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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Nope... I don't watch TV!"
Good point I don’t watch much but I don’t eat veggies at all and it seems to be taking over in food shops now too actually had someone question didnt I feel bad for eating a big steak ffs |
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??"
Yes... And the fact that it's by definition "good" for the planet and "healthy" for us.
Presumably it's raw materials, manufacture and distribution runs on thin air. |
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Only because of the lies that come with it..
Many say they're less polluting to the environment,but they only calculate the carbon from the finished product,so factory to shop..Not all the farming and importing ingredients from around the world |
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Been veggie almost 40 years so I do find it rather amusing that the youngsters on this think they’re somehow really innovative and also somehow better than the rest of us!
Not eating ANY veggies is not good for you at all though. Balance is the key. |
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"Been veggie almost 40 years so I do find it rather amusing that the youngsters on this think they’re somehow really innovative and also somehow better than the rest of us!
Not eating ANY veggies is not good for you at all though. Balance is the key. "
Yes but I can’t eat them never have |
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I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen |
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I like my meats, and don’t get me wrong, but I also eat veg etc. I’d never say never but it’s only the same as having fast food outlets shoved in your face.
I mean, look at the flip side, and say you were a vegetarian or vegan…there aren’t a lot of adverts or outlets out there, yet everywhere you look, there is meat being shoved in your face.
Personally I think it’s good to have options  |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen "
In the pathetic whiney sincere voice..
"Save the planet for me mummy" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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By plant based, I assume they are also refering to nuts, pulses, legumes ect...not just vegetables. Man could not survive on only vegetables, so it's a bit of an ill-informed person who thinks that Vegans/Vegetarians only eat vegetables....
The meat I am really against being eaten is lamb.... people coo at the cute little lambs then a few months later gobble them up....saw this on Clarksons farm....
I am not a Vegetarian btw .. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
In the pathetic whiney sincere voice..
"Save the planet for me mummy" "
It reminds me of those women on social media who claim their two year olds have made profound statements about racism, climate change and social problems. They haven't, you're using your kid to promote your own agenda, you're fooling nobody |
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"By plant based, I assume they are also refering to nuts, pulses, legumes ect...not just vegetables. Man could not survive on only vegetables, so it's a bit of an ill-informed person who thinks that Vegans/Vegetarians only eat vegetables....
The meat I am really against being eaten is lamb.... people coo at the cute little lambs then a few months later gobble them up....saw this on Clarksons farm....
I am not a Vegetarian btw .."
Weird how different people have different perspectives. Lamb which is what 5 months old ish when culled. A battery chicken can be 2 months old. Both have short life spans one is in a field another in a cage. I know which I'd rather be if I believed in reincarnation. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
In the pathetic whiney sincere voice..
"Save the planet for me mummy"
It reminds me of those women on social media who claim their two year olds have made profound statements about racism, climate change and social problems. They haven't, you're using your kid to promote your own agenda, you're fooling nobody "
Unfortunately they fool a lot of folks... Same as the pictures of those deep and meaningful poems or letters that are written apparently by 5 year olds including words like sustainability, poverty, forgiveness and entirely legible etc... Yep |
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By *rg4Man
over a year ago
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"By plant based, I assume they are also refering to nuts, pulses, legumes ect...not just vegetables. Man could not survive on only vegetables, so it's a bit of an ill-informed person who thinks that Vegans/Vegetarians only eat vegetables....
The meat I am really against being eaten is lamb.... people coo at the cute little lambs then a few months later gobble them up....saw this on Clarksons farm....
I am not a Vegetarian btw ..
Weird how different people have different perspectives. Lamb which is what 5 months old ish when culled. A battery chicken can be 2 months old. Both have short life spans one is in a field another in a cage. I know which I'd rather be if I believed in reincarnation. "
Wow what a way to bring the mood down   |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen "
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me. |
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"By plant based, I assume they are also refering to nuts, pulses, legumes ect...not just vegetables. Man could not survive on only vegetables, so it's a bit of an ill-informed person who thinks that Vegans/Vegetarians only eat vegetables....
The meat I am really against being eaten is lamb.... people coo at the cute little lambs then a few months later gobble them up....saw this on Clarksons farm....
I am not a Vegetarian btw ..
Weird how different people have different perspectives. Lamb which is what 5 months old ish when culled. A battery chicken can be 2 months old. Both have short life spans one is in a field another in a cage. I know which I'd rather be if I believed in reincarnation.
Wow what a way to bring the mood down "
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"By plant based, I assume they are also refering to nuts, pulses, legumes ect...not just vegetables. Man could not survive on only vegetables, so it's a bit of an ill-informed person who thinks that Vegans/Vegetarians only eat vegetables....
The meat I am really against being eaten is lamb.... people coo at the cute little lambs then a few months later gobble them up....saw this on Clarksons farm....
I am not a Vegetarian btw ..
Weird how different people have different perspectives. Lamb which is what 5 months old ish when culled. A battery chicken can be 2 months old. Both have short life spans one is in a field another in a cage. I know which I'd rather be if I believed in reincarnation. "
And that's a good point. I think generally we are not well enough informed about our food chain and what we eat. But the current plant epidemic is only because it can be branded and monetised. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me. "
Virtue signalling at its finest. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest. "
Not you, Birdseye I mean  |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
Not you, Birdseye I mean "
I knew what you meant
Put yeah these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible. |
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??"
Not really. I'm sure vegans and vegetarians are sick of meat based foods being pushed in their faces as well. |
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If you're aware of the clinate catastrophe that we have caused, you'll surely know that a reduction of our meat products production and consumption, would the a key way for us to educate our further damaging impacts on the world, including the lives of billions of people. A win for everyone.
I've not seen the shows. But I'm happy it's being discussed. If some people are encouraged by any ovdrall healthier foods, to switch from neet to veg, that's a good transitional step. Less highly procesded food is best. |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??"
No not at all I like eating PB
Prevents me eating dead animals |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??
Not really. I'm sure vegans and vegetarians are sick of meat based foods being pushed in their faces as well. "
This exactly |
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By *tooveMan
over a year ago
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Rarely watch TV so not noticed but have cut down to only eating meat on a Saturday and Sunday.
Problem is I don't like many vegetables so living on beans, onion rings and chips.
Need to start looking for other stuff. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??
Yes... And the fact that it's by definition "good" for the planet and "healthy" for us.
Presumably it's raw materials, manufacture and distribution runs on thin air."
Literally no-one is saying a vegan sausage is less manufactured than a pork sausage but it will almost certainly be lower in fat and lower overall carbon footprint.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
Not you, Birdseye I mean
I knew what you meant
Put yeah these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible. "
If there is a demand they'll make it. If they make it they'll want to promote it. Simple economics, there's a lot of PB products out there. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
Not you, Birdseye I mean
I knew what you meant
Put yeah these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible.
If there is a demand they'll make it. If they make it they'll want to promote it. Simple economics, there's a lot of PB products out there."
It's how Birdseye in particular are promoting it that I take issue with |
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What’s amusing is all this plant vegan stuff tries to ride off meat based foods names  quite comical imo
Plant hamburger I saw recently
 made me chuckle I asked the shop why not give it a unique name. Was told it’s simply easier to try leech off existing known types |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Eat vegetables and meat also occasionally vegan meals. I’m not giving up meat but agree not keen on the way media trying to make us feel guilty. "
Which ones in particular? |
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Just another bandwagon to jump on and big companies try and sell it as the next big thing, if they thought they could sell you fresh air in a bottle they would come up with a way of selling it to us.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What’s amusing is all this plant vegan stuff tries to ride off meat based foods names quite comical imo
Plant hamburger I saw recently
made me chuckle I asked the shop why not give it a unique name. Was told it’s simply easier to try leech off existing known types "
It’s hardly surprising since it’s a non meat version of an existing product! And hamburgers aren’t made of ham either so maybe meat burgers shouldn’t be called hamburgers either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My life is pretty straightforward, I ignore the telly box, I eat food I like the taste of. If it happens to be ‘better’ for the planet (whatever that means)…..bonus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My life is pretty straightforward, I ignore the telly box, I eat food I like the taste of. If it happens to be ‘better’ for the planet (whatever that means)…..bonus. "
A nice, balanced view. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What’s amusing is all this plant vegan stuff tries to ride off meat based foods names quite comical imo
Plant hamburger I saw recently
made me chuckle I asked the shop why not give it a unique name. Was told it’s simply easier to try leech off existing known types
It’s hardly surprising since it’s a non meat version of an existing product! And hamburgers aren’t made of ham either so maybe meat burgers shouldn’t be called hamburgers either."
They're named after people of the German city Hamburg. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"My life is pretty straightforward, I ignore the telly box, I eat food I like the taste of. If it happens to be ‘better’ for the planet (whatever that means)…..bonus.
A nice, balanced view. "
That’s me summed up.
There’s too much antagonistic vitriol from both sides of the fence. I can’t be arsed to get involved in that shit. I love splinters in ma bum from sitting on the fence. |
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
Not you, Birdseye I mean
I knew what you meant
Put yeah these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible.
If there is a demand they'll make it. If they make it they'll want to promote it. Simple economics, there's a lot of PB products out there."
Well yes that was my last comment wasn't it? It's more the fact that Birdseye is on one hand telling us via a cartoon of a child "is it because you're afraid of change" to promote plant based foods. When good old captain Birdseye has been selling us fishfingers for decades. Which as I said previously "these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible"
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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago
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Not getting sick of the adverts, because I don't really have them in my life.
And I don't object to the plant based products. If that's what people want, rock on.
I object to people shoving their veganism/plant based diet in my face, same as I objected to vegetarians doing it when I was younger.
I also object to the obsessiveness with which some people go on and on about the benefits of a plant based diet and how I wouldn't know the difference between "x" and "plant based x". If I want "x" I want "x".
But it's great that it is easier now for people to eat what they want and live the life they choose. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm getting a bit fed up of them using children to manipulate us. That one about "is it because you're afraid of change". Precocious little cartoon, bossy boots. It makes me less inclined to listen
I dislike this advert so much. Surely it puts off more people than it persuades. And it's a Birdseye advert it's not like they're a plant based company. Makes no sense to me.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
Not you, Birdseye I mean
I knew what you meant
Put yeah these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible.
If there is a demand they'll make it. If they make it they'll want to promote it. Simple economics, there's a lot of PB products out there.
Well yes that was my last comment wasn't it? It's more the fact that Birdseye is on one hand telling us via a cartoon of a child "is it because you're afraid of change" to promote plant based foods. When good old captain Birdseye has been selling us fishfingers for decades. Which as I said previously "these big companies are just looking for profit by any means possible"
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But at no point are they suggesting they haven't. All companies are there to make profit, I have no problem that they have got to their size by decimating the oceans. |
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"I enjoy eating a few vegetables but like a bit of meat as well, cows pigs vegans chickens & sheep would have no life at all if we did not eat them "
You eat vegans ? I suppose that counts as both meat and vegetables. |
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"If you're aware of the clinate catastrophe that we have caused, you'll surely know that a reduction of our meat products production and consumption, would the a key way for us to educate our further damaging impacts on the world, including the lives of billions of people. A win for everyone.
I've not seen the shows. But I'm happy it's being discussed. If some people are encouraged by any ovdrall healthier foods, to switch from neet to veg, that's a good transitional step. Less highly procesded food is best. "
Your wasting your breath here, hun. |
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"I'm well aware of the need to reduce our meat consumption for ecological and animal welfare reasons. What I don't like is the way its presented in some cases. "
Meh... Even that though is presented in a disingenuous way... I mean how much exactly is the impact of meat and how much of our new plant based Replacements? And compare thta with for example the industrial output of China, shipping, air travel, concrete production.
Doing something better is still better. But let's not delude ourselves where the problem really lies. |
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??
Yes... And the fact that it's by definition "good" for the planet and "healthy" for us.
Presumably it's raw materials, manufacture and distribution runs on thin air.
Literally no-one is saying a vegan sausage is less manufactured than a pork sausage but it will almost certainly be lower in fat and lower overall carbon footprint.
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You know this how? |
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"Just another bandwagon to jump on and big companies try and sell it as the next big thing, if they thought they could sell you fresh air in a bottle they would come up with a way of selling it to us.
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Well they do it with water and we lap that up |
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This is very topical at our house at the mo. I'm a meat eater, wife and daughter were, but have decided not to be any more. For most of our married life she mainly stuck to white meat anyway; and she still eats fish.
So by default, I am eating far less meat (I had a ribeye earlier) and am not missing it particularly. Richmond plant sausage are in my view as good as the meat ones, happy days. I make a great burger from black beans, and there's no lips or arse in it.
The rub, as reflected in the thread, is the non pragmatic attitudes of the zealots on either side. My two eat the gravy I make on Sunday- if we are invited for Sunday lunch, they have 'Sunday lunch', but without the meat. The people we know aren't offended; and at a restaurant in a gang, they have the meat and pass it to the gannets. Pragmatic.
If we have a veggie or vegan guest, we provide for them- as we would have a range of soft drinks for any teetotals or drivers. Pragmatic and polite.
I worry for them about the extent to which vegan stuff is ultra processed- filled with shit, in other words. I am zealous about that, so I look for recipes from source ingredients...
It's about balance. Ss for it in my face- yeah the patronising ad with the kid is a pain, but I can't think of another one.
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"This is very topical at our house at the mo. I'm a meat eater, wife and daughter were, but have decided not to be any more. For most of our married life she mainly stuck to white meat anyway; and she still eats fish.
So by default, I am eating far less meat (I had a ribeye earlier) and am not missing it particularly. Richmond plant sausage are in my view as good as the meat ones, happy days. I make a great burger from black beans, and there's no lips or arse in it.
The rub, as reflected in the thread, is the non pragmatic attitudes of the zealots on either side. My two eat the gravy I make on Sunday- if we are invited for Sunday lunch, they have 'Sunday lunch', but without the meat. The people we know aren't offended; and at a restaurant in a gang, they have the meat and pass it to the gannets. Pragmatic.
If we have a veggie or vegan guest, we provide for them- as we would have a range of soft drinks for any teetotals or drivers. Pragmatic and polite.
I worry for them about the extent to which vegan stuff is ultra processed- filled with shit, in other words. I am zealous about that, so I look for recipes from source ingredients...
It's about balance. Ss for it in my face- yeah the patronising ad with the kid is a pain, but I can't think of another one.
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Good stuff. It's a good debate. I don't like the it's better for you because it's not meat narrative when like you... Let's see what chemicals are put into beetroot burgers to make them delicious.
We are long long overdue a proper debate on what and how much we eat in this country. Maybe this will help.
Riddle me this though.... Why are they so expensive? A few processed legumes and nuts in a cardboard box.... 2.50 gbp. Whaaat! |
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"Are Haribos plant based?
I'm pretty sure they've all got gelatine in them ..I know the sour mix has beef gelatine in them.. unless it's changed.."
Didnt they do away with all that after the bse scare? |
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Whats the big deal? Its not like anything is being taken away from you. Youre just being offered more choices. Surely more is better than less?
I'm guessing that most of the people who complain about vegetarian food adverts, would also be offended by vegetarians complaining about meat advertising. 99% of adverts have no relevance to me so I just ignore them. It seems pretty sad to get offended by a food advert, lol!
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"Whats the big deal? Its not like anything is being taken away from you. Youre just being offered more choices. Surely more is better than less?
I'm guessing that most of the people who complain about vegetarian food adverts, would also be offended by vegetarians complaining about meat advertising. 99% of adverts have no relevance to me so I just ignore them. It seems pretty sad to get offended by a food advert, lol!
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??"
I don’t watch TV but am fed up of seeing shelves of plant this plant that you can even have chicken nuggets that contain no chicken…. . Even noticed today that my favourite gravy (chicken) is vegan! If people want to eat plants and nuts etc that’s fine but don’t put it in peoples faces who are happy with the omnivore diet. I have friends who are vegetarian but I don’t personally know anyone who is vegan. |
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"Whats the big deal? Its not like anything is being taken away from you. Youre just being offered more choices. Surely more is better than less?
I'm guessing that most of the people who complain about vegetarian food adverts, would also be offended by vegetarians complaining about meat advertising. 99% of adverts have no relevance to me so I just ignore them. It seems pretty sad to get offended by a food advert, lol!
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Agree with the whole of my (plantbased) heart |
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"Are Haribos plant based?
I'm pretty sure they've all got gelatine in them ..I know the sour mix has beef gelatine in them.. unless it's changed..
Didnt they do away with all that after the bse scare? "
They use pork gelatin now |
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"Whats the big deal? Its not like anything is being taken away from you. Youre just being offered more choices. Surely more is better than less?
I'm guessing that most of the people who complain about vegetarian food adverts, would also be offended by vegetarians complaining about meat advertising. 99% of adverts have no relevance to me so I just ignore them. It seems pretty sad to get offended by a food advert, lol!
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Nah I just dislike one plant based advert. Nothing more nothing less. It's a discussion on a forum, why is everything so polarised and no room for a debate these days? As I was mentioning to another forumite the other day, food production needs to be looked at no question about it. But entrenched views leads to nothing changing. Debate is good, it's how we learn about different perspectives and learn and maybe change our opinions. |
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"Whats the big deal? Its not like anything is being taken away from you. Youre just being offered more choices. Surely more is better than less?
I'm guessing that most of the people who complain about vegetarian food adverts, would also be offended by vegetarians complaining about meat advertising. 99% of adverts have no relevance to me so I just ignore them. It seems pretty sad to get offended by a food advert, lol!
Nah I just dislike one plant based advert. Nothing more nothing less. It's a discussion on a forum, why is everything so polarised and no room for a debate these days? As I was mentioning to another forumite the other day, food production needs to be looked at no question about it. But entrenched views leads to nothing changing. Debate is good, it's how we learn about different perspectives and learn and maybe change our opinions. "
I totaly agree that discussion and debate is good. That's why I asked questions, and also gave my own opinions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??"
like it or not its the future of food meat will slowly become less and less because of climate change so meat will become very expensive ...
just because its on tv dont mean it forcing you ? its the fastest growing section in food vegi and vegan in 10 years time will be the norm for millions more people its thier choice just as it is yours to eat meat |
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By *riel13Woman
over a year ago
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"Nope... I don't watch TV!"
Same here mostly... But... I am all for cooking shows doing vegan stuff... The meat replacement stuff is still fucking over processed, junk food and no bloody good for you! |
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Is anyone else getting sick of these being pushed at ever chance from tv adverts to cooking shows to news and current affairs shows ??
Yes... And the fact that it's by definition "good" for the planet and "healthy" for us.
Presumably it's raw materials, manufacture and distribution runs on thin air."
Yeah, cos rice and tea doesn't travel a 1/4 of the way around the world.
Avacado is'nt perfect either. |
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Yes hate the ads
I'm allergic to allium the onion family find me a plan based food with out it in?
I love a stake pie but these days even the gravy has onion or garlic in it so I stick to what I'm OK with.
Am I afraid of change he'll yes |
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By *eisty LadyWoman
over a year ago
Count Your Blessings Cottage, Gratitude Grove |
I’m sick of having a pee at service stations and seeing some face or other on a poster staring at me saying ‘be kind to staff’ or a little African girl who doesn’t have any sanitary products so has to go live in a bit on the mountains for a week every month (that actually does sound appealing).
Really! Can’t I just have a piss in peace?! |
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On the basis that vegetables, fruit, nuts, pulses and fungi are all plants, I eat quite a lot of plant based foods. But I do generally buy them in the form of the original plants, and if I want to make something out of them I make it myself. If nothing else, its hugely cheaper than paying for someone else to have chopped, mixed and par-cooked the plants... |
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"On the basis that vegetables, fruit, nuts, pulses and fungi are all plants, I eat quite a lot of plant based foods. But I do generally buy them in the form of the original plants, and if I want to make something out of them I make it myself. If nothing else, its hugely cheaper than paying for someone else to have chopped, mixed and par-cooked the plants..."
Kind of like my husband and I. We hunt take 4 deer deep freeze them make the delii things we enjoy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Show me plant based food, and I’ll show you something I can’t eat.
Show me veg that’s been on sale for years…. And I’ll cook you a lovely vegetarian dish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm well aware of the need to reduce our meat consumption for ecological and animal welfare reasons. What I don't like is the way its presented in some cases.
Meh... Even that though is presented in a disingenuous way... I mean how much exactly is the impact of meat and how much of our new plant based Replacements? And compare thta with for example the industrial output of China, shipping, air travel, concrete production.
Doing something better is still better. But let's not delude ourselves where the problem really lies. "
Most of China's industrial output is for Western world. The buck has to stop with the consumer. |
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"On the basis that vegetables, fruit, nuts, pulses and fungi are all plants, I eat quite a lot of plant based foods. But I do generally buy them in the form of the original plants, and if I want to make something out of them I make it myself. If nothing else, its hugely cheaper than paying for someone else to have chopped, mixed and par-cooked the plants..."
Technically fungi are not plants |
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"I'm well aware of the need to reduce our meat consumption for ecological and animal welfare reasons. What I don't like is the way its presented in some cases.
Meh... Even that though is presented in a disingenuous way... I mean how much exactly is the impact of meat and how much of our new plant based Replacements? And compare thta with for example the industrial output of China, shipping, air travel, concrete production.
Doing something better is still better. But let's not delude ourselves where the problem really lies.
Most of China's industrial output is for Western world. The buck has to stop with the consumer."
Quite. This is such a weak argument. |
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"On the basis that vegetables, fruit, nuts, pulses and fungi are all plants, I eat quite a lot of plant based foods. But I do generally buy them in the form of the original plants, and if I want to make something out of them I make it myself. If nothing else, its hugely cheaper than paying for someone else to have chopped, mixed and par-cooked the plants...
Technically fungi are not plants"
They do kind of grow in the ground though. Mind you, I suppose that would cover worms as well. Fungi don't wriggle and move around on their own? Is it necessary to do the photosynthesis thing to qualify as being a plant? |
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"I'm well aware of the need to reduce our meat consumption for ecological and animal welfare reasons. What I don't like is the way its presented in some cases.
Meh... Even that though is presented in a disingenuous way... I mean how much exactly is the impact of meat and how much of our new plant based Replacements? And compare thta with for example the industrial output of China, shipping, air travel, concrete production.
Doing something better is still better. But let's not delude ourselves where the problem really lies.
Most of China's industrial output is for Western world. The buck has to stop with the consumer."
Exactly. Stop buying the fucking stuff. Or buy local. |
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