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"its too hot " Hot in the City Tonight? | |||
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"Who the hell cares about bloody football" Well you cared enough to post on this thread  | |||
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"Who the hell cares about bloody football" Given that it’s the most popular sport in the world with billions watching every week and has huge sums of money involved, with global brands wanting to be associated with it, I’d say quite a few people care about football.  | |||
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"Who the hell cares about bloody football" I'm guessing one or two. | |||
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Major overhaul needed. No direction, no confidence, not playing as a team.
My favourite MU meme of the weekend, after the 4 - 0 route by Brentford.
Christian Erikson goes home to his wife.
"Babe............what the fuck have I done" 
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"Who the hell cares about bloody football" Football fans ? | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice "Feel personally attacked  | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice "I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter... Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough "Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. | |||
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"Who the hell cares about bloody football" Well said!!! | |||
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"The problems for MUFC are that 1) they think they have an entitlement to success and 2) they have an army of ex-players and ex-managers undermining the current manager." I think they are undermining the owners not the manager in this instance. | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice "I'm not biting | |||
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"Who else is surpriced thattheir season is going from bad to worse? tTe 2 manchesters are opposite each other, city is leading and utd at last place, could there be a chance they can get relegated, is it down to the manager or that the players doesnt perform or is it a combination of them too "To be fair, after two games at the beginning of a long season, the current state of the league table is completely irrelevant. If the were to have a good win in their next two games they could easily be in the top five in a fortnight. I'm not a fan of football in the slightest, but the "hatred" of Man-United for 80% of football fans seems really disproportionate. Cal | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough
Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. "Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney  | |||
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" Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney "Ferguson had a pretty good idea of what the owners were up too. Remember he said "there is no value in the transfer market". I suspect now that this was code for the Glazers don't want to spend anymore. I also think that Ferguson's last team needed a massive overhaul due to the age of the players and that he just did not feel up to that. | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough
Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney "Fergie knew what was going to happen. Was an old team when he left. | |||
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"Their whole structure is goings tits up ! Who, in their right mind would spend over £50 million on a centre back who's only 5'9" tall ? Are they fookin'bonkers!! Opposition simply has to keep putting high balls in to the box and at some point the centre forward is going to get a goal !!Mind you as a Leeds United fan I think it's awesome and long may it continue !! "I pointed this out on another thread and got told the old days of hoof ball were over . He got bodied at Brentford. He couldn’t compete and his pace was suspect.
He needs to go out on the left or into midfield. But it’s fun to watch. | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough
Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney
Fergie knew what was going to happen. Was an old team when he left. "Yes. I thought so too. I wonder if we will see them winning in the future? | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough
Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney
Fergie knew what was going to happen. Was an old team when he left. Yes. I thought so too. I wonder if we will see them winning in the future? "Aren’t you a City fan Shag? Haha | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice
I will never regret my choice to support United. I started supporting them just before the Premier League era but I was always accused of being a glory supporter...
Uniteds history has shown how difficult it is to replace Managers like Busby and Ferguson so I expected a slump. What I didn't account for was the club chucking billions at buying players who did not suit the club or weren't good enough
Yes, like anyone could have predicted the run United went on! They'd not won the league for 25years when I started watching football. Yes. I wonder if that is the reason of why ferguson stepped down as a manager as he could see the decline, so wanted to end his management during good times? United was its best with giggs and rooney
Fergie knew what was going to happen. Was an old team when he left. Yes. I thought so too. I wonder if we will see them winning in the future?
Aren’t you a City fan Shag? Haha "Yes. I am a city fan as well lol, lets hope that utited can do abit better | |||
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"It’s a beautiful thing watching arrogant cunts crumble, now they know what it’s like to be a real football team that doesn’t win everything, hopefully it’ll bring them back to a more humble setting, gone are the Ferguson years so let’s all join together to point and laugh. The mr " | |||
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"It’s a beautiful thing watching arrogant cunts crumble, now they know what it’s like to be a real football team that doesn’t win everything, hopefully it’ll bring them back to a more humble setting, gone are the Ferguson years so let’s all join together to point and laugh. The mr "What he said with bell and whistles on. | |||
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"Who else is surpriced thattheir season is going from bad to worse? tTe 2 manchesters are opposite each other, city is leading and utd at last place, could there be a chance they can get relegated, is it down to the manager or that the players doesnt perform or is it a combination of them too "Glazer ownership | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. " I only learned about that recently. The fact United are in this shit show over a fucking horse! I don't know whether to laugh or cry | |||
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"Who else is surpriced thattheir season is going from bad to worse? tTe 2 manchesters are opposite each other, city is leading and utd at last place, could there be a chance they can get relegated, is it down to the manager or that the players doesnt perform or is it a combination of them too "Long may it continue. | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. " What does the horse have to do with it? | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it?" Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs | |||
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"What are the odds of both Manchester United and Ryan Giggs going down?" Even, I'd say..... | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs" Thanks for the info. | |||
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"Who else is surpriced thattheir season is going from bad to worse? tTe 2 manchesters are opposite each other, city is leading and utd at last place, could there be a chance they can get relegated, is it down to the manager or that the players doesnt perform or is it a combination of them too "They're only 6 points off the top and only 2 points from Liverpool (shrugs) | |||
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"Who else is surpriced thattheir season is going from bad to worse? tTe 2 manchesters are opposite each other, city is leading and utd at last place, could there be a chance they can get relegated, is it down to the manager or that the players doesnt perform or is it a combination of them too
They're only 6 points off the top and only 2 points from Liverpool (shrugs) "That's the spirit! | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs" It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. | |||
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"I have a love hate relationship with football, I love the sport but hate how it brings out the hate in people. " This.. | |||
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"I have a love hate relationship with football, I love the sport but hate how it brings out the hate in people. " Same issue I have with the England Football Team. The fans and that bloody band always put me off supporting the National Team. It was great watching the woman’s team and fans a few weeks ago. Totally different atmosphere, you really thought you could go with a family and enjoy the game. | |||
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"What with all the doom and gloom in the country at the moment, rampant inflation, Brexit problems, lying politicians, Covid, etc can I please give a big shout out to Manchester United for brightening up the summer. Long may it continue. " | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. " Ferguson was a complete twat though. If the only way a manager can get their team to perform, is to give them the "hairdryer" treatment and throw boots and other objects at them, then that's a pretty piss poor method. I'm pretty sure if I roasted my team like that and threw things at people, I'd at minimum be disciplined (rightly) or even sacked. Why is it okay in football? | |||
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"All those glory hunting teenage boys of the 90s now regretting their team of choice "I'll have you know, I was a glory hunting teenage boy of the 00s thank you very much | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work "Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters? | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. Ferguson was a complete twat though. If the only way a manager can get their team to perform, is to give them the "hairdryer" treatment and throw boots and other objects at them, then that's a pretty piss poor method. I'm pretty sure if I roasted my team like that and threw things at people, I'd at minimum be disciplined (rightly) or even sacked. Why is it okay in football? " He didn't just do the hairdryer though. All of his former players said they weren't scared of him, theybwee scared of letting him down. Because he set the standard of how to win and if you weren't on board with that, you were gone. | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?"We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017. As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. Ferguson was a complete twat though. If the only way a manager can get their team to perform, is to give them the "hairdryer" treatment and throw boots and other objects at them, then that's a pretty piss poor method. I'm pretty sure if I roasted my team like that and threw things at people, I'd at minimum be disciplined (rightly) or even sacked. Why is it okay in football? He didn't just do the hairdryer though. All of his former players said they weren't scared of him, theybwee scared of letting him down. Because he set the standard of how to win and if you weren't on board with that, you were gone." Any manager who throws things at their charges when things aren't going their way is not competent. | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?
We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017.
As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue "Stuck together? Is that what you call sending death threats to Karius after the Champions League final? Hounding out Roy Hodgson even though he was only an appointment by the old regime? Supporting Robbie Fowler making homophobic remarks to Graeme Le Saux? Great fans sticking together for their team there. By the way, I'm comparing what you actually achieved to what your fans kept harping on about to anyone with ears. It also still shows the emotions Man United draw out in people. You'd never get this level of vitriol in a thread for any other team | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. Ferguson was a complete twat though. If the only way a manager can get their team to perform, is to give them the "hairdryer" treatment and throw boots and other objects at them, then that's a pretty piss poor method. I'm pretty sure if I roasted my team like that and threw things at people, I'd at minimum be disciplined (rightly) or even sacked. Why is it okay in football? He didn't just do the hairdryer though. All of his former players said they weren't scared of him, theybwee scared of letting him down. Because he set the standard of how to win and if you weren't on board with that, you were gone. Any manager who throws things at their charges when things aren't going their way is not competent. " What do he throw? He kicked a boot when angry that hit Beckham, you really think he was aiming for him? | |||
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"You could say the start of Uniteds problem was with a race horse called The Rock of Gibraltar. Also I believe after Ferguson left Moyse should’ve been given more time. Either way it’s only two games, by the end of the season they could be fighting for a Champions League place. The transfer window is still open and it’s only the start of the season. I don’t think they’ll be relegated but the next game is Liverpool so I predict more issues before resolutions. What does the horse have to do with it? Sir Alex got into an argument with a couple of the United shareholders over studding rights of a horse and went it court about it. They pulled out of United letting the Glaziers come in. Tifo Football did a video about it: https://youtu.be/1BBYb3uDcXs It’s never really talked about with ex players as they would be critical of Ferguson. Admittedly Roy Keane would possibly attribute some of United decline to that episode. What’s frustrating (I’m a Bolton fan) if I was a United fan would be that they have a great academy. I’m sure there’s younger talent somewhere amongst that group of players. Ferguson was a complete twat though. If the only way a manager can get their team to perform, is to give them the "hairdryer" treatment and throw boots and other objects at them, then that's a pretty piss poor method. I'm pretty sure if I roasted my team like that and threw things at people, I'd at minimum be disciplined (rightly) or even sacked. Why is it okay in football? He didn't just do the hairdryer though. All of his former players said they weren't scared of him, theybwee scared of letting him down. Because he set the standard of how to win and if you weren't on board with that, you were gone. Any manager who throws things at their charges when things aren't going their way is not competent. What do he throw? He kicked a boot when angry that hit Beckham, you really think he was aiming for him?" There'd plenty of stories of him lobbing bits of kit and bottles (and boots) during half time team talks and the like. Not just the episode Beckham spoke about. | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?
We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017.
As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue
Stuck together? Is that what you call sending death threats to Karius after the Champions League final? Hounding out Roy Hodgson even though he was only an appointment by the old regime? Supporting Robbie Fowler making homophobic remarks to Graeme Le Saux? Great fans sticking together for their team there.
By the way, I'm comparing what you actually achieved to what your fans kept harping on about to anyone with ears. It also still shows the emotions Man United draw out in people. You'd never get this level of vitriol in a thread for any other team "You always seem a little perplexed and get hot and bothered with football threads don’t you? Read the OP, It asks what’s happening to Manchester United. The answer so clear it’s on the end of your nose but yet you chose to speak about Liverpool. Talk about living rent free 
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?
We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017.
As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue
Stuck together? Is that what you call sending death threats to Karius after the Champions League final? Hounding out Roy Hodgson even though he was only an appointment by the old regime? Supporting Robbie Fowler making homophobic remarks to Graeme Le Saux? Great fans sticking together for their team there.
By the way, I'm comparing what you actually achieved to what your fans kept harping on about to anyone with ears. It also still shows the emotions Man United draw out in people. You'd never get this level of vitriol in a thread for any other team
You always seem a little perplexed and get hot and bothered with football threads don’t you? Read the OP, It asks what’s happening to Manchester United. The answer so clear it’s on the end of your nose but yet you chose to speak about Liverpool. Talk about living rent free
Please continue, it’s brilliant reading "Now now boys. I’ll have the pair of you over my knee! | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?
We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017.
As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue
Stuck together? Is that what you call sending death threats to Karius after the Champions League final? Hounding out Roy Hodgson even though he was only an appointment by the old regime? Supporting Robbie Fowler making homophobic remarks to Graeme Le Saux? Great fans sticking together for their team there.
By the way, I'm comparing what you actually achieved to what your fans kept harping on about to anyone with ears. It also still shows the emotions Man United draw out in people. You'd never get this level of vitriol in a thread for any other team
You always seem a little perplexed and get hot and bothered with football threads don’t you? Read the OP, It asks what’s happening to Manchester United. The answer so clear it’s on the end of your nose but yet you chose to speak about Liverpool. Talk about living rent free
Please continue, it’s brilliant reading "You're talking about me mentioning Liverpool, you commented on a Man United thread! The problems are easy to see at United, how to fix it is another issue. Let's be honest, it's just a thread made for other fans to pile on United like most of them are on here. The reason you don't get them when City or Liverpool lose big games is because they get all of 10 comments | |||
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"It’s great to see. The entitlement of their supporters is fantastic viewing and reading. Keep up the good work
Like Liverpool fans aren't just as entitled? How did that quadruple work out for your mentality monsters?
We know what bad is and stuck together pal all the way through it. Not once did we call for any of the managers to lose their jobs during that time. The difference between Liverpool and the Manc clubs is we support our team through thick and thin and get behind the squad of players. As for your throw away quadruple quote, it shows how desperate you Mancs are trying to mock another team for not winning all four trophies available to them in a season when the last time you won anything was 2017.
As I said this is excellent reading. Please, continue
Stuck together? Is that what you call sending death threats to Karius after the Champions League final? Hounding out Roy Hodgson even though he was only an appointment by the old regime? Supporting Robbie Fowler making homophobic remarks to Graeme Le Saux? Great fans sticking together for their team there.
By the way, I'm comparing what you actually achieved to what your fans kept harping on about to anyone with ears. It also still shows the emotions Man United draw out in people. You'd never get this level of vitriol in a thread for any other team
You always seem a little perplexed and get hot and bothered with football threads don’t you? Read the OP, It asks what’s happening to Manchester United. The answer so clear it’s on the end of your nose but yet you chose to speak about Liverpool. Talk about living rent free
Please continue, it’s brilliant reading
You're talking about me mentioning Liverpool, you commented on a Man United thread! The problems are easy to see at United, how to fix it is another issue. Let's be honest, it's just a thread made for other fans to pile on United like most of them are on here. The reason you don't get them when City or Liverpool lose big games is because they get all of 10 comments"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?"If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base. | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base. "Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football? | |||
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"Too much player power there, they are bossing the dressing room in some kind of clique, they are going nowhere and until Ten Hag gets the dressing room sorted out his coat will be on a shaky nail
Not just at Man U, but at clubs where players earn ridiculous salaries and where agents seem to call the shots, it seems like managers always have issues controlling the dressing room. It's bonkers that individual players and agents seem to be able to influence things so much. "But but but paying large salaries and paying over inflated transfer fees should buy success but it’s Liverpools fault | |||
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"Too much player power there, they are bossing the dressing room in some kind of clique, they are going nowhere and until Ten Hag gets the dressing room sorted out his coat will be on a shaky nail
Not just at Man U, but at clubs where players earn ridiculous salaries and where agents seem to call the shots, it seems like managers always have issues controlling the dressing room. It's bonkers that individual players and agents seem to be able to influence things so much. "I agree, it feels like unless you're a proven winner of a manager, getting players to buy into an idea is tough, otherwise they don't bother because they're getting paid regardless. It's sad to see  | |||
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"Too much player power there, they are bossing the dressing room in some kind of clique, they are going nowhere and until Ten Hag gets the dressing room sorted out his coat will be on a shaky nail
Not just at Man U, but at clubs where players earn ridiculous salaries and where agents seem to call the shots, it seems like managers always have issues controlling the dressing room. It's bonkers that individual players and agents seem to be able to influence things so much. "I agree totally but in MAN Uniteds case it seems worse, I did think it would improve with Pogba leaving but no chance, Ronaldo is class but he clearly doesn't want another season there so he will be casting a cloud over the place. For them to improve they have to clear the dressing room out. | |||
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"Too much player power there, they are bossing the dressing room in some kind of clique, they are going nowhere and until Ten Hag gets the dressing room sorted out his coat will be on a shaky nail
Not just at Man U, but at clubs where players earn ridiculous salaries and where agents seem to call the shots, it seems like managers always have issues controlling the dressing room. It's bonkers that individual players and agents seem to be able to influence things so much.
I agree, it feels like unless you're a proven winner of a manager, getting players to buy into an idea is tough, otherwise they don't bother because they're getting paid regardless. It's sad to see "Ten Haag is a proven winner with Ajax (of Dutch league and cup trophies). He also managed the Go Ahead Eagles who are my Dutch team, so I have a soft spot for him. He should have sufficient respect just because he's been appointed by the Club. He's won things with Ajax which should also contribute. | |||
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"Too much player power there, they are bossing the dressing room in some kind of clique, they are going nowhere and until Ten Hag gets the dressing room sorted out his coat will be on a shaky nail
Not just at Man U, but at clubs where players earn ridiculous salaries and where agents seem to call the shots, it seems like managers always have issues controlling the dressing room. It's bonkers that individual players and agents seem to be able to influence things so much.
I agree, it feels like unless you're a proven winner of a manager, getting players to buy into an idea is tough, otherwise they don't bother because they're getting paid regardless. It's sad to see
Ten Haag is a proven winner with Ajax (of Dutch league and cup trophies). He also managed the Go Ahead Eagles who are my Dutch team, so I have a soft spot for him. He should have sufficient respect just because he's been appointed by the Club. He's won things with Ajax which should also contribute. "I agree, getting to the CL semi finals with that Ajax team should also be enough. That's why I'd rather give hime all the time in the world to get his players in and shift the divas, even if we finish mid-table for a couple of years. | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?"Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club. Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away. You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level. If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together "You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it? The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement. | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement."No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team). Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement. As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge. As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement.
No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team).
Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement.
As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge.
As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on "I'm done, I can't anymore. You're clearly letting your bias get in the way of having a sensible opinion that I'm not going to change your mind regardless of how I spell it out. | |||
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement.
No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team).
Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement.
As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge.
As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement.
No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team).
Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement.
As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge.
As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on
I'm done, I can't anymore. You're clearly letting your bias get in the way of having a sensible opinion that I'm not going to change your mind regardless of how I spell it out.
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement.
No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team).
Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement.
As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge.
As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on
I'm done, I can't anymore. You're clearly letting your bias get in the way of having a sensible opinion that I'm not going to change your mind regardless of how I spell it out.
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"Nah, it’s cause Man Utd fans are entitled. I refer back to my first post that you took exception to
Ok, in what way have United fans been entitled here?
If you’re seriously searching for the answer to this question then you’re part of the problem that exists with the Man Utd fan base.
Again, so vague. Do you only deal in sweeping statements or do you give examples once in a while to show you actually know something about football?
Buying a packet of panini stickers once in 2015 doesn’t make you the Fab footballing font of all knowledge. I’ll try and be a little less vague so you can digest what’s going wrong with your club.
Spending a £1 billion on a squad of players. Paying massive salaries for ‘big name superstars. Buying the most expensive players to make ‘a statement of intent’. Hiring the ‘best managers in the world’ at the time. Securing the most lucrative sponsorship deal in Footballing history. Building the biggest stadium in English club football. All to ensure you compete at the highest level of footballing competition and WIN THINGS. When this doesn’t happen and cracks start to appear you see mass walk outs during games by the deluded who think this will benefit the team playing in-front of an empty stadium. You’ve never had it so good and you’ve squandered it all away.
You talk about how Man Utd fans are not being entitled, you had it all and lost it and you’re now living off the scraps of your past success. Just because the above bought you success in past doesn’t mean it will guarantee success in the future. But all we hear about is Man Utd being a ‘massive’ club and ‘should’ be competing at the highest level.
If you can’t see this is entitlement then you’re part of the crumbling fabric that’s trying desperately to hold Old Trafford together
You've completely contradicted yourself here. You mention all the investment made in ensuring Man United remain one of the biggest clubs in the world and yet you call the fans entitled for expecting them to act like it?
The walkouts are because fans know the team doesn't care about the fans or the manager, hence getting 3 of them sacked and not showing fight or pride for the club. And it all starts at the top. We had one of the best stadiums in the world that's now rusting and leaking, we could sign the best players and not that allure is diminishing. If the club has the resources and riches it has, why shouldn't fans expect to compete at the very top? That is not entitlement.
No, your fans are walking out cause they’re fed up of being torn a new arsehole by teams like feel Brighton (insert any other team).
Why are they fed up? It’s because YOU STILL THINK YOURE A BIG CLUB because of the things I’ve mentioned above. This is entitlement.
As for your owners. It’s not your owners getting turned over week in and week out. They’ve provided you with a warchest that’s been the envy of most clubs. Your owners were the best thing that could’ve happened to your club when Mr Ferguson was in charge.
As I stated in my very first post. This is excellent reading. Please carry on
I'm done, I can't anymore. You're clearly letting your bias get in the way of having a sensible opinion that I'm not going to change your mind regardless of how I spell it out.
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"In the mid to latter years of SAF’s reign he had a coaching staff that developed players. Woodward allowed that staff to be discarded by Moyes and replaced by nonentities. Since then, each incoming manager got to do the same. Is it any wonder that there isn’t a cohesive style in the squad? Is it any wonder that I can’t think of a player that has come to United in the past five years and improved? Is it any wonder that the club that produced the Class of ‘92 is stagnant? Individual players can be blamed for their attitude and performance, but the root cause is the failures of successive managers to address the coaching issues. " That's one of the issues. There are a litany of issues all as big as eachother and have been ignored due to fergies last few years dragging results out. | |||
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"The worrying facts haven’t changed - other clubs are leaving them behind and there simply is not the same infrastructure as elite level clubs and facilities etc. Jose Mourinho was right when he said one of his biggest achievements was 2nd place and winning a trophy there." Almost as good as SAF winning the title in his final season. | |||
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"Big news that Glazers have softened thier stance on selling, part or whole. And that Sir Jim Ratcliffe IS interested! " If there is genuine interest, then I hope fans protest to the fucking heavens to get those leeches out ASAP. | |||
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"Big news that Glazers have softened thier stance on selling, part or whole. And that Sir Jim Ratcliffe IS interested! If there is genuine interest, then I hope fans protest to the fucking heavens to get those leeches out ASAP." Sky news giving more details, ex-united players will be involved, Dave brailsford. It's more than just a yeah I'd be interested. | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players." Over priced, hes 30. Hes getting easy payday. Joining Utd is a good move for him but Utd making same mistakes. Need to get some younger players in for the future. | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players." Another 2 decent players?! Hmmm... Probably need another 8 decent players. But that aside. Not sure he is a fit for united or ten haags stated development strategy.not of the right temperament for the prem. That said... Hes an improvement on mcfred. They'd have been better off giving Jack Wilshire a call though. | |||
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"Heard this morning that Chelsea could be in for maguire. Which would be great business for man utd. " Lol Had to check to make sure its not 1st April. Hope he never leaves Utd. | |||
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"Heard this morning that Chelsea could be in for maguire. Which would be great business for man utd. Lol Had to check to make sure its not 1st April. Hope he never leaves Utd. " No bs... https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12677099/chelsea-make-enquiry-to-sign-harry-maguire-from-manchester-united-paper-talk | |||
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"I've just read that Newcastle United and West Ham United are interested in signing Scott McTominay " McT is another of the enigma players. Loads of potential and commitment and then just fizzled out over the last two seasons. Wan Bisaka, not a scrap of improvement. Bruno, a shadow of the player he was when he arrived. Rashford, wtf happened? Maguire. The player whose name we won’t mention due to the ongoing police investigations. Tony Marshall, maybe this is his year but he should have delivered far more over the past two seasons. The list goes on and on. | |||
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"United fans also have forgotten the amount of times they turned up to Old Trafford (long journey from London) with 'Ferguson out' banners, he'd asked for 5 years to build a team and they struggled but he got there" | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players. Over priced, hes 30. Hes getting easy payday. Joining Utd is a good move for him but Utd making same mistakes. Need to get some younger players in for the future. " He's younger than van Dijk, de bruyne, Kyle walker, Gundogan... Same age as Mane, Son, Salah, Wilson... A year older than Kane, Zaha... | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players. Over priced, hes 30. Hes getting easy payday. Joining Utd is a good move for him but Utd making same mistakes. Need to get some younger players in for the future. He's younger than van Dijk, de bruyne, Kyle walker, Gundogan... Same age as Mane, Son, Salah, Wilson... A year older than Kane, Zaha..." I can’t believe De Bruyne is 31. Lucky bastard looks early 20’s. | |||
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"As I'm a huge liverpool fan I think it's a huge shame for them. They have to watch their 2 biggest rivals compete for the honours each season. The fans are loyal and I can't wait for them to get back to winning ways. Ynwa xxx " This is a really great post. Nice to see some camaraderie. And agreed, Man U doing badly is probably bad for English Football as a whole. G (DoI - half-arsed Palace supporter!) | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players. Over priced, hes 30. Hes getting easy payday. Joining Utd is a good move for him but Utd making same mistakes. Need to get some younger players in for the future. He's younger than van Dijk, de bruyne, Kyle walker, Gundogan... Same age as Mane, Son, Salah, Wilson... A year older than Kane, Zaha..." Those players you mentioned joined their teams a few years ago and had chance to adapt and improve and learn the league. Hes 30 moving to a new country, new players,manager and new league. Its about the money. | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high " Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.. | |||
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"The issues at Manchester United run deeper than 11 blokes running around the pitch. The owners are business people. When SAF retired the onus should of been to replace him with the next best manager, Pep. They didn’t do that and this is the result. Yes there has been bad performances but when you’ve had 4 different coaches in 5 years, all with different ideas, all with different styles, of course you will be slightly confused about how to do your job. The club needs a takeover, massive investment and it needs to find itself again. Manchester United hold the record for the most consecutive appearances but an academy player in the first team, and that is something to be proud of, they promote youth, does that hinder us, sometimes yes. But it’s our footballing philosophy " The academy doesn't seem to produce the type of players it used to. It's as if it'd have lost their identity of fast intense okay SAF created for the club. Imo pep would have been a bad choice. You'd be trying to create a very different style. A club should be bigger than the manager and you should get a manger to suit the club. | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.." the only way I can see cassemiro add value is if he can unlock Erikson who looks like he doesnt have a position yet. But as a player he feels like another slower player who won't create energy. Perhaps it's to add cover in front of McGuire. Aka Kante. | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.." What do you mean by consistent approach? | |||
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"What does everyone make of the Casemiro signing? Think it will help but still need another 2 decent players. Over priced, hes 30. Hes getting easy payday. Joining Utd is a good move for him but Utd making same mistakes. Need to get some younger players in for the future. He's younger than van Dijk, de bruyne, Kyle walker, Gundogan... Same age as Mane, Son, Salah, Wilson... A year older than Kane, Zaha... Those players you mentioned joined their teams a few years ago and had chance to adapt and improve and learn the league. Hes 30 moving to a new country, new players,manager and new league. Its about the money. " He is a world class CDM, the precise type of player we need. Forest just paid 45m for a championship player | |||
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"The issues at Manchester United run deeper than 11 blokes running around the pitch. The owners are business people. When SAF retired the onus should of been to replace him with the next best manager, Pep. They didn’t do that and this is the result. Yes there has been bad performances but when you’ve had 4 different coaches in 5 years, all with different ideas, all with different styles, of course you will be slightly confused about how to do your job. The club needs a takeover, massive investment and it needs to find itself again. Manchester United hold the record for the most consecutive appearances but an academy player in the first team, and that is something to be proud of, they promote youth, does that hinder us, sometimes yes. But it’s our footballing philosophy " "slightly confused about how to do your job" It's an easy game though, tackle the man with ball, pass to someone with the same colour shirt on... and many of the attributes require no skill whatsoever ... Like being coachable, putting in maximum effort. | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.. What do you mean by consistent approach? " They were a unit, not liked by some which is the way with success but you had to respect Ferguson for how they operated (I speak as a red from the western end of the 62).. Since then there's been too many aspects from managers to recruitment which have been below par for that club.. | |||
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"The issues at Manchester United run deeper than 11 blokes running around the pitch. The owners are business people. When SAF retired the onus should of been to replace him with the next best manager, Pep. They didn’t do that and this is the result. Yes there has been bad performances but when you’ve had 4 different coaches in 5 years, all with different ideas, all with different styles, of course you will be slightly confused about how to do your job. The club needs a takeover, massive investment and it needs to find itself again. Manchester United hold the record for the most consecutive appearances but an academy player in the first team, and that is something to be proud of, they promote youth, does that hinder us, sometimes yes. But it’s our footballing philosophy "slightly confused about how to do your job" It's an easy game though, tackle the man with ball, pass to someone with the same colour shirt on... and many of the attributes require no skill whatsoever ... Like being coachable, putting in maximum effort. " You actually used your time to construct that? | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.. What do you mean by consistent approach? They were a unit, not liked by some which is the way with success but you had to respect Ferguson for how they operated (I speak as a red from the western end of the 62).. Since then there's been too many aspects from managers to recruitment which have been below par for that club.. " We’re experiencing the cyclical nature of success. It took Liverpool a long time to get from their 18th to 19th league title. It may take us a while to get to our 21st. Meantime City are chasing No. 9. I’d back us to get our 21st before City get halfway there. (I wouldn’t back us to get to 21 before Liverpool unless you’re offering decent odds) | |||
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"Well and truly fucked .. hopefully Ronaldo gets out to end his career on a high Not many seem to want him, his wage demands look too high and if he's happy to play for much less then what team wants the potential disruption of a bloke past his prime and for whom it looks like he wants the team built around him.. I think they need to shunt him off but they tied that particular rod to their own back in what was a false dawn ploy for some of the fanbase.. Both him and now Cassemiro don't play the type of game ten Hag did at Ajax and how the rivals both domestically and in Europe are playing so not sure what's going on there, with Ferguson there was a consistent approach but since him they look like a club searching for something.. What do you mean by consistent approach? They were a unit, not liked by some which is the way with success but you had to respect Ferguson for how they operated (I speak as a red from the western end of the 62).. Since then there's been too many aspects from managers to recruitment which have been below par for that club.. We’re experiencing the cyclical nature of success. It took Liverpool a long time to get from their 18th to 19th league title. It may take us a while to get to our 21st. Meantime City are chasing No. 9. I’d back us to get our 21st before City get halfway there. (I wouldn’t back us to get to 21 before Liverpool unless you’re offering decent odds)" Make you right, it's a bit of a come down when a team has been so dominant in the league and Europe etc.. Not sure I agree on utd and city and league wins, I think the latter are more likely to be either top or not far behind for a cpl of years yet.. | |||
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"There going down the pan......flush They’re not. Regardless of Monday’s result. But it suits the agenda of all the green-eyed fans of other clubs who built up a level of resentment over the SAF glory years to revel in the travails that currently befall them. Oh what glorious times they were though. PL Champions three years in a row. Twice! That glorious treble. Four or five rebuilds across those seasons with homegrown players to the fore. I understand the envy" I have no skin in this game, but I suspect others are looking at utd, the way utd fans looked at Liverpool... Was that envy ? | |||
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"There going down the pan......flush They’re not. Regardless of Monday’s result. But it suits the agenda of all the green-eyed fans of other clubs who built up a level of resentment over the SAF glory years to revel in the travails that currently befall them. Oh what glorious times they were though. PL Champions three years in a row. Twice! That glorious treble. Four or five rebuilds across those seasons with homegrown players to the fore. I understand the envyI have no skin in this game, but I suspect others are looking at utd, the way utd fans looked at Liverpool... Was that envy ? " It wasn't just United fans that viewed Liverpool that way. The rivalry between them highlights the feelings though. But yes, the British public like to build people up, then enjoy their fall. | |||
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