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Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)? |
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By *ase4122Man
over a year ago
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?"
This boils my piss, it's like all the pets bought in lockdown, can't look after them now they are back at work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not saying you’re wrong, but I’ve had mine over 8 years. A lot can change in that time. If I couldn’t afford to feed him, what should I do?
Find him a good home where he will be cared for…? Or starve him (not going to happen, but just giving an alternative pov). |
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over a year ago
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I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not the owners fault they can’t keep them now when maybe they could keep them in the past
Also isn’t it better to give them up so they can be re homed or what ever
Than have people ither neglect them by not feeding them much or slipping on health care
Or worse yet just throwing them to the Kirb and realise them in to the wild to fend for them selfs
Give them to a shelter or a re home place is the lesser off all evils so people shouldn’t be punished for that |
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"Not saying you’re wrong, but I’ve had mine over 8 years. A lot can change in that time. If I couldn’t afford to feed him, what should I do?
Find him a good home where he will be cared for…? Or starve him (not going to happen, but just giving an alternative pov)."
Yeah, I do understand what you mean. A home that can look after them properly, if you’re unable too.
If people feel that financially pressured it’s deeply sad, as to me it’s akin to being forced to give up on a family member. |
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over a year ago
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Can’t be too holier than thou on this one.
If you can’t afford your car you get rid.
If you can’t afford your 5* hotel habit you get rid.
If the choice is between feeding your kids and feeding your cats, then the cats dip out.
It’s crap and horrible and far from what anyone wants to do, but it is reality and sneering at those who are in such a situation doesn’t help. |
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Generally I would say no as I could not imagine doing it myself. However sometimes circumstances are as such that might be necessary and better for the pet as long as its done in the right manner. Yes, everyone should think carefully before going for a pet. It's a commitment not to be taken likely. |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box"
Definitely something I’d not considered as lucky enough not to rent (luck mostly being it’s cheaper not to have to). That sucks. Another way landlords convenience/priorities screw over people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some people are fucktards that have zero responsibility and frankly, shouldn't be allowed the responsibility of choosing dishwasher tablets or pods, let alone caring for a living breathing creature.
Some people, circumstances change, and with rising costs in food, energy, wage stagnation and inflation people are feeling the pinch. To recognise ones inability to provide the correct standard of care, and rehome a loved one must be gut wrenching, and it is, I had to but not because of finances, more personality clashes amongst the pack. And it fucking sucked.
But that moral honesty and responsibility, putting the animals welfare first, should be applauded.
Twats that change pets more often than their underwear, the can be hoofed off a cliff, spartan style. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My local charities are overrun... Many of them are small independents run by passionate /caring people. Animal rescue completely takes over their life - you can't imagine the hate and threats they receive when they are full, including death threat their phone NEVER stops ringing - it takes a major toll on their health +wellbeing, not to mention their finances
Maybe we should eat the surplus pets?? |
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"Can’t be too holier than thou on this one.
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It’s crap and horrible and far from what anyone wants to do, but it is reality and sneering at those who are in such a situation doesn’t help. "
I’m not sneering at anyone, and your examples are all material things. Animals are living, breathing creatures that people choose to add into their families and make a commitment to.
I understand your broader point but the materialistic examples do not make sense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is a hard one to answer, mainly because everyone’s situation is different and there are so many influencing factors which can cause someone to think about giving up a pet.
I would like to think I’d never give up any of my pets, but if my situation changed and I had to choose between keeping my pets and us bother going through hardship and by hardship I mean loosing housing or not being able to afford food for either of us, or finding them a loving home which can provide for them, it would be the hardest decision of my life but one I would have to seriously consider.
However, it does anger me to hear stories about why some dogs are given up for adoption, our rescue dog when I was a kid was put up for adoption because the owners didn’t like black hair on their cream carpets and furniture.
Two extremes I know, but both reasons which we don’t always see from the outside of the situation. |
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I can't imagine a time when I'd give up a pet but if I had no money what could I do?
People are having to make very tough decisions and give up a lot of things that cost money including food and heating. If they are giving a pet up in the best interests of the animal (and I honestly can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be) I don't think they should be criticised |
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?"
First off, it’s illegal just abandon/dump your pet somewhere. Yes the cost of living has risen, but how is it those with jobs suddenly can’t afford to feed their pets? And before anyone says that these people might be on benefits, in that respect nothing has changed. I’m on benefits, my benefits were never late during lockdown, I received them on time every 2 weeks. I have two cats, both at a private vet (they were at the PDSA but they got greedy & changed their policy)
It’s more likely that the pets being given up were “lockdown” pets & more specifically dogs. People are now realising that they don’t have time for a dog in their busy life style, it was fine when they were on furlough with time on their hands but not now that life is returning to normal. Puppy & kitten prices shot up during lockdown because suddenly everyone wanted a dog and they became in so much demand people would pay silly prices. A Cockerpoo before lockdown was around £450…. Now you can’t expect to pay over a grand. |
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"Not saying you’re wrong, but I’ve had mine over 8 years. A lot can change in that time. If I couldn’t afford to feed him, what should I do?
Find him a good home where he will be cared for…? Or starve him (not going to happen, but just giving an alternative pov).
Yeah, I do understand what you mean. A home that can look after them properly, if you’re unable too.
If people feel that financially pressured it’s deeply sad, as to me it’s akin to being forced to give up on a family member. "
Totally. He’s a part of my family, and I’d never do it (despite the current smell !), but just giving an alternative pov. |
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?
This boils my piss, it's like all the pets bought in lockdown, can't look after them now they are back at work."
Totally agree |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My Daughter in law is a dog trainer and behaviourist, she has that many calls from people having issues with their dogs saying 'we are going to have to get rid' Demi will ask how long has the issue been going on? - "for as long as we've had the dog, he's on his last chance"
It beggars belief that people wait for the extremes and the behaviors are ingrained at that point, people want a quick fix and it isn't happening, Demi says 99% of the issues isn't with the dog and her job is about teaching the owners.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Imagine not being able to afford the feed the pet you love as we know they are part of the family, what a horrible heartbreaking decision to have to make. |
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My former brother in law abandoned his retriever because he was too busy! There are lots of irresponsible owners out there. But there are genuine people who just can't cope e.g. due to illness or because they can't afford it anymore.
I hope that if less people want pets, some of the horrible puppy farms etc will shut down as it won't be profitable anymore. |
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"My former brother in law abandoned his retriever because he was too busy! There are lots of irresponsible owners out there. But there are genuine people who just can't cope e.g. due to illness or because they can't afford it anymore.
I hope that if less people want pets, some of the horrible puppy farms etc will shut down as it won't be profitable anymore. "
Definitely, people need to support their local rescue shelters and also do their research when looking to buy a Puppy.
Puppy farms don't operate in open spaces on big remote complexes. Puppy farms operate on your street, in normal looking houses in squalid....puppies are then moved to locations miles away to be shown in nice places to unsuspecting buyers, they go to a lovely looking house and see a lovely little Puppy, they even use whelping belts to disguise the fact the 'mother dog' isn't feeding.
It's scary, one such operation was shut down behind my house, the details were horrifi, it shook our Neighbourhood to the core, we found that the pups were being taken to Cardiff to be sold
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?"
I won't be getting rid of mine.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have adopted a number of dogs down the years . Some young and some very old who have seen out their days in peaceful surroundings. People let their dogs go for various reasons and lots are unavoidable but some of the reasons quite rightly make my blood boil. Just hope there’s enough kind people in the world to help. |
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On balance I would rather people who didn't want or couldn't keep their pet gave it up. That's surely better than keeping it and treating it badly or keeping it and giving it less food than it needs and not getting it's vaccinations and flea treatment or treating any illness because you couldn't afford it. |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box"
I don't think it's anything to do with this at all as I've found alot that will take pets! |
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"My Daughter in law is a dog trainer and behaviourist, she has that many calls from people having issues with their dogs saying 'we are going to have to get rid' Demi will ask how long has the issue been going on? - "for as long as we've had the dog, he's on his last chance"
It beggars belief that people wait for the extremes and the behaviors are ingrained at that point, people want a quick fix and it isn't happening, Demi says 99% of the issues isn't with the dog and her job is about teaching the owners.
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Totally agree with your DIL
A lot of issues start while they are puppies because people think you do not need to train a puppy, when actually they do.
My friend is also a trainer and behaviourist and also sees many dogs with issues the issues don’t lie with the dog itself, it lies with the owner because no work has been done. She had one person who had a 4month old pup who said that if it didn’t stop biting people it would be PTS. She went to see it and was expecting an aggressive dog…. She met a sweet wee dog, that was mouthing your hands because he was teething. Basically said there’s nothing wrong with your dog other than he’s got mouth pain because his bigger teeth are growing through. But she did get them to come to one of her puppy training classes which they and the puppy loved. He stopped mouthing soon after as he had something better to do so was knocked after the training and practising at home.
Can I ask who you’re DIL is? I may have heard of her on the trainers circuit |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box
I don't think it's anything to do with this at all as I've found alot that will take pets! "
I don't think we can possibly know every circumstance |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I am thinking about taking in another cat because so many are being given up. I would only take an older cat though, as I wasn't planning to get anymore when my cats depart. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well, this threads making me feel all the sads.
It's funny though, some people are so oblivious to this behaviour being unacceptable, yet if I catch a whiff of it, that's it, you're an awful person and I'll never change my view's.
You can tell a lot about someone by how the treat animals, and waiter's. |
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"I can't imagine a time when I'd give up a pet but if I had no money what could I do?
People are having to make very tough decisions and give up a lot of things that cost money including food and heating. If they are giving a pet up in the best interests of the animal (and I honestly can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be) I don't think they should be criticised "
If this is the case then I do agree with that action.
I guess one of my concerns is that things aren’t as tight as that for some people giving up pets and that they’ve become an inconvenience. Giving up materialistic things has been compared to giving up a pet even in this thread for example. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The amount of family members I have that randomly get dogs with no forethought then have got rid of it cos they can't afford it is digusting.
Certainly not the case for everyone but a small percentage of people giving up dogs because of the cost of living are just irresponsible owners using this to self justify their shitty decisions |
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"On balance I would rather people who didn't want or couldn't keep their pet gave it up. That's surely better than keeping it and treating it badly or keeping it and giving it less food than it needs and not getting it's vaccinations and flea treatment or treating any illness because you couldn't afford it. "
Absolutely agree, it’s definitely better.
I was going to say people wouldn’t do it with kids though and that pets should be afforded the same respect, but people can and do do it to children too |
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"On balance I would rather people who didn't want or couldn't keep their pet gave it up. That's surely better than keeping it and treating it badly or keeping it and giving it less food than it needs and not getting it's vaccinations and flea treatment or treating any illness because you couldn't afford it.
Absolutely agree, it’s definitely better.
I was going to say people wouldn’t do it with kids though and that pets should be afforded the same respect, but people can and do do it to children too "
They do. I don't think it's rife though. I reckon there are far more people struggling to keep kids and pets fed and going without themselves than there are people willy nilly dropping a couple of toddlers and a Jack Russell at rehoming centres because they don't like sticky finger marks on the furniture and paw prints on the kitchen floor. |
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"My Daughter in law is a dog trainer and behaviourist, she has that many calls from people having issues with their dogs saying 'we are going to have to get rid' Demi will ask how long has the issue been going on? - "for as long as we've had the dog, he's on his last chance"
It beggars belief that people wait for the extremes and the behaviors are ingrained at that point, people want a quick fix and it isn't happening, Demi says 99% of the issues isn't with the dog and her job is about teaching the owners.
Totally agree with your DIL
A lot of issues start while they are puppies because people think you do not need to train a puppy, when actually they do.
My friend is also a trainer and behaviourist and also sees many dogs with issues the issues don’t lie with the dog itself, it lies with the owner because no work has been done. She had one person who had a 4month old pup who said that if it didn’t stop biting people it would be PTS. She went to see it and was expecting an aggressive dog…. She met a sweet wee dog, that was mouthing your hands because he was teething. Basically said there’s nothing wrong with your dog other than he’s got mouth pain because his bigger teeth are growing through. But she did get them to come to one of her puppy training classes which they and the puppy loved. He stopped mouthing soon after as he had something better to do so was knocked after the training and practising at home.
Can I ask who you’re DIL is? I may have heard of her on the trainers circuit "
Completely agree, to want to put a Puppy to sleep because of teething is horrific! It is how they explore the world and make sense of their environment. Demi did the same with a family who had a Cocker Spaniel pup, they were going to 'get rid' because of her chewing. Demi said it's boredom, the pup's behaviour needs redirecting but everytime they come to class the husband would intimidate the dog and try and engage on the benefits of 'alpha training' because he had read a book. Now the dog lives with Demi
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?"
I have been trying to give up pets for years, have you ever tried to take a German Shepherd intravenously?! Had to sniff the bugger in the end, did not like that one bit! |
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"My former brother in law abandoned his retriever because he was too busy! There are lots of irresponsible owners out there. But there are genuine people who just can't cope e.g. due to illness or because they can't afford it anymore.
I hope that if less people want pets, some of the horrible puppy farms etc will shut down as it won't be profitable anymore.
Definitely, people need to support their local rescue shelters and also do their research when looking to buy a Puppy.
Puppy farms don't operate in open spaces on big remote complexes. Puppy farms operate on your street, in normal looking houses in squalid....puppies are then moved to locations miles away to be shown in nice places to unsuspecting buyers, they go to a lovely looking house and see a lovely little Puppy, they even use whelping belts to disguise the fact the 'mother dog' isn't feeding.
It's scary, one such operation was shut down behind my house, the details were horrifi, it shook our Neighbourhood to the core, we found that the pups were being taken to Cardiff to be sold
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There are a few reports a year on puppy farms around us. Generally because we're quite rural. And yeah same then moved to nice urban areas to dupe people.
Do wish people who buy pets did more homework on what to look for also. But I can understand with the ridiculous prices of dogs recently why they seek a bargain. I hope if anything comes from this is that they shut down for good. And maybe the government should look into better regulations. |
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?"
Really? Should 'these people'.....you mean poor people going through a tough time financially and having to make heart breaking decisions?
Get the fuck over yourself sitting there in some sort of high and mighty fucking judgment. It's sickening to read.
Do you think it's an easy snap decision for them? Do you think they have not struggled for some time trying to make it work?
In fact, accepting that they cannot afford to give their pet the correct care is being a responsible owner. Would you prefer them to keep them but underfeed them and not take them to the vet because they can't afford it?
You'd be the first to brandish them animal abusers if they did I'm sure. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I struggled to find anywhere for my family when I was looking to rent too because I had a dog. But there's such a shortage now of rental properties, having a dog might mean you can't house your family. A very tough decision to make. That's without even considering the cost of an animal. |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box"
which is just about to be made illegal for landlords to do .. unless there is a valid legal reason for not allowing pets.. big changes about to go off with renting market to give tenants way more rights |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?
This boils my piss, it's like all the pets bought in lockdown, can't look after them now they are back at work."
That's very different circumstances though |
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I remember talking to a couple in Brighton years ago, they hand a bit of a zoo. Dogs, cats, birds, snakes, lizards, they had the lot.
They both had fantastic jobs and the company went bust, so they had to get rid of them.
It depends on the circumstance of giving up the pet, not thought the cost of pet ownership properly, then no they shouldn't have a pet again. |
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I understand people are different but if I had a choice between feeding myself or feeding my dog, my dog would take priority. No financial situation in the world would make me walk away from him. |
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"I understand people are different but if I had a choice between feeding myself or feeding my dog, my dog would take priority. No financial situation in the world would make me walk away from him." This x |
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"I understand people are different but if I had a choice between feeding myself or feeding my dog, my dog would take priority. No financial situation in the world would make me walk away from him."
It's easy to say that when you're not actually in that position. |
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"I can't imagine a time when I'd give up a pet but if I had no money what could I do?
People are having to make very tough decisions and give up a lot of things that cost money including food and heating. If they are giving a pet up in the best interests of the animal (and I honestly can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be) I don't think they should be criticised "
I can't imagine being in that situation and how I'd feel, but I'd hope that I would act in the best interest of my much loved pet. |
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"Not saying you’re wrong, but I’ve had mine over 8 years. A lot can change in that time. If I couldn’t afford to feed him, what should I do?
Find him a good home where he will be cared for…? Or starve him (not going to happen, but just giving an alternative pov)."
I kind of understand where your coming from but tbh I would never give up my fluffball for anything and after 19 years I doubt he'd be suitable for rehoming. I'd rather give up a couple of days food so I could afford a box of Felix for him rather than suffer heartache of a farewell |
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By *eisty LadyWoman
over a year ago
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I’ve got 6 dogs and a couple of cats - there’s no way I’d part with any of them, I’d rather cut back on other things, there’s always something someone can cut back on
I buy dog food, cat food in 15k bags, 5L sacks of litter. Injections are the most expensive thing but that’s once a year.
Dogs and cats are more than pets, they’re part of the family, they’re amazing at helping us cope mentally and emotionally with things.
I can confide in my cats and dogs, they listen and never repeat to anyone else my deepest secrets or judge me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I get the sentiment, I do, but I think some people are mistakenly assuming it's a case of cutting back here, a few days without there.
Some people are absolutely fucked right now, the scale of the financial issues being felt isn't rectified with a day off of avocado toast and prosecco.
If you can't afford the emergency fees, medical bills, check ups, procedures, operations, you've no business having a pet. And if you recognise that, and pass them onto someone that can, more power to you.
Holding on for dear life thinking it's just a case of their kibble is churlish to both the reality of pet ownership, and life right now.
Of course, the vast majority would do anything. Been there, done that, bled financially for the little shits, but like they say with another topic we'll all hate thinking about...
Better a week early than a day late.
It's about their well being, fuck yours.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think they should adjust to there circumstances like eat one meal less so they can feed there pet or when people do get there money buy a sack of dry biscuits |
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"I think they should adjust to there circumstances like eat one meal less so they can feed there pet or when people do get there money buy a sack of dry biscuits "
Because food is the only cost associated with owning a pet
Some of you lot are delusional, privileged and extremely judgemental. I'd hate to be someone in this position reading this thread and being made to feel like shit because you all think their situation is so easily solvable.
Heaven forbid you ever fall on hard times. We're not talking being short a few quid here. People are on absolute dire straits money wise. |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box
which is just about to be made illegal for landlords to do .. unless there is a valid legal reason for not allowing pets.. big changes about to go off with renting market to give tenants way more rights " yeah but makes me wonder how they will enforce it tho look at lockdown nobody was supposed to be able to be evicted but it still happened either way |
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"I see it being an issue with evictions lots of landlords dont take pets now so its either take a house but lose your dog or keep the dog and live in a cardboard box
which is just about to be made illegal for landlords to do .. unless there is a valid legal reason for not allowing pets.. big changes about to go off with renting market to give tenants way more rights yeah but makes me wonder how they will enforce it tho look at lockdown nobody was supposed to be able to be evicted but it still happened either way" hell i even met a young mum few weeks ago been homeless 3 months after being evicted for giving birth wtf |
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"I think they should adjust to there circumstances like eat one meal less so they can feed there pet or when people do get there money buy a sack of dry biscuits
Because food is the only cost associated with owning a pet
Some of you lot are delusional, privileged and extremely judgemental. I'd hate to be someone in this position reading this thread and being made to feel like shit because you all think their situation is so easily solvable.
Heaven forbid you ever fall on hard times. We're not talking being short a few quid here. People are on absolute dire straits money wise. " |
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Sometimes it's the most loving thing they could do. Yeah, how shit must that be. Loving your family member so much yet still having to let them go because keeping them with you is bad for their health (physical and emotional)
I went without food plenty of times before the current financial crisis so girl dog could eat, so we'd both be in a world of shit now, but "luckily" for both of us she went over the rainbow bridge before this current shit show.
I've been yearning for a new companion, but aside from not being able to give them the time due to work, I do find myself in a position where the extra mouth to feed and welfare to tend to would be out of my price bracket.
People really are living hand to mouth and yes, some of those giving up pets will be doing so coz it now means they can't afford a the holiday they're used to, for others tho, it's a choice they never want to make, will feel like a cunt and a total fail for, but done with the animals welfare at heart.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’d rather the pets go to a person/family that can afford to look after it. I’m guessing if someone is having to make that decision then they’re near enough at rock bottom and shouldn’t be judged for trying to survive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are. "
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is |
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I would go hungry myself to make sure my doggos are fed and have done in the past, but if it got to the point I could no longer provide what they needed I would rather consider giving them up to the dogs trust than not be able to care for them properly and have them suffer as that would break my heart more than giving them up to someone that can provide for them. |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is"
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing. |
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
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I see no different than asking someone whether they would place their parent(s) into care or invite them to live in their home.
No one needs to be a saint or sinner, it all boils down to individual circumstances. |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing. "
There have been a couple of light hearted comments already which nobody moaned about which is why i thought it was ok |
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I've seen folk choose to sleep on the streets as there are very, very few homeless accomadations that can also take in dogs. There are some local charities, within some locations that can temporarily house pets till folk get back on their feet. Few and very far between though. By comparison there are the wonderful organisations like the PDSA who offer free/user donations on pet vet treatments for those on qualifying benefits. Unfortunately many appear to take the absoute piss with these services and breed dogs, as they're on 'benefits' so think they're entitled to use a 'free' service |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing.
There have been a couple of light hearted comments already which nobody moaned about which is why i thought it was ok"
Those were absurdly light hearted such as giving up children. Yours just wasn't funny. I can't help it if you're not funny. |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing.
There have been a couple of light hearted comments already which nobody moaned about which is why i thought it was ok
Those were absurdly light hearted such as giving up children. Yours just wasn't funny. I can't help it if you're not funny. "
Okay.The judge of whats considered funny when it comes to light hearted comments has spoken.
Plus im telling the truth and that i would actually go without food and feed my cat then let her go |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing.
There have been a couple of light hearted comments already which nobody moaned about which is why i thought it was ok
Those were absurdly light hearted such as giving up children. Yours just wasn't funny. I can't help it if you're not funny.
Okay.The judge of whats considered funny when it comes to light hearted comments has spoken.
Plus im telling the truth and that i would actually go without food and feed my cat then let her go"
I'm not sure what your issue with me is but I'm enjoying taking up space in your head
Seem a bit triggered by an honest response |
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If people have to make that heartbreaking decision and are struggling to feed their kids AND their dog, why not feed the dog TO the kids?
Go ahead. Block me. See if I care … |
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"If people have to make that heartbreaking decision and are struggling to feed their kids AND their dog, why not feed the dog TO the kids?
Go ahead. Block me. See if I care …"
Ah see....an obviously light hearted response. As I have now been appointed the judge of this I stamp it approved |
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"If people have to make that heartbreaking decision and are struggling to feed their kids AND their dog, why not feed the dog TO the kids?
Go ahead. Block me. See if I care …
Ah see....an obviously light hearted response. As I have now been appointed the judge of this I stamp it approved " no more like if you fit in! |
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"Would rather starve then give up my princess(tuffty the cat).
Again easy to say when you're not in the financial position these people are.
Trust you.lighten up please i was just having a bit of lighthearted fun.plus how do you know what my financial situation is
It's not really a lighthearted fun topic tho is it? It's actually an incredibly heartbreaking one that people are facing.
There have been a couple of light hearted comments already which nobody moaned about which is why i thought it was ok
Those were absurdly light hearted such as giving up children. Yours just wasn't funny. I can't help it if you're not funny.
Okay.The judge of whats considered funny when it comes to light hearted comments has spoken.
Plus im telling the truth and that i would actually go without food and feed my cat then let her go
I'm not sure what your issue with me is but I'm enjoying taking up space in your head
Seem a bit triggered by an honest response "
What makes you think i have an issue with you?seem a bit full of yourself to think that.Am i not allowed to respond to you?all i have done is responded in a forum the the same way you do and what everyone else does.I wont continue though the disrespect the OP’s post though and take over the same way you are famous for on here so will leave it be.take care |
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I think that's a bit unfair and judgemental. You're probably in a more fortunate position than most if you can sit there and say that.
I had to rehome my 7 year old lab a few years ago and it was heartbreaking. But he's living his best life now and he has more than we could ever have given to him.
I do think some people don't think properly about the whole package and they don't deserve to just get a new pet whenever they fancy, but so many who rehome do it with their pets best interest at heart. It's incredibly expensive to live at the moment and support even just one person, and taking care of a pet isn't exactly cost free. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I don’t get animals in houses , I get for companionship if you are happy single and at home etc but people who work full time Jane kids and barely have time to walk a dog should he fined for animal cruelty |
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People’s circumstances change.
It’s far more selfish to keep an animal in a poor condition or short of food than it is to break your heart and give them to another home where they can be properly looked after.
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"I think they should adjust to there circumstances like eat one meal less so they can feed there pet or when people do get there money buy a sack of dry biscuits
Because food is the only cost associated with owning a pet
Some of you lot are delusional, privileged and extremely judgemental. I'd hate to be someone in this position reading this thread and being made to feel like shit because you all think their situation is so easily solvable.
Heaven forbid you ever fall on hard times. We're not talking being short a few quid here. People are on absolute dire straits money wise. " |
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Heartbreaking kind of decision, it's one I've had to think about.
My oldest cat is 14 and the youngest is 8, so much has changed since I took them on.
I imagine lots will be in this predicament come the winter months. I wouldn't ever judge anyone making the best decision for them and the pet. |
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I think a lot of people are possibly in for a shock in the coming few years. The reality of being seriously short of money over a long period of time is not something that a lot of people have experienced. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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I do wonder if any of those people on here saying they would go hungry have ever gone hungry. I mean proper hungry where you've gone without food or judt minimal food for days.
Because its fucking grim and I suspect some of the people thinking its some noble gesture they'd willingly undertake have no real idea what being hungry really feels like and equate it ti skipping a meal and have no idea what it really feels like |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"I think a lot of people are possibly in for a shock in the coming few years. The reality of being seriously short of money over a long period of time is not something that a lot of people have experienced. "
What's coming isn't just goung to hit the poor, its going to hit middle income families who are going to see their disposable income reduce drastically, in simple terms the bigger the house the bigger the increase in fuel bills and potentially the bigger the increase in mortgage payments. And it does feel some people are obvious to that |
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"I do wonder if any of those people on here saying they would go hungry have ever gone hungry. I mean proper hungry where you've gone without food or judt minimal food for days.
Because its fucking grim and I suspect some of the people thinking its some noble gesture they'd willingly undertake have no real idea what being hungry really feels like and equate it ti skipping a meal and have no idea what it really feels like"
I think this is bang on point. There's so many folk who give it the whole 'we're having to cut our cloth to fit around takeaways, the kids sporting activities'. And yeah, that's sad that they have to do that. But it's not literally sitting there because you've lost your job and it takes universal credit at least 6wks to catch up, because if you were working they won't always give out an upfront repayment. And you have literally no fuel, no food, no means to travel, and kids/pets to feed... And they state 'well yes this is very sad... Do you have family that can help?'. And this is the society we live in |
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"I think a lot of people are possibly in for a shock in the coming few years. The reality of being seriously short of money over a long period of time is not something that a lot of people have experienced.
What's coming isn't just goung to hit the poor, its going to hit middle income families who are going to see their disposable income reduce drastically, in simple terms the bigger the house the bigger the increase in fuel bills and potentially the bigger the increase in mortgage payments. And it does feel some people are obvious to that"
I don't think its possible to understand what being really poor is like unless you've experienced it over a lengthy period. How can you?
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over a year ago
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"I think a lot of people are possibly in for a shock in the coming few years. The reality of being seriously short of money over a long period of time is not something that a lot of people have experienced.
What's coming isn't just goung to hit the poor, its going to hit middle income families who are going to see their disposable income reduce drastically, in simple terms the bigger the house the bigger the increase in fuel bills and potentially the bigger the increase in mortgage payments. And it does feel some people are obvious to that
I don't think its possible to understand what being really poor is like unless you've experienced it over a lengthy period. How can you?
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Oh totally, and sadly as a society there is the myth that the unemployed are scroungers living the high life which acts as a distraction from the millions living in poverty abd using food banks while working full time |
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"I do wonder if any of those people on here saying they would go hungry have ever gone hungry. I mean proper hungry where you've gone without food or judt minimal food for days.
Because its fucking grim and I suspect some of the people thinking its some noble gesture they'd willingly undertake have no real idea what being hungry really feels like and equate it ti skipping a meal and have no idea what it really feels like"
Yup it really is grim I have been in this situation before to the point that I have had enough money to buy a bag of pasta and that was it for the week one bowl of plain pasta a day with a few herbs thrown in to make it taste better, I think in some ways it was fortunate that I grew up as a council estate kid in a family that never really had much money as I have grown up having to get by on what we had and if times get hard I can make do most of the time.
Even now as a full time carer for my mother money is tight and getting tighter, even just paying bills and buying food for us and the dogs takes some juggling now but it is what it is and we just have to deal with it day by day. |
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"I think a lot of people are possibly in for a shock in the coming few years. The reality of being seriously short of money over a long period of time is not something that a lot of people have experienced.
What's coming isn't just goung to hit the poor, its going to hit middle income families who are going to see their disposable income reduce drastically, in simple terms the bigger the house the bigger the increase in fuel bills and potentially the bigger the increase in mortgage payments. And it does feel some people are obvious to that
I don't think its possible to understand what being really poor is like unless you've experienced it over a lengthy period. How can you?
Oh totally, and sadly as a society there is the myth that the unemployed are scroungers living the high life which acts as a distraction from the millions living in poverty abd using food banks while working full time"
Unfortunately quite a few people buy into the sensational stories about scroungers etc. Most people will not want to have to rely on benefits and I am really not interested in the few that might. The stories about scroungers etc are often there to distract from the actual issues. The way some disabled people have been treated during those so called assessments etc was despicable. I am a caring person and want to live in a caring society. I am appalled sometimes at the sentiments expressed about people who find themselves without work or have a disability. |
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"Owners are apparently giving up pets due to the cost of living. Appreciate times are hard for many people but really?
Should these people have had pets in the first place or be allowed them again (if they’re only going abandon them if it gets tough again)?
Really? Should 'these people'.....you mean poor people going through a tough time financially and having to make heart breaking decisions?
Get the fuck over yourself sitting there in some sort of high and mighty fucking judgment. It's sickening to read.
Do you think it's an easy snap decision for them? Do you think they have not struggled for some time trying to make it work?
In fact, accepting that they cannot afford to give their pet the correct care is being a responsible owner. Would you prefer them to keep them but underfeed them and not take them to the vet because they can't afford it?
You'd be the first to brandish them animal abusers if they did I'm sure. "
Lots of aggression there, it’s an emotive topic though, I get it. There’s no ivory tower here, but you carry on painting your own picture of what you choose to see.
It’s a discussion, it involves a dialogue being made back and forth between different people and perspectives being shared, many of which have been following the opening post.
I’m not sure you’re interested in that though, enjoy the soap box.
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"I think that's a bit unfair and judgemental. You're probably in a more fortunate position than most if you can sit there and say that.
I had to rehome my 7 year old lab a few years ago and it was heartbreaking. But he's living his best life now and he has more than we could ever have given to him.
I do think some people don't think properly about the whole package and they don't deserve to just get a new pet whenever they fancy, but so many who rehome do it with their pets best interest at heart. It's incredibly expensive to live at the moment and support even just one person, and taking care of a pet isn't exactly cost free."
It’s something I accept and totally concede that the opening post may have read as a judgement, but it was meant to start a conversation, which it has. It’s been interesting to get different perspectives, particularly from those who’ve had circumstances I’d not have thought of, that have dictated what they have to do. I wouldn’t wish most of those situations on anyone and absolutely support anyone who genuinely gives up an animal for its own benefit.
Fab is a bit of a paradox at times. If you start a discussion it often just leads to finger pointing instead of dialogue. Communicating and exchanging perspectives is surely a good thing? Not specifically a response to your post there, LBC..
It’s the latter half of your comment that spurred this thread. In my local area there has been a huge boom in the number of dogs, easily as much as twice as many being seen on the normal walk during lockdowns. Also seems to be quite a few more cats too. Can’t help but wonder how many of these animals will end up in a shelter. |
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"I don't imagine it's a decision they'll have taken lightly
No, I don’t imagine it is. I just have a hard time getting my head round it as the dogs are family to me. " why don't u adopt all the abandoned pets if u think its easy too
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"I don't imagine it's a decision they'll have taken lightly
No, I don’t imagine it is. I just have a hard time getting my head round it as the dogs are family to me. why don't u adopt all the abandoned pets if u think its easy too
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Great idea! Can you help me build a massive fence to keep them all in? |
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"I don't imagine it's a decision they'll have taken lightly
No, I don’t imagine it is. I just have a hard time getting my head round it as the dogs are family to me. why don't u adopt all the abandoned pets if u think its easy too
Great idea! Can you help me build a massive fence to keep them all in? "
U can do that yourself if pets are family to u |
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