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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Has anybody seen this advert starring Vinnie Jones? Demonstrating CPR. It's hilarious - on You Tube if you want to watch it. On a related matter, can I just remind people to get themselves put on the organ donor register. Too many people awaiting transplants whilst organs go to waste. Thanks. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous  "
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in."
Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Organ donation is a really personal matter,I don't believe that there should be an opt out scheme
If people choose to be a donor and in the even their organs are able to be used then fantastic,but organs should'nt be harvested because someone did'nt opt out before they passed away
Its choice and it should stay a choice
Im a donor but my husband is'nt,his reasons are just as valid for not being a donor as mine are choosing to be one,although by the time I die I hope everything is knackered and of no use to anyone  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice. "
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Organ donation is a really personal matter,I don't believe that there should be an opt out scheme
If people choose to be a donor and in the even their organs are able to be used then fantastic,but organs should'nt be harvested because someone did'nt opt out before they passed away
Its choice and it should stay a choice
Im a donor but my husband is'nt,his reasons are just as valid for not being a donor as mine are choosing to be one,although by the time I die I hope everything is knackered and of no use to anyone "
That's a good point, never thought of it that way before. I'm in favour of an opt out system. I carry a card and I'm on the register but it would be awful if a relative overrode my wishes when/ if the time came and said my organs couldn't be used.
However I totally agree that people should have a choice, and their reasons are their own.
Haven't seen the ad either, I'll have a look for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can also do CPR to nelly the ellephant too  "
See, that just makes me think of The Toy Dooll's punk cover version and I can't see as that would work!
But joking aside, the advert is great. It should be remembered that in America, everyone is taught CPR at school and most public buildings have defibrilators. I think the survival rate over there for cardiac arrest is 3 times higher than for the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak "
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs... "
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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The important thing is to have thought about it in advance, come to a decision, made sure your next of kin know your wishes and don't wait till you're old before you do it.
The worst thing is folks faffing about trying to decide what the deceased would have wished. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no."
Look after our own before we help others!!! We're giving billions of pounds a year in aid to other countries when we owe billions, Work that out? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no."
I'm not aware of how anyone can buy an organ? Can you tell me more?
So I assume that if you were terminally ill you would accept the inevitability of your own death if the treatment wasn't available in the UK rather than go to a country where it was? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"The important thing is to have thought about it in advance, come to a decision, made sure your next of kin know your wishes and don't wait till you're old before you do it.
The worst thing is folks faffing about trying to decide what the deceased would have wished."
The worst thing is that the deceased's relatives are still allowed to over ride the deceased's wishes to donate. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no."
I actually struggle with the concept of ANYBODY being able to buy organs, foreigner or not. Lets face is all of us are foreigners almost everywhere in the world  |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"The important thing is to have thought about it in advance, come to a decision, made sure your next of kin know your wishes and don't wait till you're old before you do it.
The worst thing is folks faffing about trying to decide what the deceased would have wished.
The worst thing is that the deceased's relatives are still allowed to over ride the deceased's wishes to donate."
And that, thank goodness, is a good thing. If the deceased person's wishes were disregarded what is the point in having a will? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no.
I'm not aware of how anyone can buy an organ? Can you tell me more?
So I assume that if you were terminally ill you would accept the inevitability of your own death if the treatment wasn't available in the UK rather than go to a country where it was? "
OK. If you didn't see the documentary, read this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203383/Foreigners-banned-having-UK-organ-transplants.html
It says they were going to ban the practice but not sure if it's happened yet. And to reply to your question. No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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" No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country."
I would not either! It would feel completely immoral to me to pay somebody for an organ they would sell out of poverty and deprivation. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"The important thing is to have thought about it in advance, come to a decision, made sure your next of kin know your wishes and don't wait till you're old before you do it.
The worst thing is folks faffing about trying to decide what the deceased would have wished.
The worst thing is that the deceased's relatives are still allowed to over ride the deceased's wishes to donate.And that, thank goodness, is a good thing. If the deceased person's wishes were disregarded what is the point in having a will? "
The organ donation website says
"We know that in most cases families will agree to donation if they knew that was their loved one's wish.
If the family, or those closest to the person who has died, object to the donation when the person who has died has given their explicit permission, either by telling relatives, close friends or clinical staff, or by carrying a donor card or registering their wishes on the NHS Organ Donor Register, healthcare professionals will discuss the matter sensitively with them.
They will be encouraged to accept the dead person's wishes and it will be made clear that they do not have the legal right to veto or overrule those wishes.
There may, nevertheless, be cases where it would be inappropriate for donation to go ahead."
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
" If you didn't see the documentary, read this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203383/Foreigners-banned-having-UK-organ-transplants.html
It says they were going to ban the practice but not sure if it's happened yet. And to reply to your question. No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country."
We need to be wary of believing what we read in the Daily Mail. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The important thing is to have thought about it in advance, come to a decision, made sure your next of kin know your wishes and don't wait till you're old before you do it.
The worst thing is folks faffing about trying to decide what the deceased would have wished.
The worst thing is that the deceased's relatives are still allowed to over ride the deceased's wishes to donate.And that, thank goodness, is a good thing. If the deceased person's wishes were disregarded what is the point in having a will?
The organ donation website says
"We know that in most cases families will agree to donation if they knew that was their loved one's wish.
If the family, or those closest to the person who has died, object to the donation when the person who has died has given their explicit permission, either by telling relatives, close friends or clinical staff, or by carrying a donor card or registering their wishes on the NHS Organ Donor Register, healthcare professionals will discuss the matter sensitively with them.
They will be encouraged to accept the dead person's wishes and it will be made clear that they do not have the legal right to veto or overrule those wishes.
There may, nevertheless, be cases where it would be inappropriate for donation to go ahead."
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My understanding is that this scenario is very unusual. The far more common reason for the organs not to be harvested is medical. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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" If you didn't see the documentary, read this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203383/Foreigners-banned-having-UK-organ-transplants.html
It says they were going to ban the practice but not sure if it's happened yet. And to reply to your question. No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country.
We need to be wary of believing what we read in the Daily Mail."
Lol. I was waiting for that one. There was a documentary on the subject a while ago but I can't find any info now. For the record I am not a DM reader! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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I agree. Very unusual if only because a nok whose objections were ignored would head straight for the courts and the press.
All the more reason to discuss your wishes in advance and ensure your nok agree with your decision - or at least won't seek to second guess it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no.
I'm not aware of how anyone can buy an organ? Can you tell me more?
So I assume that if you were terminally ill you would accept the inevitability of your own death if the treatment wasn't available in the UK rather than go to a country where it was?
OK. If you didn't see the documentary, read this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203383/Foreigners-banned-having-UK-organ-transplants.html
It says they were going to ban the practice but not sure if it's happened yet. And to reply to your question. No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country."
Out of interest do you know if British private patients get any sort of priority over NHS patients? The private patient is buying the care not the organ . Could this be another Daily Mail non-story just stirring up hatred and paranoia? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Personally I would not wish to be a donor but I think the ad is absolutely fabulous
Can I ask why, if it's not too personal? Would you change your mind if you had a loved one in hospital waiting for a new heart? Personally I think the system should be opt out, not in.Not at all, of course you can. I would not wish to be a donor to anybody except my family and as that is not an option I would prefer not to be a donor. I do understand the desire to keep people alive with the help of donated organs - it is just not something I subscribe to and as such I dont agree with the opt out proposal. Just a personal choice.
Oh yes, I see. That recent documentary about organs going to 'tourists' was not very helpful. And I do agree that that is not a good thing. Charity should begin at home so to speak
So all people aren't equal? Or equally in need of your organs...
Not foreigners who come to the UK and 'buy' them, no.
I'm not aware of how anyone can buy an organ? Can you tell me more?
So I assume that if you were terminally ill you would accept the inevitability of your own death if the treatment wasn't available in the UK rather than go to a country where it was?
OK. If you didn't see the documentary, read this.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1203383/Foreigners-banned-having-UK-organ-transplants.html
It says they were going to ban the practice but not sure if it's happened yet. And to reply to your question. No, I would not go to another country and queue jump, if I was rich enough to. And I want my organs to go to somebody who resides in this country.
Out of interest do you know if British private patients get any sort of priority over NHS patients? The private patient is buying the care not the organ . Could this be another Daily Mail non-story just stirring up hatred and paranoia?"
As I said, there was a documentary, I wasn't relying on what the DM wrote. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I give blood, am on the bone marrow register, and when I pop it they can take whatever is of use for whoever needs it most. My family know and understand this, and we're all of a similar frame of mind so hopefully when I go someone else will benefit from it |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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I've arranged to leave my cadaver to medical research.
The concensus is that the bits won't be worth eff-all. If student doctors can learn from what's left - that'll be as good an epitaph as I can expect.
BTW. You can't do both. |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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Glad I read this thread, I'm doing my will on Tuesday, seeing as I'm soon to have major surgery, and though I'm on the organ donor list and my family are aware of my wishes, I hadn't thought about bunging it in the will...am also a living donor as I'm donating my gammy hip - apparently the ball joint can be used in revision surgery, and if not suitable for that, can be used for research purposes - as I haven't a dog to give it to, and didn't want to keep it on the mantelpiece I thought someone else might get some use out of it  |
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By *londeCazWoman
over a year ago
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"It isn't anything to do with your will. It'll be too late by the time that's read.
Go to the NHS Organ Donation website and register there.
Tell your surgeon about your wishes."
Thanks, I'm already registered, but my executrix will also know my wishes should I cock my clogs on the operating table |
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By *nnyMan
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"It isn't anything to do with your will. It'll be too late by the time that's read.
Go to the NHS Organ Donation website and register there.
Tell your surgeon about your wishes.
Thanks, I'm already registered, but my executrix will also know my wishes should I cock my clogs on the operating table "
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