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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis?"experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies."Ex military? I see | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "?? | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies.
Ex military? I see"The silent methodical men . They are the ones . | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones ."The alpha ones? | |||
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"There is, no longer such a thing" What's your definition of an alpha male? | |||
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"There is, no longer such a thing" (nice dress, needs a fossil watch to go with it!) | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "What is you description of a so called narcissistic alpha? | |||
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"I think anyone who has to tell you their place on the ladder, isn’t there. To me, the word alpha means a strong leader. The one people look to and rely on. The one that can lead others. But if someone has to describe that to me then I’m already not listening. V x " Interestingly the term alpha on this thread is being interpreted as being male when in fact the alpha title belongs to the female and always will! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones?"The one who can be trusted. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted."Sounds a bit American and sinister! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister!" | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister!"it's not sinister it's the truth.  | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth. "Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot."You a alpha ? What is your conception. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception."I have no clue what an alpha is? My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way! | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shit" bolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite " Or to put it bluntly "have there own cock up there arses" | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite Or to put it bluntly "have there own cock up there arses"" exactly | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite " It’s the sockman ......good morning fella! Are you an alpha type chap? | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shit" Yup | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite Or to put it bluntly "have there own cock up there arses"" Come on wee man it’s their own cocks......... | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite It’s the sockman ......good morning fella! Are you an alpha type chap?" no im not, I'm not full of shite I'm more of a delta man but i doubt alpha males would get it. | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite Or to put it bluntly "have there own cock up there arses" Come on wee man it’s their own cocks........." Oh I'm terribly sorry, I forgot you have alpha male issues by belittling other male members defects that don't entirely exist except in your miniscule brain...I would let you apologise but you're probably beneath such behaviour | |||
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"Whats an alpha male " Guys who think they are a cut above the rest of the guys at a party, wear tops one size too small, call ladies babe and always have fabulous, well paid, secret squirrel careers while living at home with mum. | |||
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"If a guy says he's alpha, really good looking, an excellent lover or some other such nonsense probably best not to expect too much or him to show up to meet a real person. " Perhaps I will settle for being Omega. The last to leave a party or function and more importantly to ejaculate? | |||
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"Its king of the urban jungle shitbolloxoligy in other words. Fellas who are full of shite Or to put it bluntly "have there own cock up there arses" Come on wee man it’s their own cocks......... Oh I'm terribly sorry, I forgot you have alpha male issues by belittling other male members defects that don't entirely exist except in your miniscule brain...I would let you apologise but you're probably beneath such behaviour "Er ok | |||
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"Whats an alpha male Guys who think they are a cut above the rest of the guys at a party, wear tops one size too small, call ladies babe and always have fabulous, well paid, secret squirrel careers while living at home with mum. "Babe you have it in one! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception.
I have no clue what an alpha is?
My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way!"So now you using a George Patton quote. Funny. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception.
I have no clue what an alpha is?
My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way! So now you using a George Patton quote. Funny."It’s actually attributed to Thomas Paine but plagiarising is allowed in this context! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception.
I have no clue what an alpha is?
My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way! So now you using a George Patton quote. Funny.
It’s actually attributed to Thomas Paine but plagiarising is allowed in this context!"Discipline strengthens the mind so that it becomes impervious to ... fear." | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception.
I have no clue what an alpha is?
My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way! So now you using a George Patton quote. Funny.
It’s actually attributed to Thomas Paine but plagiarising is allowed in this context!Discipline strengthens the mind so that it becomes impervious to ... fear.""Alphas need not apply. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
Where is your evidence to support your hypothesis? experience. I am X military I seen the supposedly alpha pretenders freeze up in dire situations. They just care about themselves. It's a it's about me attitude. It applies. Well I served with 2 para the Geordie men were truly focused on teamwork not look at me.
Ex military? I see The silent methodical men . They are the ones .
The alpha ones? The one who can be trusted.
Sounds a bit American and sinister! it's not sinister it's the truth.
Hmmmm not convinced you septics are a funny lot. You a alpha ? What is your conception.
I have no clue what an alpha is?
My mantra is either lead follow or get out of the way! So now you using a George Patton quote. Funny.
It’s actually attributed to Thomas Paine but plagiarising is allowed in this context!Discipline strengthens the mind so that it becomes impervious to ... fear."Alphas need not apply."odd my manta is British yours is American. | |||
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"Wow … such controversy! Alpha … to me means a leader, a strong respectful personality, sensitive and considerate. A straightforward no BS attitude and an honest opinion. My protector and saviour ( should I ever need it) ….. what is being described by others on this thread is just a dick and an arsehole. (Male or female) I have suffered a narcissistic relationship, and he was in no way an Alpha male. …… x" funny I describe myself as all them but I've never described myself as an alpha male | |||
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"Wow … such controversy! Alpha … to me means a leader, a strong respectful personality, sensitive and considerate. A straightforward no BS attitude and an honest opinion. My protector and saviour ( should I ever need it) ….. what is being described by others on this thread is just a dick and an arsehole. (Male or female) I have suffered a narcissistic relationship, and he was in no way an Alpha male. …… xfunny I describe myself as all them but I've never described myself as an alpha male " You would never need to describe yourself as Alpha …. You just are ….. or not. x | |||
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"Wow … such controversy! Alpha … to me means a leader, a strong respectful personality, sensitive and considerate. A straightforward no BS attitude and an honest opinion. My protector and saviour ( should I ever need it) ….. what is being described by others on this thread is just a dick and an arsehole. (Male or female) I have suffered a narcissistic relationship, and he was in no way an Alpha male. …… xfunny I describe myself as all them but I've never described myself as an alpha male You would never need to describe yourself as Alpha …. You just are ….. or not. x" i don't even think of myself in that way | |||
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"A true alpha, doesn't feel the need to say they're an alpha." Exactly as I said  | |||
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"Yep. The moment someone says they're alpha, it's a hard hard pass." Same for us. It's an indication that they'll have a big ego. | |||
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"The term alpha male makes me cringe. Sounds proper egotistical... " Because it is mate | |||
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"A strong willed man or woman isn't going to go around calling thenselves alpha. They just get shit done. I've know "alpha" sorts, and they tend to be bullying, controlling and indeed very narcissistic. Goes hand in hand with the term. I too have seen such folk a blathering mess when they are don't get their own way. " Fab folk love their categories or labels......... | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab "A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it? | |||
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"A true alpha, doesn't feel the need to say they're an alpha. Exactly as I said "Fight! Fight! Fight! | |||
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"Best way to test if you are an alpha male and believe you are what every woman wants. Next time on a first date, walk into the bar with a confident stride, a firm handshake and say "Hi, I'm (complete here if you can remember your name, if not check the label your mum sewed in your underpants), it's your lucky night, I take it you've already guessed I'm an Alpha Male and then make a growling sound. Let me know how long the night lasts. "You have just described a scene from only fools and horses! Del is the Alpha! | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?" .
There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. . | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. . "But without the red bum.. | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. . "Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description? | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
But without the red bum.. " | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description? "I think it was before I was a mod. | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description?
I think it was before I was a mod. "Was there life before moderating an open forum on a recreational sex site? | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description?
I think it was before I was a mod.
Was there life before moderating an open forum on a recreational sex site?"There was. I roamed the plains and inhabited the jungles of the internet baring my teeth at interlopers. | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description?
I think it was before I was a mod.
Was there life before moderating an open forum on a recreational sex site?
There was. I roamed the plains and inhabited the jungles of the internet baring my teeth at interlopers. "Whilst naked of course? | |||
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"I think 'alpha' has joined 'professional' in terms of fab
A professional alpha..........it has a ring to it?
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There was once a thread in which I was described as an alpha female, akin to the lead female in a troop of chimps. .
Being a mod on Fab I can see an evolutionary link to the description?
I think it was before I was a mod.
Was there life before moderating an open forum on a recreational sex site?
There was. I roamed the plains and inhabited the jungles of the internet baring my teeth at interlopers.
Whilst naked of course?"Natch ! | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so." You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "No. Much as I would avoid anyone who calls themselves that, I think the word “narcissist” is thrown about willy nilly these days. | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
No. Much as I would avoid anyone who calls themselves that, I think the word “narcissist” is thrown about willy nilly these days. "Isn't it just! It was barely used until fairly recently and now the use of a single word has you diagnosed with a very serious disorder | |||
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"Would go near a guy who claims to be Alpha... just an excuse to act like a dick imo" Know what you mean! Another thing I absolutely hate to hear people say in reference to themselves is "Oh I don't suffer fools...". Just says everything about them and nothing about anyone or anything else | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder." Yeah, I see your point, but as you mention, people can claim to be anything they wish, and I've seen a lot of people claim to be "Alpha" but are just playing up to stereotype of what that is. Although I agree and hold my hands up, it was maybe a bit far reaching to describe people like this as personality disorder. | |||
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"To me it's a red flag. " Or maybe a white one? | |||
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"To me it's a red flag. Or maybe a white one?" No. Avoid. | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder."
Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans?
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"Whats an alpha male " to me, i’d like to think of it as them being an all out top, assertive, they’ve a big cock, know how to fuck, with plenty stamina to go a good few hrs., no nonsense and they’re not at all interested in playing with my lil clitty (4.5/5” cock),... all out tops with their big dicks just interested in fucking dirty lil sissy bitch’s...!  | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder.
Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans?
I think that say it all lol"But does it say it all? | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? " A clear thinker. | |||
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"To me it's a red flag. Or maybe a white one?" Why not red and white? | |||
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"Would go near a guy who claims to be Alpha... just an excuse to act like a dick imo" | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? " Whomever please don't let them cause any plastic offence to anyone. | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? A clear thinker. " That's certainly one required trait but I'd add one with the ability to lead too. Personally I think people who display the qualities often associated with alpha humans are the one people look to when things get tough. | |||
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"To me it's a red flag. Or maybe a white one? Why not red and white? " And blue! | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? " Corporal Jones........ | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so." this I like what would be deemed as an alpha male but if he has to tell me he is one then he isn't | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? " the one most qualified and experienced... | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "It's laughable really and just a phrase for that type of person to manipulate people around them. Be aware and avoid that type of person. | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? Corporal Jones........" Don't tell him your name pike | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? A clear thinker. That's certainly one required trait but I'd add one with the ability to lead too. Personally I think people who display the qualities often associated with alpha humans are the one people look to when things get tough. " I think self praise is no recommendation, and those who describe themselves as alpha males are usually not pointing to their better qualities. | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? A clear thinker. That's certainly one required trait but I'd add one with the ability to lead too. Personally I think people who display the qualities often associated with alpha humans are the one people look to when things get tough. I think self praise is no recommendation, and those who describe themselves as alpha males are usually not pointing to their better qualities." That's a bit of a generalisation in my opinion. I also don't agree that self praise is no recommendation. Why is it a problem to be aware of things about yourself you know or believe to be good and *in the right circumstances* let them be known? | |||
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"Like many of these threads. The most important missing piece is a shared definition of the term being argued over/Discussed. Its very clear that many people are using many different definitions...some of which are very far from the definition of an alpha male. It also assumes the profile using the term understands it too. Many words are used in profiles and not all are used accurately per their definition. " That's true. | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? A clear thinker. That's certainly one required trait but I'd add one with the ability to lead too. Personally I think people who display the qualities often associated with alpha humans are the one people look to when things get tough. I think self praise is no recommendation, and those who describe themselves as alpha males are usually not pointing to their better qualities. That's a bit of a generalisation in my opinion. I also don't agree that self praise is no recommendation. Why is it a problem to be aware of things about yourself you know or believe to be good and *in the right circumstances* let them be known?" I did say usually. In my opinion, I wouldn't want anyone who describes themselves in such terms to lead me anywhere. I think it's more indicative of more toxic subcultures. Your mileage may vary. | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? A clear thinker. That's certainly one required trait but I'd add one with the ability to lead too. Personally I think people who display the qualities often associated with alpha humans are the one people look to when things get tough. I think self praise is no recommendation, and those who describe themselves as alpha males are usually not pointing to their better qualities. That's a bit of a generalisation in my opinion. I also don't agree that self praise is no recommendation. Why is it a problem to be aware of things about yourself you know or believe to be good and *in the right circumstances* let them be known? I did say usually. In my opinion, I wouldn't want anyone who describes themselves in such terms to lead me anywhere. I think it's more indicative of more toxic subcultures. Your mileage may vary." Ah I think I'm beginning to understand. I hadn't realised that the word alpha has been used in toxic subcultures. I've never come across the phrase 'your mileage may vary ' before either. | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. " I think it's a really interesting discussion. Not only around the actual word but his people perceive it, define it, how it's changed over time and attitudes towards it. | |||
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"I believe in Alpha males / Alpha females Difference for me is they are not self labellers. They are generally recognised and appreciated for what they do. They lead for the benefit of others and have inner strength and outward love and they don't need a six pack , beard or quiff to do it....." Granny fab needs it’s labels, categories and boxes into which people can fit! You are promoting anarchy with such an hypothesis! | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. I think it's a really interesting discussion. Not only around the actual word but his people perceive it, define it, how it's changed over time and attitudes towards it. " Narcissism or Alpharism? | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. " Pretty much what I said, just not so long winded lol | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. I think it's a really interesting discussion. Not only around the actual word but his people perceive it, define it, how it's changed over time and attitudes towards it. Narcissism or Alpharism?" Alpha | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. Pretty much what I said, just not so long winded lol" Did you ? Sorry I missed that! | |||
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"Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans? I think that say it all lol" I believe that the term was made mainstream (previously just used in animal biology) by a 1970 book on wolf pack behaviour in zoos. Even the author, David Mech, hasn't stood by his work since 1999 The wolves were not related, and in a confined space. So basically 'prison rules' https://www.businessinsider.com/no-such-thing-alpha-male-2016-10 | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. I think it's a really interesting discussion. Not only around the actual word but his people perceive it, define it, how it's changed over time and attitudes towards it. Narcissism or Alpharism? Alpha " The term is largely irrelevant in the human world and is often diluted into assertiveness, organisational and decision making skills. Some are born to lead others happy to follow. Most I have chosen to support recognise the need for the team to succeed and manage the situation and process accordingly. The most successful person I have chosen to follow was very unassuming very competent sure in in intention and endeavour and empathetic beyond the call. All this was wrapped up in superb communication skills. However if a reinforcement of the objectives were required you would be told in no uncertain terms what was needed by way of refocusing. If needed this was done in a calm and very direct way. She was truly an inspirational leader. | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. Pretty much what I said, just not so long winded lol" Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans? You did say that albeit with a degree of brevity? | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "Narcissus are nice in a flower arrangement. Couldn't give a fart about alpha males. | |||
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"Google: “An alpha male is a man who is highly intelligent, confident, and successful. Alpha males are generally considered great leaders and prefer to be in positions of power. Common traits alpha males possess include: Being in a position of power. Being comfortable with high levels of responsibility.”" There are some great very funny definitions on Urban Dictionary. This a good one
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In the animal kingdom alpha males are a real thing and usually live an extremely violent existence while they constantly defend their territory and the females of their species that they breed with. In human beings an alpha male is more of a personality type that usually describes somebody who is arrogant, obnoxious, insensitive, selfish, competitive while also being insecure and often resort to physical violence. Alpha male is a term that people use to protect their egos and in order to explain and validate their treatment of other people.
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? " You may be confusing alpha males with leaders. Not the same thing at all. When I served in the military, their best leaders were considered to be in the top 5% of their officer cadre. I was assessed inside the top 2%. No way am I the stereotypical alpha male. | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. Pretty much what I said, just not so long winded lol Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans? You did say that albeit with a degree of brevity?" Correct | |||
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"Slow down fab funsters! The OP rather naively linked traits of the so called Alpha pack member to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive interest in one's physical appearance or image and an excessive preoccupation with one's own needs, often at the expense of others. The two traits can be intertwined but are can exist in separation. Alpha traits exist in pack animals mainly and are needed to establish the hierarchy and dominate gene line. In the world in which we live there is little need for alpha supremacy as some of are educated and some not. In the plastic world of recreational sex some may view those who indulge in some forms BDSM as having a dominant role in that setting. Just an opinion of a simple chap from the north. Pretty much what I said, just not so long winded lol Isn’t the term “alpha” normally only referred to in the animal world and not in humans? You did say that albeit with a degree of brevity? Correct "I stand corrected | |||
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"What type of person do you want in charge in an emergency situation? You may be confusing alpha males with leaders. Not the same thing at all. When I served in the military, their best leaders were considered to be in the top 5% of their officer cadre. I was assessed inside the top 2%. No way am I the stereotypical alpha male." Yeah definitely wouldn't want someone who goes round professing they're an alpha. | |||
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"I've bumped into a few self professed alphas and by heck, don't they keep banging on about it. You don't exactly have to tease it out of them "Right? | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "I classify them as empty barrels. They still do not know that the man that coined that term was studying wolves I'm captivity, not actual wolves in the wild. Where the parents control the pack | |||
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"I've bumped into a few self professed alphas and by heck, don't they keep banging on about it. You don't exactly have to tease it out of them
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist. "So exactly the same as anyone who describes themselves as a 'strong woman' then? | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
So exactly the same as anyone who describes themselves as a 'strong woman' then?"As far as 'strong woman' is concered my opinion is that people use different definitions of words and phrases according to their age, the context they see the word used in and how a word makes them feel. Also some people tend to become defensive if they feel someone is describing themselves in any way that can be deemed even remotely flattering or displaying a strength of any sort. One must be self deprecating at all times which must make writing a CV or attending job interviews a bit of a nightmare if you only have an hour to display your good qualities without actually saying what they are. I think what's being said on this thread is that there's a certain type of man who is often disliked and he describes himself as alpha. Whether he is or not is another matter. | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder." But dominant / alpha men in real life never consider this a thing even, it’s only places like this and munches where it’s emulated. It’s like people who declare they are intelligent , they invariably are not. I think it’s best to let’s others make those judgements , why on earth would a smart alpha man or woman need to acknowledge it and tell others - it just is | |||
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder. But dominant / alpha men in real life never consider this a thing even, it’s only places like this and munches where it’s emulated. It’s like people who declare they are intelligent , they invariably are not. I think it’s best to let’s others make those judgements , why on earth would a smart alpha man or woman need to acknowledge it and tell others - it just is " It doesn't make them a narcissist or egomaniac though. Possibly misguided and a poor judge of their audience | |||
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However in many real world (wildlife) cases, the alpha of a pack isn't the strongest but the one who can command a few strongish second in commands. From what I observe, those who claim alpha tend to lack in these skills.
The way I picture it is the self proclaimed alphas are the school bully. For a small group of people, for a small period of time, they do "rule". But in the wider scheme of things they end up being life's losers. They just haven't realised it it.... | |||
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"The "alpha" is possibly defined best as being "top of the pack". Of course that doesn't tell us which pack, nor the attributes to get there. " I always think of Jake ‘the Muss’ Heke. I doubt he realises he’s alpha male… https://youtu.be/VJur68GS6gw | |||
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"Our of interest and at a tangent to the op. How do people like others to describe themselves, given that initially we only have the written word on here?" And there's the rub. Met many folks at clubs, socials, parties and holidays and does the real person fit into the description on their profile. Sadly, not always. Those confident, good looking, walking sex gods are sometimes social inept, inexperienced, immature men. Nice guys though, but the initial profile has made them look somewhat delusional and that's a great pity. Better off being reasonably truthful and escaping the other throngs of single males attempting to be noticed by, quite simply, tipping up to one of the many real meets where your real character can shine and where you don't have to be anything you are not. Just a suggestion. | |||
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"Our of interest and at a tangent to the op. How do people like others to describe themselves, given that initially we only have the written word on here? And there's the rub. Met many folks at clubs, socials, parties and holidays and does the real person fit into the description on their profile. Sadly, not always. Those confident, good looking, walking sex gods are sometimes social inept, inexperienced, immature men. Nice guys though, but the initial profile has made them look somewhat delusional and that's a great pity. Better off being reasonably truthful and escaping the other throngs of single males attempting to be noticed by, quite simply, tipping up to one of the many real meets where your real character can shine and where you don't have to be anything you are not. Just a suggestion. "Jeeze Guys calm down its a site where people meet for recreational sex! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
So exactly the same as anyone who describes themselves as a 'strong woman' then?
As far as 'strong woman' is concered my opinion is that people use different
definitions of words and phrases according to their age, the context they see the word used in and how a word makes them feel. Also some people tend to become defensive if they feel someone is describing themselves in any way that can be deemed even remotely flattering or displaying a strength of any sort. One must be self deprecating at all times which must make writing a CV or attending job interviews a bit of a nightmare if you only have an hour to display your good qualities without actually saying what they are.
I think what's being said on this thread is that there's a certain type of man who is often disliked and he describes himself as alpha. Whether he is or not is another matter. "So based on that, it could be argued then that there isn't any difference, just peoples individual interpretation as both have many instances of people who are loud, overly confident, arrogant and go through life believing they're number 1...equally there are people who have the more positive traits for each description. This just feels like yet another in the constant tirade of man bashing threads that are now becoming almost daily in the forum- something that simply wouldn't be tolerated with any other group | |||
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"Term mostly used by unlikeable dudes " Words of wisdom dude! | |||
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"It's pretty much a farce excuse for narcissist.
So exactly the same as anyone who describes themselves as a 'strong woman' then?
As far as 'strong woman' is concered my opinion is that people use different
definitions of words and phrases according to their age, the context they see the word used in and how a word makes them feel. Also some people tend to become defensive if they feel someone is describing themselves in any way that can be deemed even remotely flattering or displaying a strength of any sort. One must be self deprecating at all times which must make writing a CV or attending job interviews a bit of a nightmare if you only have an hour to display your good qualities without actually saying what they are.
I think what's being said on this thread is that there's a certain type of man who is often disliked and he describes himself as alpha. Whether he is or not is another matter.
So based on that, it could be argued then that there isn't any difference, just peoples individual interpretation as both have many instances of people who are loud, overly confident, arrogant and go through life believing they're number 1...equally there are people who have the more positive traits for each description.
This just feels like yet another in the constant tirade of man bashing threads that are now becoming almost daily in the forum- something that simply wouldn't be tolerated with any other group
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"Our of interest and at a tangent to the op. How do people like others to describe themselves, given that initially we only have the written word on here? And there's the rub. Met many folks at clubs, socials, parties and holidays and does the real person fit into the description on their profile. Sadly, not always. Those confident, good looking, walking sex gods are sometimes social inept, inexperienced, immature men. Nice guys though, but the initial profile has made them look somewhat delusional and that's a great pity. Better off being reasonably truthful and escaping the other throngs of single males attempting to be noticed by, quite simply, tipping up to one of the many real meets where your real character can shine and where you don't have to be anything you are not. Just a suggestion.
Jeeze Guys calm down its a site where people meet for recreational sex!"Absolutely. That's why we use the site. Don't care if you are Alpha or any other description. What we want is to meet, in real life, friendly, sexy, chatty, easy going folks, who understand what a bar of soap and a toothbrush is for. Don't care about your political views, your career, your social standing, how much your house is worth, how wonderful your kids are, just a willingness to meet up and sadly for most that's what separates the vast majority. We are big supporters of single guys, the vast, vast majority who actually meet are FAB, just like the couples and single ladies we meet too, no difference. We are not looking for new partners, husband or wife, got one, very happy. Think our verifications show we actually meet. | |||
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"Our of interest and at a tangent to the op. How do people like others to describe themselves, given that initially we only have the written word on here? And there's the rub. Met many folks at clubs, socials, parties and holidays and does the real person fit into the description on their profile. Sadly, not always. Those confident, good looking, walking sex gods are sometimes social inept, inexperienced, immature men. Nice guys though, but the initial profile has made them look somewhat delusional and that's a great pity. Better off being reasonably truthful and escaping the other throngs of single males attempting to be noticed by, quite simply, tipping up to one of the many real meets where your real character can shine and where you don't have to be anything you are not. Just a suggestion.
Jeeze Guys calm down its a site where people meet for recreational sex!
Absolutely.
That's why we use the site.
Don't care if you are Alpha or any other description.
What we want is to meet, in real life, friendly, sexy, chatty, easy going folks, who understand what a bar of soap and a toothbrush is for.
Don't care about your political views, your career, your social standing, how much your house is worth, how wonderful your kids are, just a willingness to meet up and sadly for most that's what separates the vast majority.
We are big supporters of single guys, the vast, vast majority who actually meet are FAB, just like the couples and single ladies we meet too, no difference.
We are not looking for new partners, husband or wife, got one, very happy.
Think our verifications show we actually meet.
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"I don't think an "Alpha" male would say he is Alpha. Egomaniacs or narcissists may certainly claim to be, but that doesn't make it so. You can claim to be anything without it being true. However if someone knows themself to possess the qualities of an alpha and says so I don't think that means they have a personality disorder. But dominant / alpha men in real life never consider this a thing even, it’s only places like this and munches where it’s emulated. It’s like people who declare they are intelligent , they invariably are not. I think it’s best to let’s others make those judgements , why on earth would a smart alpha man or woman need to acknowledge it and tell others - it just is It doesn't make them a narcissist or egomaniac though. Possibly misguided and a poor judge of their audience " Agreed it doesn't necessarily but having an over inflated opinion of oneself is a characteristic of narcissism. And running around shouting that "I'm an alpha" is in most cases having an over inflated opinion of oneself. If true you don't need to shout it and most people who are would not. | |||
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"I bum alpha males Are they aware? Yes " Does it hurt? | |||
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"I bum alpha males Are they aware? Yes Does it hurt?" Their eyes water | |||
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"The dunning kruger effect springs to mind. Anyone who claims to be an "alpha" (whatever that is) is probably not anything of the vague definition." Probably. They probably just chose that word not expecting it to be forensically analysed. | |||
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"I bum alpha males Are they aware? Yes " Aren’t they already up their own arses? How can they tell? | |||
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"I bum alpha males Are they aware? Yes Aren’t they already up their own arses? How can they tell?" Because they are alphas | |||
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"I bum alpha males Are they aware? Yes Aren’t they already up their own arses? How can they tell? Because they are alphas" alpha romeo?  | |||
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"I think anyone who has to tell you their place on the ladder, isn’t there. To me, the word alpha means a strong leader. The one people look to and rely on. The one that can lead others. But if someone has to describe that to me then I’m already not listening. V x Interestingly the term alpha on this thread is being interpreted as being male when in fact the alpha title belongs to the female and always will!" Truth. | |||
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