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"Jeeze another royal is pregnant and i truly wish them well but as a country we are broke and bar queen and hubby the rest should not receive one penny of public money. We have folk who cannot afford to heat their homes yet royals take money they do not earn and bleed us dry. Am not totally anti royal as think having a figure head is good but thats as far as it goes."  | |||
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"i just think its realy boring the way they go on and on about it. people have babies all the time. why cant they just mention it once?" I must admit thats the bit thats going to annoy me. I bet newspaper editors all over the land are having vapours about all the baby articles they'll be able to do now. | |||
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"Bearing in mind that the future King of Great Britain's wife is pregnant with the next monarch after him I think it is prefectly reasonable that they receive money from the public purse. If you were talking about his 7th cousin on his mum's pet cat's side thrice removed then I'd say you have a point. Well done Wills & Kate, best news I've heard all day. " | |||
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"i just think its realy boring the way they go on and on about it. people have babies all the time. why cant they just mention it once?" Agreed. We've got nine months of this now - I'm bored already  | |||
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"The Queen of the Netherlands lives in a semi-detached house, I think." Our Queen lives in several-detached houses  | |||
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"Well we think its brilliant news! Wills works for a living remember! Good luck to them " Its good he works so therefore like others should have to live off his wage and not taxpayers. | |||
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"Well we think its brilliant news! Wills works for a living remember! Good luck to them Its good he works so therefore like others should have to live off his wage and not taxpayers." I think you may find he does live off his wages.... | |||
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"i just think its realy boring the way they go on and on about it. people have babies all the time. why cant they just mention it once? Agreed. We've got nine months of this now - I'm bored already "Only just over 6 months - she's nearly 12 weeks gone. | |||
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"Well we think its brilliant news! Wills works for a living remember! Good luck to them Its good he works so therefore like others should have to live off his wage and not taxpayers. I think you may find he does live off his wages.... " I think you'll find his salary as a pilot is only around £45k... so I read somewhere. So the tax payer does foot some of the bill.... but I think they are worth it. | |||
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"Good luck to them, what people fail to realise is, take the royal family away and tourism would plummet, " Has anyone ever provided any definitive proof of this? Personally I think it's nonsense | |||
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"Good luck to them, what people fail to realise is, take the royal family away and tourism would plummet, " £20 Billion spent by tourists in London alone every year, I'm guessing an awful lot of that is due to us having a monarch and is a major part of the attraction for foreign visitors. | |||
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"Maybe they will call the baby 'Olympia'." Did they christen the stadium  | |||
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"Not King of Great Britain but United Kingdom" oops - apologies to our Northern Irish brethren. | |||
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"yawn yawn yawn ,boring" Aw dont say that... I dont think you are boring at all | |||
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"The Mail Online is infatuated with 'Baby Bumps' and 'Post Baby Bodies' I think they've shown every pregnant celeb on the planet at some stage during their pregnancy. I wonder if this will be another 'Baby Bump' Mail Online feature ? God only knows what the fascination is with baby bumps "the mail got so excited earlier they called them the 'Duke and Cambridge of Cambridge' | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " Give me your address and I'll send you your 60p....  | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX "
WoW, so much hatred for an unborn baby!  | |||
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"In many European countries (and beyond) ordinary folks really love the Royals, buy magazines and souvenirs when visiting the UK. My own family follow the Royal family's news probably more than I do. For those of you against... please don't shoot me but hey are great for the UK from a foreigner's point of _iew. " I had my aunts from Canada and America on the phone all the way through the wedding and Jubilee celebrations. I have never had an overseas visitor who has not asked to go to see Buck Palace and/or the Tower of London. It costs me a fortune. | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " I find that offensive. Totally and utterly offensive. If you feel that strongly against living in a country that has a constitutional monarchy then feel free to bugger off and live in a country that doesn't have one.  | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them." I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me. | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them." As a Scot, you almost certainly are already. | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them. As a Scot, you almost certainly are already." lol | |||
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"Good luck to them, what people fail to realise is, take the royal family away and tourism would plummet, £20 Billion spent by tourists in London alone every year, I'm guessing an awful lot of that is due to us having a monarch and is a major part of the attraction for foreign visitors. "I looked up the tourism figures for 1642 -1660 and for the 10 years before the civil war and after the Restoration. Surprisingly tourist spending was quite static | |||
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"I am afraid its not just Royal babies we paid for. I believe we probably footed the bill for Blairs last too. In fact, if you take into account child benefit, tax credits, and the NHS, we all contribute to the birth and bringing up of just about every baby in the land." | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them.I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me." unfortunately , with that comes power , money, greed....born to have a dignified status before uve even opened ur eyes...sorta smacks the equality of being human. | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them.I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me. unfortunately , with that comes power , money, greed....born to have a dignified status before uve even opened ur eyes...sorta smacks the equality of being human." I totally get that... although I would say that the moment you are born you are no longer equal anyway. It then so depends on which family you were fortunate enough to be born into and that is just for starters. Everything else after kind of escalates your privileged or less privileged status, dont you think? | |||
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I think the news is great, and wish them well. | |||
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"Good luck to them, what people fail to realise is, take the royal family away and tourism would plummet, £20 Billion spent by tourists in London alone every year, I'm guessing an awful lot of that is due to us having a monarch and is a major part of the attraction for foreign visitors.
I looked up the tourism figures for 1642 -1660 and for the 10 years before the civil war and after the Restoration. Surprisingly tourist spending was quite static"I admire your powers of research... | |||
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"Wow a lot of venom for a baby that isn't even born yet
I think the news is great, and wish them well. " | |||
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I am not a massive fan of the royal family, but I do respect them. | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " sick sick sick | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them.I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me. unfortunately , with that comes power , money, greed....born to have a dignified status before uve even opened ur eyes...sorta smacks the equality of being human.I totally get that... although I would say that the moment you are born you are no longer equal anyway. It then so depends on which family you were fortunate enough to be born into and that is just for starters. Everything else after kind of escalates your privileged or less privileged status, dont you think? " I dunno lol..I'd never mean anything harmful...but I care for them as much as I care for anyone else.What message does it say tho...when one group of people are given automatic enhanced status because of a lineage? a bad one in my eyes. | |||
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"The Royal Family costs the Taxpayer under £40m a year....or around 60p per person. Considering David Cameron has recently pledged around £160m a year to Pakistan in aid....it's not a lot is it?" Do not get me started on cameron and money we give to.other nations | |||
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"I object more to my taxes paying towards chavs who churn out more and more sprogs with gay abandon and expect the taxpayer (me) to feed, house and clothe them "I would agree with you here | |||
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"I object more to my taxes paying towards chavs who churn out more and more sprogs with gay abandon and expect the taxpayer (me) to feed, house and clothe them "A group of pals, mostly middle aged single men, were chatting about this in the pub and one suggestion was that Child Benefit should be limited to the first x number of kids (x would be decided by projected population requirements) and after that number you'd get no more financial support. A popular variation would be that, if x were 2, once you had a third child, you'd lost the Child Benefit you get for the second child and, if you have a fourth child, you lose the Child Benefit you get for the first kid. | |||
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"I object more to my taxes paying towards chavs who churn out more and more sprogs with gay abandon and expect the taxpayer (me) to feed, house and clothe them I would agree with you here"Toatally agree too | |||
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"Sure it's not a food baby?" Since she's been hueying solidly for enough days to need hospitilization I suspect not... | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " Wow. I find that totally distasteful. It's our future king or queen. And I would hardly call either parent thick. I wish them both and all the royal family all the very best Cali | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " dont you have to be quite clever to be a pilot???
the monarchy arent going anywhere soon so if you dont like it you know what you can do | |||
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"No much of the DfID money actually goes directly to other countries. There are been too many examples of money being syphoned off over the years. It's usually a case of pointing the recipient country in the direction of a UK firm capable of doing work (building roads or dams or .......) that country needs and paying the UK firm to do the work." So true and it seems to be just another way of handing the corporations yet more of the taxpayers money. And as regards the royal baby it doesnt bother me one way or the other as the one I have real interest in is my little grandkid. | |||
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"Personally, as we apparently live the the 20th C, I'd have hoped that we'd have got over the forlock-tugging, lachy idea that somehow another human being is somehow 'worthy by birthright' of 'ruling over us'.....Everyone to their own, but I really can't take anyone seriously if they automatically consider this - though it's just what they'd love. P.S: I heard from a pal that a friend of his was once fishing a stretch of river that apparently belonged to a local 'aristocrat'. The 'Lord' (!) himself caught him at it and told him in no uncertain terms that he was not allowed to do this as this was 'his' bit of river. When the man questioned him about what he meant by this he said "Because my ancestors fought to own this piece of land" "OK" replied the guy, putting up his fists....I'll fight you for it now then.... " | |||
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"We could of course have a President like the very respectable Clinton, the very frugal and incorrupt Chirac, or the very tolerant and liberal Putin. They would cost just as much as our present system. " I think you missed Silvio Berlusconi - lovely chap
As for the baby - good luck to them. I hope they enjoy having children as much as we have | |||
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"We could of course have a President like the very respectable Clinton, the very frugal and incorrupt Chirac, or the very tolerant and liberal Putin. They would cost just as much as our present system. I think you missed Silvio Berlusconi - lovely chap
As for the baby - good luck to them. I hope they enjoy having children as much as we have " spot on. | |||
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"at least she wont have to look after it she can have a nanny. "As do countless thousands of other people.... | |||
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"at least she wont have to look after it she can have a nanny.
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"i just think its realy boring the way they go on and on about it. people have babies all the time. why cant they just mention it once? Agreed. We've got nine months of this now - I'm bored already
Only just over 6 months - she's nearly 12 weeks gone."Do you think they'll stop the minute the baby's born? | |||
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"at least she wont have to look after it she can have a nanny. "And she told you this herself did she. | |||
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"at least she wont have to look after it she can have a nanny.
And she told you this herself did she." | |||
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"Well we think its brilliant news! Wills works for a living remember! Good luck to them " | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX Wow. I find that totally distasteful. It's our future king or queen. And I would hardly call either parent thick. I wish them both and all the royal family all the very best Cali " Lol , I find that quote very laughable from someone Whome on their profile won't meet Celtic supporters , wonder why defending apparent royalty lol  | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " thats a pretty sad _iew point imho.. respect that its your opinion etc | |||
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"congratulations to the parents to be.... "Hear Hear...!!! | |||
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"Personally, as we apparently live the the 20th C, I'd have hoped that we'd have got over the forlock-tugging, lachy idea that somehow another human being is somehow 'worthy by birthright' of 'ruling over us'....." That would be the 21st Century yes? | |||
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"Good God, Sectarian nonsense on a thread about a baby...." The post was about the financial costings of the family whilst most of the country is in poverty, didnt see a good luck and best wishes forum , ??. | |||
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"Good God, Sectarian nonsense on a thread about a baby.... The post was about the financial costings of the family whilst most of the country is in poverty, didnt see a good luck and best wishes forum , ??." here you go
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" Lol , I find that quote very laughable from someone Whome on their profile won't meet Celtic supporters , wonder why defending apparent royalty lol "I'm very proud to support the royal family as I am also proud obviously to support rangers. My comment on my profile gets lots of comments mostly good. Including a few Celtic supporters that take it as a laugh. And yes I did find that comment offensive but then I am a royalist Cali | |||
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"A popular variation would be that, if x were 2, once you had a third child, you'd lost the Child Benefit you get for the second child and, if you have a fourth child, you lose the Child Benefit you get for the first kid." I fail to see the logic in that scheme. Why not have a system whereby you get child benefit for the first two and then no more. Taking money away from an extra mouth to feed is counter productive but limiting cash to the first two will make some parents think about whether they can really afford as many children as they would like. Of course, there are those who wouldn't give a shit and would keep churning them out regardless. | |||
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"There you go, just a one line mention on Newsnight. Aggressive tax avoidance is the lead story. Now, back to the pregancy... such awful sickness is usually a sign that she is surging with pregnancy hormones. I wonder if it's twins? "I hope so. That would annoy the anti-royalists so much more than if it was one baby. | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them." Way to go. Even the greatest spacemen have to shit n pee ......... Cosmic wheels - Donovan | |||
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"Well we think its brilliant news! Wills works for a living remember! Good luck to them " if you dont think its good news ? piss off abroad and live somewhere else, rule brittania and god save our queen !!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"There you go, just a one line mention on Newsnight. Aggressive tax avoidance is the lead story. Now, back to the pregancy... such awful sickness is usually a sign that she is surging with pregnancy hormones. I wonder if it's twins? "If its twins, which one would be heir to the thrown? | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them.I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me. unfortunately , with that comes power , money, greed....born to have a dignified status before uve even opened ur eyes...sorta smacks the equality of being human.I totally get that... although I would say that the moment you are born you are no longer equal anyway. It then so depends on which family you were fortunate enough to be born into and that is just for starters. Everything else after kind of escalates your privileged or less privileged status, dont you think? " We are all equal - just some are more equal than others.  | |||
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"There you go, just a one line mention on Newsnight. Aggressive tax avoidance is the lead story. Now, back to the pregancy... such awful sickness is usually a sign that she is surging with pregnancy hormones. I wonder if it's twins?
If its twins, which one would be heir to the thrown? "First one out lol | |||
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"There you go, just a one line mention on Newsnight. Aggressive tax avoidance is the lead story. Now, back to the pregancy... such awful sickness is usually a sign that she is surging with pregnancy hormones. I wonder if it's twins?
If its twins, which one would be heir to the thrown?
First one out lol "Why didn't I think if that!  | |||
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"A popular variation would be that, if x were 2, once you had a third child, you'd lost the Child Benefit you get for the second child and, if you have a fourth child, you lose the Child Benefit you get for the first kid. I fail to see the logic in that scheme. Why not have a system whereby you get child benefit for the first two and then no more. Taking money away from an extra mouth to feed is counter productive but limiting cash to the first two will make some parents think about whether they can really afford as many children as they would like. Of course, there are those who wouldn't give a shit and would keep churning them out regardless. " Isn't there a similar sort of set up in China? Not sure on the logistics of it - or did I dream it!?
Anyhow, best of luck to Wills, Kate and 'bump' - its about time the news wasn't about poverty, war, death, destruction and child abuse (serious issues, but some nice news is always good) | |||
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"congratulations to the parents to be....
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"No much of the DfID money actually goes directly to other countries. There are been too many examples of money being syphoned off over the years. It's usually a case of pointing the recipient country in the direction of a UK firm capable of doing work (building roads or dams or .......) that country needs and paying the UK firm to do the work. So true and it seems to be just another way of handing the corporations yet more of the taxpayers money. ................" Yes, it does have that effect but it's a legitimate way of subsidising UK industry and allowing them to continue to provide employment and to pay (some) taxes. | |||
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"A popular variation would be that, if x were 2, once you had a third child, you'd lost the Child Benefit you get for the second child and, if you have a fourth child, you lose the Child Benefit you get for the first kid. I fail to see the logic in that scheme. Why not have a system whereby you get child benefit for the first two and then no more. Taking money away from an extra mouth to feed is counter productive but limiting cash to the first two will make some parents think about whether they can really afford as many children as they would like. Of course, there are those who wouldn't give a shit and would keep churning them out regardless. " Rather than being counter productive it would be counter reproductive. | |||
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"Personally, as we apparently live the the 20th C, I'd have hoped that we'd have got over the forlock-tugging, lachy idea that somehow another human being is somehow 'worthy by birthright' of 'ruling over us'..... That would be the 21st Century yes?" Evidently so!lol Typo, no worries. Though with some who consider we 'need' (eh?!?!?!?lol) royals in this century, one would think we're at least back in the 20th.... | |||
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"good luck to them......and the child...thats what it is.. I'm anti anything that says someone is above me, socially or genetically..unless they have superpowers..even then...I could still be a 'better' person than them.I think I can understand where you are coming from. I dont see the Royals as "above me" - I see them as very much as an intrinsic part of British history, culture, way of life.... I dont feel, in want of a better word, that I would be in competition if that makes sense? It is just a great part of Britishness for me. unfortunately , with that comes power , money, greed....born to have a dignified status before uve even opened ur eyes...sorta smacks the equality of being human.I totally get that... although I would say that the moment you are born you are no longer equal anyway. It then so depends on which family you were fortunate enough to be born into and that is just for starters. Everything else after kind of escalates your privileged or less privileged status, dont you think? We are all equal - just some are more equal than others. "Agree...sorry, but perhaps people who feel we need other folks to have sych rights by birth, for no logical reason, really should get some therapy.,....! There! I've said it!lol | |||
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"I am afraid its not just Royal babies we paid for. I believe we probably footed the bill for Blairs last too. In fact, if you take into account child benefit, tax credits, and the NHS, we all contribute to the birth and bringing up of just about every baby in the land." | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX dont you have to be quite clever to be a pilot???
the monarchy arent going anywhere soon so if you dont like it you know what you can do "The United Kingdom and the commonwealth would be a very different entity where it not for the monarchy. Most nations look at the rich history we have with envy ( some good, some not so good ) and our evolution into the entity we are. There are very few places in the world where people aspire to live, with the freedoms afforded here in an unperfect society that welcomes tolerance. Our Royals have overseen ( being a political ) in the the last 100 years huge changes in the world, however Britain ( maybe it's our island status ) has largely held onto it's identity and stability. They are here to stay and with the news of the newest arrival means that contiuity will continue. Two people in love, having a child? Good luck to them. | |||
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"the porr baby isnt even born yet and people hate it already!! i hope you hate babies that are born purely for the sake of child benefit and housing purposes as much!! born to families who think it is their right not to work and laugh at those of us who work hard to pay their benefit claims!" | |||
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"Jeeze another royal is pregnant and i truly wish them well but as a country we are broke and bar queen and hubby the rest should not receive one penny of public money. We have folk who cannot afford to heat their homes yet royals take money they do not earn and bleed us dry. Am not totally anti royal as think having a figure head is good but thats as far as it goes." well said there nothin but dole scroungers livin the life of riley off the backs of orthers its about time there was a change | |||
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"So....the Royal Family apparantley costs me around 60p a year in tax, I wonder how much the career 'bottom feeders' cost me in tax contributions? The single mums that have never worked, yet have expensive mobile phone contracts with the latest phones, have Sky subscriptions, push their child around in a £500 buggy et all et all.. I'm guessing a bit more than the 60p a year I contribute to the Royal Family?" I never thought I would say this, but I agree with you | |||
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"Jeeze another royal is pregnant and i truly wish them well but as a country we are broke and bar queen and hubby the rest should not receive one penny of public money. We have folk who cannot afford to heat their homes yet royals take money they do not earn and bleed us dry. Am not totally anti royal as think having a figure head is good but thats as far as it goes. well said there nothin but dole scroungers livin the life of riley off the backs of orthers its about time there was a change "Stupidity & ignorance with a vote is a very dangerous thing.  | |||
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"Jeeze another royal is pregnant and i truly wish them well but as a country we are broke and bar queen and hubby the rest should not receive one penny of public money. We have folk who cannot afford to heat their homes yet royals take money they do not earn and bleed us dry. Am not totally anti royal as think having a figure head is good but thats as far as it goes. well said there nothin but dole scroungers livin the life of riley off the backs of orthers its about time there was a change "Your 60p is in the post, I'd hate to see anyone struggling to contribute 60p a year.... Incidentally....how much do I pay in tax to subsidise Northern Ireland every year?.....I am guessing a fair bit more than 60p. Could you mail that back to me by registered post please? | |||
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"People forget William and Harry inherited 20+ million from their mother. Also I didn't notice any of the anti royals say " If I inherited a country house and a few million I'd give it all, it's not right that I should keep it because of luck of birth." And..... I disagree there are a lot of people I consider below me and a fair few above me.... Just take a walk down your local high street and look at some of the people.... Do you really consider them your equal?" everyone is equal to me..biologically...they might not be socially or 'IQ' equal..but there is NOTHING anyone can argue for that promotes one bloodline above another. as for the social aspects of society etc etc..I think people think far too black and white.. they complain about the scroungers..for all intesnse purposes can anyone imagine what would happen when benefits are cut more drastically?-Oh...would that be higher crime rates?..Oh...fuck..we have less police dont we? Everyone should fuck off to other countries when they dont like rthe aspects of 'britishness'-such as the royal family...well thats good news isnt it..they wont complain at the foreigners left now will they. Theres TONNES of sustainable jobs out there isnt there...that will still be around in the next 50 years.. We dont like the fatcats of big companies ie banks, shafting all of us with big paychecks etc etc..however are quite glad to be giving that 60p away a year to someone people who gain automatic right to it from birth...despite already having a vast amount of the sterling stuff already. The Royals have become nothing more than entertainment celebrities really..thats fine...just dont dress them up as anything else I would say...much in the way footballers get dressed up(u know what I mean lol),with HUGE pay packets for kicking a ball around. | |||
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"i wonder how much revenue the country would loose in comparassion if we ditched the royal family? we would loose tourism and i dunno what else.. if u dont like the way the countries run and the heritage, move out!" utter codswallop!!! its a fact people would still come see the uk weather or not we have a royal family or not,,how many actually get to see any royals while visiting? erm very few,Nobody and that means royals too should be able to hold any office of state through birth wright,remember these are the people who look down on the likes of us as plebs | |||
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"People forget William and Harry inherited 20+ million from their mother. Also I didn't notice any of the anti royals say " If I inherited a country house and a few million I'd give it all, it's not right that I should keep it because of luck of birth." And..... I disagree there are a lot of people I consider below me and a fair few above me.... Just take a walk down your local high street and look at some of the people.... Do you really consider them your equal? everyone is equal to me..biologically...they might not be socially or 'IQ' equal..but there is NOTHING anyone can argue for that promotes one bloodline above another. as for the social aspects of society etc etc..I think people think far too black and white.. they complain about the scroungers..for all intesnse purposes can anyone imagine what would happen when benefits are cut more drastically?-Oh...would that be higher crime rates?..Oh...fuck..we have less police dont we? Everyone should fuck off to other countries when they dont like rthe aspects of 'britishness'-such as the royal family...well thats good news isnt it..they wont complain at the foreigners left now will they. Theres TONNES of sustainable jobs out there isnt there...that will still be around in the next 50 years.. We dont like the fatcats of big companies ie banks, shafting all of us with big paychecks etc etc..however are quite glad to be giving that 60p away a year to someone people who gain automatic right to it from birth...despite already having a vast amount of the sterling stuff already. The Royals have become nothing more than entertainment celebrities really..thats fine...just dont dress them up as anything else I would say...much in the way footballers get dressed up(u know what I mean lol),with HUGE pay packets for kicking a ball around. " | |||
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"Severe sickness doesn't mean twins, purely an old wives tale. I LOVE the Royals. What the Queen has done for our country is amazing. Wills and Kate have made the royal family "modern" along with Prince Harry and they do a great job. He earns his own wage. I wish them all the luck in the world, and think its fantastic news. If she does have a nanny so what? My friend has a nanny for her 2 children. The point being????" I keep reading about how he earns his own wage well can you tell me how a helicopter pilot can afford 175k for a one way ticket from wherever it was back to the UK oh thats right he didnt we did. I dont think any more of the Royal baby that I do of any other baby but come on get real he does not support his family on his RAF wage does anyone on here realy think that? | |||
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"And remember all you folk that dont have the same _iew as some above do as you are told and leavre the country and go somewhere else. Why do ppl feel the need to say this every time a subject comes up and some opinions differ from theirs?" if u dont like differing opinions please leave the country! there!..ur still here arent u...GO now, top drawer left handside and get the passport, pack the clothes-never mind the kids..grab any valuables and get to fuck.Different opinions....never heard such a thing! | |||
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"Severe sickness doesn't mean twins, purely an old wives tale. I LOVE the Royals. What the Queen has done for our country is amazing. Wills and Kate have made the royal family "modern" along with Prince Harry and they do a great job. He earns his own wage. I wish them all the luck in the world, and think its fantastic news. If she does have a nanny so what? My friend has a nanny for her 2 children. The point being???? I keep reading about how he earns his own wage well can you tell me how a helicopter pilot can afford 175k for a one way ticket from wherever it was back to the UK oh thats right he didnt we did. I dont think any more of the Royal baby that I do of any other baby but come on get real he does not support his family on his RAF wage does anyone on here realy think that?" His MoD wages won't pay for even one of his personal protection team. Multiply that by 8, add in a pair of Range Rovers every couple of years + level 6 bulletproofing + .............. I won't go far. | |||
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"And remember all you folk that dont have the same _iew as some above do as you are told and leavre the country and go somewhere else. Why do ppl feel the need to say this every time a subject comes up and some opinions differ from theirs?" Because it's not just the Royals they are having a pop at, it is the way of life in this country that the overwhelming majority are in support of. We have a constitutional monarch and that's the way most of us like it. If someone doesn't like that then they can vote with their feet and go and live in France, or Germany, or Italy (although I believe those countries still have Dukes etc). Having a go at the Royals is having a go at everyone who prefers to live in a country that wants a Royal Family. Too many people moan about the way things are instead of doing something about it. Like leaving. | |||
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"And remember all you folk that dont have the same _iew as some above do as you are told and leavre the country and go somewhere else. Why do ppl feel the need to say this every time a subject comes up and some opinions differ from theirs? Because it's not just the Royals they are having a pop at, it is the way of life in this country that the overwhelming majority are in support of. We have a constitutional monarch and that's the way most of us like it. If someone doesn't like that then they can vote with their feet and go and live in France, or Germany, or Italy (although I believe those countries still have Dukes etc). Having a go at the Royals is having a go at everyone who prefers to live in a country that wants a Royal Family. Too many people moan about the way things are instead of doing something about it. Like leaving." Have saw you disagreeing with a lot that goes on in this country I dont want to leave but by your own leanings Why are you still here or is it just if they dont agree with you they should leave the country? | |||
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"And remember all you folk that dont have the same _iew as some above do as you are told and leavre the country and go somewhere else. Why do ppl feel the need to say this every time a subject comes up and some opinions differ from theirs? if u dont like differing opinions please leave the country! there!..ur still here arent u...GO now, top drawer left handside and get the passport, pack the clothes-never mind the kids..grab any valuables and get to fuck.Different opinions....never heard such a thing! "Looked in the top drawer left handside and it aint there so guess I will just have to stay for now. | |||
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" Too many people moan about the way things are instead of doing something about it. Like leaving." So its 'if you don't like it you can fuck off'? Are royalists more 'British' than others. D o they have special right and powers? No? I thought not There are other ways to change the status quo. What happens when the day comes,as it surely will,sooner or later when the majority of people don't support the royals? I'm pretty ambivalent towards the royals and I don't give a toss about how much they cost. As some have said,whatever we replace them with will cost just as much. They're missing the point. It's not the cost they object to,It's the 1000 years of hereditary privilege achieved by war,murder,insurrection and spurious claims that they find outdated. To clarify,I am not anti-royal,I just believe that the belong in another age | |||
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"It's quite worrying how many forelock tuggers still exist in the 21st century. I can't believe that so many people are happy with so few having so much, when so many have so little. The royals money has come from centuries of opression, invasion, theft, and most importantly, the deaths of many of your and my ancestors. Could a forelock tugger answer me this - which of your loved ones over history would you choose to die, so that a royal could wipe his/her arse on gold-leaf toilet paper?" never tugged a fore or any other lock to anyone.. have served the country and sworn allegience to the head of state, but deem nyself and mine to be a citizen not a subject.. not a fan of hereditay priveledge in any way shape or form but we are what we are, we have a monarchy with all that goes with that.. unless your going to back up your rhetoric by raising arms or democratic mandate then its all a bit shouty shouty tbh.. would you if you had the chance crush the childs skull if you feel so strongly, methinks not.. more of your and my long dead relatives were killed by other causes, unless King or Queen whomever caused the black death or other plagues.. yes we should look at history and hopefully not make the same mistakes, but change now what you can actually effect rather than live in dreamsville.. | |||
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"It's quite worrying how many forelock tuggers still exist in the 21st century. I can't believe that so many people are happy with so few having so much, when so many have so little. The royals money has come from centuries of opression, invasion, theft, and most importantly, the deaths of many of your and my ancestors. Could a forelock tugger answer me this - which of your loved ones over history would you choose to die, so that a royal could wipe his/her arse on gold-leaf toilet paper?" I don't see them that way myself I think they are more of a tourist attraction or even a logo that goes on British products sold abroad. | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX " I've booked your ticket to the states, don't bother waving when you leave. | |||
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"Couldn't even bring myself to read any more posts after going about a third of the way down I was totally disgusted I'm not a fan of the monarchy I had this discussion with my three kids this afternoon about the monarchy what it means to the country the costs we incur about history democracy the government the tourism the difference between our royal family and that of elsewhere in the world the reasons for and those against maintaining this part of our heritage and you know what my 6,8,10 year old kids were able to compile better arguments for and against it and their opinion of the news so this baby is a special baby then and I replied no more than any of you but because of who the baby will become when it's born it feels a part of all of us I love babies everyone's babies no matter where you're from your background your beliefs religion race whatever there's is nothing more amazing or innocent than a baby As parents they are like any other they're just hoping and praying for a healthy baby and hoping they're going to be good parents and always do right by their child, having all or no money in the world can't ever change the hopes fears dreams and expectations you will have, I wonder how many of you who are posting negative responses know what it's like to hold a newborn baby knowing that this little bundle if innocence is totally reliant on you, and how many of you understand the heartache if losing a child and know all the money in the world couldn't ever replace a baby lost whether that baby is born or not, I for one am sending out my love and hoping mum and baby get better soon and things start to pick up and congratulate them on their news "Well YOU pay for it then, I don't want to. | |||
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"It's hard to imagine what sort of life this sprog will have, being born into what must be the most disfunctional family in the land. You can just about hear the researchers on Jeremy Kyle saying 'these ***** must be making it up just to get on the telly'. Nobody's that unfortunate." Dysfunctional how ? Do you know them personally and how could one more little baby possibly bleed us dry ? omg I can see the headlines now "royal baby single handedly manages to derail the British economy sending the country in the deepest darkest recession in recorded history" Prejudice is rife in here the night folks and good night | |||
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"Couldn't even bring myself to read any more posts after going about a third of the way down I was totally disgusted I'm not a fan of the monarchy I had this discussion with my three kids this afternoon about the monarchy what it means to the country the costs we incur about history democracy the government the tourism the difference between our royal family and that of elsewhere in the world the reasons for and those against maintaining this part of our heritage and you know what my 6,8,10 year old kids were able to compile better arguments for and against it and their opinion of the news so this baby is a special baby then and I replied no more than any of you but because of who the baby will become when it's born it feels a part of all of us I love babies everyone's babies no matter where you're from your background your beliefs religion race whatever there's is nothing more amazing or innocent than a baby As parents they are like any other they're just hoping and praying for a healthy baby and hoping they're going to be good parents and always do right by their child, having all or no money in the world can't ever change the hopes fears dreams and expectations you will have, I wonder how many of you who are posting negative responses know what it's like to hold a newborn baby knowing that this little bundle if innocence is totally reliant on you, and how many of you understand the heartache if losing a child and know all the money in the world couldn't ever replace a baby lost whether that baby is born or not, I for one am sending out my love and hoping mum and baby get better soon and things start to pick up and congratulate them on their news
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"It's hard to imagine what sort of life this sprog will have, being born into what must be the most disfunctional family in the land. You can just about hear the researchers on Jeremy Kyle saying 'these ***** must be making it up just to get on the telly'. Nobody's that unfortunate. Dysfunctional how ? Do you know them personally and how could one more little baby possibly bleed us dry ? omg I can see the headlines now "royal baby single handedly manages to derail the British economy sending the country in the deepest darkest recession in recorded history" Prejudice is rife in here the night folks and good night "How much more dysfunctional can there be than this child's grandparents, its uncles and aunts, assorted cousins and, no doubt, many others, have been (unhappily and expensively) divorced? Factor in the ongoing problems of inbreeding throughout the European 'royal' families and it's a miracle any of them can ever manage to tie their own shoelaces - not that they'd ever have to. There's always a flunky when you need one. | |||
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"Buuuuut Wills is a full time pilot with the North wales RAF Search and Rescue unit so earns his keep, and Kate works too. they do their bit, britain needs our Royals, look how much revenue they brought into the country for the Wedding and the Jubilee, I'll bet yo it was more than the Olympics " No he doesn't. It costs far more to keep him safe than he can possibly contribute to the economy. Without his share of his mother's hush money, he'd be just another pile* on the arsehole of society. *I can't spell haemorrhoid. | |||
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"Jeeze another royal is pregnant and i truly wish them well but as a country we are broke and bar queen and hubby the rest should not receive one penny of public money. We have folk who cannot afford to heat their homes yet royals take money they do not earn and bleed us dry. Am not totally anti royal as think having a figure head is good but thats as far as it goes." I really do wish people would look at the facts before saying stuff like this. Yes some of our tax does go towards the Royal family however its a very small amount and nothing would change if we got rid of them tomorrow. For a start all the palaces and building would still be there and would still be maintained by the state. A president would need a residence or two and would cost more than the Royals do now to keep in office because most of the costs of the Royals are borne by the Royals private incomes! | |||
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"Buuuuut Wills is a full time pilot with the North wales RAF Search and Rescue unit so earns his keep, and Kate works too. they do their bit, britain needs our Royals, look how much revenue they brought into the country for the Wedding and the Jubilee, I'll bet yo it was more than the Olympics No he doesn't. It costs far more to keep him safe than he can possibly contribute to the economy. Without his share of his mother's hush money, he'd be just another pile* on the arsehole of society. *I can't spell haemorrhoid." Oooof you're going to need a really big tube if anusol to make sure you get rid of them all | |||
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" Too many people moan about the way things are instead of doing something about it. Like leaving. So its 'if you don't like it you can fuck off'? Are royalists more 'British' than others. D o they have special right and powers? No? I thought not There are other ways to change the status quo. What happens when the day comes,as it surely will,sooner or later when the majority of people don't support the royals? I'm pretty ambivalent towards the royals and I don't give a toss about how much they cost. As some have said,whatever we replace them with will cost just as much. They're missing the point. It's not the cost they object to,It's the 1000 years of hereditary privilege achieved by war,murder,insurrection and spurious claims that they find outdated. To clarify,I am not anti-royal,I just believe that the belong in another age" You talk about privilege and forget very quickly just how much privilege you have! Everything you are lucky enough to enjoy in this democratic country has for the most part become available to you through someone else giving their life! There isn't a single person who moans and groans who wouldn't change places if they could. It's not as if your day today activities are governed by them. Society will always continue to evolve but I truly hope we never loose this particular institution because if we should we'd be a lot poorer for it. It's what goes towards making Britain great and most of us proud of our nation. Especially the foreign interest in our history. Don't forget it's a massive industry in its own right. We know that some of the old rules such as succession need to be revised and they will be to keep pace. I just despair why so many are frightened by royalty. Some of you have no idea just how much pleasure and pride is gained by voluntary services when they are awarded the Queens award. Still I suppose you're entitled to your strange opinions and if you'd like to live without a royal take a trip across the pond and enjoy freedom to bare arms and every other freedom they have. The only problem you'll have then is the madness that ensues when they visit. lol | |||
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"By the time this country is back on its feet, Camilla will be long dead, Charles will be hanging onto every last Euro he can and 'the boys' will be tax exiles in Lichtenstein." Balmoral will be a pile of rubble and deep fried mars bar will be your staple diet. | |||
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"Couldn't even bring myself to read any more posts after going about a third of the way down I was totally disgusted I'm not a fan of the monarchy I had this discussion with my three kids this afternoon about the monarchy what it means to the country the costs we incur about history democracy the government the tourism the difference between our royal family and that of elsewhere in the world the reasons for and those against maintaining this part of our heritage and you know what my 6,8,10 year old kids were able to compile better arguments for and against it and their opinion of the news so this baby is a special baby then and I replied no more than any of you but because of who the baby will become when it's born it feels a part of all of us I love babies everyone's babies no matter where you're from your background your beliefs religion race whatever there's is nothing more amazing or innocent than a baby As parents they are like any other they're just hoping and praying for a healthy baby and hoping they're going to be good parents and always do right by their child, having all or no money in the world can't ever change the hopes fears dreams and expectations you will have, I wonder how many of you who are posting negative responses know what it's like to hold a newborn baby knowing that this little bundle if innocence is totally reliant on you, and how many of you understand the heartache if losing a child and know all the money in the world couldn't ever replace a baby lost whether that baby is born or not, I for one am sending out my love and hoping mum and baby get better soon and things start to pick up and congratulate them on their news
Well YOU pay for it then, I don't want to."Well I don't wont to pay for your health care but I do! | |||
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"It's quite worrying how many forelock tuggers still exist in the 21st century. I can't believe that so many people are happy with so few having so much, when so many have so little. The royals money has come from centuries of opression, invasion, theft, and most importantly, the deaths of many of your and my ancestors. Could a forelock tugger answer me this - which of your loved ones over history would you choose to die, so that a royal could wipe his/her arse on gold-leaf toilet paper? never tugged a fore or any other lock to anyone.. have served the country and sworn allegience to the head of state, but deem nyself and mine to be a citizen not a subject.. not a fan of hereditay priveledge in any way shape or form but we are what we are, we have a monarchy with all that goes with that.. unless your going to back up your rhetoric by raising arms or democratic mandate then its all a bit shouty shouty tbh.. would you if you had the chance crush the childs skull if you feel so strongly, methinks not.. more of your and my long dead relatives were killed by other causes, unless King or Queen whomever caused the black death or other plagues.. yes we should look at history and hopefully not make the same mistakes, but change now what you can actually effect rather than live in dreamsville.. " | |||
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"One more useless, parasitic and, if the genes are anything to go by, fairly dim mouth to feed from my taxes. The French and the Russians in their time had the right idea about dealing with royals and all their like. XX dont you have to be quite clever to be a pilot???
the monarchy arent going anywhere soon so if you dont like it you know what you can do The United Kingdom and the commonwealth would be a very different entity where it not for the monarchy. Most nations look at the rich history we have with envy ( some good, some not so good ) and our evolution into the entity we are. There are very few places in the world where people aspire to live, with the freedoms afforded here in an unperfect society that welcomes tolerance. Our Royals have overseen ( being a political ) in the the last 100 years huge changes in the world, however Britain ( maybe it's our island status ) has largely held onto it's identity and stability. They are here to stay and with the news of the newest arrival means that contiuity will continue. Two people in love, having a child? Good luck to them. "Here here! | |||
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"Couldn't even bring myself to read any more posts after going about a third of the way down I was totally disgusted I'm not a fan of the monarchy I had this discussion with my three kids this afternoon about the monarchy what it means to the country the costs we incur about history democracy the government the tourism the difference between our royal family and that of elsewhere in the world the reasons for and those against maintaining this part of our heritage and you know what my 6,8,10 year old kids were able to compile better arguments for and against it and their opinion of the news so this baby is a special baby then and I replied no more than any of you but because of who the baby will become when it's born it feels a part of all of us I love babies everyone's babies no matter where you're from your background your beliefs religion race whatever there's is nothing more amazing or innocent than a baby As parents they are like any other they're just hoping and praying for a healthy baby and hoping they're going to be good parents and always do right by their child, having all or no money in the world can't ever change the hopes fears dreams and expectations you will have, I wonder how many of you who are posting negative responses know what it's like to hold a newborn baby knowing that this little bundle if innocence is totally reliant on you, and how many of you understand the heartache if losing a child and know all the money in the world couldn't ever replace a baby lost whether that baby is born or not, I for one am sending out my love and hoping mum and baby get better soon and things start to pick up and congratulate them on their news
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Well I don't wont to pay for your health care but I do!"I actually had that same thought | |||
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"And remember all you folk that dont have the same _iew as some above do as you are told and leavre the country and go somewhere else. Why do ppl feel the need to say this every time a subject comes up and some opinions differ from theirs? if u dont like differing opinions please leave the country! there!..ur still here arent u...GO now, top drawer left handside and get the passport, pack the clothes-never mind the kids..grab any valuables and get to fuck.Different opinions....never heard such a thing! "And Don't forget to turn in your passport as soon as you land | |||
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"..... A president would need a residence or two and would cost more than the Royals do now to keep in office because most of the costs of the Royals are borne by the Royals private incomes! "By that 'logic' we should tolerate pimps on the grounds 'most of the costs of the Pimps are borne by the Pimps private incomes! | |||
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