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"How do you feel about foxes?" Exactly or any wild animals that come into gardens. I'm sure to most wild animals we are the biggest pests around. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. " Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. " Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr | |||
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"How do you feel about foxes? Exactly or any wild animals that come into gardens. I'm sure to most wild animals we are the biggest pests around." We encourage the foxes because they keep the rats down and the slugs. We have to clear fox poo daily though and they dig up my plants unless I cover them. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr" Couldn't agree more. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable?" How do you know her cat shits in neighbouring gardens ,many use litters like mine do. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable?" What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? | |||
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"How do you feel about foxes? Exactly or any wild animals that come into gardens. I'm sure to most wild animals we are the biggest pests around. We encourage the foxes because they keep the rats down and the slugs. We have to clear fox poo daily though and they dig up my plants unless I cover them. " Foxes are indigenous wild animals. Cats are a domesticated invasive species. Really isn't a like for like comparison is it. And do Foxes kill 27 million birds a year? They absolutely don't. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr" You mean like foxes? Foxes also do all the things you have just described. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable?" I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive | |||
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"How do you feel about foxes? Exactly or any wild animals that come into gardens. I'm sure to most wild animals we are the biggest pests around. We encourage the foxes because they keep the rats down and the slugs. We have to clear fox poo daily though and they dig up my plants unless I cover them. Foxes are indigenous wild animals. Cats are a domesticated invasive species. Really isn't a like for like comparison is it. And do Foxes kill 27 million birds a year? They absolutely don't." Again what are you talking about because England has the only people species of native wild cat in Europe. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? " Yep, your cat is completely different to all the other cats. Doesn't shit outside, doesn't kill birds. Doesn't do cat things whatsoever. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive" I don't think ours has ever killed a bird she is far too lazy.  | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? Yep, your cat is completely different to all the other cats. Doesn't shit outside, doesn't kill birds. Doesn't do cat things whatsoever. " You clearly know nothing about cats because most domestic cats with a literary will use that rather than outdoors. You say you don't hate cats yet you are doing a very good impression of someone that does and someone that make some lot of assumptions. You have stated facts on this thread that are not true. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? Yep, your cat is completely different to all the other cats. Doesn't shit outside, doesn't kill birds. Doesn't do cat things whatsoever. " Not all cats kill things either ,you're generalising . Some do yes ,but not all do You do sound like a cat hater though op tbh. | |||
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"How do you feel about foxes? Exactly or any wild animals that come into gardens. I'm sure to most wild animals we are the biggest pests around. We encourage the foxes because they keep the rats down and the slugs. We have to clear fox poo daily though and they dig up my plants unless I cover them. Foxes are indigenous wild animals. Cats are a domesticated invasive species. Really isn't a like for like comparison is it. And do Foxes kill 27 million birds a year? They absolutely don't." As I say I support your right to dislike cats. I don't know how many birds foxes kill, I do know they killed our chickens though and left the headless bodies of the ones they didn't eat. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr You mean like foxes? Foxes also do all the things you have just described. " Your missing the point. People don't have foxes as pets. It's the fact I love in a street where nearly everyone but me has a cat, so guess which garden they choose to shit in?!? Made a nice veg patch and have given up as it's just a litter tray, covered over now, complete waste of time. You cannot compare domestic cats with wild foxes! | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? Yep, your cat is completely different to all the other cats. Doesn't shit outside, doesn't kill birds. Doesn't do cat things whatsoever. Not all cats kill things either ,you're generalising . Some do yes ,but not all do You do sound like a cat hater though op tbh." Thank you. My cat more certainly does do cat like things. She sleeps for around 16 hours A-day, Poops in her litter tray especially when we have just cleaned it, Looks down her nose at us and thinks she owns the place so I can assure you she is very cat like. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive I don't think ours has ever killed a bird she is far too lazy. "Our boy is a total scardy , We once had a chicken wander from a local farm and it was on our wall.He ran inside as fast as his little legs would go | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive I don't think ours has ever killed a bird she is far too lazy.
Our boy is a total scardy ,
We once had a chicken wander from a local farm and it was on our wall.He ran inside as fast as his little legs would go "We very much hoped our cat would kill the flies and spiders but she runs away from them. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive I don't think ours has ever killed a bird she is far too lazy.
Our boy is a total scardy ,
We once had a chicken wander from a local farm and it was on our wall.He ran inside as fast as his little legs would go
We very much hoped our cat would kill the flies and spiders but she runs away from them. "Ha ha ours manage flies and moths & that's about it thankfully ! | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats." Clearly you've met every cat in the UK & studied them in detail you know better than cat owners. You don't like them ,we get it | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats." Again you are wrong. You seem to know very little about cats and just stating things as facts doesn't make it true. I don't understand why you said you're not a cat hater when very clearly you are and you should just own that. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive" Is it an excessive estimate? Let's do the maths. Of course this is only guess work, but more than plausible. Let's say a cat lives for 10 years. Let's say that cat kills 3 birds a week. That's over 1500 birds. Now those numbers don't seem that wild to me. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive Is it an excessive estimate? Let's do the maths. Of course this is only guess work, but more than plausible. Let's say a cat lives for 10 years. Let's say that cat kills 3 birds a week. That's over 1500 birds. Now those numbers don't seem that wild to me." Most domestic cats do not kill on average 3 birds a week. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. " they are both in different peoples eyes,,, i regard them as pests but would never hurt 1 intentionally but they do kill lots of birds, mice, voles, etc and damage peoples gardens and property when doing their business and marking their patch,, people who love them should be allowed to keep them but only as indoor pets which would protect wildlife and the gardens of non cat lovers,,,  | |||
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they have never brought me a dead bird, they bring them alive I put them back outside, if they live after that then yayyy.. this happens maybe once a year in the summer.  | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive Is it an excessive estimate? Let's do the maths. Of course this is only guess work, but more than plausible. Let's say a cat lives for 10 years. Let's say that cat kills 3 birds a week. That's over 1500 birds. Now those numbers don't seem that wild to me. Most domestic cats do not kill on average 3 birds a week. " You know this do you? How do you account for 27 million dead birds a year? You say it's not the domestic cats. Well it sure ain't the wild cats. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive Is it an excessive estimate? Let's do the maths. Of course this is only guess work, but more than plausible. Let's say a cat lives for 10 years. Let's say that cat kills 3 birds a week. That's over 1500 birds. Now those numbers don't seem that wild to me." As I said I support your right to dislike cats. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? I support your right to dislike cats even though I disagree with it but your claim that one cat will kill thousands of birds in its lifetime is a little excessive Is it an excessive estimate? Let's do the maths. Of course this is only guess work, but more than plausible. Let's say a cat lives for 10 years. Let's say that cat kills 3 birds a week. That's over 1500 birds. Now those numbers don't seem that wild to me. Most domestic cats do not kill on average 3 birds a week. You know this do you? How do you account for 27 million dead birds a year? You say it's not the domestic cats. Well it sure ain't the wild cats." You tell me because you seem to know everything about cats and how many birds each cat kills on average a week. I have already explained to you there are several animals that kill birds so I would suggest a good chunk of that are the other animals. Also I did not say domestic cats do not kill birds, I said I very much doubt the vast majority kill on average 3 a week which is what you have just claimed. | |||
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"There are 10.8 million cats in the UK that are domesticated. If you claim 27 million birds are killed a year your maths of each cat killing 3 A week doesn't really work does it. Bats, foxes, squirrels and birds of pray also kill birds. " It's weird that people keep comparing wild animals to a domesticated pet. And the bottom line is, I'd rather see birds in my garden than a load of cat shit. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats." Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do " Yep, I'm vegan | |||
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"There are 10.8 million cats in the UK that are domesticated. If you claim 27 million birds are killed a year your maths of each cat killing 3 A week doesn't really work does it. Bats, foxes, squirrels and birds of pray also kill birds. It's weird that people keep comparing wild animals to a domesticated pet. And the bottom line is, I'd rather see birds in my garden than a load of cat shit. " Still not going to admit you are no way you can correct I see. You literally asked me how I accounted for the 27 million dead birds so I told you. | |||
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"There are 10.8 million cats in the UK that are domesticated. If you claim 27 million birds are killed a year your maths of each cat killing 3 A week doesn't really work does it. Bats, foxes, squirrels and birds of pray also kill birds. It's weird that people keep comparing wild animals to a domesticated pet. And the bottom line is, I'd rather see birds in my garden than a load of cat shit. Still not going to admit you are no way you can correct I see. You literally asked me how I accounted for the 27 million dead birds so I told you. " Cats kill 27 million birds in the UK needlessly just so you can have your cuddles. Not sure what else you want me to say tbh. | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one. "Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit. | |||
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"There are 10.8 million cats in the UK that are domesticated. If you claim 27 million birds are killed a year your maths of each cat killing 3 A week doesn't really work does it. Bats, foxes, squirrels and birds of pray also kill birds. It's weird that people keep comparing wild animals to a domesticated pet. And the bottom line is, I'd rather see birds in my garden than a load of cat shit. Still not going to admit you are no way you can correct I see. You literally asked me how I accounted for the 27 million dead birds so I told you. Cats kill 27 million birds in the UK needlessly just so you can have your cuddles. Not sure what else you want me to say tbh." Yukraine cats kill on average 3 birds a week. The reality is Each cat on average kills around 3 A year. At the end of our road we have a beautiful pond and about 7 swans and ducks are killed a year by cars so I'll tell you what let's ban all cars. | |||
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"The OP has a point... no one has really addressed any of them in any meaningful way to debate it? Rather, youre spewing emotive responses about youre personal moggy. And so it degenerates... not surprising considering... well... anyway... Two things to consider... the BBC did a week long documentary about the secret life of cats... the domesticated uk type. Litterally tracked 12 of them for a week 24hrs a day. It was excellent and enlightening. The most successful hunter was the lazy anxious female, by a long shot. 1500 birds is entirely possible as it points out... anyways its worth a watch. Oh and finally one of the most successful predators on the plant... is a 17in african black foot cat... 60% of its attacks are successful. Theyre killing machines... lions have a 25% success rate for colour... again...really good bbc doco on them too which had them at no1 in the cat world. Oh BTW I like cats... "  | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one.
Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit."You are upset that this person has made assumptions but that is exactly what you have chosen to do . | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one.
Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit."Isn't that like assuming all cats kill birds? | |||
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"The OP has a point... no one has really addressed any of them in any meaningful way to debate it? Rather, youre spewing emotive responses about youre personal moggy. And so it degenerates... not surprising considering... well... anyway... Two things to consider... the BBC did a week long documentary about the secret life of cats... the domesticated uk type. Litterally tracked 12 of them for a week 24hrs a day. It was excellent and enlightening. The most successful hunter was the lazy anxious female, by a long shot. 1500 birds is entirely possible as it points out... anyways its worth a watch. Oh and finally one of the most successful predators on the plant... is a 17in african black foot cat... 60% of its attacks are successful. Theyre killing machines... lions have a 25% success rate for colour... again...really good bbc doco on them too which had them at no1 in the cat world. Oh BTW I like cats... " 1500 Isn't possible simply because we have 10 million domestic cats in the uk yet 27 million birds killed by cats so the maths doesn't work does it. | |||
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"How as a society can we justify cats killing birds? Ohh please?? Us humans do far much more killing and damage than any cat!! X" I'm not justifying human behavior. The reason cats are a problem because of human behavior. I always find it odd when people try and justify a specific problem or argument by saying 'well what about this (insert orger issue). I was talking about all the other shitty, vile traits humans have. We can debate that on another thread. | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one.
Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit.
Isn't that like assuming all cats kill birds?"I didn't say that. Cats kill 27 million birds a year is what I said. I said cats are a pest. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats." And us hoomans don't do untold damage? Laughable cats compared to us hoomans is like comparing a grain of sand(the cats damage) to a whole beach! Us hoomans! x | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one.
Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit.
Isn't that like assuming all cats kill birds?
I didn't say that. Cats kill 27 million birds a year is what I said. I said cats are a pest. "So get rid of all cats because some kill. So shall we wipe out the human race because some people are murderers? | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. And us hoomans don't do untold damage? Laughable cats compared to us hoomans is like comparing a grain of sand(the cats damage) to a whole beach! Us hoomans! x"Right, I'll try and address this again. I'm not defending human shitty behaviour. Humans are fucking awful. You probably are, I probably am, I try not to be, but yeah we all do shit. This thread is about cats killing birds and shitting in my garden. Start a thread about how shit humans are and I'll happily contribute to it. | |||
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"Op -Cats are good for helping people with stess and anxiety. Perhaps you should get one.
Who says I'm stressed and have anxiety? Hell of an assumption to make. It's a legitimate post on why I think cats are pests. It's hilarious how people go bat shit crazy when you mention someone mentions they don't like cats. Got blocked by a few people, even had a couple of people PM then block me so I couldn't reply. Very odd. All because I prefer birds in my garden rather than cat shit.
Isn't that like assuming all cats kill birds?
I didn't say that. Cats kill 27 million birds a year is what I said. I said cats are a pest.
So get rid of all cats because some kill. So shall we wipe out the human race because some people are murderers?"Again another weird comparison. And did I say get rid of all cats? That's 2 quotes you've made up now that you've attributed to me. | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats "But we not talking our freedoms? We talking cats??  x | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats "I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats. | |||
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"Cats are vermin and should be treated as such my opinion or there so called lovely owners should take responsibility for them." Cats are not vermin and the majority of people get cats to keep vermin away. What responsibility would you like cat owners to take? | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats. "Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that! | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!"Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other. | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!
Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other."You said initially I wanted to get rid of all cats  I didn't say that.
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!
Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other."Read your first and tell me what you meant about laws then? And is there a reason you need to swear all the time? | |||
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"Cats are vermin and should be treated as such my opinion or there so called lovely owners should take responsibility for them. Cats are not vermin and the majority of people get cats to keep vermin away. What responsibility would you like cat owners to take?" keep them inside would help or don't get face on when I explain what I'll do otherwise | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats. "Me saying I think cats are pests because they kill birds and shit all over my garden. Is that really weird. What's weird is getting blocked because I don't like cats. Or people PM shit because I don't like cats. Don't you think? | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!
Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other.
Read your first and tell me what you meant about laws then? And is there a reason you need to swear all the time?"Haha I like swearing. Sorry if it offends. | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!
Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other.
Read your first and tell me what you meant about laws then? And is there a reason you need to swear all the time?
Haha I like swearing. Sorry if it offends. "Yes, it does. I think there needs to be a law about swearing on forum posts. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan "That explains a lot | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot "Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me "Does it? | |||
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"People getting all weird about cats. Love it. You can take our freedom, but you can't talk shit about our cats
I think it's only you really that's got weird about cats.
Nothing more weird than wanting to introduce laws for owning cats. And yes op, you did say that!
Erm no I didn't. Either learn to read properly or stop making shit up. It's either one or the other.
Read your first and tell me what you meant about laws then? And is there a reason you need to swear all the time?
Haha I like swearing. Sorry if it offends.
Yes, it does. I think there needs to be a law about swearing on forum posts. "Now I know you're taking the p**s | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it? "Yep. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep."What does it say about them? | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them? "He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear."You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear."What judgement did he make? | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around. "Yes op, you assumed someones cat was called tigger! | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Yes op, you assumed someones cat was called tigger!"Damn, you got me there. You correctly attributed 1 quote out of 3 to me. Keep this up and you might get to 50%. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. " Zzzzzz | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Yes op, you assumed someones cat was called tigger!
Damn, you got me there. You correctly attributed 1 quote out of 3 to me. Keep this up and you might get to 50%."And you manage to not swear. Well done. Did you know cats dont swear? They are purrfect | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. " Cats don't maul humans to death or seriously disfigure them like some dogs have done... I have 4 cats, only 1 is a bird killer. The main problem I faced was my neighbours bird table. Maybe non cat owners should be more responsible and not feed the birds when they know there are lots of cats about I agree there are too many cats being born though. All mine are rescue cats, so I make a case that cats are subjected to a abuse by some humans... therefore some cats are victims. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. " Both.. pets for their owners and fucking annoying pests for all their neighbours. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr" I totally agree...cats are a pest...allowed to use peoples gardens as a toilet it's disgusting, kill thousands of birds Some one near me walks his cat on a lead and harness...which the cat enjoys. This should be the norm for all cats...walk them on a harness and lead and pick up after them. | |||
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"I’m going to give my cat a good talking too about shitting in others gardens! " Love this! I said this to a woman who knocked on my door long long ago saying my cat shat in her garden I said i will ask her not 2! Even though think it was a simlar looking cat anyway as she rarely left the garden x | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Yes op, you assumed someones cat was called tigger!
Damn, you got me there. You correctly attributed 1 quote out of 3 to me. Keep this up and you might get to 50%.
And you manage to not swear. Well done.
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"I’m going to give my cat a good talking too about shitting in others gardens! Love this! I said this to a woman who knocked on my door long long ago saying my cat shat in her garden I said i will ask her not 2! Even though think it was a simlar looking cat anyway as she rarely left the garden x" 4 legs? Whiskers? Tail? That'll be the same one. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around. "Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds. | |||
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"I’m going to give my cat a good talking too about shitting in others gardens! Love this! I said this to a woman who knocked on my door long long ago saying my cat shat in her garden I said i will ask her not 2! Even though think it was a simlar looking cat anyway as she rarely left the garden x 4 legs? Whiskers? Tail? That'll be the same one. " Black and white yes lots like my long departed tinkerbell around at that time x | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds."And if he's not judging me. What do think he meant by it? Yes, I'm assuming he's trying to judge and insult me. What else could it be? I may be wrong. I'm happy to listen to what else it could have meant. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable?" my cats often bring me mice,rats and birds, even had a squirrel or two... and yes I think it's acceptable... However my cats don't shit in the neighbours gardens either... as they tend to come in and use their litter trays. Local foxes however love to crap I'm my garden.. | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr I totally agree...cats are a pest...allowed to use peoples gardens as a toilet it's disgusting, kill thousands of birds Some one near me walks his cat on a lead and harness...which the cat enjoys. This should be the norm for all cats...walk them on a harness and lead and pick up after them. "just listen to yourself you sound like a tool! | |||
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"Do you realise it's just nature for cats to catch/kill & also unlucky you a cat shits in your garden you can't tell them not to it's what they do "if he gets a cat, other cats won't shit in the garden | |||
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"Do you realise it's just nature for cats to catch/kill & also unlucky you a cat shits in your garden you can't tell them not to it's what they do if he gets a cat, other cats won't shit in the garden "I really hope the cat that is shitting in his garden tells another 5 to do it | |||
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"I have 6 dogs, they keep the garden free of birds and cats. I’ve also got house cats, worse decision ever! Harder work than all the dogs out together and soooooooo destructive I recall reading that a country (Australia?) had banned cats going out and said they all had to be indoor cats Maybe we’re heading that way since the UK government required all cats now have to be microchipped It’d also stop my various neighbours from standing in their gardens every evening banging cat bowls and screaming their pets name at full volume until the pesky thing returns " 8 dogs over here & the cats over the back wind them up constantly on the back wall it drives me mad | |||
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"Cats. Pests or pets? A bit long winded this one but, I'm going with pests all day long. I have a personal grudge like many do. They started off shitting in all my flower beds. There was that much, it started to kill off the flowers. No sooner had I cleaned it all out, as soon as I turned my back, there would be another stinking, streaming pile of shite. I ended up spending a small fortune on these rolls with plastic spikes to put on the flower beds. They're specifically designed so cats can't walk on them. They don't hurt the cats whatsoever, they just can't walk on them. They worked a treat for about a year, but now the next-door neighbour's cat has started shitting on my lawn. Like wtaf! It's like it knows exactly how to piss me off. But it's not just that I don't like about them. They're horrible yawling they do at ridiculous o'clock. Or when they spray everywhere, bleurgh. But the one that really gets me, an estimated 27 million birds are killed every year in the UK alone by cats. An estimated 100 million other animals overall. How can we as a society justify that? That's bird genocide on an industrial scale. The argument of they're animals it's what animals do, or survival of the fittest etc isn't a sound argument. Domesticated cats are an invasive species and are only here in their millions because people allow it. Yes I understand they're cute, make nice pets, but surely it's selfish behaviour from humans and about their wants is why we keep cats as pets. Surely any true animal lover wouldn't ever own a cat. The ecological damage they do is huge. I'm not a cat hater, I get why people like them, I just think they're pests and the law should maybe change in some way in regards to owning them. This thread isn't about being cruel to cats btw. Any animal cruelty is unacceptable. Constantly clearing up cat shit from my garden, plants dug up, seeds dug up. Absolutely no birds in mine or the local garden as they simply can't survive, but aren't they lovely...... No. I agree complete pests, no one would tolerate others shitting in their garden or killing all the local birdlife, but with cats it's apparently ok. Grrrrrr I totally agree...cats are a pest...allowed to use peoples gardens as a toilet it's disgusting, kill thousands of birds Some one near me walks his cat on a lead and harness...which the cat enjoys. This should be the norm for all cats...walk them on a harness and lead and pick up after them. just listen to yourself you sound like a tool! "Why are you personally attacking people? People have agreed or disagreed on this thread, but no one has resorted to name calling apart from you. Is it necessary? | |||
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" Why are you personally attacking people? People have agreed or disagreed on this thread, but no one has resorted to name calling apart from you. Is it necessary?" I think they were referring to the person that said we were heading towards all cats having to be indoors cats or walking them on leads... Yes in Australia they have now made it law ( I think only certain places) but its to protect the indigenous animals Cats are not indoors animals | |||
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"Where has this figure of 27 million dead birds come from?" The op has spent the last 12 months travelling the uk counting them! | |||
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" Why are you personally attacking people? People have agreed or disagreed on this thread, but no one has resorted to name calling apart from you. Is it necessary? I think they were referring to the person that said we were heading towards all cats having to be indoors cats or walking them on leads... Yes in Australia they have now made it law ( I think only certain places) but its to protect the indigenous animals Cats are not indoors animals " Cats can be kept indoors, with maybe a secure garden area. If you aren't prepared to do that, don't have one. You can't just kick your dogs out the front door all day and night. | |||
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"I'm sorry but yes cats are absolutely pets and why would I not want one. Our cat is like our child and I absolutely would do anything for her she is not a pet she is part of the family. Because it shits all over your neighbour's gardens and will probably kill hundreds if not thousands of birds in it's lifetime. Why do you think that's acceptable? What are you talking about! You are aware of the life cycle right? and all cats are doing is what they are meant to do. My cat doesn't shit in anyone's garden she cannot wait till her litter tray is fresh and even if she's already done a poo that day we'll do another one just because she can. You will come in from outside to do a poo in her tray. bats, squirrels, foxes all kill birds as do birds of pray do you want them all kept indoors too? Yep, your cat is completely different to all the other cats. Doesn't shit outside, doesn't kill birds. Doesn't do cat things whatsoever. " My cat doesn't shit outside, she comes in and uses the litter tray. She's never caught a bird, let alone killed one. Just because some cats do what you complain about doesn't mean they all do. | |||
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" Why are you personally attacking people? People have agreed or disagreed on this thread, but no one has resorted to name calling apart from you. Is it necessary? I think they were referring to the person that said we were heading towards all cats having to be indoors cats or walking them on leads... Yes in Australia they have now made it law ( I think only certain places) but its to protect the indigenous animals Cats are not indoors animals " Some cats are housecats aren't they? | |||
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"Where has this figure of 27 million dead birds come from? I saw it on the RSPB web site" The same site that says: Despite the large numbers of birds killed by cats in gardens, there is no clear scientific evidence that such mortality is causing bird populations to decline. This may be surprising, but many millions of birds die naturally every year, mainly through starvation, disease or other forms of predation. There is evidence that cats tend to take weak or sickly birds. We also know that of the millions of baby birds hatched each year, most will die before they reach breeding age. This is also quite natural, and each pair needs only to rear two young that survive to breeding age to replace themselves and maintain the population. It is likely that most of the birds killed by cats would have died anyway from other causes before the next breeding season, so cats are unlikely to have a major impact on populations. https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-for-wildlife/animal-deterrents/cats-and-garden-birds/are-cats-causing-bird-declines/ | |||
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"Where has this figure of 27 million dead birds come from? The op has spent the last 12 months travelling the uk counting them!" Ah it's you again. Why do you keep misquoting or just blatantly making things up about me? Is my original post about not liking cat shit in my garden and I'd rather see birds than the local cat that controversial you feel the need to? | |||
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"Where has this figure of 27 million dead birds come from? The op has spent the last 12 months travelling the uk counting them! Ah it's you again. Why do you keep misquoting or just blatantly making things up about me? Is my original post about not liking cat shit in my garden and I'd rather see birds than the local cat that controversial you feel the need to?" Someone needs to get a sense of humour. Oh and a life! | |||
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"Where has this figure of 27 million dead birds come from? The op has spent the last 12 months travelling the uk counting them! Ah it's you again. Why do you keep misquoting or just blatantly making things up about me? Is my original post about not liking cat shit in my garden and I'd rather see birds than the local cat that controversial you feel the need to? Someone needs to get a sense of humour. Oh and a life! "Thanks for that. | |||
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" Why are you personally attacking people? People have agreed or disagreed on this thread, but no one has resorted to name calling apart from you. Is it necessary? I think they were referring to the person that said we were heading towards all cats having to be indoors cats or walking them on leads... Yes in Australia they have now made it law ( I think only certain places) but its to protect the indigenous animals Cats are not indoors animals Some cats are housecats aren't they? " Yes. Ragdolls for instance. My daughter kept a Bengal as a housecat. He could even use the toilet. I always maintain he could have been taught to flush. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds."You mean like you answered my questions. | |||
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"Op I never insulted your life choice to be a Vegan it was an observation that I find lots of Vegans to be very self righteous believing that their way of life is superior to the rest of us. Many examples of vegans steaming into restaurants stopping people having a meal. Also lately deciding no one can drink milk either. Your whole post is condemning cat owners. Apparently Magpies kill vast numbers of young birds and dare say shit on peoples cars too are you going to ask for laws to curb the behaviour of Magpies too. " Erm nope. Wrong. I've not condemned anyone on this post, not once. I said I find cats are pests then gave my reasons. However you've made a judgement on me, based on the only thing you know about me and a lazy, out of date stereotype. So yeah, I think the comment 'that explains a lot.' Says more about you than it does about me. And again, comparing wild animals, magpies in this instance, to domestic pets is an unusual comparison. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds.
You mean like you answered my questions. "Ask your question again. I genuinely might have missed them. I'll happily answer if I can. If I can't, I'll be open and honest and explain why I'm struggling to answer it. In the meantime, feel free to answer mine | |||
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"Why not simply send the shit flying back over into the cat owners garden? A small shovel should do the trick?" I actually really like my neighbours. They're lovely people. I just find their cat's habbits a frustrating. | |||
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"Why not simply send the shit flying back over into the cat owners garden? A small shovel should do the trick? I actually really like my neighbours. They're lovely people. I just find their cat's habbits a frustrating. " Give cats a chance, think of all their owners! Sing with me
Imagine there's no cats
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the cats
Living for today
Imagine there's no cats
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for (except anything that looks like prey)
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" i regard them as pests... people who love them should be allowed to keep them but only as indoor pets " I feel the same about children | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds.
You mean like you answered my questions.
Ask your question again. I genuinely might have missed them. I'll happily answer if I can. If I can't, I'll be open and honest and explain why I'm struggling to answer it. In the meantime, feel free to answer mine "You didn't miss them you replied to each one but without actually answering the question in fact you actively avoided it. I don't need to answer your question because you have literally made an assumption. Absolutely no judgement was made you just think it was. | |||
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"Obviously everyone posting on this thread about how wonderful their cat is. Little tigger doesn't shit outside. Little tigger has a bell on it's collar(bells don't work. 27 million dead birds every year says that). Little tigger is far too lazy. Do you honestly believe your cat is so different to a cat, it doesn't do cat things? Come on! Cats are an evasive species btw. They're not part of the natural life cycle as someone put it on here. They do untold damage to the eco system. This is a fact. But you're lovely little Tigger is different than all the other cats. Have a dog had cats in the past you obviously just don’t like cats. With all your concern about this I hope your vegan as nothing on the planet kills any animals like us Humans do Yep, I'm vegan
That explains a lot
Wow! That comment says more about you than it ever does about me
Does it?
Yep.
What does it say about them?
He's judging me for being vegan and using it as an a supposed insult by saying 'that explains a lot.' Trying to insult me on my personal life choice which have no effect on his life whatsoever. So yeah, I think it says quite a lot about him tbh. And he mentioned veganism first by the way. Just to be clear.
You actually don't know whether he is judging you, it is an assumption. You have judged me and others on this thread if you don't like being judged maybe don't throw judgements around.
Who've I judged? 3rd question I've asked you and no doubt you won't reply to this like you didn't to the previous two. I've said I don't like cats shitting in my garden or killing birds.
You mean like you answered my questions.
Ask your question again. I genuinely might have missed them. I'll happily answer if I can. If I can't, I'll be open and honest and explain why I'm struggling to answer it. In the meantime, feel free to answer mine
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though." But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want." Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? " It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question." If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? " And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. " If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? " I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? " Some house insurance covers damage caused by pets | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. " You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you?" We have never had a complaint about our cat and she is loved by our neighbours. Before you keep asking questions why don't you answer the one I ask you. What exactly do you expect cat owners to do And how would you like the law changed? I wouldn't deal with it because my cat has never caused any distress to anybody. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you? We have never had a complaint about our cat and she is loved by our neighbours. Before you keep asking questions why don't you answer the one I ask you. What exactly do you expect cat owners to do And how would you like the law changed? I wouldn't deal with it because my cat has never caused any distress to anybody. " Unless your cat is kept in the home at all times you would not know what it does in the neighbourhood. Are you a responsible pet owner? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you?"  | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you? We have never had a complaint about our cat and she is loved by our neighbours. Before you keep asking questions why don't you answer the one I ask you. What exactly do you expect cat owners to do And how would you like the law changed? I wouldn't deal with it because my cat has never caused any distress to anybody. Unless your cat is kept in the home at all times you would not know what it does in the neighbourhood. Are you a responsible pet owner? " Please just stop asking questions and answer what you have been asked or leave it. I have absolutely every faith that our neighbours would come and talk to us if there was a problem with our cat and because they never have I am assuming no problem. I cannot be held responsible for what my cat does if no one tells me about it. Would you like to tell me what my responsibilities as a cat owner are please? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you? We have never had a complaint about our cat and she is loved by our neighbours. Before you keep asking questions why don't you answer the one I ask you. What exactly do you expect cat owners to do And how would you like the law changed? I wouldn't deal with it because my cat has never caused any distress to anybody. Unless your cat is kept in the home at all times you would not know what it does in the neighbourhood. Are you a responsible pet owner? " The UK law puts cats under the protection of the freedom of the right to roam. Presumably because nobody is daft enough to try and attempt to tell a cat what it should/or shouldn't be doing? Maybe the government can establish a branch of the cat police? And fund officers attending homes with cats to explain to the cats where they may or may not go? | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? " Interesting that the Law states that if you run over a dog you must inform the Police and insurance. But if you run over a cat you can carry on your day with no insurance issues. The Law sees a cat different to a dog. | |||
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"OP, just to play devils' advocate for a minute, how would You solve the problem? Euthanase cats? No. No idea how to solve the problem. I still think they're pests though. But you want the law changed in relation to cat owners. You must have an idea of what laws you want. Do you think owning an animal should carry no accountability to the owner, if the animal is creating a problem of significant discomfort to neighbours or others? It really doesn't cause any discomfort though does it. What laws would you like seeing as the op keeps glossing over the question. If your cat was being a nuisance, would you own the issue or not? And how would you like a cat owner to own that and what would you like them to do about it? Interesting that several people have said similar to you and when asked the same question don't come up with an answer. If loss / damage to property was evidenced to your cat, that upset or caused loss to your neighbours what would you do? I notice you won't answer the question and that seems to be a common theme. You have a cat? How would you deal with damage or loss to a neighbour? Pretty simple question, or have you not considered the effect your pet may have locally to you?" What actual level of damage and loss are cats causing in their local areas then? I mean other than shitting in gardens, are they stealing cars and breaking into houses to steal tellys? | |||
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