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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
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Having a debate with a couple of friends on the best approach to win a fight with one of those really hard dog.s that chavs have if it went mental on you in the park.
Assuming your carrying no weapons , what’s your strategy ? Run away or fight it ? If you’re a fighter what’s your technique to beat the dog
Second question what’s the largest animal you think you could bear in a fight.
Third question, pound for pound , animals are better fighters than humans , unless your an MMA pro or Mike Tyson , is this true ? |
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I actually heard a story the other week about a dog attacking someone. It would not let go until a passer by ran over and stuck his finger up the dogs backside 
The dog instantly let go and ran off!
I heard this at work so it could be a bit of storytelling. |
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The is an old tale about killing dogs by pulling their front legs violently apart. It does not kill them but can render them incapacitated as all humans are stronger than a dogs legs.
If one is biting you then try and stand up. It is far less stable on its back legs only and you can punch it in the stomach.
Whatever happens you are going to know you are in a dog fight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thanks to the newspapers this summer, I know how to defend myself against seagulls.
I must have missed that, how do you do it?"
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"Having a debate with a couple of friends on the best approach to win a fight with one of those really hard dog.s that chavs have if it went mental on you in the park.
Assuming your carrying no weapons , what’s your strategy ? Run away or fight it ? If you’re a fighter what’s your technique to beat the dog
Second question what’s the largest animal you think you could bear in a fight.
Third question, pound for pound , animals are better fighters than humans , unless your an MMA pro or Mike Tyson , is this true ? "
Bears have by far the better range of fighting styles, but a humans devious strategys will always overcome the bear.
Especially when fighting over a salmon.
Our younger readers may not be aware of this......
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"The is an old tale about killing dogs by pulling their front legs violently apart. It does not kill them but can render them incapacitated as all humans are stronger than a dogs legs.
If one is biting you then try and stand up. It is far less stable on its back legs only and you can punch it in the stomach.
Whatever happens you are going to know you are in a dog fight. "
I remember being told this as a child too. No idea how true it is but it's absolutely what I'd try.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If its a pitty then you're in serious shit. They won't let go of anything they bite. I've seen this first hand. Good news is it only takes a few mins before you go into shock from the force of bite. But I'd deffo go for the eye gouge, not tried and tested mind but I stiff finger in a squishy part sounds good to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A dog can bite to around 250psi, a crocodile for comparison is 5000psi but just when you think you will be alright the croc will literally bite and remove limbs immediately whereas a dog bite will go through flesh and eventually break bones, none of the above tactics will work because of the dogs going to bite you it will do so, poking a dogs bum hole when it’s wiggling off your arm or trying to pull its legs apart, good luck with that one, as for standing up and thinking the dog will let go then my Staffie will hang off his rope for a good thirty seconds, basically if you give it something else to bite as in clothing then that is your best hope, most dogs are incredibly well behaved but they are still an animal and whilst some of us are on here exploring our dark side, you don’t want to see an animals dark side, it doesn’t end well |
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Those types of dogs will have you to the floor in a second, they also have lockable Jaws, so once it's bitten me it's not going to let go. I'd try to restrain it as best I can whilst help came running |
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I had a guard dog as my pet as child. On his hind legs his muzzle was on my face, if he ran into an adult male he'd knock them over. He could in one bite go through a cows leg bone from the butcher. If he wanted me dead I would be so. Luckily for me he was my protector.
But what I learnt from having big dogs, is it's more about the moments before attack. Eye contact, posture how fast or slow you walk away. If you sense the danger walk towards other people so you appear as a pack for example. |
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"I actually heard a story the other week about a dog attacking someone. It would not let go until a passer by ran over and stuck his finger up the dogs backside
The dog instantly let go and ran off!
I heard this at work so it could be a bit of storytelling. "
It would be a bit awkward when this doesn't work and passersby are shouting "why is he trying to finger that dog"
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Apparently the finger up the bum thing works with dogs. Thankfully I've never had to try it.
Also, if I could, I'd push whatever it was biting further into it's mouth, dogs will gag very easily.
Liquid throw in their face will usually distract them long enough for you to move and hopefully pin them.
If someone else is there they should hook their hands around the front of it's back legs, lift and pull...even the biggest of dogs has very little power with only it's front legs on the ground. |
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Id find a tree in the park and snap off a sharp branch and tie my coat around my left arm for padding offer it my arm and use my right hand branch for offence
I know for a fact i could beat up 2 polar bears and 1 hippo |
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"I actually heard a story the other week about a dog attacking someone. It would not let go until a passer by ran over and stuck his finger up the dogs backside
The dog instantly let go and ran off!
I heard this at work so it could be a bit of storytelling. "
I heard a similar one about a kid out with his grandad.
Dog comes racing up barking, so old dude took a step back and pushed the kid behind him. As the dog got a few feet away, gramps suddenly launches a full
On Eric Cantona kick and flipped the dog end over end, sending it running off whimpering with echos of grandad shouting ‘Don’t bark at me and my grandson!’ In it’s ears.
How true this is, I don’t know…how effective? Probably very if you time it right |
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I once had to fight a Rottweiler off of my boxer many years ago, it was a flat foot boot to the side of it neck so hard it didn’t know where it was. I then sat on the big bugger till it’s owner leashed it.
Disclaimer:
I am a dog lover and would only do things like that in extreme circumstances and when you see a 50kg beast tearing your dogs ear off it becomes extreme circumstances |
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People way over estimate their own capabilities. Most dogs would fuck you up. You're not going to box or MMA a dog, you're going to get a gaping bleeding wound with bits of torn skin and human filling hanging out of it.
Like Mike Tyson said "everyone has a plan until they get mauled by a dog they thought they could fight"
Humans didn't evolve to fight, we evolved to think. Which admittedly is sometimes tricky to believe. |
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Well it's simple, I don't go anywhere where chavs with dags might be for starters.
Secondly, I'd politely ask the owner to restrain their dag, and perhaps enquire into some socialisation and training programmes to improve behaviour and recall.
Thirdly, I'd ask the dag, who is a good boy, or girl, once sex has been identified and moreover, presumed. This might irritate said dag, or owner, so maybe I should play it safe and be neutral and ask who, is a good dag, until we've really gotten to know each other.
Finally, should violence ensue, I would query if this is the correct pathway to enact effective change, referencing the works of Ghandi and MLK. I'm sure dags have a dream too, but of what, I don't yet know. This must change.
I'd also punt the little shit straight in the fucking nose. |
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"Well it's simple, I don't go anywhere where chavs with dags might be for starters.
Secondly, I'd politely ask the owner to restrain their dag, and perhaps enquire into some socialisation and training programmes to improve behaviour and recall.
Thirdly, I'd ask the dag, who is a good boy, or girl, once sex has been identified and moreover, presumed. This might irritate said dag, or owner, so maybe I should play it safe and be neutral and ask who, is a good dag, until we've really gotten to know each other.
Finally, should violence ensue, I would query if this is the correct pathway to enact effective change, referencing the works of Ghandi and MLK. I'm sure dags have a dream too, but of what, I don't yet know. This must change.
I'd also punt the little shit straight in the fucking nose."
"I say old sprout, would you mind restraining your unruly hound? It's manners are appalling!"
"U fucken wot m8?"
And sadly that was the last we saw of him. |
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"I actually heard a story the other week about a dog attacking someone. It would not let go until a passer by ran over and stuck his finger up the dogs backside
The dog instantly let go and ran off!
I heard this at work so it could be a bit of storytelling. "
heard this story when I was a kid lol |
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True story.
Many years ago I was working on a job putting up a fence that backed onto a park next to a church.
We heard this awful kerfuffle and saw a woman screaming as this big dog had jumped on her small pooch and was fucking the hell out of it,small dog yelping I assume in pain.
Big dog really aggressive and snarling at anyone who went close.
I'm pretty sure that big dog was literally going to fuck small dog to death.
Then as we stood there calm as you like the vicar from the church carefully and calmly walked up behind big dog,licked his finger and grabbed tail shoved his finger up big dog bum hole.
Big dog stopped,yelped and ran off very quickly tail literally between its leg's.
Me and mate pissing ourselves laughing asked vicar how he knew how to do that.
Straight faced with no hint of humour.
"Well like most males they can give it and can't take it"
One thing that has always bothered me is him licking his finger first!!!
But I guess it worked,but being attacked by a large strong dog the practicality of actually being able to ram ones finger up pooches bum is a different matter entirely.
My aunt was nearly killed by a rottweiler that was a guard dog at her pub.
It was only that she was a big strong lady that it wasn't worse than it was. |
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First question - Fight or flight - Always fight. The dog WILL out run you, and it WILL out last you. Turn your back and it's game over.
Second question - Dogs have strength and bite power but lack mass. Best bet, short of a weapon would be to try to get it by the neck and use it's relatively low mass to simply throw it against something, but the fact is that an aggressive powerful dog is more than a match for the average human male so no strategy is particularly effective.
Third question - Absolutely true yes. |
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You must keep it away from your throat.
if it latches onto a lower limb, fingers thrust into it's eyes and batter the fuck out of it's nose.
If it latches onto an arm, try and get it off the ground and swing it against something hard like a post or tree to break it's back.
Don't let it get you on the ground.
I'm 6ft and 14stone but I reckon anything bigger than an adult lab and I'd struggle. I've wrestled adult (muzzled) GSD's in training, fucking scary.. |
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"The is an old tale about killing dogs by pulling their front legs violently apart. It does not kill them but can render them incapacitated as all humans are stronger than a dogs legs.
If one is biting you then try and stand up. It is far less stable on its back legs only and you can punch it in the stomach.
Whatever happens you are going to know you are in a dog fight. "
This was actually the thrust of the debate. My preference was biting the neck & throat , slamming, stamping and fast combinations of right hooks and uppercuts to the head , maybe jaw dislocation later , but my friend disagreed and said simply grab it’s paws and turn it’s legs out. Is this actually going to work ?
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"You must keep it away from your throat.
if it latches onto a lower limb, fingers thrust into it's eyes and batter the fuck out of it's nose.
If it latches onto an arm, try and get it off the ground and swing it against something hard like a post or tree to break it's back.
Don't let it get you on the ground.
I'm 6ft and 14stone but I reckon anything bigger than an adult lab and I'd struggle. I've wrestled adult (muzzled) GSD's in training, fucking scary.. "
What’s the biggest animal you think you could have ? If it was really pissed off and going nuts?
A small Deer? A pig ? Swan ? |
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"I once had to fight a Rottweiler off of my boxer many years ago, it was a flat foot boot to the side of it neck so hard it didn’t know where it was. I then sat on the big bugger till it’s owner leashed it.
Disclaimer:
I am a dog lover and would only do things like that in extreme circumstances and when you see a 50kg beast tearing your dogs ear off it becomes extreme circumstances "
Agreed, it’s pure defence if I saw a dog attacking someone or it attacked me violently though it’s useful to be able to know the best thing to do.
For me I think stances and moves that avoid being bitten are crucial , as said above once it’s teeth are in your arms or worse , your head or neck, you’re fucked. But defensive only isn’t likely to stop the dog, so you’ll need to take it down as well. |
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By *P994Man
over a year ago
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If a big game dog gets a hold of you you’re fucked. The shock of the bite can kill you let alone something like a 200lb Ovcharka using you as a chew toy. I’ve done schutzhund trials and taken a few bites on and arm and leg sleeve and a been left black and blue for weeks from a 50lb dog. |
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"Having a debate with a couple of friends on the best approach to win a fight with one of those really hard dog.s that chavs have if it went mental on you in the park.
Assuming your carrying no weapons , what’s your strategy ? Run away or fight it ? If you’re a fighter what’s your technique to beat the dog
Second question what’s the largest animal you think you could bear in a fight.
Third question, pound for pound , animals are better fighters than humans , unless your an MMA pro or Mike Tyson , is this true ?
Bears have by far the better range of fighting styles, but a humans devious strategys will always overcome the bear.
Especially when fighting over a salmon.
Our younger readers may not be aware of this......
Winston "
That bear was winning that fight until the fisherman cheated
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I was told to let the dog jump up at you.
Cross your arms over your chest
As the dog jumps up, get the front paws on the outside of your arms
Then move your arms outwards
The idea is that your will do damage to the dog, enough for it to think twice about attacking you.
Not put that into practice, but I can see it could end badly for you. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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Humans, through evolution, are by far one of, if not the worst physical apex predators that have ever existed.
Advanced intelligence and tools/weapons (and numbers) are what put us at the top. Only a small percentage of the population will be able to defend against most medium to large animal attacks. If alone, and without any tool to use as a weapon close at hand (even a stick and decent sized rock) then very likely you are not going to be able to stand up to your attacker. The only hope you have is to retaliate in a soft area of the body - eyes, belly, nose - while under pressure and the beginning of shock.
A dog will be (for their size and mass) stronger, faster, and more agile compared to you. They will likely have better reflexes but driven by instinct, not intelligence. |
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If you have a mid to large dog...... holding it up by the collar is fucking difficult. Fighting dogs twist and writhe... your hand isn't strong enough ( mine isn't anyway )
I'd take the RSPCA pole out of my Mary Poppins and attach it the dogs collar.
Then the blow torch. Then the axe. |
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"You must keep it away from your throat.
if it latches onto a lower limb, fingers thrust into it's eyes and batter the fuck out of it's nose.
If it latches onto an arm, try and get it off the ground and swing it against something hard like a post or tree to break it's back.
Don't let it get you on the ground.
I'm 6ft and 14stone but I reckon anything bigger than an adult lab and I'd struggle. I've wrestled adult (muzzled) GSD's in training, fucking scary..
What’s the biggest animal you think you could have ? If it was really pissed off and going nuts?
A small Deer? A pig ? Swan ? "
Hadn't consider others, but a lot of cute Disney animals can inflict nasty wounds.. |
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A staffie attacked my dog when it was a pup. It was terrifying and I was uncharitably worried it would turn its attention to me if it let go. It’s owner took ages to get it under control enough to let go. Luckily no serious harm was done but it wasn’t a good situation. |
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By *rHotNotts OP Man
over a year ago
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"Humans, through evolution, are by far one of, if not the worst physical apex predators that have ever existed.
Advanced intelligence and tools/weapons (and numbers) are what put us at the top. Only a small percentage of the population will be able to defend against most medium to large animal attacks. If alone, and without any tool to use as a weapon close at hand (even a stick and decent sized rock) then very likely you are not going to be able to stand up to your attacker. The only hope you have is to retaliate in a soft area of the body - eyes, belly, nose - while under pressure and the beginning of shock.
A dog will be (for their size and mass) stronger, faster, and more agile compared to you. They will likely have better reflexes but driven by instinct, not intelligence. "
You are right of course but that instinct (or wildness) is still there, if you regularly exercise intuition, reflex, pain, courage, imagination you instinctively know how to act fast in life/death situations . Maybe the smarter you are the less you need these things and you forget. |
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"You must keep it away from your throat.
if it latches onto a lower limb, fingers thrust into it's eyes and batter the fuck out of it's nose.
If it latches onto an arm, try and get it off the ground and swing it against something hard like a post or tree to break it's back.
Don't let it get you on the ground.
I'm 6ft and 14stone but I reckon anything bigger than an adult lab and I'd struggle. I've wrestled adult (muzzled) GSD's in training, fucking scary.. "
I've been knocked on my arse in the name of training. Took a split second and he tried to drag me across the green, if I hadn't been wearing a full protective suit it would have been nasty, luckily I was only winded and bruised, but he only let go because he was commanded to. If a out of control bull or mastif type breed knocks me over, I'm in trouble |
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"The is an old tale about killing dogs by pulling their front legs violently apart. It does not kill them but can render them incapacitated as all humans are stronger than a dogs legs.
If one is biting you then try and stand up. It is far less stable on its back legs only and you can punch it in the stomach.
Whatever happens you are going to know you are in a dog fight. "
Yes I remember being taught this too many years ago along with if it’s a male dog then grab it’s balls and squeeze tight. |
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Some of these replies are 
Luckily I have never had to deal with more than a bite and retreat from a dog but I have a lot of experience of breaking up fighting dogs.
A lot depends on why they are attacking, what breed they are etc but you would have a hard time stopping a dog ‘mauling’ you once it has started unless you can quickly remove yourself from danger.
If you were to help someone being attacked then wheelbarrowing them (lifting their back legs quickly into the air) usually stops but they are likely to turn their attention on to you.
If they are an entire male then twisting their testicles also works
If they have a firm hold of their ‘victim’ then fold their lip into their mouth with alot of pressure usually works too as it causes them to bite their own lip |
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We were informed recently the best way to deal with a dog attacking is to get hold by the collar twist & lift the dog, obviously this will only work if the dog is attacking someone else. One of our dogs was attacked when only a tiny pup & Duck swiftly booted it the head with a pair of Docs on took a few good kicks but it did let go & thankfully our pup was ok but God knows how |
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Then deal with the prick who allowed their dog off the lead in a public space.
No idea what I'd do if it was a male though 
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