |||
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"I'm sure the radio presenter would never in a million years have expected this to happen" no reason to ask the questions they did! | |||
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"I'm sure the radio presenter would never in a million years have expected this to happen no reason to ask the questions they did!" What questions were asked??.Its my understanding that the poor woman who commited suicide answered the call and put it through to another nurse who answered the questions that were asked | |||
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"That is so sad, lets hope the nurse who gave out information has just a slapped wrist, but personnally I think she may be struck off the NMC register. " Why should she struck off she made a mistake. | |||
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"I know I started the thread but it seems there might be a mistaken identity, it might not be the receptionist and cause of death is not officially confirmed so mea culpa if the info is wrong. " BBC are repoting that its the nurse | |||
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"I know I started the thread but it seems there might be a mistaken identity, it might not be the receptionist and cause of death is not officially confirmed so mea culpa if the info is wrong. BBC are repoting that its the nurse" Yes sky news has just shown a hospital spokesman confirming it was the nurse | |||
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"There has to be a lot more to it than this...To kill yourself over a stupid prank seems extreme...feel a bit silly yeah but to commit suicide ??????" maybe she was in a bad state of mind and this tipped her over the edge...its been read and heard by millions of people in the last couple of days maybe it was the little shove she needed shocking | |||
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"it has been confirmed by the hospital in a written statement." Dear oh dear R.I.P | |||
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"There has to be a lot more to it than this...To kill yourself over a stupid prank seems extreme...feel a bit silly yeah but to commit suicide ?????? maybe she was in a bad state of mind and this tipped her over the edge...its been read and heard by millions of people in the last couple of days maybe it was the little shove she needed shocking" Absolutely agree...but as i said theres obviously a lot more to it....probably the straw that broke the camels back so to speak...so sad....Unfortunately,if im honest, then this is the sort of prank that would have made me laugh but not for a minute suspecting the tragic consequences | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay." I was hospitalized with both pregnancies due to sickness, 24 hours a day 7 days a week so I know it can be nasty. My heart goes out to the family of the nurse. | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay." If she wasnt a royal doubt it would be but the females here will know better as to whether hospital stays are usual. | |||
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"i think the ones at blame for the call getting through is the sercurty and procedures of the royals.. " Why? The phone call went straight to the hospital It was an accident, until now no one was hurt by the prank and the royal family didn't seem too bothered about it. No one could have predicted that someone would commit suicide on the back of a prank.This is a very sad event, no question but I don't think anyone involved thought this would ever happen | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay. If she wasnt a royal doubt it would be but the females here will know better as to whether hospital stays are usual." If she wasn't a royal it wouldn't be in the papers, that's the difference | |||
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" It was an accident, until now no one was hurt by the prank and the royal family didn't seem too bothered about it. " As prince Charles publicly joked about this yesterday I think it's safe to say the royal's wern't bothered. | |||
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"I just read this and was sicken that the radio station can still joke about it Today the station provoked widespread fury and disbelief by continuing to promote its hoax, calling it 'the prank call the world is talking about' before playing clips of the recording. " Do you know when they promoted it? Was it before this story broke? If so you can't really call them sick, providing they pulled all promotion and recording since the news broke then there is nothing to have a go about. | |||
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"Let's just wait for the conspiracy theories to kick in !" yes i bet thats coming in new s papers sunday . x | |||
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"i think the ones at blame for the call getting through is the sercurty and procedures of the royals.. Why? The phone call went straight to the hospital It was an accident, until now no one was hurt by the prank and the royal family didn't seem too bothered about it. No one could have predicted that someone would commit suicide on the back of a prank.This is a very sad event, no question but I don't think anyone involved thought this would ever happen " Absolutely | |||
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"It is desperately sad that anyone should take their life over this. As others have mentioned, it must have been the straw too many to push her over the edge. But any talk of legal action etc is totally unrealistic. Even if calling a hospital is a dubious choice, it was still just a prank call and not even a particularly good one at that. I imagine the people calling for extreme action will probably have laughed at pranks on You've been framed, Noel Edmonds and Candid Camera over the years. So do we ban all practical jokes just in case someone tips over the edge? You can't outlaw practical jokes just because an unfortunate person takes their own life. It is an awful event but nobody would have expected this. The DJ's didn't even expect to get put through anyway. I think all you can hope for is that people doing this sort of thing ask themselves is their prank likely to have a serious effect on someone's job. " they should of thought things through more clearly! no they say they didnt expect to be put through.. they went too far when they asked medical details on her! obtaining medical details by deciption is a serious matter and deciption is a crime.. | |||
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"what was the intention of the prank?? to act as the queen and prince charles to obtain classified and confidential information? how is that any different from a person going to an elderly persons home and acting as the gas man to gain entry to steal money??" the difference is they didnt steal any money!!! | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay. I was hospitalized with both pregnancies due to sickness, 24 hours a day 7 days a week so I know it can be nasty. My heart goes out to the family of the nurse. " pmsl!!! ... Heart goes out... Yeah i really feel sorry for the royals... Theyve got it rough havent they?... Personally i dont think any of the royals are decent... Biggest benefits cheats in the u.k. So what...shes puking... Big fuckin deal... I do that everytime kiss arse royalists wax lyrical about how wonderful the royals are... | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay. I was hospitalized with both pregnancies due to sickness, 24 hours a day 7 days a week so I know it can be nasty. My heart goes out to the family of the nurse. pmsl!!! ... Heart goes out... Yeah i really feel sorry for the royals... Theyve got it rough havent they?... Personally i dont think any of the royals are decent... Biggest benefits cheats in the u.k. So what...shes puking... Big fuckin deal... I do that everytime kiss arse royalists wax lyrical about how wonderful the royals are... " it does say 'heart goes out to the family of the nurse" | |||
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"what was the intention of the prank?? to act as the queen and prince charles to obtain classified and confidential information? how is that any different from a person going to an elderly persons home and acting as the gas man to gain entry to steal money?? the difference is they didnt steal any money!!!" Money confidential information isn't the issue, the fact is both were obtained by deciption and both are illegal to steal from someone!!!! | |||
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"I was more shocked to find out that morning sickness warranted a hospital stay. I was hospitalized with both pregnancies due to sickness, 24 hours a day 7 days a week so I know it can be nasty. My heart goes out to the family of the nurse. pmsl!!! ... Heart goes out... Yeah i really feel sorry for the royals... Theyve got it rough havent they?... Personally i dont think any of the royals are decent... Biggest benefits cheats in the u.k. So what...shes puking... Big fuckin deal... I do that everytime kiss arse royalists wax lyrical about how wonderful the royals are... it does say 'heart goes out to the family of the nurse" " Yh well certainly one way to make friends and influence people | |||
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"Come on... hands up.... how many of you when you first heard the prank call were calling the receptionist a twat for falling for it?" Yep. I still can't anyone thought that was the Queen's voice on the phone (or even the other grannie's voice). | |||
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"Come on... hands up.... how many of you when you first heard the prank call were calling the receptionist a twat for falling for it? Yep. I still can't anyone thought that was the Queen's voice on the phone (or even the other grannie's voice)." Yh my first thought was how can anyone think the queen would ring a hospital number! But then I thought why kates security didn't have procedures in place that hospital staff were aware of | |||
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"Come on... hands up.... how many of you when you first heard the prank call were calling the receptionist a twat for falling for it? Yep. I still can't anyone thought that was the Queen's voice on the phone (or even the other grannie's voice). Yh my first thought was how can anyone think the queen would ring a hospital number! But then I thought why kates security didn't have procedures in place that hospital staff were aware of" The telephonist sounded as if English might not be her first language. Leaving that aisde (and I've only heard the tape once and have no desire to hear it again) it seems to me she immediately decided it was better to assume it really was the Queen and pass on the call than to assume it was a prank and tell the caller (who might have been genuine) to fuck off. Having made that decision, she transferred the call and (probably) told the nurse something like 'it's the Queen asking about her grandaughter'. | |||
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"Come on... hands up.... how many of you when you first heard the prank call were calling the receptionist a twat for falling for it?" the other issue is that the radio station and the DJ's involved in it were bigging this up and promoting it as the "biggest prank of all time".... so now this has happened, the unforeseen consequence of prank, they are going to struggle to back away from it... it's going to be a career ender for the DJ's and may well be a station ender as they were on a final warning over other pranks that had backfired badly...... | |||
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"Come on... hands up.... how many of you when you first heard the prank call were calling the receptionist a twat for falling for it? the other issue is that the radio station and the DJ's involved in it were bigging this up and promoting it as the "biggest prank of all time".... so now this has happened, the unforeseen consequence of prank, they are going to struggle to back away from it... it's going to be a career ender for the DJ's and may well be a station ender as they were on a final warning over other pranks that had backfired badly......" I wish I shared your optimism. Anyone remember the predictions that Jonathan Ross would never work again? | |||
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"They can get done with involentry assited suicide by law" I'm no legal expert but I think that a law has to exist before you can be charged with breaking it... To be honest this comment, is one of many on this thread that are laughable. Treason? Manslaughter? She wasn't even the intended recipient so there was clearly no malice intended towards her. | |||
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"They can get done with involentry assited suicide by law I'm no legal expert but I think that a law has to exist before you can be charged with breaking it... To be honest this comment, is one of many on this thread that are laughable. Treason? Manslaughter? She wasn't even the intended recipient so there was clearly no malice intended towards her. " I'm just wondering will they take that guy off real radio for his weekly pranks, there's not really any difference to what he does and that Aussie station | |||
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"Its all in the breading thats why we deported most of the arseholes to Australia. These are the sort of people who laugh at disabled people too. with luck the negative publicity will ruin their carers. " I think you will find we have MORE than our fair share of arseholes as well Would be very interesting to hear exactly what her bosses were saying to her prior to this happening they seemed very quick to say they were helping her through this difficult time. guilty people always seem to put their side across first | |||
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"not thinking anything of the causing her death aspect..I think thats a bit too open for many a question. However the promotion of the station,show,radio dj's, based on a prank that has knowingly been associated with their actions is disgusting, the deadbaby jokes crowd love this sort of thing..and of course relish seeing people get angry and upset... for causing entirely unnecessary media torment of this womans memory, and to her surviving family..they should be held responsible for trolling and be fined for unethical practice." | |||
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"They can get done with involentry assited suicide by law I'm no legal expert but I think that a law has to exist before you can be charged with breaking it... To be honest this comment, is one of many on this thread that are laughable. Treason? Manslaughter? She wasn't even the intended recipient so there was clearly no malice intended towards her. " Erm deciption? Isn't that a crime? No they never intended the nurse to commit suicide, but everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. Manslaughter is when someone dies of a result of something u have done even tho u never intended them to die | |||
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"What astounds me is that no one thought it in extreme bad taste to even make a prank call to a HOSPITAL? irrespective of who the patient was, WHO prank calls a hospital ffs? " well.. this.... there are a few other things... it took the radio station hours to put out a statement, and only then they said they are off the air "until further notice" which says to me they may try and ride this one out... and in their news headlines segments... no mention of the story at all.... | |||
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" Manslaughter is when someone dies of a result of something u have done even tho u never intended them to die" manslaughter???? really?? get a grip!! i highly doubt that the prank was the only thing that led to her suicide!! true it may have made a bad situation worse and been the final push for thr nurse but manslaughter it was not!!! | |||
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"What astounds me is that no one thought it in extreme bad taste to even make a prank call to a HOSPITAL? irrespective of who the patient was, WHO prank calls a hospital ffs? well.. this.... there are a few other things... it took the radio station hours to put out a statement, and only then they said they are off the air "until further notice" which says to me they may try and ride this one out... and in their news headlines segments... no mention of the story at all.... " Agreed! I've just checked out the radio station's website. Any mention of this story has been pulled. Also, some UK news channels are also reporting that the Australian broadcasting watchdogs are starting their own investigations into this prank call which has tragically backfired. It was a joke that has gone wrong; maybe the two DJ's should do the decent thing and resign. | |||
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"They can get done with involentry assited suicide by law I'm no legal expert but I think that a law has to exist before you can be charged with breaking it... To be honest this comment, is one of many on this thread that are laughable. Treason? Manslaughter? She wasn't even the intended recipient so there was clearly no malice intended towards her. Erm deciption? Isn't that a crime? No they never intended the nurse to commit suicide, but everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. Manslaughter is when someone dies of a result of something u have done even tho u never intended them to die" Oh please... Deception is debatable but manslaughter? | |||
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"What astounds me is that no one thought it in extreme bad taste to even make a prank call to a HOSPITAL? irrespective of who the patient was, WHO prank calls a hospital ffs? well.. this.... there are a few other things... it took the radio station hours to put out a statement, and only then they said they are off the air "until further notice" which says to me they may try and ride this one out... and in their news headlines segments... no mention of the story at all.... Agreed! I've just checked out the radio station's website. Any mention of this story has been pulled. Also, some UK news channels are also reporting that the Australian broadcasting watchdogs are starting their own investigations into this prank call which has tragically backfired. It was a joke that has gone wrong; maybe the two DJ's should do the decent thing and resign. " well actually the way that the radio station and people connected with it are firefighting at the moment would be laughable if it wasn't for the tragic circumstances... they were still playing the prank call till about 2hrs ago... they remove the page from their website because they were getting slaughted for it... they have taken down their twitter... the hosts have taken down their twitter... they then put up a statement on their facebook site... and now after about 10000 comments slaughtering then there.. they have now taken down that as well... they are going for the keep quiet and it will all go away method... | |||
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" Manslaughter is when someone dies of a result of something u have done even tho u never intended them to die manslaughter???? really?? get a grip!! i highly doubt that the prank was the only thing that led to her suicide!! true it may have made a bad situation worse and been the final push for thr nurse but manslaughter it was not!!! " Sorry I never intended that to come out like I was saying it was manslaughter.. If I did I would of said it was manslaughter because.. I was just saying manslaughter is when someone dies without the intention of the killer. Crime can be indirect that's all | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? " Do we even know it was suicide? | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? " No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry." That's okay then. | |||
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" Manslaughter is when someone dies of a result of something u have done even tho u never intended them to die manslaughter???? really?? get a grip!! i highly doubt that the prank was the only thing that led to her suicide!! true it may have made a bad situation worse and been the final push for thr nurse but manslaughter it was not!!! Sorry I never intended that to come out like I was saying it was manslaughter.. If I did I would of said it was manslaughter because.. I was just saying manslaughter is when someone dies without the intention of the killer. Crime can be indirect that's all" I think you need to read up on what actually constitutes manslaughter. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. " To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that. | |||
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"They can get done with involentry assited suicide by law I'm no legal expert but I think that a law has to exist before you can be charged with breaking it... To be honest this comment, is one of many on this thread that are laughable. Treason? Manslaughter? She wasn't even the intended recipient so there was clearly no malice intended towards her. " beat me to it... laughable and frankly ignorant.. the 'Royals', thought it was a joke.. the Hospital were not taking any action against those involved.. it is desperately sad whenever anyone takes their own life for whatever reason.. it happens every day in this country many times, all are equally sad for the family and friends left behind.. but 'treason'...... please | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? " No, as I said above, the two incidents will now always be linked but they may not be connected at all. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that." they may say they are sorry now... but they have been boasting about it right up until yesterday when they were bigging it up... and playing clips for america about there "hijinxs" would they be sorry now if this hadn't happened... no... they were still playing the clips till 2 hrs ago.... bit late for remorse... | |||
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"What astounds me is that no one thought it in extreme bad taste to even make a prank call to a HOSPITAL? irrespective of who the patient was, WHO prank calls a hospital ffs? " Sadly, the answer to your last question is - Australians. I spent a few years over there and they really do have quite a vicious sense of humour. We don't get Aussie comedians over here much because their sense of humour is just not ours. Tragically, Rolf Harris is the best we have from there. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that. they may say they are sorry now... but they have been boasting about it right up until yesterday when they were bigging it up... and playing clips for america about there "hijinxs" would they be sorry now if this hadn't happened... no... they were still playing the clips till 2 hrs ago.... bit late for remorse..." The radio station apologised, not the presenters. But they have been removed from the show so I suspect they are sorry for themselves now. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that. they may say they are sorry now... but they have been boasting about it right up until yesterday when they were bigging it up... and playing clips for america about there "hijinxs" would they be sorry now if this hadn't happened... no... they were still playing the clips till 2 hrs ago.... bit late for remorse..." But earlier today there was no "outrage" at the call either? No-pne was really bothered so the radio station didn't have any reason to be apologetic. | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that. they may say they are sorry now... but they have been boasting about it right up until yesterday when they were bigging it up... and playing clips for america about there "hijinxs" would they be sorry now if this hadn't happened... no... they were still playing the clips till 2 hrs ago.... bit late for remorse... But earlier today there was no "outrage" at the call either? No-pne was really bothered so the radio station didn't have any reason to be apologetic. " Oh I was under the impression people were upset at what they had done! Shocked that someone would air medical details, I didn't see it reported or heard it spoke about in a good way Now the outrage is that such a public humiliation has had such an effect on one person it makes it all worse. at what point did these djs not think something major wouldn't happen from trying to breach the security of not only a hospital but the royal family?!? Noone could really have foressen the exact circumstances, but u got to be pretty stupid to not think its going to have a catastrophic effect.. | |||
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" But earlier today there was no "outrage" at the call either? No-pne was really bothered so the radio station didn't have any reason to be apologetic. " Id beg to differ .. on their website it was all kicking off shortly after the clip went on air | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? " apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom... | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No. But the radio programem presenters have been taken off the show for the foreseeable future and have said sorry. That's okay then. To be honest I am sure they are very sorry. Who would ever have thought that someone would kill themselves after a prank call? If indeed she did so because of that. they may say they are sorry now... but they have been boasting about it right up until yesterday when they were bigging it up... and playing clips for america about there "hijinxs" would they be sorry now if this hadn't happened... no... they were still playing the clips till 2 hrs ago.... bit late for remorse... But earlier today there was no "outrage" at the call either? No-pne was really bothered so the radio station didn't have any reason to be apologetic. Oh I was under the impression people were upset at what they had done! Shocked that someone would air medical details, I didn't see it reported or heard it spoke about in a good way Now the outrage is that such a public humiliation has had such an effect on one person it makes it all worse. at what point did these djs not think something major wouldn't happen from trying to breach the security of not only a hospital but the royal family?!? Noone could really have foressen the exact circumstances, but u got to be pretty stupid to not think its going to have a catastrophic effect.." I realise that the Fab forums are a fairly basic way to gauge public opinion but was there even a thread about it on here? | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom..." Thanks Fabio.. my point is whilst some probably did complain, one persons humour being another persons 'wtf'.. just wondering how many from this thread may have done so before the sad news.. have a sneaking suspicion it wont be many, could be wrong of course... | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom..." And now they will have 1000's of complaints. A bit like the Jonathon Ross/Russell Brand phone furore when pretty much no one actually complained until over a week after when The Mail got on it's high horse. | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom... Thanks Fabio.. my point is whilst some probably did complain, one persons humour being another persons 'wtf'.. just wondering how many from this thread may have done so before the sad news.. have a sneaking suspicion it wont be many, could be wrong of course... " People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? | |||
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" People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? " I didn't see the humour in the prank in the first place, as I said pranking a hospital is bad taste in my book. | |||
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" People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? I didn't see the humour in the prank in the first place, as I said pranking a hospital is bad taste in my book. " I have to be honest me neither....but then I don't like "humour" where it involves making fools out of people. | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom... And now they will have 1000's of complaints. A bit like the Jonathon Ross/Russell Brand phone furore when pretty much no one actually complained until over a week after when The Mail got on it's high horse. " well the less people who know about something the less outrage their will be, once the media jump on the story its going to become common knowledge.. noone put a thread that i know about the prannk.. but now someone just putting alink to the news about the nurse and said shocking has started peoples _iews about the prank itself.. doesnt mean they didnt feel the same about the prank before tho :/ | |||
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" People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? I didn't see the humour in the prank in the first place, as I said pranking a hospital is bad taste in my book. I have to be honest me neither....but then I don't like "humour" where it involves making fools out of people." Nor me. And people need to remember that there are plenty of British DJ's who do, or have done similar. But I don't like the vilification of the dj's either. | |||
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"open question to all those who were 'outraged' at the prank before todays sad news... did anyone contact the radio station to protest or complain? apparently the australian radio station that did this had had some complaints with regards to this.... so yes there were.... in australia you have to complain to the station first and see how they reply before you go to the regulatory body... so not like here and ofcom... And now they will have 1000's of complaints. A bit like the Jonathon Ross/Russell Brand phone furore when pretty much no one actually complained until over a week after when The Mail got on it's high horse. well the less people who know about something the less outrage their will be, once the media jump on the story its going to become common knowledge.. noone put a thread that i know about the prannk.. but now someone just putting alink to the news about the nurse and said shocking has started peoples _iews about the prank itself.. doesnt mean they didnt feel the same about the prank before tho :/" Like I say, the fab forums are possibly not the best place to gauge public opinion but at the end of the day many, many news stories, particularly the more salacious ones get discussed. And no one bothered. And it was the number one news story on the BBC and in all the papers so no way people didn't know. But people didn't care. As already mentioned Prince Charles was publicly joking about it yesterday. Compare and contrasta to the topless pictures earlier this year. The prank call wasn't funny, wasn't appropriate but at the time didn't appear to hurt anyone and got a couple of Aussie shock jocks some exposure. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but deciding to be outrgaed 2 days on because of a consequence no one could have predicted is pretty pathetic. It's like being outraged by a TV program that you've not seen. That this nurse appears to have taken her own life is tragic, and if it is as a direct result of this then it is unbelievable, but I suspect there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Let's not forget she wasn;t been disciplined and she didn't do anything wrong. She answered the phone and did what any member of staff would have done. Maybe a little naive thinking the queen could personally call at 0530, but I suspect that calls at that time are far from uncommon and she did what she should have done and would have done for anyone else. I'd be amazed if this incident in isolation has led to her taking her own life. | |||
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"I have to be honest, I wasn't outraged by the prank that these two radio presenters carried out, in fact I thought it was quite a hoot, but there again I have a warped sense of humour at the best of times. At the time of the prank nobody was harmed and I'd like to bet that even Kate had a chuckle to think that some crazy Aussies had impersonated the Queen and gotton away with it. I doubt that for even one nanosecond, the pranksters would have intended or otherwise imagined that their stunt would have gone so horribly, horribly wrong and I cannot imagine how they must be feeling at this precise moment in time but I'd say it's safe to assume that they won't be feeling too good knowing that their prank has cost someone their life .... It's so very easy to condemn these to individuals for there behaviour but I wonder how many folk on here have played an innocent joke or had a laugh at someone else's expense ? I have - on more than one occasion .... and have been very fortunate that it has ended up the way it was intended ......" | |||
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" ...................... It's so very easy to condemn these to individuals for there behaviour but I wonder how many folk on here have played an innocent joke or had a laugh at someone else's expense ? I have - on more than one occasion .... and have been very fortunate that it has ended up the way it was intended ......" That's why we have murder and culpable homicide as alternative charges. Things don't always work out as intended. | |||
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" People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? I didn't see the humour in the prank in the first place, as I said pranking a hospital is bad taste in my book. I have to be honest me neither....but then I don't like "humour" where it involves making fools out of people. Nor me. And people need to remember that there are plenty of British DJ's who do, or have done similar. But I don't like the vilification of the dj's either. " To be honest I am not outraged at the prank, I am sure lots of people thought it was funny, I just find it very sad if the to things are connected, and I am sure the two DJ's could never have known the outcome or they probably wouldn't have done it. BUT, it shows that you really never know how people will react to "pranks" | |||
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"I have to be honest, I wasn't outraged by the prank that these two radio presenters carried out, in fact I thought it was quite a hoot, but there again I have a warped sense of humour at the best of times. At the time of the prank nobody was harmed and I'd like to bet that even Kate had a chuckle to think that some crazy Aussies had impersonated the Queen and gotton away with it. I doubt that for even one nanosecond, the pranksters would have intended or otherwise imagined that their stunt would have gone so horribly, horribly wrong and I cannot imagine how they must be feeling at this precise moment in time but I'd say it's safe to assume that they won't be feeling too good knowing that their prank has cost someone their life .... It's so very easy to condemn these to individuals for there behaviour but I wonder how many folk on here have played an innocent joke or had a laugh at someone else's expense ? I have - on more than one occasion .... and have been very fortunate that it has ended up the way it was intended ......" Hear hear | |||
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" People can be outraged about something without complaining to the people involved? " yes some will be outraged and do nothing, agree with that.. but to be then so outraged after the prank (which was'nt that 'funny' in any case)goes pear shaped that you feel the prank equated to 'treason' etc just smacks of 'mild hysteria with hindsight'... | |||
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" ...................... It's so very easy to condemn these to individuals for there behaviour but I wonder how many folk on here have played an innocent joke or had a laugh at someone else's expense ? I have - on more than one occasion .... and have been very fortunate that it has ended up the way it was intended ...... That's why we have murder and culpable homicide as alternative charges. Things don't always work out as intended." So do you suggest that we charge the two presenters with murder ? Is it not the Americans who have culpable homicide and don't we have manslaughter ? I'm no lawyer but I think it would take a clever one to make any of those charges stick ... I really feel for the young woman who took her life but one has to wonder if she had more than this issue going on in her life and was this maybe the straw that broke the camels back ? It's so so sad that anyone should get into a position where they feel that the only option open to them is to take their own life but either way it needs to be kept in context and these two presenters were playing out a prank which sadly took a very serious turn for the worst, in much the same way as we could sneak up behind out bestest friend in the world and shout 'Boo!" then they die of a heart attack ............. | |||
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" ...................... It's so very easy to condemn these to individuals for there behaviour but I wonder how many folk on here have played an innocent joke or had a laugh at someone else's expense ? I have - on more than one occasion .... and have been very fortunate that it has ended up the way it was intended ...... That's why we have murder and culpable homicide as alternative charges. Things don't always work out as intended. So do you suggest that we charge the two presenters with murder ? Is it not the Americans who have culpable homicide and don't we have manslaughter ? I'm no lawyer but I think it would take a clever one to make any of those charges stick ... ............................ " No, not at all. Simply pointing out that even the law acknowledges that the consequences of any given action sometimes need to be treated differently depending on the intent. Scotland has a common law offence of culpable homicide. We also, just as an aside, have the wonderfully named Hamesucken. It is the breaking into the house of an individual and assaulting them with the intention of so doing. In days gone by it was a capital offence and indeed people have been hanged having been convicted of Hamesucken. | |||
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"I did wonder if there was anything they could be charged with... other then obvious stupidity.. something that would could be based on fact rather than speculation... for example it is illegal to impersonate a police officer... would it be illegal in that sense to impersonate the queen for example...or obtaining information via deception? " Would imagine so | |||
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"I did wonder if there was anything they could be charged with... other then obvious stupidity.. something that would could be based on fact rather than speculation... for example it is illegal to impersonate a police officer... would it be illegal in that sense to impersonate the queen for example...or obtaining information via deception? Would imagine so" Wouldn't 'impersonating the Queen' have landed Spitting Image in the gaol? | |||
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"I did wonder if there was anything they could be charged with... other then obvious stupidity.. something that would could be based on fact rather than speculation... for example it is illegal to impersonate a police officer... would it be illegal in that sense to impersonate the queen for example...or obtaining information via deception? Would imagine so Wouldn't 'impersonating the Queen' have landed Spitting Image in the gaol?" Spitting image didn't obtain information via deception as far as we are aware! | |||
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"I did wonder if there was anything they could be charged with... other then obvious stupidity.. something that would could be based on fact rather than speculation... for example it is illegal to impersonate a police officer... would it be illegal in that sense to impersonate the queen for example...or obtaining information via deception? Would imagine so Wouldn't 'impersonating the Queen' have landed Spitting Image in the gaol? Spitting image didn't obtain information via deception as far as we are aware!" The previous posts speaks of "it is illegal to impersonate a police officer... would it be illegal in that sense to impersonate the queen for example...OR obtaining information via deception" I put the OR in bold to emphasise the point. You don't have to be guilty of both. | |||
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"The death of that nurse is very sad. The Australian radio presenters who made the hoax call have rightly been taken off air out of respect. However, if it was suicide we have no way of knowing what part, if any, the prank call played. If it did play a significant part it was not reasonably foreseeable that their actions, stupid and wrong though they were, would lead to her death. I am sure they feel bad enough already. It adds to the litany of media / journalist wrongdoing but as a public news story, that should be the end of it. I do not condone or excuse them but the response has to be proportionate to what they did. Calm yourselves down Daily Mail and the rest of the media world. Leave the family to grieve in peace. " But the thing the got me was that the radio station was openly joking about the call, even after the death of this nurse, the way the media are these days show they have no self respect for other privacy. I hope they all learn from this and leave people's private life's private. IMO | |||
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"Do we even know her suicide had anything to do with the prank call? No, as I said above, the two incidents will now always be linked but they may not be connected at all." | |||
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"the poor waman must have been so distraught at the thought of letting our future queen down that she took her own life and yet you dismiss it so lightly!,prats!. " A statement from the Samaritans suggested that people in similar situations have more than a single issue affecting them. The hospital statement suggested that they were counselling her through a 'difficult' time. Maybe not just this single incident. A tragedy nonetheless. | |||
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"I wonder how many of the ‘outraged’ were ‘outraged’ before Friday morning? I wonder how many of the ‘outraged’ have previously complained about shows such as Phone Jacker or the guy who took over the Radio 1 breakfast show getting his guests to make prank calls every morning. If you were outraged before Friday morning, well fair enough. If you were not, then why are you outraged now? Why were you not outraged before Friday morning…. Is it because you would never have predicted what was going to happen? I doubt very much the DJ’s could have either. In fact they made very clear from the start of the prank they were expecting a polite “fuck off” and they were just as surprised as anyone else they were put through. Whilst I feel for the nurse’s family, I don’t even want to imagine what the pranksters are going through having that sort of guilt-trip dropped on them for doing something countless people have done in one way or another before. " once again Polo speaks a lot of sense!! | |||
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" im trying to get through to the station to vent my anger at them." Oooookay! " why is this not a criminal matter? if someone steals someones medical records thats a crime right? leaking confidential information is a crime right? isnt oz still part of our queen.. TREASON!" Nobody stole anyones medical records though so that ones going to be a little difficult to stick. Oh and TREASON roughly translates to the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign, disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government or of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Nobodies leaked any information other than the actual nurse who isn't the one who's died. " regardless of it being a prank now you have a death it becomes manslaughter." and how on earth are you going to prove the prank was the sole cause of her death exactly " if i was representing the family of the nurse i would be seeking to bring everyone responsible to the uk to face the courts or deal with them in their home land. everything has consequences. " On what charge ? I know it's sad news but seriously, some of you need to get a grip | |||
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"Roll up roll up... Mass Hysteria hits the Fab forums yet again... roll up roll up, read all about it!!! im trying to get through to the station to vent my anger at them. Oooookay! why is this not a criminal matter? if someone steals someones medical records thats a crime right? leaking confidential information is a crime right? isnt oz still part of our queen.. TREASON! Nobody stole anyones medical records though so that ones going to be a little difficult to stick. Oh and TREASON roughly translates to the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign, disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government or of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Nobodies leaked any information other than the actual nurse who isn't the one who's died. regardless of it being a prank now you have a death it becomes manslaughter. and how on earth are you going to prove the prank was the sole cause of her death exactly if i was representing the family of the nurse i would be seeking to bring everyone responsible to the uk to face the courts or deal with them in their home land. everything has consequences. On what charge ? I know it's sad news but seriously, some of you need to get a grip " I say lets get rid of the royal family and this would not have happened lmao | |||
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"Roll up roll up... Mass Hysteria hits the Fab forums yet again... roll up roll up, read all about it!!! im trying to get through to the station to vent my anger at them. Oooookay! why is this not a criminal matter? if someone steals someones medical records thats a crime right? leaking confidential information is a crime right? isnt oz still part of our queen.. TREASON! Nobody stole anyones medical records though so that ones going to be a little difficult to stick. Oh and TREASON roughly translates to the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign, disloyalty or treachery to one's country or its government or of giving aid or comfort to the enemies of one's government. Nobodies leaked any information other than the actual nurse who isn't the one who's died. regardless of it being a prank now you have a death it becomes manslaughter. and how on earth are you going to prove the prank was the sole cause of her death exactly if i was representing the family of the nurse i would be seeking to bring everyone responsible to the uk to face the courts or deal with them in their home land. everything has consequences. On what charge ? I know it's sad news but seriously, some of you need to get a grip I say lets get rid of the royal family and this would not have happened lmao" | |||
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"Is it not illegal to mislead people by saying you are the Queen? Before anyone starts I know she had a stunt double jumping out of a plane etc for the Olympics. I feel the prank call was in such poor taste and if they really believed they wouldn't have got through they should have hung up the moment they did. What's worse is the station big wigs also listened to the tape prior to it being aired and deemed it suitable. Why do people feel the need to hound our Royal Family? I feel for the nurse and her family, why speculate that she could have had previous problems? She has been made a laughing stock in the worlds press and probably hounded by them too - who are we to judge or say that wouldn't be enough for someone to take their own lives? I hope there are serious consequences for the 2 DJs concerned that are alot more than just "being taken off the air"" I am the Queen !!!! arrest me and send me to the gallows!!! lol | |||
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"i know it's sad news but seriously, some of you need to get a grip " a poor woman killed herself because of the pressure!,a life that should have been enjoying planning for christmas and the new year yet plebs scoff and say it was only a prank that went wrong. prats!. prats!. | |||
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"i know it's sad news but seriously, some of you need to get a grip a poor woman killed herself because of the pressure!,a life that should have been enjoying planning for christmas and the new year yet plebs scoff and say it was only a prank that went wrong. prats!. prats!. " And you know that this was the SOLE reason she did it? You know her personally and she told you it was the pressure of this prank that made her kill herself? If that is the case then I will accept your argument. If it's nit then I will continue to believe that this is a contributory factor and that other things in her life combined with the prank led to her taking her own life. The hospital confirmed that there wad no disciplinary action being taken at that point. I don't believe she was named until after she did it so it couldn't have been that she was being harassed outside of work. The royal family were joking about the prank so they were cool with it. None of this points to the prank being the sole reason for someone taking their life. No one has scoffed, all have said it was a tragic thing that happened. All that some people have done is say that it was never the intention of the DJ's for this to have happened. I dont see the need for name calling to be honest, quite a childish reaction to someone with a different _iew to you | |||
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" a poor woman killed herself because of the pressure!,a life that should have been enjoying planning for christmas and the new year yet plebs scoff and say it was only a prank that went wrong. prats!. prats!. " your talking rubbish tbh, no one except her close family may have an idea why the woman may have taken her own life.. which many on here have said is very sad and tragic.. who in your opinion has 'scoffed'.. as for plebs and prats.. no need for it and it further reduces your input.. | |||
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