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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ill be the guy in the middle.
Because they guy at the back always gets it first (to show you how the monster works) and the man in the front always wants to be the hero. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok joking apart I am naturally driven and so find it easy to motivate and drive others. I do tend to lead in most things but really don't like to be out front on my own. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Self perception is always interesting. I dont think you have to be all one or the other but I guess I am like many I see myself at some peg on the scale I do wonder often how others see me.  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Self perception is always interesting. I dont think you have to be all one or the other but I guess I am like many I see myself at some peg on the scale I do wonder often how others see me. "
I believe we are as much how others perceive us as how we perceive ourselves. Self-deception is another thing entirely.
When I go into organisations to look at their leadership and management it always surprises me that managers think they are the leaders when it is often clearly their assistant or someone else not in a management position.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Self perception is always interesting. I dont think you have to be all one or the other but I guess I am like many I see myself at some peg on the scale I do wonder often how others see me.
I believe we are as much how others perceive us as how we perceive ourselves. Self-deception is another thing entirely.
When I go into organisations to look at their leadership and management it always surprises me that managers think they are the leaders when it is often clearly their assistant or someone else not in a management position.
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Well I can agree with that totally as I have had it happen a few times. It always makes me wonder how one got there but not the other. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"My preference is to be a leader, but followers annoy me. So I walk my path if there is anyone who happens to be walking the same wAy I will say hi. "
He he you make it sound like you are Brian out of the life of Brian. |
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By *mileyBWoman
over a year ago
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I think with me this is a bit of a sliding scale ... depends upon the dynamics of the group ... if I'm the most dominant in the group I'll happily take the lead ... but if there's someone either louder or more experienced I'll follow like a good girl.
I think this bears some relationship to our sub/dom tendencies in that we all have a little of each in us and it depends on who we're with as to what role we play.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think with me this is a bit of a sliding scale ... depends upon the dynamics of the group ... if I'm the most dominant in the group I'll happily take the lead ... but if there's someone either louder or more experienced I'll follow like a good girl.
I think this bears some relationship to our sub/dom tendencies in that we all have a little of each in us and it depends on who we're with as to what role we play.
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Its a good way of looking at it. If you are not precious about being one or the other doing it that way you can be most beneficial for the group. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Independent
Not UKIP?
Might be as I'm off for a kip in a minute.
Ha I have a flexi Friday
That's what Robinson Crusoe said as he was getting a blow-job."
No desert island for me though I wish its freezing out. I an taking the lead and having the day off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends if im confident enough with the specified task/situation and have the knowledge behind me.
Im an individual first of all so wont necessarily be a follower but it could come across as that if it so happens to be my _iew also |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Depends if im confident enough with the specified task/situation and have the knowledge behind me.
Im an individual first of all so wont necessarily be a follower but it could come across as that if it so happens to be my _iew also"
spot on 
At work my job means sometimes i have to follow: my boss gives the orders and we do what we do as sometimes there is no time to debate the pros and cons of an action. Thats not to say we are sheep tho, just disciplined.
My own part-time job (my own firm) makes me a leader*
In the real world its a mixture, depending on the situation and simply whether I can be arsed. A lot of people who clamour to be leaders are gobs-on-sticks, usually those who can just *do* and others follow based on example.
*I'm the Boss. Also the worker, tea boy and secretary. The pleasure of being self-employed
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This reminds me of that bit in Life of Brian when Brian says "You're all individual" and the entire crowd say "Yes, we're all individual" apart from one person who then pipes up "I'm not..."
To that end, I'm a recalcitrant follower with no gumption or desire to lead anything. I prefer to be led and thought for and to hide anonymous among the masses of like-minded folk. I'm part of the great unwashed - cannon fodder - the mindless majority who like to be told what to do, when though not necessarily why.
Of course all that changes if you are leading a charge against the local Cadbury's factory where the thought of getting my hands on a lifetimes supply of Wispa's is likely to turn me almost Churchillian in my leadership prowess.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I exhibit signs of both
There are things I would take the lead on
There are others I am happy to follow
I insist on get out clauses with any following I do tho  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am somewhere in the middle but I do like a man who is assertive and takes the lead in any situation.
Any situation?"
Thats what I put its there in black and white. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I am somewhere in the middle but I do like a man who is assertive and takes the lead in any situation.
Any situation?
Thats what I put its there in black and white. "
Even if the lead has a choke chain on the end of it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I am somewhere in the middle but I do like a man who is assertive and takes the lead in any situation.
Any situation?
Thats what I put its there in black and white.
Even if the lead has a choke chain on the end of it? "
That's a different sort of lead.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"None of the above
Wolf
Go for the bargain bucket its the best deal and you get 1 1/2 litre bottle of pepsi with it. "
And you get freshen up wipes afterwards... result
Wolf
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends on the dynamics really. I know i have maverick tendancies and thrill seek so tend not to fit into either box. Age and responsibility has mellowed me. I tend to pass shouters by... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was more or less called a rebel by one of my ex-bosses. Allegedly I had "influence", and when I said I was not keen on the ideas from the brown-noses and arse-lickers within the corporate food chain, the others would follow, and I was told to be more supportive etc...
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"have done both..
equally comfortable in both roles, if following its about supporting etc..
on the other hand whilst leading equally comfortable seeking advice if not sure etc..
no I in team.."
Leading from the centre. |
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"have done both..
equally comfortable in both roles, if following its about supporting etc..
on the other hand whilst leading equally comfortable seeking advice if not sure etc..
no I in team..
Leading from the centre."
yes i would agree, in certain environments or professions thats absolutely fine..
in others not so |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It depends on the situation I'm presented with. Following the right people can be good especially if they have the tools that could make you a leader. Just to say your a leader because you can shout above everybody else only makes you look like a fool in front of the very people you want to lead. I believe to be a leader you have to Inspire trust, Listen, Clarify positive purpose and Unleash talent then can one call themselves a "Leader" |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"have done both..
equally comfortable in both roles, if following its about supporting etc..
on the other hand whilst leading equally comfortable seeking advice if not sure etc..
no I in team.."
That's a good way of looking at it you can lead by supporting someone who is a designated leader. |
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