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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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If they are driving along on a motorway for instance,have police the power to access phone records to prove that 17 minutes ago whilst driving your phone was in use ? |
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I would love to be able to do this, only last week a young woman was so busy yakking on her phone she overtook me then pulled hard right across me into the left-hand feeder lane without indicating, very nearly hitting me.
Unfortunately i believe it is one of those crimes that a police officer has to witness in order for it to actually be a crime.
It took a generation for drink-driving to become socially unacceptable, i personally can't wait for it to happen with phone use.
I actually see more motorists texting/web browsing on their handsets than talking - that's even more dangerous  |
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I imagine that if a member of the public reported it, that it would be held as evidence against that person, and could help influence what approach the police would take, if they later witness the same person on their phone again.
Time, date, location - incl county, car reg, description of driver etc. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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Maybe it isn't a case of shopping the driver and fining them etc, but taking a more decisive course of action.
I have friends out in America, where they run a business in Vermont. The local Police out there have hit on a novel solution. If an officer spots someone on their Mobile, they are stopped and given a choice; either an on the spot fine (and a criminal record) or they are taken to a "sin-bin" facility in town, and held there for 2 hours before being released. No excuses, reasons or pleading to be let out ahead of time are tolerated or accepted.
If they are stopped a second time, the sin-bin option is increased to 4 hours; a 3rd time, it extends to 6 hours and so on. Inconveniencing the driver is the aim, and in their part of the state, the problem has ceased as motorists have got the message. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And that my friend is the reason hands free was invented :p
On a serious not I personally believe whilst driving you should be doing one thing and one thing only, concentrating on roads and surroundings. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And that my friend is the reason hands free was invented :p
On a serious not I personally believe whilst driving you should be doing one thing and one thing only, concentrating on roads and surroundings. "
Not a bad point but are you going to ban radio's on, smoking in cars, passengers talking to drivers as they are all a distraction. Hands free for answering is no different to talking to a passenger in my book but anything other than wheel, gear nob other car apparatus isn't on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its alot harder to proove they where on their mobile when reporting them.
At least with d*unk drivers the proof is still in their system when caught"
Unless they have a subsequent reason to stop you, I suspect not. But if you are involved in even a minor accident the phones are now checked routinely and if a phone was being used, it will influence the CPS decision and be used against the driver.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they are driving along on a motorway for instance,have police the power to access phone records to prove that 17 minutes ago whilst driving your phone was in use ?"
but that doesn't apply to a roads, b roads or city streets
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
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"And that my friend is the reason hands free was invented :p
On a serious not I personally believe whilst driving you should be doing one thing and one thing only, concentrating on roads and surroundings.
Not a bad point but are you going to ban radio's on, smoking in cars, passengers talking to drivers as they are all a distraction. Hands free for answering is no different to talking to a passenger in my book but anything other than wheel, gear nob other car apparatus isn't on. "
Hear what you are saying, although I disagree that it is no different. The only times I have ever been caught over the 30 limit has involved hands free phone calls |
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We've seen a driver using his lap top that was in the passenger seat and lorry drivers watching DVDs. Would the police take any action if we reported them given that it would have been our word only? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I drive daily,,,i tailgated a "half an hour to pass" snail n motorway, phone went as they eventually moved over, but they moved over trying to video me on phone camera in mirror, who is the bad guy ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I drive daily,,,i tailgated a "half an hour to pass" snail n motorway, phone went as they eventually moved over, but they moved over trying to video me on phone camera in mirror, who is the bad guy ??"
Both! Tailgating is potentially very dangerous, as is videoing other drivers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone!"
Get a life. |
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"We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone!
Get a life."
Why?
It has been shown in at least two different studies that using a handheld phone whilst driving impairs the decision-making process more than being just over the drink drive limit, and that isn't even beginning to address the dangers of people who drive whilst looking at websites and/or texting on their handsets. |
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"We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone!"
i see more woman doing make up in the mirror than i do people using phones whilst driving |
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"We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone!
i see more woman doing make up in the mirror than i do people using phones whilst driving"
Unfortunately i see people at every major junction, every day i commute using their phones. 
The ones that get me are the idiots playing with their phones in their laps, not realising that their phones are lighting up the car interior making it blatantly obvious what they are doing.
Perhaps the penalties simply aren't high enough? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have seen how many people wouldn.t hesitate to shop a d*unken driver,government stats show its just as dangerous if not more when a person is using a phone!"
Before the wearing of seat belts became compulsory less people wore them that those who didn't.
When mobile phones first came out less people refrained from using them whilst driving than those who did.
It takes a law to make people law breakers, and it takes a miserable asshole to grass on unsuspecting fellow motorists.
As said already in this thread, when the police attend an RTA one of the first things they do is request mobile phone records for the parties involved. If they weren't using their phones then that can be discounted as a possible cause for the accident, but if they discover a mobile phone was in use it tends to become the main culprit for the entire crash.
Wouldn't it be lovely if those condescending grassers had never travelled without wearing a seatbelt, or had never used a mobile whilst driving BEFORE it became illegal to do either. Then I might have some empathy with them.  |
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