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Would you DESTROY Your Pet if the government told you too ?
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By *ryan... OP Man
over a year ago
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...a little known part of world war 2 is,.
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at the beginning of the war..the government "advised" through all newspapers and broadcasts that due to possible food shortages and possibly bombings..your pets should be destroyed..
In the first week 750,000 pets were destroyed......
If we had to go to war today,with say Russia...
Would the same happen today.. 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you didn’t you can bet your bottom dollar that some neighbourhoods busybody would soon enough report you to the authorities.. the last few years have confirmed that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No I wouldn’t. Dogs, cats, rats, pigeons and any other animals can be trained to carry messages and do other useful jobs. Not that they’d get my pets to do any of that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you didn’t you can bet your bottom dollar that some neighbourhoods busybody would soon enough report you to the authorities.. the last few years have confirmed that"
Sadly I fear that you are right. |
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"If you didn’t you can bet your bottom dollar that some neighbourhoods busybody would soon enough report you to the authorities.. the last few years have confirmed that
Sadly I fear that you are right."
Unfortunately we live in that kind of word when people are encouraged to tell on their neighbours and some rejoice in that. Absolutely despicable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you didn’t you can bet your bottom dollar that some neighbourhoods busybody would soon enough report you to the authorities.. the last few years have confirmed that"
I'd just kill them then, make it look like suicide, they couldn't cope with going to war then steal all their food. |
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"No. We would happily share our own rations with the cats. Seriously when we were broke our cats ate first. Back in the day."
Been there, done that myself....only mine was for the most loyal loving staff.
Had him over 11 years...he was more or less a stray dog when he choose me for an owner  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No way at all...  I'd share my rations with her!! That must have been so painful for all those that destroyed their pets  "
Absolutely but in fairness nowhere near as many people and pets in the forties as they do now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you didn’t you can bet your bottom dollar that some neighbourhoods busybody would soon enough report you to the authorities.. the last few years have confirmed that
Sadly I fear that you are right.
Unfortunately we live in that kind of word when people are encouraged to tell on their neighbours and some rejoice in that. Absolutely despicable. "
Well yes of course people were telling on their neighbours during lockdown because people were terrified particularly at the beginning. Simple answer is if there is a law in place and you choose to break it expect to be caught! I hate comments like this as it's always the same it's other people's fault that they got caught rather than their own behaviour. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You've taken Tom and Tommed it right up to the max.
You've outTommed Tom.
Bravo, Bryan!
Either way you look at it, this is an absolute disgrace and no mistake. |
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And this thread explains perfectly why when people look back on the blitz spirit with pride as though it exemplifies something uniquely British they're wrong. It was a spirit of that era and in no way exists any more. We are all too individualistic and too used to having everything we want and when we want it.
During the 30's the country wasn't suffering the obesity epidemic it is now, the population didn't have 6 months of spare calories to fall back on and food was rationed. There were points when the arrival of a single convey was nearly all that stood between people getting their rations and literally starving. You only need to look at the tiny amount of food available per person to understand why there wasn't enough food (never mind energy, workers or fuel) to waste on pets when the result would have been starving humans.
It must have been a horrendous decision to make to take your beloved pet to the vets and watch them go and I can only admire the bravery of those prepared to do so. I hope that if I was ever in that desperately sad situation where I knew every bit of food I managed to scrounge for my dog was a bit of food that wasn't available for a hungry child I'd be prepared to make that sacrifice too- no matter how hard it was.
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Just to add, a quick Google shows 1.2 million tonnes of dog and cat food gets made and sold in the UK. That's several Atlantic convoys worth. Anyone who thinks that is OK for men to die in their thousands, running the risk of torpedoes and bombs to get food to a nation on its knees and on the brink of starvation for the people in that nation to give that food to cats and dogs has strange priorities.
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"I bet 80% of ppl would do it. Good example was covid and vaccine... people are so stupid and brainless these days"
Massive thread drift here...
Getting vaccinated against a virus that could kill you or had the potential to ruin your health until the end of your day's was brainless?
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Every single answer ( apart from 3 ) a low consciousness gut reaction based on emotion , bravado and public perception.
Don't know why everyone didn't finish off with little animal emoji's and lot's of hearts and kisses.
People who buy their dogs ear muffs for bonfire night professing they'd let their pet live through blitz and fire or watch their child cry with hunger whilst making sure the cat is fed....
Daft as brushes.
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By *yron69Man
over a year ago
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The Soviets trained dogs in 1941 to get food from under tanks with the engines running.
Then they strapped mines with a detonator on them to the backs of the dogs.
Then they said "Fido look a panzer.."
Boom! Up goes Jerry in his smart little tank.
However some dogs ran under the Soviet tanks instead sending Ivan and co up in the air too. So ended this particular period of pets at war ...
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"Id set up an underground resistance for smuggling in danger pets out of the country… someone mentioned people that would grass others with pets up to the authorities… they’d only do it once  "
Me? I'd pay for a plane to bring my cuddlies home while I left the people behind. All heart me. |
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"Id set up an underground resistance for smuggling in danger pets out of the country… someone mentioned people that would grass others with pets up to the authorities… they’d only do it once
Me? I'd pay for a plane to bring my cuddlies home while I left the people behind. All heart me. "
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It's strange how people choose the most extreme examples to demonstrate a point. The op mentioned possible shortages, not children starving and such like. Who knows what anyone would do in rhe most extreme of circumstances. I still stand by my belief that I could not possibly see my pets starve or destroy them. How can anyone prejudge such a situation? I need to learn not to participate in such posts.  |
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"It's strange how people choose the most extreme examples to demonstrate a point. The op mentioned possible shortages, not children starving and such like. Who knows what anyone would do in rhe most extreme of circumstances. I still stand by my belief that I could not possibly see my pets starve or destroy them. How can anyone prejudge such a situation? I need to learn not to participate in such posts. "
The OP clearly stated this was what happened in WW2. Even the most cursory knowledge of history would tell you this wasn't a time of "possible shortages". At that time the country was on the brink of being starved into surrender, it was only being kept going by convoys risking the Atlantic crossing. Convoys where thousands of men sacrificed their lives to get food and supplies to a starving nation being battered perilously close to surrender.
This was the reason the government made this request, it wasn't an off the cuff whim. The OP has asked who would do this faced with a similar situation. It seems highly unlikely that the government would make this kind of request unless (as then) there was a genuine risk to people's lives. In those circumstances anyone putting the life of their dog before that of human beings (which includes kids) needs to give their head a wobble.
The issue is we only see our own little world and think 'what possible difference does it make if I slip Fido a bone and a bit of food?' As above, pet food in this country runs over a million tonnes. That's not just a huge amount of food it's thousands of man hours, huge amounts of gas/electric and road traffic - all to feed pets. At the time this request was being made, people were cutting up their front railings to supply enough steel for planes and guns and yet most in this thread would rather see thousands of tonnes of desperately needed steel wrapped up in equipment needed to feed their pets.
The issue isn't people making up the most extreme examples, it's that most people haven't the first clue just how extreme the conditions were that caused the request the OP is talking about.
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"It's strange how people choose the most extreme examples to demonstrate a point. The op mentioned possible shortages, not children starving and such like. Who knows what anyone would do in rhe most extreme of circumstances. I still stand by my belief that I could not possibly see my pets starve or destroy them. How can anyone prejudge such a situation? I need to learn not to participate in such posts.
The OP clearly stated this was what happened in WW2. Even the most cursory knowledge of history would tell you this wasn't a time of "possible shortages". At that time the country was on the brink of being starved into surrender, it was only being kept going by convoys risking the Atlantic crossing. Convoys where thousands of men sacrificed their lives to get food and supplies to a starving nation being battered perilously close to surrender.
This was the reason the government made this request, it wasn't an off the cuff whim. The OP has asked who would do this faced with a similar situation. It seems highly unlikely that the government would make this kind of request unless (as then) there was a genuine risk to people's lives. In those circumstances anyone putting the life of their dog before that of human beings (which includes kids) needs to give their head a wobble.
The issue is we only see our own little world and think 'what possible difference does it make if I slip Fido a bone and a bit of food?' As above, pet food in this country runs over a million tonnes. That's not just a huge amount of food it's thousands of man hours, huge amounts of gas/electric and road traffic - all to feed pets. At the time this request was being made, people were cutting up their front railings to supply enough steel for planes and guns and yet most in this thread would rather see thousands of tonnes of desperately needed steel wrapped up in equipment needed to feed their pets.
The issue isn't people making up the most extreme examples, it's that most people haven't the first clue just how extreme the conditions were that caused the request the OP is talking about.
Mr"
Thanks for the lecture which you obviously felt was necessary, so be it. I am well versed in history. My point was nobody really knows what they will do in extreme situations until are faced with that. Please don't feel inclined to reply again, I am not one of those that feel necessary to dominate with their answers. I just offer an opinion which quite happily accept will differ from that of others so will not engage further with you or indeed with this thread that in hindsight I find a tad pointless |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's an irrelevant question really. The way War was fought was very different in WW2 to what it would be now.
I would not follow any order to get rid of my pets....
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Not a chance.
But I'd destroy the government if my pet told me to  "
My dogs have already suggested that several times in the last few years......
And the cat wants a job at No.10
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By *ryan... OP Man
over a year ago
1950's Original |
"Not a chance.
But I'd destroy the government if my pet told me to
My dogs have already suggested that several times in the last few years......
And the cat wants a job at No.10
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I think that position is taken..
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