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over a year ago
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So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No idea where you’d rand with hours but I wouldn’t leave my job unless it was for a permanent contract elsewhere on the same or more money. It’s too risky at the minute. |
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really "
Check your contract before you do anything. If you like your job and it's possible to negotiate back to acceptable working stick with it. If not the job market is excellent currently but and it's a huge consideration there's a recession on the way and new people in jobs tend to be first considered for redundancy although it isn't acceptable practice |
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By *lynJMan
over a year ago
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really "
All the work contracts I've ever had have had similar clauses. I'm not sure I've ever worked a week where I haven't done more hours than the contract; it just came with the territory. Maybe not up to 65 hours but I have done weekend working too.
You have to decide if it's a job you enjoy or whether you need a change. What is the job market like at the moment for your discipline? If it's good, you could start looking but with no pressure to change. Find the right job for you, not just any job to get away from your current job. |
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really "
Are you salaried ie you're paid for the job rather than the hours worked? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really
Are you salaried ie you're paid for the job rather than the hours worked?"
I am salaried |
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really
Are you salaried ie you're paid for the job rather than the hours worked?
I am salaried "
Would they be open to discussing things? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really
Are you salaried ie you're paid for the job rather than the hours worked?
I am salaried
Would they be open to discussing things? "
They promise talk of changes. Overtime and better hours yet it doesn’t happen |
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"I'd say if you're asking the question then it's probably time to move one.
Doesn't hurt to start looking anyway.
What would make you happy?
What is worth your time?
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I meant to say move on - not move one  |
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You don't sign in to the working time directive you opt out of it so if you are regularly working over this then your employer is at fault.
I find it odd that your contract allows them to simply pile additional hours on you like that.
Personally I'd speak to acas about my hours etc if I liked the actual job. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"So here’s the dilemma.
At what point do you realise it’s time for a job change?
Is it daft to walk away from the current job in the economic climate.
I am contracted to 40 hours per week but end up working over 55. Sometimes near 65. This is unpaid and no time off in lieu.
However there’s the line in my contract which says something like “and any other hours deemed by the company”
I have not signed the 48 hour working week thing so unsure where I stand really
Are you salaried ie you're paid for the job rather than the hours worked?
I am salaried
Would they be open to discussing things?
They promise talk of changes. Overtime and better hours yet it doesn’t happen"
Put a request in writing for a meeting with your line manager detailing the issues and the points you'd like addressed and copy in the HR manager so it's all documented.
Wait for the reply.
If a meeting happens its your chance to get something done to either reduce hours or arrange some form of compensation.
If a meeting doesn't happen send the email again. Copy up the food chain as high as you can making reference to the original request.
If you still have no joy get legal advice and try once more.
If the company values you as an employee they should act on the first email. If not......time to look elsewhere.
Employment law is pretty cut and dried and whilst the clauses you've described are common re extra hours, they're meant to be the exception rather than the norm.
But some business will take the piss for as long as you let them. Its no use just talking to someone. You need to document everything - hours worked, times you've raised the issue before and who you've spoken to.
Good luck.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The second you start asking this question, you have already made up your mind. It's just when you actually do it that needs considering. Personally I wouldn't leave my job until I had another in place especially with what's going on in the world right now. That being said, we spend most of our lives at work so it's important it doesn't make us miserable. |
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