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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " I’ve never heard or read so much truth by a make on fab. I’ve been there,I remember those customers who never bothered to offer very well. I liked those that set upa brewing station, I send them Xmas cards still.  | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " My builder's used to get numerous cup's of tea, sandwiches, crisps and biscuits, though they done a marvelous job.  | |||
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"I show 'em the kettle and the biscuits and tell 'em to help themselves "That's my favourite type of customer | |||
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"I show 'em the kettle and the biscuits and tell 'em to help themselves
That's my favourite type of customer "Always offer them lunch as well if they are around at that time, not many refuse the offer of bacon, sausage and egg | |||
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"I show 'em the kettle and the biscuits and tell 'em to help themselves
That's my favourite type of customer
Always offer them lunch as well if they are around at that time, not many refuse the offer of bacon, sausage and egg "If you need any work done at home, you know where I am | |||
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"So if you're an ugly housewife or it's the husband in the house they don't have to offer you a drink? "  obviously not!
Also it's very much appreciated if you wear a robe that slips open and leave your used thong on the bathroom floor.
I take a flask and a small pack of such items out with me now. Those guys working on the roads get lonely and feel under appreciated you know | |||
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"If you want tradesmen to go the extra mile, get them tea You’d be surprised how easily pleased we are. Couple cups of tea and a bacon sandwich will get you far " I don’t require tradesmen to go the extra mile, I just require them to do the job they are contracted to do , people should not need an incentive to do their job properly. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot" Honestly I think that's quite shocking. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Honestly I think that's quite shocking. " Why | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot" One of us always makes any tradesman a cup of tea. Neither of us are housewives though is that ok or does it mean we get poor quality work? | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " It's easy, just ask the alphabet question. What comes after Q (their reply) What comes after R (their reply) What comes after S They'll reply with T, to which I've always said, brilliant I'll have mine with milk but no sugar. Not had a knock back yet (I'm a plumber) | |||
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"If you want tradesmen to go the extra mile, get them tea You’d be surprised how easily pleased we are. Couple cups of tea and a bacon sandwich will get you far " I get offered extras occasionally by clients. It's nice when it happens but it doesn't determine the effort I put in to a job or whether I'll go above and beyond their expectations. If 'going the extra mile' was based on a cuppa I'd be worried about my work ethic. 
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"I show 'em the kettle and the biscuits and tell 'em to help themselves
That's my favourite type of customer
Always offer them lunch as well if they are around at that time, not many refuse the offer of bacon, sausage and egg
If you need any work done at home, you know where I am " | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot" How do you work out that someone who doesn't spend their day making you a cup of tea is tight ? Are you doing their work for free ? NO Have you failed to provide for yourself YES Do you expect others to provide for you just because you are you ? YES When I make a contract with a builder to pay them the going rate for a job well done I don't expect them to think I am here to skivvy all day and provide cups of tea. | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " Years and years ago now I used to repair cctv cameras, the best places to work were the massage parlours. Absolutely nothing to do with scantily clad ladies or being offered to be paid in kind for additional works. It was because they were the only places you could be 100% guaranteed you would be greeted with hiya thanks for coming tea or coffee?. | |||
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"If you want tradesmen to go the extra mile, get them tea You’d be surprised how easily pleased we are. Couple cups of tea and a bacon sandwich will get you far I don’t require tradesmen to go the extra mile, I just require them to do the job they are contracted to do , people should not need an incentive to do their job properly. " If going the extra mile means doing your job correctly, I’m worried for you Someone that brings me tea and a sandwich gets the extra mile in that I might pop back for a small job they need doing for free, or doing something extra on the job just as a Thankyou | |||
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"I find sucking there dicks is a good incentive " Works for me | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Honestly I think that's quite shocking. Why" I can't think of anyone else that would say I won't go the extra mile unless you do something for me even though you are already being paid for your job. Take a flask in a pack lunch like everyone else does. If you are offered a cup of tea that's fine but I'm not likeing the insinuation that somebody who doesn't is gonna get a substantial job. Not saying you've said that but it has been implied by others. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot One of us always makes any tradesman a cup of tea. Neither of us are housewives though is that ok or does it mean we get poor quality work?" No one ever got poor quality work. As I said I always worked to a standard as a professional but we're talking going the extra mile. For example I installed stoves. I had no obligation to remove manufacturer packaging or say move customers furniture back if we had to take the carpet back. That was the customers job but if we'd been looked after then we'd just do it ourselves. It's like anything in life...if someone's kind to you your more likely to be kind back. Oh and BTW it doesn't make a difference if you're a housewife or the hubby or if the cat makes a brew. Or even if you just leave the brewing tackle out for us to help ourselves. We appreciate it either way | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Honestly I think that's quite shocking. Why I can't think of anyone else that would say I won't go the extra mile unless you do something for me even though you are already being paid for your job. Take a flask in a pack lunch like everyone else does. If you are offered a cup of tea that's fine but I'm not likeing the insinuation that somebody who doesn't is gonna get a substantial job. Not saying you've said that but it has been implied by others." Do you understand the concept of the term 'extra mile'? I'm still doing the job I'm paid for regardless | |||
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"If you want tradesmen to go the extra mile, get them tea You’d be surprised how easily pleased we are. Couple cups of tea and a bacon sandwich will get you far " Anyone expecting a customer to provide bacon sandwiches ...... especially now .... isn't being fair or moral or decent. Just grasping, greedy , entitled and judgemental | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Honestly I think that's quite shocking. Why I can't think of anyone else that would say I won't go the extra mile unless you do something for me even though you are already being paid for your job. Take a flask in a pack lunch like everyone else does. If you are offered a cup of tea that's fine but I'm not likeing the insinuation that somebody who doesn't is gonna get a substantial job. Not saying you've said that but it has been implied by others. Do you understand the concept of the term 'extra mile'? I'm still doing the job I'm paid for regardless " You clearly haven't read what I have written properly. It comes to something when someone will only help someone out if they are given something. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot One of us always makes any tradesman a cup of tea. Neither of us are housewives though is that ok or does it mean we get poor quality work? No one ever got poor quality work. As I said I always worked to a standard as a professional but we're talking going the extra mile. For example I installed stoves. I had no obligation to remove manufacturer packaging or say move customers furniture back if we had to take the carpet back. That was the customers job but if we'd been looked after then we'd just do it ourselves. It's like anything in life...if someone's kind to you your more likely to be kind back. Oh and BTW it doesn't make a difference if you're a housewife or the hubby or if the cat makes a brew. Or even if you just leave the brewing tackle out for us to help ourselves. We appreciate it either way " You’ll probably also agree here. If I’ve worked for someone before and they were great to work for, I’m gonna be happy to work again, and even give them the cheaper end of the price If I turn up to a job and get treated like a paid for sl@ve, next job I’m putting my rates up. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot One of us always makes any tradesman a cup of tea. Neither of us are housewives though is that ok or does it mean we get poor quality work? No one ever got poor quality work. As I said I always worked to a standard as a professional but we're talking going the extra mile. For example I installed stoves. I had no obligation to remove manufacturer packaging or say move customers furniture back if we had to take the carpet back. That was the customers job but if we'd been looked after then we'd just do it ourselves. It's like anything in life...if someone's kind to you your more likely to be kind back. Oh and BTW it doesn't make a difference if you're a housewife or the hubby or if the cat makes a brew. Or even if you just leave the brewing tackle out for us to help ourselves. We appreciate it either way " Good! If you can get my cat to make you a cup of tea when I can't even get it to move from my chair you have a talent | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? " If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. | |||
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"If you want tradesmen to go the extra mile, get them tea You’d be surprised how easily pleased we are. Couple cups of tea and a bacon sandwich will get you far I don’t require tradesmen to go the extra mile, I just require them to do the job they are contracted to do , people should not need an incentive to do their job properly. If going the extra mile means doing your job correctly, I’m worried for you Someone that brings me tea and a sandwich gets the extra mile in that I might pop back for a small job they need doing for free, or doing something extra on the job just as a Thankyou " | |||
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me "My thinking is its lovely to offer or be offered but it shouldn't be expected. Some of the comments on this post suggest very much it is expected. | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. " Exactly. I don't want to be manipulated into doing something for someone, they need to own it and be direct. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words " 'own home' ....... You might be working there temporarily ..... the customer has other things to do ffs....... Customers are not your employers You are not their employee Jesus ...... this gets thicker n thicker | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words " I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical Tourette's and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. Exactly. I don't want to be manipulated into doing something for someone, they need to own it and be direct." What is I stick out my tongue, gasp and make rasping noises while I belly crawl along the floor dragging a mug and pointing at my open mouth ? | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. Exactly. I don't want to be manipulated into doing something for someone, they need to own it and be direct. What is I stick out my tongue, gasp and make rasping noises while I belly crawl along the floor dragging a mug and pointing at my open mouth ?" I'll empty the contents of the hoover bag into your mouth while your eyes are closed. | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. Exactly. I don't want to be manipulated into doing something for someone, they need to own it and be direct. What is I stick out my tongue, gasp and make rasping noises while I belly crawl along the floor dragging a mug and pointing at my open mouth ?" If somebody is doing that in your house I suggest phoning an ambulance at the 1st available opportunity. | |||
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and if you are going to make toast try and not get crumbs on the worktop or in the lurpak | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. " That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it | |||
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"Do what I do op smith the kettle on and make it yourself and if you are going to make toast try and not get crumbs on the worktop or in the lurpak "switch | |||
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"If you want a cuppa just ask! That's what I do. Or I take my own flask. Why all the dropping hints theatrics? If somebody drops hints I would deliberately don't offer them anything as I think that's actually quite rude. Exactly. I don't want to be manipulated into doing something for someone, they need to own it and be direct. What is I stick out my tongue, gasp and make rasping noises while I belly crawl along the floor dragging a mug and pointing at my open mouth ? If somebody is doing that in your house I suggest phoning an ambulance at the 1st available opportunity. " Your reaction is so caring and sensible | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it " It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice'" Do you work for free? | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice'" I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot | |||
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me "Exactly this. I offer hot drinks and lunch not because I want a good job doing but because I feel it's manners, I like it and I am naturally a feeder, I was raised to be hospitable
I've made lunch for the workmen to take away before now knowing that they don't get time in between jobs and travelling, If I'm labelled a softy then so be it
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' Do you work for free? " Who is asking you to work for free? | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot "Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas! | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' Do you work for free? Who is asking you to work for free? " You're arguing we should go the extra mile without getting something in return So I'll ask again. Do you work for free | |||
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me
Exactly this. I offer hot drinks and lunch not because I want a good job doing but because I feel it's manners, I like it and I am naturally a feeder, I was raised to be hospitable
I've made lunch for the workmen to take away before now knowing that they don't get time in between jobs and travelling, If I'm labelled a softy then so be it
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' Do you work for free? Who is asking you to work for free? You're arguing we should go the extra mile without getting something in return So I'll ask again. Do you work for free " As said above you clearly didn't read what I said properly because at no point have I said you should go the extra mile. And yes I do work for free. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas! "You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice. Those that don’t. Dont | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot "What do you mean by it's my foot ? That's a threat in as much as you are saying to customers...... Do me free drinks and a bacon sandwich and I'll do a decent job .... BTW ........ it's NOT my foot... I agree the price and expectations of each other with builders before they start. No where on this thread have I said I don't offer tea. What I don't get is where the sense of entitlement comes from at least TWO on this thread. You actually keep saying things like ....... Those who don't make brews are tight ..... Do me a brew and I'll be nice..... it's an unbelievably bad look. I just thank God there are decent business people out there. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont "So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ? Or do you knock it off the price of the work ? | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
"The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you 11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you
11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job
I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want "This is how interpreted it. And I don’t blame you. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont "Tell the ne'er do wells who fitted our front door and bathroom window that! If it was tea and biscuits that determined the quality of their work I dread to think what it would have been like if we'd given them nothing. Or was it because it was only biscuits and not a sandwich that they were a day late, left us with half the job done poorly for two days and failed to clean up after themselves. To be honest I wouldn't call on them for advice free or not and I'd certainly never give them any more work. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
Tell the ne'er do wells who fitted our front door and bathroom window that! If it was tea and biscuits that determined the quality of their work I dread to think what it would have been like if we'd given them nothing. Or was it because it was only biscuits and not a sandwich that they were a day late, left us with half the job done poorly for two days and failed to clean up after themselves. To be honest I wouldn't call on them for advice free or not and I'd certainly never give them any more work.
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you
11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job
I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want
This is how interpreted it. And I don’t blame you. "I know what's being said Nora. It's as plain as day no matter how much it's dressed up. If this was common knowledge we'd have people going to lengths and expense on a non existent promise to 'maybe' be looked after in the future. I know Bullshit when I smell it. Just do the job you are paid for the price you asked for - simple. | |||
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"There are only a few saying they offer nothing. It's the attitude towards people who don't offer food and drink that's surprising me. I offer drinks and sometimes biscuits but I don't expect the service I'm given to be any different. "I completely agree and it's the assumption that somehow that person is a bad person. My mother in law won't offer anybody a drink in her house that she doesn't know and the reason being is she's terrified of covid. There are lots of reasons people don't offer extras and it should be expected. | |||
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"I don't go in to work and look expectantly at my boss at lunchtime or any time. I'm a capable adult that plans ahead to cater to my own needs. If a customer came bearing gifts I'd be wary and waiting for them to ask me to break or bend regulations for them at some point so politely decline (gifts here are not allowed or encouraged and must be reported depending on value). Manners apply everywhere both as customer and service provider, being obnoxious alienates folk. I'd never want or expect something for nothing, these things always have strings and expectations attached. But basic human decency is a low bar to reach really. Offering the use of a bathroom, making sure they have access to what's needed or a cuppa? 100% Expecting or judging based on whether they provide a full lunch? That's a bit cheeky and not a tradesman I'd hire back." Precisely. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
Tell the ne'er do wells who fitted our front door and bathroom window that! If it was tea and biscuits that determined the quality of their work I dread to think what it would have been like if we'd given them nothing. Or was it because it was only biscuits and not a sandwich that they were a day late, left us with half the job done poorly for two days and failed to clean up after themselves. To be honest I wouldn't call on them for advice free or not and I'd certainly never give them any more work.
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Found exactly the same for the brief period I worked in a trade, a small gesture can go a long way. " It's the comment about you will get a poorer service if you don't provide me a drink or food that sticks in the throat. | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you
11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job
I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want
This is how interpreted it. And I don’t blame you.
I know what's being said Nora. It's as plain as day no matter how much it's dressed up.
If this was common knowledge we'd have people going to lengths and expense on a non existent promise to 'maybe' be looked after in the future.
I know Bullshit when I smell it.
Just do the job you are paid for the price you asked for - simple. "Who's said they weren't going to do the job they were paid for? What don't you understand about the word extra? | |||
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you
11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job
I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want
This is how interpreted it. And I don’t blame you.
I know what's being said Nora. It's as plain as day no matter how much it's dressed up.
If this was common knowledge we'd have people going to lengths and expense on a non existent promise to 'maybe' be looked after in the future.
I know Bullshit when I smell it.
Just do the job you are paid for the price you asked for - simple.
Who's said they weren't going to do the job they were paid for?
What don't you understand about the word extra?
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ..."
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"Interesting thread though. I love the idea that normal people have become like mini corporations where you try to extract as much as possible from your employee while giving them the hard minimum back If you can’t make a hot drink for a tradesman working in your home, I’m lost for words I will give you an example of when this can be really difficult. My niece has severe physical threats and a plumber came to the house while my sister was out as she couldn't get back from work in time. The Plumber asked my niece who is an adult to make him a cup of tea and when she said she couldn't as she wasn't safe to use the kettle he said "oh you are one of those are you" My niece wasn't sure what it meant but she felt very uncomfortable as she had to stay in the house with him. I think the best attitude to have is don't expect anything because you don't know people's situations there could be a very valid reason why somebody hasn't offered you a drink. You may think everyone is capable of making a cup of tea but actually some are not It's not always obvious as to why. That’s extremely specific so doesn’t really apply Fact is, if you have a tradesman working for you, and maybe you say “ on there’s this little thing in the garden, could you maybe take a look?” A cup of tea could be the difference between me taking a look and giving you a quote, vs me looking and saying “ don’t worry I’ll sort that” It’s nice to be nice. And being nice often gets you nice back. You all do what you want, tradesmen have been like this for decades and they aren’t changing. It’s your foot. Feel free to shoot it It's quite hilarious that you see your attitude/way of thinking as ..... 'nice' I think getting a cup of tea is nice, and being nice back is doing something for free It’s pointless discussing though, it’s obvious where people stand and I doubt anything will change thaf. It’s your foot
Unusually I agree with you! If someone did something like that for me I’d go the extra mile too. And I wouldn’t dream of having people working in my house and not offering them a few cuppas!
You’ll get treated like gold then. Us tradesmen are simple men, with simple minds. Cuppa and a sandwich, you’ll have a reliable, fairly priced, on call tradesman for life. The type of guy you could call for an emergency call out, or just for some free advice.
Those that don’t. Dont
So even in times of austerity, ' Like this cost of living crisis' you expect someone who is paying the going rate to provide your meals too ?
Or do you knock it off the price of the work ?
The provided niceties are knocked off in that you’ll be offered services others wouldn’t because I like working for you
11pm emergency? Customer I’ve worked with before who was lovely? I’ll probably skip the £100 emergency call out fee and just do the job
I know 100s of tradesmen and I’m part of the conversations we have customers don’t hear. Like I said, do what you want
This is how interpreted it. And I don’t blame you.
I know what's being said Nora. It's as plain as day no matter how much it's dressed up.
If this was common knowledge we'd have people going to lengths and expense on a non existent promise to 'maybe' be looked after in the future.
I know Bullshit when I smell it.
Just do the job you are paid for the price you asked for - simple.
Who's said they weren't going to do the job they were paid for?
What don't you understand about the word extra?
I understand the word extra.
It'd be good if you tried to understand that you can't keep asking people to defend things they haven't said.
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot Found exactly the same for the brief period I worked in a trade, a small gesture can go a long way. It's the comment about you will get a poorer service if you don't provide me a drink or food that sticks in the throat. " I can’t speak for him, but for me they always get 100%. It just depends if they want that extra 110% or not And if they don’t, like some people on here, then sure, do the job they paid for, no extras no favours. Sometimes those jobs are nice because it’s like dealing with a robot. Just get in, get out. Decent for smaller jobs. But for me, most of the time especially on longer jobs, I’d prefer a really pleasant working environment where they can feel good handing me a warm cuppa and I can feel good when I fix that extra leaky tap or whatever for free because I like them. Its all up to you. Anyone saying they’d offer less than 100% because of it is a bad tradesmen and probably cutting corners too. I’ve had plenty of jobs where I do a little extra for free because they’re nice. And I’ve had plenty where I don’t. Just do it and leave And I’ve had a few jobs where the people were awful and their number gets put in the group chat as “avoid” It’s whatever you want | |||
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"I go to work at peoples homes to do work, not stand around drinking tea or coffee. " you can still work whilst having a cuppa it’s not rocket science | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! It's easy, just ask the alphabet question. What comes after Q (their reply) What comes after R (their reply) What comes after S They'll reply with T, to which I've always said, brilliant I'll have mine with milk but no sugar. Not had a knock back yet (I'm a plumber)" My boss says what's the 26th letter of the alphabet? He's only got me once now I point at kettle and say you know what to do bitch pmsl | |||
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ..." I don't think this is fair really. If our bosses are sound and look after us, all of us, tradies or not are likely to be more productive. Its just how we're wired. It's no different if you're in an office, retail or someone's house. I currently work in a corporate environment and they're big on wellbeing. They know looking after the staff is in their best interests. If someone does a bad job because they didn't get a brew then I absolutely agree that would be a dick move. You have to have good standards for your own reputation anyway. Especially if you're a one man band | |||
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"If they’re hot I’ll make the tea after we do the deed.
See ..... proper swingers. Face pics first, fuck second, cuppa later. "Also, swingers sure do love to argue on forums. Over a cup of tea no less. | |||
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ... I don't think this is fair really. If our bosses are sound and look after us, all of us, tradies or not are likely to be more productive. Its just how we're wired. It's no different if you're in an office, retail or someone's house. I currently work in a corporate environment and they're big on wellbeing. They know looking after the staff is in their best interests. If someone does a bad job because they didn't get a brew then I absolutely agree that would be a dick move. You have to have good standards for your own reputation anyway. Especially if you're a one man band " Exactly....I am a manager in my job and if I didn't make my staff feel valued and treated them with contempt then they would be less motivated working at at a substandard. I want the best out of them so I have ways, means and techniques to do that. Luckily my staff are amazing because I treat them that way. | |||
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"If they’re hot I’ll make the tea after we do the deed.
See ..... proper swingers. Face pics first, fuck second, cuppa later.
Also, swingers sure do love to argue on forums. Over a cup of tea no less. "Never seen a thread fill up so much ....... we'll all need a brew at this rate. I'm lucky I know good builders. | |||
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ... I don't think this is fair really. If our bosses are sound and look after us, all of us, tradies or not are likely to be more productive. Its just how we're wired. It's no different if you're in an office, retail or someone's house. I currently work in a corporate environment and they're big on wellbeing. They know looking after the staff is in their best interests. If someone does a bad job because they didn't get a brew then I absolutely agree that would be a dick move. You have to have good standards for your own reputation anyway. Especially if you're a one man band Exactly....I am a manager in my job and if I didn't make my staff feel valued and treated them with contempt then they would be less motivated working at at a substandard. I want the best out of them so I have ways, means and techniques to do that. Luckily my staff are amazing because I treat them that way. " Nobody is suggesting as far as I can see people shouldn't be treated well but you don't have to offer people extras to make them feel valued or that they are being treated with respect. | |||
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ... I don't think this is fair really. If our bosses are sound and look after us, all of us, tradies or not are likely to be more productive. Its just how we're wired. It's no different if you're in an office, retail or someone's house. I currently work in a corporate environment and they're big on wellbeing. They know looking after the staff is in their best interests. If someone does a bad job because they didn't get a brew then I absolutely agree that would be a dick move. You have to have good standards for your own reputation anyway. Especially if you're a one man band " I get the psychology. And bosses are semi open about it. But with tradies, I'm the customer. It's slightly odder imo for the business to ask customers to throw in perks because they may repay teh favour. | |||
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"To the tradies: how many people don't give you tea? I'd always thought most did, which means you must be giving freebies left right and centre. Is that true ? For the record: I'd give out cuppas just because (if I'm honest) I feel obliged to look after ppl in my house. And coz its a small thing that can make a big difference. While I get the psychology of we do extra things for people we like... It's one of those thi GS that starts to look a tad manipulative when written down ... I don't think this is fair really. If our bosses are sound and look after us, all of us, tradies or not are likely to be more productive. Its just how we're wired. It's no different if you're in an office, retail or someone's house. I currently work in a corporate environment and they're big on wellbeing. They know looking after the staff is in their best interests. If someone does a bad job because they didn't get a brew then I absolutely agree that would be a dick move. You have to have good standards for your own reputation anyway. Especially if you're a one man band Exactly....I am a manager in my job and if I didn't make my staff feel valued and treated them with contempt then they would be less motivated working at at a substandard. I want the best out of them so I have ways, means and techniques to do that. Luckily my staff are amazing because I treat them that way. Nobody is suggesting as far as I can see people shouldn't be treated well but you don't have to offer people extras to make them feel valued or that they are being treated with respect. " I know that
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me
Exactly this. I offer hot drinks and lunch not because I want a good job doing but because I feel it's manners, I like it and I am naturally a feeder, I was raised to be hospitable
I've made lunch for the workmen to take away before now knowing that they don't get time in between jobs and travelling, If I'm labelled a softy then so be it
"Nail on the head. Good manners! It's simply hospitable to offer someone who comes into your home a drink. If people choose to be rude and not offer hospitality thats their choice. Speaking personally when I was a child back in the 70's it would be unheard of not to offer a visitor (tradesman or otherwise)a drink. It seems from the general tone of the thread that quite a few people nowadays feel they shouldn't or don't want to offer hospitality to tradesman. I feel we seem to have gained something useless ie:- mannerless entitled people. And lost something important ie:- Good manners and a sense of hospitality. | |||
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me
Exactly this. I offer hot drinks and lunch not because I want a good job doing but because I feel it's manners, I like it and I am naturally a feeder, I was raised to be hospitable
I've made lunch for the workmen to take away before now knowing that they don't get time in between jobs and travelling, If I'm labelled a softy then so be it
Nail on the head. Good manners! It's simply hospitable to offer someone who comes into your home a drink. If people choose to be rude and not offer hospitality thats their choice. Speaking personally when I was a child back in the 70's it would be unheard of not to offer a visitor (tradesman or otherwise)a drink. It seems from the general tone of the thread that quite a few people nowadays feel they shouldn't or don't want to offer hospitality to tradesman. I feel we seem to have gained something useless ie:- mannerless entitled people. And lost something important ie:- Good manners and a sense of hospitality. "I'm not hosting anyone, I'm paying them to do a job. Bring your own bloody tea! | |||
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"I think it's basic manners to offer anyone who comes in my house a brew... I once saw 3 workmen outside my house working on the lights,they had been there since around 8am and after dropping my daughter at school,asked them if they wanted a brew,to which I made and offered toast or some breakfast... to which they said no,so I took a couple of packs of biscuits out to them with their brews.. it was freezing and had been non stop working.. made them smile and me
Exactly this. I offer hot drinks and lunch not because I want a good job doing but because I feel it's manners, I like it and I am naturally a feeder, I was raised to be hospitable
I've made lunch for the workmen to take away before now knowing that they don't get time in between jobs and travelling, If I'm labelled a softy then so be it
Nail on the head. Good manners! It's simply hospitable to offer someone who comes into your home a drink. If people choose to be rude and not offer hospitality thats their choice. Speaking personally when I was a child back in the 70's it would be unheard of not to offer a visitor (tradesman or otherwise)a drink. It seems from the general tone of the thread that quite a few people nowadays feel they shouldn't or don't want to offer hospitality to tradesman. I feel we seem to have gained something useless ie:- mannerless entitled people. And lost something important ie:- Good manners and a sense of hospitality. "I offer anyone who comes to my home a drink at the very least. This does not make me RUDE if I choose not to. I do not have to be hospitable to people who have come to do a job and get paid for it. I do offer them drinks but there is no written rule that says it's manners to do so and that I am lacking in manners if I don't. They are at WORK. I am at HOME. I am a CUSTOMER. Not their employer. | |||
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"Everyone loving it that they don't make the tradie a brew ...can guarantee you g et poorer service because of it. When I was in trade I'd always work to a standard, regardless but I'd go the extra mile for those that were kind. And this was common among tradies. By all means be cocky about being a tight fkr but you're only shooting yourself in the foot One of us always makes any tradesman a cup of tea. Neither of us are housewives though is that ok or does it mean we get poor quality work? No one ever got poor quality work. As I said I always worked to a standard as a professional but we're talking going the extra mile. For example I installed stoves. I had no obligation to remove manufacturer packaging or say move customers furniture back if we had to take the carpet back. That was the customers job but if we'd been looked after then we'd just do it ourselves. It's like anything in life...if someone's kind to you your more likely to be kind back. Oh and BTW it doesn't make a difference if you're a housewife or the hubby or if the cat makes a brew. Or even if you just leave the brewing tackle out for us to help ourselves. We appreciate it either way You’ll probably also agree here. If I’ve worked for someone before and they were great to work for, I’m gonna be happy to work again, and even give them the cheaper end of the price If I turn up to a job and get treated like a paid for sl@ve, next job I’m putting my rates up." So you equate being expected to provide your own lunch and flask of tea , as being treated like a paid s l a v e. You seem to have a bizarre attitude to work. Just-: Turn up and assess the job properly. Provide a quote based on that assessment. Carry out the work to a professional standard. What you should expect-: Not to have your expertise constantly questioned To get paid the agreed sum for agreed work, promptly and in full. | |||
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"I think hospitable people tend to be happier in life. " I disagree. | |||
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"I think hospitable people tend to be happier in life. I disagree. " Good for you | |||
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"I feel we seem to have gained something useless ie:- mannerless entitled people. And lost something important ie:- Good manners and a sense of hospitality. " I think what you have missed here is the fact that the discussion was started because 'mannerless entitled people' in this scenario are equally the tradesmen. At the end of the day, some people are rude, some are not. Tea is not the deciding factor, your attitude is. | |||
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"I think hospitable people tend to be happier in life. I disagree. Good for you "Indeed it is 
Hospitable folk have the same challenges if not more since the have to factor in all the unhospitable folk...
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"Since covid, tradesmen have become picky and entitled, they had no work during the pandemic so now they think they can charge what they want. All people want is a fair price, turn up on time and do the job as well as possible, then you'll be paid for your skills and time, all this nonsense about tea and biscuits is rubbish, I deliver stuff, I don't expect tea biscuits or anything if I turn up and deliver on time. GET ON WITH THE JOB !!!!" maybe the prices we charge now is a reflection on how much materials have gone up and we can pick and choose as customers can pick and choose their tradesmen | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " Take a flask | |||
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"Got some pms and abuse off a lady on here for using the word "housewife" - seems im living in the 50s Apologies if I upset anyone, it was just a simple comment FFS" If you received abuse you should report it as that is not necessary. | |||
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"Got some pms and abuse off a female on here for using the word "housewife" - seems im living in the 50s Apologies if I upset anyone, it was just a simple comment FFS" FTFY
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What's the replacement I wonder or are such folk to go without a name to please the minority?
Btw I would consider myself one even though I work full time. Since I do the work, I'll claim it
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"First I've ever heard of housewife being an insult. Housewife/Househusband are titles I see and hear often
What's the replacement I wonder or are such folk to go without a name to please the minority?
Btw I would consider myself one even though I work full time. Since I do the work, I'll claim it
Housewife + mother + FT job and proud of it "Except a housewife suggests that you don't have a job other than looking after the home and family. | |||
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"Got some pms and abuse off a female on here for using the word "housewife" - seems im living in the 50s Apologies if I upset anyone, it was just a simple comment FFS FTFY
Abuse via DM isn't on. Lets keep it classy folks. "Classy ? 1. Sharing private messages in the forum is not on. 2. Someone expressing an opinion via DM is not abuse - it's just keeping something out of the forum and private. ( abuse is fast becoming a buzz word ) 3. No it wasn't me. | |||
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"I think you’d rather I drink tea than work on your house….. appropriately enough ‘Todger will cock it!’ Is the business strapline - gas test… light a match…. No bang… good to go!!! reasonable rates - all work considered… just never finished!! "Todger.... Do you have skills ? | |||
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"Got some pms and abuse off a female on here for using the word "housewife" - seems im living in the 50s Apologies if I upset anyone, it was just a simple comment FFS FTFY
Abuse via DM isn't on. Lets keep it classy folks.
Classy ? 1. Sharing private messages in the forum is not on.
2. Someone expressing an opinion via DM is not abuse - it's just keeping something out of the forum and private. ( abuse is fast becoming a buzz word )
3. No it wasn't me. "I'm taking it on good faith it was abuse. Although I do agree with your points. Other than expressing an opinion in private ... Imo, unless invited otherwise, comments should be public or kept to oneself. Or at least, if hope consent to have engage. | |||
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"Dropping hints would just make me not do it. I aren't paying some guy to stand about drinking tea showing his arse crack. Also, tea??? It's at this point I'd have been tempted to throw you off the job. " Exactly! If it’s fixed price ok but I’m reluctant to make my cleaner or gardener a cuppa, it’s £15 an hour and they are both good looking girls and so we’re prone to chatting for far to long as is. Add drinks and nothing would get done | |||
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"I’m a mobile valeter and yes I get offered drinks at 90 percent of customer houses, and yeah those that don’t offer me a drink still get a very good job but they never get the best of me, it is just polite after all but I’m nearly 50 and things were different when I was brought up " What if they don't offer you a drink until you've finished? | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. " But, but you're not a 'wif' | |||
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"I’m guessing the people who don’t offer tradesmen tea, don’t tip waitresses either? I mean they are all paid to do their job aren’t they." I only tip the apprentice at the hairdresser and I only tip waiting staff if I feel they've done a good job. I do give tradesmen cups of tea, I genuinely wasn't aware that it got me their best work and I'm a bit perplexed now. | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. But, but you're not a 'wif' "In those circumstances I think I identify as one. | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. But, but you're not a 'wif'
In those circumstances I think I identify as one. " well played sir!
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. " A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups | |||
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"Most important thing when a guy is working on your house is not is he nice or wether to flirt with him or not - its to get the kettle on. Just spent all day on a very attractive ladies house and no sign of a brew all day despite my hints Us workmen drink tea more than we work you know !!!!! " Always make sure regardless who is at home that any workers are offered a brew. Been in the position plenty of times working in the cold and wet of not being offered a hot drink | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups" If a lot of women are choosing to be offended by that perceived slight... That's a shame. | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups If a lot of women are choosing to be offended by that perceived slight... That's a shame. " Women worked very hard to have the choice to work outside the home, in any occupation they choose, especially after they were married. Women died for that cause. It's actually quite important to a lot of women | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups If a lot of women are choosing to be offended by that perceived slight... That's a shame. Women worked very hard to have the choice to work outside the home, in any occupation they choose, especially after they were married. Women died for that cause. It's actually quite important to a lot of women "This | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups If a lot of women are choosing to be offended by that perceived slight... That's a shame. Women worked very hard to have the choice to work outside the home, in any occupation they choose, especially after they were married. Women died for that cause. It's actually quite important to a lot of women "If men choose to ignore this, that's extremely unfortunate for them. | |||
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"Love the offence at the word housewife. Never realised it had been weaponised. That aside.. In my house im the housewife and whoever crosses the threshold gets offered a drink.. With no conditions attached. I'll even let them use the loo if they need to. A lot of women don't like the assumption that because they're at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, that they don't work etc. Assumptions, as they say, are the mother of all fuck ups" Do they only get offended 2pm on Tuesdays? Sorry... Couldn't help myself | |||
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