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So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure  ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Could be dirty petrol, a clogged air filter. 4 new spark plugs woukd be an easy fit. Perhaps some kind fellow or even kind female might fit new ones. The plugs are about 6 euro. Halfords might fit them for a small fee. |
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"Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic. "
It doesn't surprise me a main stealer want that amount. Maybe find a local garage who will charge you a lot less, most yhese days will have something to put in your OBD port. |
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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic. "
I would drop into the main dealer when passing and ask them if they have heard of this fault before. They are usually pretty good at helping you understand what the fault could be if they think you might book it in and especially if it is a common fault for the make of car.
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away. "
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away. "
I had similar with my Pug.
Stopped buying petrol at Morrisons, problem gone.
Shit fuel.
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By *lynJMan
over a year ago
Morden |
"Ask on goggle if your car and year has spark plugs it will tell you and maybe it may help you,fingers crossed this helps 
Do some cars not have spark plugs  "
I think diesel engines don't use spark plugs. The diesel is is ignited by the higher compression. |
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over a year ago
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There are a few issues this could be. I’d be looking at the idle control valve and throttle body to see if they’re dirty, as that can cause it. It is also possible one of your coil packs is on its way out and is causing an intermittent misfire (that would be the juddering you feel when accelerating, as the engine is only firing on three cylinders instead of four). I’m guessing you haven’t got a check engine light up on the dash? The problem isn’t happening all the time which is a pain in the hoop because guaranteed if you take it to a garage it’ll behave itself every single time.  If you can find an independent garage that specialises in Peugeot/Citroen you might find that their rates are a lot better than a main stealer. |
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over a year ago
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As others have mentioned, check the ignition coils, spark plugs etc.
Sudden drops in power will be a lack of fuel, spark or air. This shouldn't be that complicated for a half decent mechanic to track. Most of the possible causes have been covered, just a question of trouble shooting.
Also find a decent independent you trust, main dealers are never going to be good value, especially for a car way outside of full dealer service history territory. |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A"
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice? |
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over a year ago
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Could be several things.
MAF would have been my first guess.
Is the car able to run E10 fuel?
It could be a blocked/failed injector, faulty could pack, blocked PCV valve, faulty idle control valve, throttle position sensor split induction pipe and loads more.
Are any of the dash lights on? That would mean there's a fault code that can be read .
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"Could be several things.
MAF would have been my first guess.
Is the car able to run E10 fuel?
It could be a blocked/failed injector, faulty could pack, blocked PCV valve, faulty idle control valve, throttle position sensor split induction pipe and loads more.
Are any of the dash lights on? That would mean there's a fault code that can be read .
MrWho."
Well.....it's had the engine management light on for ages before this but the guy who fixed the last thing that went wrong on it said that's the APC and is coming on because some belt and not to worry too much about it |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?"
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?" 
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"Could be several things.
MAF would have been my first guess.
Is the car able to run E10 fuel?
It could be a blocked/failed injector, faulty could pack, blocked PCV valve, faulty idle control valve, throttle position sensor split induction pipe and loads more.
Are any of the dash lights on? That would mean there's a fault code that can be read .
MrWho.
Well.....it's had the engine management light on for ages before this but the guy who fixed the last thing that went wrong on it said that's the APC and is coming on because some belt and not to worry too much about it "
ALWAYS worry about the management light. Other codes could be present that you don't know about because the light was already on!
It's also an MOT fail which means if you have an accident your car is in unfit condition for the road and your insurance could be invalid. |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A"
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall. |
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By *_Mr.K_xMan
over a year ago
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MAF's are a more common fault found in diesels.
It could be the crankshaft or camshaft position sensor.. if it's 'hunting' or 'revving erratically' combined with cutting out, maybe the idle speed control valve (ICV) or otherwise known as a 'stepper motor'
Just some suggestions. Needs a diagnostic or plugging into an OBD reader at a garage |
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"Could be several things.
MAF would have been my first guess.
Is the car able to run E10 fuel?
It could be a blocked/failed injector, faulty could pack, blocked PCV valve, faulty idle control valve, throttle position sensor split induction pipe and loads more.
Are any of the dash lights on? That would mean there's a fault code that can be read .
MrWho.
Well.....it's had the engine management light on for ages before this but the guy who fixed the last thing that went wrong on it said that's the APC and is coming on because some belt and not to worry too much about it
ALWAYS worry about the management light. Other codes could be present that you don't know about because the light was already on!
It's also an MOT fail which means if you have an accident your car is in unfit condition for the road and your insurance could be invalid."
Also. The belts on your car are incredibly important and should NEVER be ignored or dismissed. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall. "
Hey - it was cheap! 
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall.
Hey - it was cheap!
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
A"
You'll still need seriously deep pockets to keep it on the road mate. |
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"Could be several things.
MAF would have been my first guess.
Is the car able to run E10 fuel?
It could be a blocked/failed injector, faulty could pack, blocked PCV valve, faulty idle control valve, throttle position sensor split induction pipe and loads more.
Are any of the dash lights on? That would mean there's a fault code that can be read .
MrWho.
Well.....it's had the engine management light on for ages before this but the guy who fixed the last thing that went wrong on it said that's the APC and is coming on because some belt and not to worry too much about it
ALWAYS worry about the management light. Other codes could be present that you don't know about because the light was already on!
It's also an MOT fail which means if you have an accident your car is in unfit condition for the road and your insurance could be invalid.
Also. The belts on your car are incredibly important and should NEVER be ignored or dismissed."
The belt is fine I think but there was something about a hydraulic sprocket....it sounded like a tractor for a while then had the belt changed and the tractor sound went away.
Will get the codes checked. Thanks for the heads up re the mot. |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall.
Hey - it was cheap!
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
A
You'll still need seriously deep pockets to keep it on the road mate."
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"MAF's are a more common fault found in diesels.
It could be the crankshaft or camshaft position sensor.. if it's 'hunting' or 'revving erratically' combined with cutting out, maybe the idle speed control valve (ICV) or otherwise known as a 'stepper motor'
Just some suggestions. Needs a diagnostic or plugging into an OBD reader at a garage"
Ah ok! Will check that out. |
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My Golf mk4 1.6 petrol did the cutting out changing down thing, took ages to crack it but turned out to be the EGR valve stuck open a few millimetres which caused lean running & stalling. The hunting at idle was also cured too. Perfect since.
There is also a recent issue with petrol cars of spark plugs being coated in a pinky orange dust which causes lack of power up hills. This is down do a fuel additive put in at refineries. Regular use of something like redex always helps & combats corrosion caused by this new E10 shite. There's no ethanol in super unleaded BTW but it's dearer. |
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Need a diagnostic reading on it
Could be a number of things from plugs to injectors or fuel issues to a computer fault with it be in a Peugeot likelihood is it's the computer.
To check the clutch put in 2ed with hand brake on (firmly) if it stalls your clutch is ok.
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It's pretty hard to diagnose a problem without actually seeing the vehicle.
A simple ebay/amazon CANBUS code reader will flag up any fault codes stored within the ECM.
Unless you know how to interpret the codes, (which can be done) you are best taking it to a garage.
The MAF sensor works in conjunction with the Lambda sensor in the exhaust. If the Lambda sensor is faulty it can cause overfulling (ritch mixture). This could cause the hunting and irratic rpm at lower revs.
On the opposite of that, if the MAF sensor is faulty it can cause the same symptoms but also poor acceleration.
Overfulling can foul the plugs which will display the same symptoms.
Sensors are cheap enough however the labour time at the garage will be an hour minimum to plug in the diagnostic tool.
Good luck, hopefully it won't be to expensive. |
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By *ttmcdguyTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic. "
My advice is pay it !!
Peugeot seem to have a tricky ecu
The average obd reader doesn’t read accurately
The main dealer has the correct software to diagnose correctly
Once you got the diagnosis take it to somewhere cheaper for the repairs |
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You can't really diagnose a problem on a forum. Likewise car diagnosis (even main dealer ones) doesn't always reveal the right problem. It could be something major or something simple like a lose connection inside a plug. For example diagnostics may point to a sensor problem. Most places would just swap out the sensor (which maybe expensive). But the problem may be a very concealed wiring problem and thus after all the cost of sensor replacement not fix the fault and result in hours more of head scratching and fault investigation. Some symptoms can be very symptomatic of a range of faults. Sorry to be such a doom monger.
However when we're the spark plugs replaced. Do you trust the garages knowledge and experience? The reason I say is spark plugs are easy and cheap to replace yourself (you may need to pick up a cheap spark plug socket). Many videos on YouTube and easy part of the engine to access. If you think the garage maybe onto something and you know the sparks are old would it be worth a shot to change yourself for cheap? |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall.
Hey - it was cheap!
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
A
You'll still need seriously deep pockets to keep it on the road mate."
I've had French cars for most of the last 30 years- rarely had an issue, not even bothered servicing some properly.
Also had a 2 Fords, both were a pain in the arse
Parents had had 5-5 Pugs/Citroens...again, little to report.
However the Honda, Mercedes & Vauxhall all cost a bloody fortune |
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"You can't really diagnose a problem on a forum. Likewise car diagnosis (even main dealer ones) doesn't always reveal the right problem. It could be something major or something simple like a lose connection inside a plug. For example diagnostics may point to a sensor problem. Most places would just swap out the sensor (which maybe expensive). But the problem may be a very concealed wiring problem and thus after all the cost of sensor replacement not fix the fault and result in hours more of head scratching and fault investigation. Some symptoms can be very symptomatic of a range of faults. Sorry to be such a doom monger.
However when we're the spark plugs replaced. Do you trust the garages knowledge and experience? The reason I say is spark plugs are easy and cheap to replace yourself (you may need to pick up a cheap spark plug socket). Many videos on YouTube and easy part of the engine to access. If you think the garage maybe onto something and you know the sparks are old would it be worth a shot to change yourself for cheap?"
Had a 307 and a cable that had pulled and gone through the insulation was shorting to a chassis earth. Guy only found it by pure chance (nearly said fluke but that's a multimeter).
Oh and the engine still needs an airflow signal so it has a MAP sensor not a MAF £47 from GSF for the record |
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic.
My advice is pay it !!
Peugeot seem to have a tricky ecu
The average obd reader doesn’t read accurately
The main dealer has the correct software to diagnose correctly
Once you got the diagnosis take it to somewhere cheaper for the repairs "
You can buy a reader that reads all the modules of the ECU for less than what a main dealer charges for one scan!
Mine was only £90 and I've used it on dozens of cars without fail.
Never pay main stealer prices. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
A
Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall.
Hey - it was cheap!
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
A
You'll still need seriously deep pockets to keep it on the road mate.
I've had French cars for most of the last 30 years- rarely had an issue, not even bothered servicing some properly.
Also had a 2 Fords, both were a pain in the arse
Parents had had 5-5 Pugs/Citroens...again, little to report.
However the Honda, Mercedes & Vauxhall all cost a bloody fortune "
That's uncanny!
My vauxhall has done nigh on 200k without being regularly serviced and is dirt cheap to run, and the truck we had until recently with a merc engine lasted ages til we scrapped it.
Did have a Honda for a short period but that was 2nd hand and had recurring gearbox/clutch issues so we took it back but I know someone who runs a quite 'aged' one that runs like a dream, which took some getting used to seeing as he was always a die hard Alfisti....
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By (user no longer on site)
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One of my old cars (fiat) was very particular about spark plugs and had to have the best (£££ )... If i kept it happy it purred. The garage couldn't get them one time, so put cheap ones on.. A week later i was kangaroo-ing down the dual carriage way!
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You can buy a fault code reader for about £20 which will give you a clue. Sounds like it could be a combination of blocked injectors or dodgy spark plugs. This happened to a friend of mine recently- his car was sorted at a garage for about £100.
You could run some injector cleaner through it yourself for a tenner. It might cure the problem. |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
I am taking to a garage on Monday but to be honest it's been doing it for a while and so far it's been ok so depending on cost may not get it fixed straight away.
This definitely sounds like a job for Mr Who.
A
Should I give my standard advice or actual technical advice?
You mean like "It's French so it's going to be shit?"
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Don't buy French are words to live by when it comes to cars...
As I'm sure you recall.
Hey - it was cheap!
But yep. Definitely sound advice. Unless it's a 1969 Citroën DS 21......
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You'll still need seriously deep pockets to keep it on the road mate.
I've had French cars for most of the last 30 years- rarely had an issue, not even bothered servicing some properly.
Also had a 2 Fords, both were a pain in the arse
Parents had had 5-5 Pugs/Citroens...again, little to report.
However the Honda, Mercedes & Vauxhall all cost a bloody fortune
That's uncanny!
My vauxhall has done nigh on 200k without being regularly serviced and is dirt cheap to run, and the truck we had until recently with a merc engine lasted ages til we scrapped it.
Did have a Honda for a short period but that was 2nd hand and had recurring gearbox/clutch issues so we took it back but I know someone who runs a quite 'aged' one that runs like a dream, which took some getting used to seeing as he was always a die hard Alfisti....
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Yeah, my Civic is excellent for a 2007 car. It does have a grumbling input shaft bearing though, I'll change it when I do the clutch in about 100k miles. |
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"Ask on goggle if your car and year has spark plugs it will tell you and maybe it may help you,fingers crossed this helps
Do some cars not have spark plugs
I think diesel engines don't use spark plugs. The diesel is is ignited by the higher compression."
Correct.
All petrol cars have sparks but diesels don't, just glow plugs to heat the diesel at startup
As for this problem, could be any number of things, have to say sparks wouldn't be my first guess for the symptoms described.
Could be any number of sensors, bad fuel delivery, or if (as I'm assuming) it's a VVT engine as most modern cars will be the component which controls the valve timing. I'm casting my mind way back but I think I recall it being called a dephaser but I could be a mile wrong.
Interestingly my GT86 did this for a day once about 4 years ago and never again since |
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over a year ago
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Well the problem is called Peugeot this is the same engine as in Mini, it's bmw engine and it's not the best one...sounds like it could be Vanos solenoid, they give troubles sometimes, even rocker cover, i know sounds mad but they have some kind of breather, had that issue on mini recently...but look we can just guess here, definitely needs to be scanned for fault codes, active and history...also main dealers are usually rip off, if you know some good independent garage go there rather than main dealer...and last thing, keep us updated what was wrong |
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"You can buy a fault code reader for about £20 which will give you a clue. Sounds like it could be a combination of blocked injectors or dodgy spark plugs. This happened to a friend of mine recently- his car was sorted at a garage for about £100.
You could run some injector cleaner through it yourself for a tenner. It might cure the problem."
Only use a professional’trade! Injector cleaner - Fueltone , best in the world! |
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab. "
What you state there is air in your fuel lines. as it shows up more in diesel engines.
the hunting of fuel
changing down in gears the excellerator being depressed so not enough fuel going to engine.
you pressing on the accelerator cancels this enough.
Your spark plugs will show if too lean or too rich of a fuel/air mixture |
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic. "
Your best bet for "good" advice would be a car specific group... there's likely to be several on Facebook. You can buy a code reader on amazon for much less than £120, with that you could tell the appropriate group the codes for more accurate advice.
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"So my car (2010 Peugeot 207cc petrol 1.6 allure ) has had numerous issues since I bought it. The latest being the engine cutting out when changing down gears (not all the time, just now and then). If I can catch it the engine will kick in when I put my foot on the accelerator. It also sometimes hunts when idling making me look like a chavy boy racer at traffic lights.
Always starts ok and with have periods of running with no issues what so ever.
Oh and sometimes it 'stutters' when travelling....almost as if there is something blocking the fuel because after a few mins it pushes through this.
I did some googling and was convinced it was the MAF but I got told today by a garage my car doesn't have a MAF :'-)
They've suggested it could be the spark plugs....thoughts, oh wise car people of fab.
What you state there is air in your fuel lines. as it shows up more in diesel engines.
the hunting of fuel
changing down in gears the excellerator being depressed so not enough fuel going to engine.
you pressing on the accelerator cancels this enough.
Your spark plugs will show if too lean or too rich of a fuel/air mixture "
It's a petrol, not diesel. |
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic.
Your best bet for "good" advice would be a car specific group... there's likely to be several on Facebook. You can buy a code reader on amazon for much less than £120, with that you could tell the appropriate group the codes for more accurate advice.
Cal"
A Peugeot specific forum may help you but really only if you already know how to do maintenance yourself otherwise they may as well be talking about strawberry flip flop valves for all you'll understand.An OBD code reader may also help - but again some fundamental understanding of what the code means is necessary.
What a Peugeot forum may help you with is finding a reliable and cost effective trades person or sometimes local enthusiast that will help. You never know they might be hot as fuck as well although I doubt it, most engineers are gimps like me |
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Hope you get it sorted, find yourself an independent Garage, they will use the same equipment as a main stealer or maybe source it a lot cheaper.
I am having issues with my Vauxhall, My mechanic bought an OPCOM (Specific for Vauxhall) scanner off Ebay which is the same diagnostics the Stealer will use and plugged that in which has hopefully diagnosed the fault...
Mine has pickled our heads tbf |
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What you state there is air in your fuel lines. as it shows up more in diesel engines.
the hunting of fuel
changing down in gears the excellerator being depressed so not enough fuel going to engine.
you pressing on the accelerator cancels this enough.
Your spark plugs will show if too lean or too rich of a fuel/air mixture
It's a petrol, not diesel. "
it dosnt matter wether its diesel or petrol it does the same thing with both.
with diesels it can go into turbo mode and excelerate on you with that extra air mix. |
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"Have you taken it to a main dealer?
Not yet. Rang them today but they want £120 for a diagnostic.
Your best bet for "good" advice would be a car specific group... there's likely to be several on Facebook. You can buy a code reader on amazon for much less than £120, with that you could tell the appropriate group the codes for more accurate advice.
Cal
A Peugeot specific forum may help you but really only if you already know how to do maintenance yourself otherwise they may as well be talking about strawberry flip flop valves for all you'll understand.An OBD code reader may also help - but again some fundamental understanding of what the code means is necessary.
What a Peugeot forum may help you with is finding a reliable and cost effective trades person or sometimes local enthusiast that will help. You never know they might be hot as fuck as well although I doubt it, most engineers are gimps like me "
Compared to asking questions on here, having codes and asking people who knows how to use those codes would be a HUGE step forward... obviously the easy option is just to pay the dealer to fix it.
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