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"Who’s feeling sad today?" Life moves on, hence everyone that is quoting ‘long love the king’ etc. *i need to learn the words to the new National Anthem….  …. | |||
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"I just Googled Queen tribute Leeds to see if there was a book of condolence and all I got was details of a Freddy Mercury tribute act in a working mens club." Sally, all I have to say is thank you.  | |||
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"Yes somewhat tbh ... It's all we have ever known in our lifetime and despite some of her family members being less than wholesome I respected the Queen for her unfaltering dedication to duty.. May she rest in peace x" Well said | |||
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I'm sure it's sad for her family and friends. I'm neither.
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"Not me! It’s someone I didn’t know. " I know xx | |||
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" it will be odd when all the bank notes change as well " We will only be using contactless by then | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Incredible words x | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Wise words. Completely agree.  | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Well said | |||
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wish she had made it to 100 | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Fantastic post | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Amen to this | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity."  | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Here here, you read my mind | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." | |||
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"*ago*" Sorry for your loss. | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96" Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her  | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." This. Soooooooo much this. Well said PP. Winston | |||
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"If we have a bit of respect for peoples views then I won't wear my finger out today." Easily my favourite comment in some time  | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Beautifully put x | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her "A fraction of people do manual labour. Proper null point | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her
A fraction of people do manual labour. Proper null point "It's not a null point at all. I'm pretty sure if you sat on your arse while everyone attended to every need for you and all you had to do was think and speak, you'd be full of beans at 96 as well. Meanwhile, someone who has had to actually work for a living might not be so lucky | |||
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"Who’s feeling sad today?" I've been feeling sad for months now. This only added to it. | |||
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"*ago* Sorry for your loss." Thank you x | |||
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"Is it bad that every time I see the name Queen I think of Freddie Mercury? " His death made me sadder tbh | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her "You don't have to work on the tools to be classed as working hard. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her
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It's not a null point at all. I'm pretty sure if you sat on your arse while everyone attended to every need for you and all you had to do was think and speak, you'd be full of beans at 96 as well. Meanwhile, someone who has had to actually work for a living might not be so lucky"Respectfully, complete and total bollocks | |||
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. " Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. " Well I don’t think that’s true based on my experience of reading you on here. BUT that is just you, yes. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. Well I don’t think that’s true based on my experience of reading you on here. BUT that is just you, yes. "On an RIP thread I wouldn’t no. Not sure why you think it’s funny. | |||
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On an RIP thread I wouldn’t no. Not sure why you think it’s funny. "Oh on an RIP thread!!!! Good thing that many of the threads about the Queen are not just RIP threads then. Also I know you don’t know why I think this interaction is funny, which is actually also funny to me. . | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. " I don't agree people shouldn't comment on a thread if they don't buy into the opinion of the majority on it. However I do believe there are people who are being very incentive and whilst they may not like the monarchy or the Queen, they are showing very little respect and understanding but a lot of people are wanting to pay tribute to the Queen. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. I don't agree people shouldn't comment on a thread if they don't buy into the opinion of the majority on it. However I do believe there are people who are being very incentive and whilst they may not like the monarchy or the Queen, they are showing very little respect and understanding but a lot of people are wanting to pay tribute to the Queen. " I didn’t say they shouldn’t. I said I wouldn’t. | |||
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"I am I think, or maybe more just a surreal feeling that something is missing, certain things trigger waves of sadness. I am staying away from fb and twitter to avoid all of the hate. " I think you've hit the nail on the head as to how I'm feeling too. Like something is somehow missing. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. " xxx Especially this bit it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Exactly this....perfect | |||
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"I felt sad yesterday as it reminded me off when my grandparents today, I agree it feels surreal today, it will be odd when all the bank notes change as well " Also all crests and badges with a Royal crown at the top: most military & official cap badges will be replaced by a Kings crown. | |||
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" Also all crests and badges with a Royal crown at the top: most military & official cap badges will be replaced by a Kings crown." All police officers badges. It will be expensive | |||
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" Also all crests and badges with a Royal crown at the top: most military & official cap badges will be replaced by a Kings crown. All police officers badges. It will be expensive" Plans will have been in place for this kind of things for a long time and I'm sure preparation has already been started. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Well said... | |||
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" Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. Well I don’t think that’s true based on my experience of reading you on here. BUT that is just you, yes.
On an RIP thread I wouldn’t no. Not sure why you think it’s funny.
Oh on an RIP thread!!!!
Good thing that many of the threads about the Queen are not just RIP threads then.
Also I know you don’t know why I think this interaction is funny, which is actually also funny to me. . "This seems personal,can you keep it away from the forum | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Very eloquently put and this is how I feel also. | |||
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" Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. Well I don’t think that’s true based on my experience of reading you on here. BUT that is just you, yes.
On an RIP thread I wouldn’t no. Not sure why you think it’s funny.
Oh on an RIP thread!!!!
Good thing that many of the threads about the Queen are not just RIP threads then.
Also I know you don’t know why I think this interaction is funny, which is actually also funny to me. .
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"Can I remind people, if you are going to disagree with a post can you do it without attacking the person who posted it. If we have a bit of respect for peoples views then I won't wear my finger out today. This goes both ways btw " A reminder please If you are going to post you have to do it within forum rules,no matter how idiotic / nasty or lacking respect a post is. To the people who are acting like trolls and dropping posts everywhere just to get a rise ,you will be banned if you carry on. | |||
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" Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. Well I don’t think that’s true based on my experience of reading you on here. BUT that is just you, yes.
On an RIP thread I wouldn’t no. Not sure why you think it’s funny.
Oh on an RIP thread!!!!
Good thing that many of the threads about the Queen are not just RIP threads then.
Also I know you don’t know why I think this interaction is funny, which is actually also funny to me. .
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"I find it hugely impressive that she was still working at 96 Yeah all those years of manual labour and working on the tools really took its toll on her
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." My thoughts too but more eloquently explained than I could have done. | |||
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"London seems quieter than normal..... Almost eery. Winston" My husband who is out and about today has just phoned me to tell me exactly that. He said it was eerily quiet until he was on the tube around Westminster down to Earls Court. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." | |||
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"London seems quieter than normal..... Almost eery. Winston It came down to me to ask what was the protocol as to what to do today and we had to ask people higher up, it just feels weird " I think the problem is it all feels like it came as a bit of a shock. I know the Queen had been in ill health but there was no indication until yesterday that the end was imminent so I think it's caught everyone off guard. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. My thoughts too but more eloquently explained than I could have done. " very well said my thoughts exactly | |||
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"I have a different take on it all, especially the born into it arguments. Yes she was born into privilege and wealth as I was born to a working class household. But just like myself she’s made the best of the situation she found herself in. She never asked to be Queen, but unless she was willing to do something really dramatic like abdicate, someone else would’ve taken the role on. There’s very few arguments about her time as Queen, even those who dislike the Monarchy (that includes me) agree she was a great head of state. So I’ll respect the mourning and carry on as normal, to answer the Ops question, I’m not sad but I’m not happy either. " Well said x | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." This is lovely xx | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. This is lovely xx" Yup. Summed it up perfectly. Well done Peach xx | |||
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"I just Googled Queen tribute Leeds to see if there was a book of condolence and all I got was details of a Freddy Mercury tribute act in a working mens club. Sally, all I have to say is thank you. "Would it be too soon and terribly wrong of me to start the rumour of Brian May changing the band's name to King? | |||
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"Who’s feeling sad today?" Yeah pretty much. She was always there and felt like a very calming knowledgeable capable leader. All things must pass but... Sad none the less. | |||
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"I just Googled Queen tribute Leeds to see if there was a book of condolence and all I got was details of a Freddy Mercury tribute act in a working mens club. Sally, all I have to say is thank you.
Would it be too soon and terribly wrong of me to start the rumour of Brian May changing the band's name to King?"The band died when Freddie did. Adam Lambert is no Freddie as much as he calls himself the new Freddie Mercury. Brian May needs to let Queen just be the memory of its excellence and stop trying to revive it. Freddie wouldn't want this | |||
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"I'm sad that's she's gone it doesn't feel real, and also its sad that part of her role involved her sending telegrams to people as they reached 100 and sadly she never got there herself. RIP God save the Queen. " I thought about this only minutes ago. How many people held onto life in their later years for that sole reason? | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. Incredible words x" Thankyou for putting into words what I could not. | |||
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"I think another thing people don't consider as to why folks are melancholy is the connection. Hear me out. My fondest memories I have made with my dad have been over Meat Loaf. My dad had been a huge fan for as long as I could remember. I took him to his first Meat Loaf gig. We shared those experiences and I'm forever thankful for them. When Meat Loaf died it was very sombre for me. I was genuinely really upset. It was the realisation that that was it, forever memories with no new ones to be made over our love of the man and the music. Many many people have that kind of connection with their grandparents regarding the Queen, and her death signals the end of memory making and the loss of that link with their loved one." Yes, very well put. I guess folk have empathy for others or they don't. | |||
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"Who’s feeling sad today?" I am. It’s really odd to think she’s not around any more. | |||
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"Very sad! Was nice watching Charles with the people x" It was nice that he did that. | |||
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"I'm sad that's she's gone it doesn't feel real, and also its sad that part of her role involved her sending telegrams to people as they reached 100 and sadly she never got there herself. RIP God save the Queen. I thought about this only minutes ago. How many people held onto life in their later years for that sole reason? " My next door neighbour was a d day veteran he held on to 99 by staying active. He still went down the pub! Lockdown came along and he wasn't going out and I think that's what killed him. And he kept saying I'll get my telegram soon. Very sad. RIP Harry. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity." Nicely done P. Yesterday I was sad, and I still am for the country's loss, but now I feel strangely happy for her. She is finally free from the burden of duty she felt obliged to carry for her whole adult life, to literally her final days. History will probably never see her like again, certainly nobody here will. ..and if they think I'm changing my Queen's Crowns for Kings, they can jog on.. | |||
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"Not sad, but different .. I lost my 'queen' my Mother back in April and I think this period of mourning will help me along the way.. I do feel a certain amount of manipulation from the media suggesting we should all be sad etc but that was expected... You could argue this whole ' out of respect' thing affecting and closing shops, sporting fixtures etc is strange and one could argue 'out of respect' they should continue to open and participate.. The funeral I have heard is the 19th and yes I can see an argument for closing down just for the day, but let's not milk it." Sorry for the loss of your mum. I think people are forgetting that the Queen was the head of state and in most countries around the world they do similar When the airhead of state dies. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... I'm no royalist but I got no time for it. There's certain things to take the piss out of, but the death of someone loved by millions ain't one of them. I know people chunter on about a cushty life in a Palace and never having money worries n all that, but half of these fuckers would bail after a week of doing her job coz it would be too hard. She probably helps more people in an hour than any "normal" person helps in their entire lifetime and people fail to consider that. She made a promise to serve her country until the end and she kept it, when 80% of people can't keep a promise for more than a week. She put her personal feelings aside in the name of duty, for 70 fucking years. She lived and breathed her role, and yeah, there were times she could probably have done things better, but she literally lived and learnt in the public eye, under immense scrutiny. We get a warning if we fuck up in our job, we ain't got the eyes of the world watching. She's a mother, a grandmother, a great grandmother and has been the only constant thing in most of our lives. I don't think people appreciate we are tolerated by other countries out of respect for the Queen. Fuck all to do with our government, fuck all to do with us as a people. Other leaders admired and respected her. She had far more political clout than she's given credit for, simply by leaving her political views at the door and being welcoming and caring. Her lack of politics has saved our arses. Yes I'm sad. Sad at the ugliness I'm seeing, sad for a family who've lost their mentor and loved one, sad for people who she meant so much to. Sad for all those who've served on the armed forces and are seeing such disrespect towards "their boss" who they literally put their life on the line for. And yeah, I'm sad for myself. As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. Incredible words x Thankyou for putting into words what I could not. " Very very well put. And if people feel so little for our queen. That's fine. Just have enough respect for those that do and keep the bile for a more appropriate time. | |||
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"My view is this, right or wrong... … As much as the monarchy can be divisive, she always tried to bring unity. When we talk about unity, are we talking about the way she was a unifying figure across the many countries that many wish she never ruled over in the first place?? As I said yesterday, it’s sad for many and I respect those grieving but I cannot be a requirement for people to view her as some kind of Saint like figure when she simply wasn’t for many people. Those that are incredibly saddened by her passing, I’m sorry to you. But I think that people are for some reason completely shocked that her passing may not be that sad for some and actually for many she wasn’t tremendous or someone people think deserved power or whatever and certainly was not someone I think many people think represented something that is particularly nice or good or kind or anything but horrific. And what I think people should remind themselves is that those feelings are also valid. And love for the Queen does not invalidate them. Love for or even respect for the royal family and their history and what they stand for does not invalidate those that don’t have any positive feelings toward them. Sometimes on here you see people that are saying you can’t say this and you can’t say that anymore and everyone is a snowflake and this has just been them wishing and willing people to shut up because they don’t agree. Unfortunately, we are not all the heroes in everyone’s story. And death does not protect us from critique. Perhaps not the same but when Mandela died, when George Floyd died, when Kobe Bryant died, everyone was so quick to highlight their shortcomings almost immediately after their death and though it hurt me, it taught me that in this life, in this world, nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it is. I’m waffling here but I just feel like everyone should be the people they are always telling others to be when it comes to hearing things they don’t like on here. Then I just wouldn’t comment on all the threads if I wasn’t feeling the same as the majority on them. But hey that’s just me. Same here Nora. But some folk just can't help themselves. " WHO specifically are the folks you mean? And as has been clarified to Nora already, all these threads are not RIP threads. They’re threads asking different things and people are more than entitled to answer. | |||
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"Ha just seen something up there comparing George Floyd's death with our Queen. Awesome work whoever that was. " Why are people over here so obsessed with him? | |||
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"Are the BBC going to dedicate the same amount of coverage to those pensioners dying of starvation or the cold. At least she had the best healthcare and didn't have to die on a trolley in a hospital corridor. But on a down side whilst she was paying respect to her husband the politicians were throwing parties. So I have mixed emotions " No. Why would they? Meanwhile this is an op about the Queen. Feel free to start a thread about the nhs or pensioners. | |||
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"Ha just seen something up there comparing George Floyd's death with our Queen. Awesome work whoever that was. " And in context that point was - ‘nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it’ It was also not a comparison as there was an acknowledgement that they’re perhaps not the same. Anyway, as I said before, I was on fab when George Floyd died, and if you think people are disrespecting the Queen’s death, you should’ve seen the things people (That’s are Still here) said after that. | |||
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"Very sad, all we have known is the country being under the Queens reign. It truly is the end of an incredible era My dad is 88 and he had three kings before our Queen" My dad worked with a man who attended Queen Victoria's funeral as a member of the armed forces and his aunt watched the boat carry her body across the Solent. Anyone born before 1935 will have lived through four reigns. | |||
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"Are the BBC going to dedicate the same amount of coverage to those pensioners dying of starvation or the cold. At least she had the best healthcare and didn't have to die on a trolley in a hospital corridor. But on a down side whilst she was paying respect to her husband the politicians were throwing parties. So I have mixed emotions No. Why would they? Meanwhile this is an op about the Queen. Feel free to start a thread about the nhs or pensioners. " Was about my feelings as well if you notice | |||
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"Are the BBC going to dedicate the same amount of coverage to those pensioners dying of starvation or the cold. At least she had the best healthcare and didn't have to die on a trolley in a hospital corridor. But on a down side whilst she was paying respect to her husband the politicians were throwing parties. So I have mixed emotions No. Why would they? Meanwhile this is an op about the Queen. Feel free to start a thread about the nhs or pensioners. " | |||
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"Very sad today but can't stop thinking of King Charles spaniel Yes I know its awful " My thoughts exactly, waiting for a meme of Charles with crown on big floppy ears added | |||
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"Very sad, all we have known is the country being under the Queens reign. It truly is the end of an incredible era My dad is 88 and he had three kings before our Queen My dad worked with a man who attended Queen Victoria's funeral as a member of the armed forces and his aunt watched the boat carry her body across the Solent. Anyone born before 1935 will have lived through four reigns.
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"I just Googled Queen tribute Leeds to see if there was a book of condolence and all I got was details of a Freddy Mercury tribute act in a working mens club." There's a book of condolence on the Royal Family website | |||
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"Ha just seen something up there comparing George Floyd's death with our Queen. Awesome work whoever that was. And in context that point was - ‘nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it’ It was also not a comparison as there was an acknowledgement that they’re perhaps not the same. Anyway, as I said before, I was on fab when George Floyd died, and if you think people are disrespecting the Queen’s death, you should’ve seen the things people (That’s are Still here) said after that. "I missed that part of the thread but why would anyone expect there to be any equivalence between our head of state for 70 years and a man murdered by police in a other country. | |||
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"Ha just seen something up there comparing George Floyd's death with our Queen. Awesome work whoever that was. And in context that point was - ‘nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it’ It was also not a comparison as there was an acknowledgement that they’re perhaps not the same. Anyway, as I said before, I was on fab when George Floyd died, and if you think people are disrespecting the Queen’s death, you should’ve seen the things people (That’s are Still here) said after that.
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"Very sad, all we have known is the country being under the Queens reign. It truly is the end of an incredible era My dad is 88 and he had three kings before our Queen My dad worked with a man who attended Queen Victoria's funeral as a member of the armed forces and his aunt watched the boat carry her body across the Solent. Anyone born before 1935 will have lived through four reigns.
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"Ha just seen something up there comparing George Floyd's death with our Queen. Awesome work whoever that was. And in context that point was - ‘nobody is as respectful for those they don’t like as they want others to be for those they do. Which is shit. But it is what it’ It was also not a comparison as there was an acknowledgement that they’re perhaps not the same. Anyway, as I said before, I was on fab when George Floyd died, and if you think people are disrespecting the Queen’s death, you should’ve seen the things people (That’s are Still here) said after that.
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