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I know what to do when things are not up in the air but they ARE up in the air.
Earlier this year I had a full central heating system put in and a new boiler. What a fuffin waste.
Now I want a new kitchen and every time I think of getting a new cooker I think ........ wtf for. ??
Shall I get leccy or gas ??
I know this place is for anything except sex so don't say you will stick your bits in it or anything like that ?
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
That doesn't make sense.......
Not to me anyway ....
Unless you wish outages on me .....  "
I do not wish outages on you Granny.
A politician told us we would not be having planned outages or rationing this winter. I suspect that means we will. Hence my advice to go for gas, you can light that with a match.  |
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I have gas hobs and only one for omelettes. My 'main' electric oven is never used. For cooking I have a microwave with a convection fan function. Also have a microwave steamer. Everything can be cooked in there. |
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I refer gas but have an electric.
There was talk of the UK turning to Hydrogen gas rather than rely on natural gas. Has anyone else heard about this and know whats happening? |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
That doesn't make sense.......
Not to me anyway ....
Unless you wish outages on me .....
I do not wish outages on you Granny.
A politician told us we would not be having planned outages or rationing this winter. I suspect that means we will. Hence my advice to go for gas, you can light that with a match. "
Unless there's no mains gas........
Some have no choice. Amazing that we still keep getting offered dual fuel discounts by our supplier.....
They're not the smartest. 
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
That doesn't make sense.......
Not to me anyway ....
Unless you wish outages on me .....
I do not wish outages on you Granny.
A politician told us we would not be having planned outages or rationing this winter. I suspect that means we will. Hence my advice to go for gas, you can light that with a match. "
Ahhhhhhhhhh Gotcha! Think i'd better stockpile wood |
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"I refer gas but have an electric.
There was talk of the UK turning to Hydrogen gas rather than rely on natural gas. Has anyone else heard about this and know whats happening?"
I heard it when the engineer was putting my new boiler and system in .........
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo he said. We are changing to hydrogen.
Then I heard it on the radio only last week ....
But no one knows where , what , why or when |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
Terra Firma |
I've just had an inductive cooker top and it is brilliant.
It gets hot instantly, cooks consistently and fast. I would certainly recommend it over the gas rings I had previously. The only downside was a couple of pans didn't work on it.
electric split oven, one smaller oven and one larger oven. Using the smaller oven mostly and again it is super fast at heating up.
I might need a BBQ this winter |
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas."
That depends if you gas is a new or old system if it’s new 90s on then it runs on electricity regardless as the gas’s pump and stuff all runs off electricity |
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
That depends if you gas is a new or old system if it’s new 90s on then it runs on electricity regardless as the gas’s pump and stuff all runs off electricity "
Cooker will still work I assume? |
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
That depends if you gas is a new or old system if it’s new 90s on then it runs on electricity regardless as the gas’s pump and stuff all runs off electricity
Cooker will still work I assume? "
Depends if it’s a new system or old
Older system don’t use electricity to help gas flow
If it’s newer then it use electric pumps and stuff to push gas though the pipes
Effectively lowering the amount off gas need in the system as it’s not useing pressure to pump gas though
If it’s a newer system when the electric gose out so dose the gas as the pumps run on electricity |
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By *hiversMan
over a year ago
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"I've just had an inductive cooker top and it is brilliant.
It gets hot instantly, cooks consistently and fast. I would certainly recommend it over the gas rings I had previously. The only downside was a couple of pans didn't work on it.
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Seconded. Took a while to get used to some of the quirks of induction, but wouldnt go back to gas now. |
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I love gas cookers as it’s instant.
What I have been doing though is food prepping big batches of stuff, in my slow cooker, sticking some in Chinese takeaway dishes, then defrosting and zapping in the microwave and just cooking veg, rice etc on the stove. |
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"It took me far too long to realise you meant appliances 
I was trying to figure out how you were going to get gas powered apps on your phone  "
Thank you for putting that. I couldn't work it out at all. I thought apps might be a spelling mistake that everyone was too polite to mention |
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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago
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"It took me far too long to realise you meant appliances
I was trying to figure out how you were going to get gas powered apps on your phone
Thank you for putting that. I couldn't work it out at all. I thought apps might be a spelling mistake that everyone was too polite to mention "
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We will be sticking with gas for everything.
Induction hobs are apparently just as expensive to run as electric (requires electric supply to work). It was on a comparison thingy on Money Saving Expert, if I recall correctly.
You can always light the gas with a match if the leccy goes off, make tea etc. Hopefully they won't turn off the gas! |
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By *ndy58Man
over a year ago
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Surely the sensible option is to cover all the bases by having both: gas hob and electric oven. Then if one goes out you'll still have the other one (unless of course the gas requires electricity to pump it as described in a previous post). And as a backup a camping stove powered by bottled gas or a liquid fuel. |
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"Surely the sensible option is to cover all the bases by having both: gas hob and electric oven. Then if one goes out you'll still have the other one (unless of course the gas requires electricity to pump it as described in a previous post). And as a backup a camping stove powered by bottled gas or a liquid fuel."
Our gas supply has not been affected by electricity outages before BUT of course, I don't think we've ever had it turned off "at source" before! If gas need leccy to pump it through and the leccy is off, your electric oven won't work either, so you're just as snookered. Gas is cheaper and quicker than electric for cooking. |
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas."
I can't have gas.
Given that politician said there won't be outages, I'm getting a small stockpile of canned food and ordered a hand crank torch |
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In event of power cuts this winter I shall use my little camping stove as my little doggy will go on strike if she can’t have her chicken cooked.
They are a small book size, one hob and you slot in a canister of gas (about the size of aerosol air freshener can)  |
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"Gas. We are NOT having power outages or rationing of electricity this winter. So gas.
I can't have gas.
Given that politician said there won't be outages, I'm getting a small stockpile of canned food and ordered a hand crank torch "
I'm considering emigrating. Have you considered it, Swing? |
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"I know what to do when things are not up in the air but they ARE up in the air.
Earlier this year I had a full central heating system put in and a new boiler. What a fuffin waste.
Now I want a new kitchen and every time I think of getting a new cooker I think ........ wtf for. ??
Shall I get leccy or gas ??
I know this place is for anything except sex so don't say you will stick your bits in it or anything like that ?
Gas or leccy ?"
Electric fan assisted oven and a gas hob would be our preference. 
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There have been a few posts here concerning the possibility of using hydrogen on a large scale for our future energy needs.
In principle it is a great idea-an unlimited source (water) and no pollutants (water being the only product of combustion), whilst distribution could use the existing gas grid with some modifications. The main expense might be the need for boiler replacement or modification. Whilst modern boilers have been designed to allow the burning of methane mixed with a certain percentage of hydrogen, they could not burn 100% hydrogen.
Unfortunately the principle cannot not yet be met in practice.
'Green' hydrogen is produced by the electrolysis of water. Unfortunately the amount of electricity from sustainable sources needed to do this on a large scale make this untenable, at least for the foreseeable future.
An alternative is 'grey' hydrogen, which is produced from-you guessed it-methane-i.e. natural gas. Unfortunately this process produces more carbon dioxide than simply burning methane! To follow this route in a sustainable fashion, the carbon dioxide needs to be sequestered. This can be done by pumping it into exhausted gas reservoirs. However although this is already being done in various parts of the world, it is not a trivial process. On a national or supra-national scale, this process is ultimately limited by the volume of pore space in exhausted reservoirs into which the carbon dioxide can be pumped.
There is a pilot grey hydrogen project in the early stages of development in NW England and North Wales (Hynet). The carbon dioxide will be sequestered in old gas fields in Liverpool Bay and it is possible that if this works there may be other areas where it could be applied. It is however unlikely to be a national solution in anything except the most distant of futures.
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Fingers crossed for a windy winter, we can hit over 60% of our electricity generation needs from wind with the right weather.
Whoever mentioned hydrogen above, if it is going to happen it won't be anytime soon. It takes roughly 30% more energy to make hydrogen with present day tech than you get back from burning it. Given the cost of energy at the moment throwing 30% away to create a gas that can't be stored or transported using our existing infrastructure seems utterly pointless. It will only become a viable green alternative when we have excess renewable electricity generation. Then it's relative ease of storage/transport will make it a suitable energy store for applications where battery storage won't work - maybe things like plant, shipping and aircraft. By the time we have excess renewable electricity, home heating will probably be electric using ground source or air source heating. Modern electric cars use air source already as it is far more efficient than electric heating elements.
None of which helps Granny with her new appliance choice. Gas is cheaper than electric so there's that, other than that I'd suggest getting what you prefer/are used too.
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"There have been a few posts here concerning the possibility of using hydrogen on a large scale for our future energy needs.
In principle it is a great idea-an unlimited source (water) and no pollutants (water being the only product of combustion), whilst distribution could use the existing gas grid with some modifications. The main expense might be the need for boiler replacement or modification. Whilst modern boilers have been designed to allow the burning of methane mixed with a certain percentage of hydrogen, they could not burn 100% hydrogen.
Unfortunately the principle cannot not yet be met in practice.
'Green' hydrogen is produced by the electrolysis of water. Unfortunately the amount of electricity from sustainable sources needed to do this on a large scale make this untenable, at least for the foreseeable future.
An alternative is 'grey' hydrogen, which is produced from-you guessed it-methane-i.e. natural gas. Unfortunately this process produces more carbon dioxide than simply burning methane! To follow this route in a sustainable fashion, the carbon dioxide needs to be sequestered. This can be done by pumping it into exhausted gas reservoirs. However although this is already being done in various parts of the world, it is not a trivial process. On a national or supra-national scale, this process is ultimately limited by the volume of pore space in exhausted reservoirs into which the carbon dioxide can be pumped.
There is a pilot grey hydrogen project in the early stages of development in NW England and North Wales (Hynet). The carbon dioxide will be sequestered in old gas fields in Liverpool Bay and it is possible that if this works there may be other areas where it could be applied. It is however unlikely to be a national solution in anything except the most distant of futures.
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Great minds
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"There have been a few posts here concerning the possibility of using hydrogen on a large scale for our future energy needs.
In principle it is a great idea-an unlimited source (water) and no pollutants (water being the only product of combustion), whilst distribution could use the existing gas grid with some modifications. The main expense might be the need for boiler replacement or modification. Whilst modern boilers have been designed to allow the burning of methane mixed with a certain percentage of hydrogen, they could not burn 100% hydrogen.
Unfortunately the principle cannot not yet be met in practice.
'Green' hydrogen is produced by the electrolysis of water. Unfortunately the amount of electricity from sustainable sources needed to do this on a large scale make this untenable, at least for the foreseeable future.
An alternative is 'grey' hydrogen, which is produced from-you guessed it-methane-i.e. natural gas. Unfortunately this process produces more carbon dioxide than simply burning methane! To follow this route in a sustainable fashion, the carbon dioxide needs to be sequestered. This can be done by pumping it into exhausted gas reservoirs. However although this is already being done in various parts of the world, it is not a trivial process. On a national or supra-national scale, this process is ultimately limited by the volume of pore space in exhausted reservoirs into which the carbon dioxide can be pumped.
There is a pilot grey hydrogen project in the early stages of development in NW England and North Wales (Hynet). The carbon dioxide will be sequestered in old gas fields in Liverpool Bay and it is possible that if this works there may be other areas where it could be applied. It is however unlikely to be a national solution in anything except the most distant of futures.
Great minds
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Ha Ha Ha! Obviously two households where the most excitement that can be had on a Saturday night is to be an energy need! |
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"Go for the electric and get a rowdy hamster too.
If we get electric outages connect the hamster wheel to the mains and feed it some red bull to run the wheel quicker to power the cooker "
Jesus, how big is your hamster |
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"Go for the electric and get a rowdy hamster too.
If we get electric outages connect the hamster wheel to the mains and feed it some red bull to run the wheel quicker to power the cooker
Jesus, how big is your hamster "
Obviously big enough to eat in an emergency?
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"Go for the electric and get a rowdy hamster too.
If we get electric outages connect the hamster wheel to the mains and feed it some red bull to run the wheel quicker to power the cooker "
You're going to need a bigger hamster. |
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However, said issues put aside, I’d have a gas hob and a leccy oven