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Ozzie Players Shun Rainbow Flag

By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Seven Oz rubgy players have refused to wear their new club jersey which depicts a rainbow flag emblym. They had not been consulted first and the club has apologised to all parties.

What's going on in Oz guys?

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By *ustme34Man over a year ago

Bradford

What do you mean whats going on in them

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Maybe they don't like wearing political symbols?

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

My experience of Ozzie men outside of Sydney and a couple other cities is they are not very open to diversity so no surprise but forcing people to celebrate diversity isn’t the solution

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Seven Oz rubgy players have refused to wear their new club jersey which depicts a rainbow flag emblym. They had not been consulted first and the club has apologised to all parties.

What's going on in Oz guys?"

What’s going on in oz? All sorts of things.

What’s going on in this particular situation? Pretty much what you reported

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By *partharmonyCouple over a year ago

Ruislip

Maybe they don't like gay people. They probably all talk about it after the game when they are all having a shower together.

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"Maybe they don't like gay people. They probably all talk about it after the game when they are all having a shower together. "

Apparently, the players objected to the shirts “on religious and cultural grounds”.

Sounds like the sort of stuff Israel falau has come out with in the past

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-62301091

Is it ironic that team are from Manly?! I first read the caption that read 'manly players....' and thought ah....I see the problem lol

It's against their religious and cultural beliefs apparently and they didn't call for the shirt to be withdrawn, they opted to boycott the game which is better I guess.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"Maybe they don't like gay people. They probably all talk about it after the game when they are all having a shower together.

Apparently, the players objected to the shirts “on religious and cultural grounds”.

Sounds like the sort of stuff Israel falau has come out with in the past "

I did think of him when I read the article!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?"

Good point

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point "

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Religious and cultural grounds." It's a fantastic excuse for being a cunt really.

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By *agneto.Man over a year ago

Bham

It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols. "

This sort of post is why we need a 'Like' button.

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

Funny the responses to what basically amounts to telling people what to wear

I thought we were past telling people what to wear?

Or is that only in certain situations?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

Yes they have the right but they can't pick and choose when yo claim to have righteous religious views. Gambling goes against most religions but they're happy to be sponsored by casino or slot machine companies. No complaints about upholding their prescious religious values there. But a rainbow shoeing support for the LBGT community.... suddenly they're devout?

It's homophobic pure and simple.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

""Religious and cultural grounds." It's a fantastic excuse for being a cunt really. "

Not exactly a first!

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple. "

So this boils down to “they have no right to exercise their religion how they want to”

That’s an interesting take

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple.

So this boils down to “they have no right to exercise their religion how they want to”

That’s an interesting take "

I'm an interesting person.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple.

So this boils down to “they have no right to exercise their religion how they want to”

That’s an interesting take "

I think it’s the “a la carte” inconsistency that Evie is looting out, picking and choosing when they feel that their religious concerns matter.

Clearly pride outranks gambling and booze in wherever religious framework they are using. And violence is ok too.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place? "

Pride month? Supporting LBGT players? Making the sport less homophobic?

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place? "

Exactky, some people just want to play their sport without getting dragged into a political statement and culture war

Maybe they disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQABC community like trans women competing in mens sports and decide to just not wear it

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple.

So this boils down to “they have no right to exercise their religion how they want to”

That’s an interesting take

I think it’s the “a la carte” inconsistency that Evie is looting out, picking and choosing when they feel that their religious concerns matter.

Clearly pride outranks gambling and booze in wherever religious framework they are using. And violence is ok too. "

Absolutely. Gambling and alcohol does far more damage than being gay will ever do but because the rainbow isn't lining they're pockets that's the one that's suddenly not ok to have on their shirts.

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple.

So this boils down to “they have no right to exercise their religion how they want to”

That’s an interesting take

I think it’s the “a la carte” inconsistency that Evie is looting out, picking and choosing when they feel that their religious concerns matter.

Clearly pride outranks gambling and booze in wherever religious framework they are using. And violence is ok too. "

Sadly that’s what that have to do to keep their job

The entire thing is so aggressively polarising you have to hide behind those reasons because anyone having an opinion that’s anything less than “I support every aspect you suppprt” is met with violent venom

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Exactky, some people just want to play their sport without getting dragged into a political statement and culture war

Maybe they disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQABC community like trans women competing in mens sports and decide to just not wear it "

Then they should say that and not hide behind 'its against my rElIgIoN!' in the hopes that no one dare say anything to challenge that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Pride month? Supporting LBGT players? Making the sport less homophobic?"

So maybe it should be optional!

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By *annaBeStrongMan over a year ago

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Exactky, some people just want to play their sport without getting dragged into a political statement and culture war

Maybe they disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQABC community like trans women competing in mens sports and decide to just not wear it

Then they should say that and not hide behind 'its against my rElIgIoN!' in the hopes that no one dare say anything to challenge that. "

They can’t because the other side is too aggressive. They’ve probably been told by management to not say anything and just hide behind a safe reason because no one can have an opinion these days without bring attacked

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain. "

This is exactly my opinion. Have the integrity to be honest about the reasons, though the club could have avoided this by having 2 variants, one with the traditional white band, the other rainbow so players choose like they do taking the knee

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain.

Yeah I like that option.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe they don't like gay people. They probably all talk about it after the game when they are all having a shower together. "

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Pride month? Supporting LBGT players? Making the sport less homophobic?"

And the very fact that it has caused such problems is exactly why it's needed.

I support the players right to not wear it in the same way I support but don't agree with people not taking the knee. But all these people do is prove that that sport does have a problem and it does need address. It's 2022, homophobia is not okay even when wrapped up as religious beliefs and it needs challenging

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols. "

Ramming it down people's throats isn't the answer.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Pride month? Supporting LBGT players? Making the sport less homophobic?

So maybe it should be optional! "

It can’t be. Everyone on a team has the west the same shirt. That’s the rule

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain.

No, they can’t. All have to wear the same kit.

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By *immyinreadingMan over a year ago

henley on thames

"For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain.

Yeah I like that option. "

League rules are that they all have to wear the same kit, so that isn’t an option

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By *xploring_FunWoman over a year ago

Coventry

Manly players clashing with their board isn’t new.

It’ll be interesting to see who backs down and who doesn’t. Especially if the numbers correlate between players out of contract next year (and at least one openly wanting to leave) who stay firm in their refusal and those backing down being on longer term deals.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs Manly, as a club with a lot of religious players and a club that’s had drama before, have massively shot themselves in the foot PR wise with this one.

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By *xploring_FunWoman over a year ago

Coventry

"For the record I'm not saying they have to wear it. I said before it was better for them to boycott rather than demand the shirt be pulled (although it ultimately ended that way).

Just be honest about the reasons. Don't hide behind religion or culture when you're happy to go against those things for monetary gain.

NRL teams have to all wear the same jersey. The only deviation is the number.

They don’t even have player names or squad numbers, just the 1-13 shirts.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place? "

I don't know their reasons but typically it will be to show solidarity, to express organisations' values and rules, etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Pride month? Supporting LBGT players? Making the sport less homophobic?

So maybe it should be optional!

It can’t be. Everyone on a team has the west the same shirt. That’s the rule "

Armbands?

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Ramming it down people's throats isn't the answer. "

Agree, sportsmen and women should be coerced into making political gestures.

I'm a big believer in freedom of speech and expression so I don't think that someone should be ostracised for refusing to wear a symbol on their uniform

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

I would happily wear it but I don’t agree anyone should have to wear it. And their reasons shouldn’t be questioned.

Bit like the poppy argument that rolls round every year. You are not a raging UK hater for simply not wearing one and your reasons are your own.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Maybe they …… oh I can’t be bothered.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I mean, it's the Manly Sea Eagles, the fuck do you want

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

I applaud them for taking a stance. I can’t see however how they’ll come out the other side unscathed from it but well done for standing up to what they believe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Called choice

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A rainbow kit could make it hard to tackle someone as the brur effect could effect your contact point when defending them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple. "
and so what if it is homophobic it's still there choice.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman over a year ago

Wirral.

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Exactky, some people just want to play their sport without getting dragged into a political statement and culture war

Maybe they disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQABC community like trans women competing in mens sports and decide to just not wear it

Then they should say that and not hide behind 'its against my rElIgIoN!' in the hopes that no one dare say anything to challenge that. "

You'd really feel better if they said they're not wearing the rainbow 'cos they hate gays??

And, to be fair, we don't KNOW their exact reason.

I don't think folk should be forced into something that makes them uncomfortable. Talk & persuasion is the way. Or, has been said above, keep politics out of sport x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My question is, why do the shirts need a rainbow emblem in the first place?

Exactky, some people just want to play their sport without getting dragged into a political statement and culture war

Maybe they disagree with certain aspects of the LGBTQABC community like trans women competing in mens sports and decide to just not wear it

Then they should say that and not hide behind 'its against my rElIgIoN!' in the hopes that no one dare say anything to challenge that.

You'd really feel better if they said they're not wearing the rainbow 'cos they hate gays??

And, to be fair, we don't KNOW their exact reason.

I don't think folk should be forced into something that makes them uncomfortable. Talk & persuasion is the way. Or, has been said above, keep politics out of sport x"
this

as a rugby player if i were to turn up to a new season with a shirt covered in political slogans and statements id have a transfer in before the day ended

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

You'd really feel better if they said they're not wearing the rainbow 'cos they hate gays??

I'd certainly respect them more yes. I'm sick of the right claiming they aren't racist, aren't transphobic, aren't homophobic and then claiming they are censored for speaking out. Stop with the vagueness and own their opinions and beliefs rather than eternal whatifisms to justify them.

I'm proud of all my beliefs, and get attackd for them so even that defense doesn't work!

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By *limguy49Man over a year ago

Swindon

They have refused on religious grounds simple as that....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I mean, it's the Manly Sea Eagles, the fuck do you want

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By *omsubdevonCouple over a year ago

Newton Abbot

"They have refused on religious grounds simple as that.... "

So it's ok to use religion to be homophobic?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You'd really feel better if they said they're not wearing the rainbow 'cos they hate gays??

I'm proud of all my beliefs, and get attackd for them so even that defense doesn't work!"
its all about the how

If you met 2 salespeople one was very agressive didnt care you didnt want it and wouldnt leave until you got it or thru him out

The other charmed you complemented you made you feel at ease

Which of the two are you most likely to listen to

Who will convince you to do what they want you to do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not sure disagreeing to wear the rainbow emblem demonstrates homophobia. I perceive homophobia as the act of discriminating against someone based on their homosexuality (such as not giving a job to someone on that basis or being abusive to someone with homophobic terminology used. Isn’t there a danger we are lowering the threshold for phobias. Someone not being willing to support a cause isn’t an indication of a phobia (on its’ own), there would have to be more evidence.

I think we need to accept that some folk don’t like stuff but are happy to leave others to make their choices.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"They have refused on religious grounds simple as that.... "

But their devout religious beliefs only count when it's in support of the gays? Gambling and alcohol promotion is A-OK for them.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple. and so what if it is homophobic it's still there choice."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"They have refused on religious grounds simple as that....

But their devout religious beliefs only count when it's in support of the gays? Gambling and alcohol promotion is A-OK for them. "

In my experience a lot of religious people are hypocrites and I say this having grown up with 4 different religions having a massive influence on my life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you force people to wear “the flag” then it loses its meaning - it becomes a tickbox. People should want to celebrate diversity - if a group does not then that is the issue to address, not the presence or otherwise of a flag on their shirt.

However, does everyone need to embrace diversity? Surely it is a choice - it’s not 1984…

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?

Good point

But isn't the point that they have the right to decide if they want to wear the emblem??

There's a difference between a company paying for advertising and a political emblem.

Rightly or wrongly they have the right to refuse to wear it.

Forcing them to wear it is as bad as forcing them not to if they wanted to.

And from what I have read they haven't expressed any hatred they just don't want to wear it!

It's homophobic pure and simple. and so what if it is homophobic it's still there choice.

Never said it wasn't their choice but I have the right to challenge it. I've never said they didn't have the right not to wear the shirt. Just be honest about their reasons and stop cherry picking when their religion is important to them. They're hiding behind their 'religion'. "
be realist what high profile athlete could be honest about reasons for anything in the world where in when the minute you express an opinion about anything your publically linched for it there charged by vertue sygnaling governing bodies for it its not realistic to expect anyone to give the 100% truth if it may cos £££££ in either bullshit fines or lost wages

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?"

If they are Christian, the Bible does not specifically condemn gambling. They believe that alcohol is a gift from God that makes life more joyous, but are warned against over-indulgence and cigarettes weren't a thing when the Bible was written.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I suspect that the backlash for this kind of thing will make it no longer worth it now or soon

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Seven Oz rubgy players have refused to wear their new club jersey which depicts a rainbow flag emblym. They had not been consulted first and the club has apologised to all parties.

What's going on in Oz guys?"

Why should they be consulted? If they want the job, they should wear the fucking kit.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Seven Oz rubgy players have refused to wear their new club jersey which depicts a rainbow flag emblym. They had not been consulted first and the club has apologised to all parties.

What's going on in Oz guys?"

Again… Tom sensationalist again

Nope…. It’s a one off kit that that the manly sea eagles are wearing to celebrate inclusion… so instead of where the very thin white stripes would be it would be replaced by the pride colours!!!

It’s actually really tastefully done and if I could get a jersey I absolutely would.. but they are all sold out!

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By *hilloutMan over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

Keep politics out of sports. End of. It's a polarising subject. Professional sports are popular because they offer an "escape" from life's many issues.

Mixing the two never brings any good.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"These are the men citing religious grounds but who have no problem with advertising gambling, cigarettes or alcohol and are definitely not homophobic?"

.. and playing on Sundays….

That is also the point being made… that people may be hiding behind religious grounds to mask homophobia

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia"

I would wear the flag but you can’t say not wearing it is homophobia.

You can’t just celebrate everyone you agree with but vilify everyone you don’t.

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia"

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"Keep politics out of sports. End of. It's a polarising subject. Professional sports are popular because they offer an "escape" from life's many issues.

Mixing the two never brings any good."

I have posted this before in it's own thread.

There are two:

Sexes: Men and Political

Sexualities: Straight and political

Genders: Cis and political

Races: White and political

Womens hair styles: Long and political

Religions: Christian and political

This isn't about politics, there are politics in everything, there is politics in NOT having things present.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Seven Oz rubgy players have refused to wear their new club jersey which depicts a rainbow flag emblym. They had not been consulted first and the club has apologised to all parties.

What's going on in Oz guys?

Why should they be consulted? If they want the job, they should wear the fucking kit."
haha so much for inclusion

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia

I would wear the flag but you can’t say not wearing it is homophobia.

You can’t just celebrate everyone you agree with but vilify everyone you don’t."

So they're not wearing it because they hate rainbows? If this isn't anti LBGT then what is it?

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

"Keep politics out of sports. End of. It's a polarising subject. Professional sports are popular because they offer an "escape" from life's many issues.

Mixing the two never brings any good."

That comment is full of entitlement. But for many people it's not politics it's their life. If you are a gay male many sports are not welcoming it's as simple as that.

It's 2022, calling out homophobia and standing as an ally with the LGBTQIA+ community should not be polarising. Same as taking the knee shouldn't be polarising.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Keep politics out of sports. End of. It's a polarising subject. Professional sports are popular because they offer an "escape" from life's many issues.

Mixing the two never brings any good.

I have posted this before in it's own thread.

There are two:

Sexes: Men and Political

Sexualities: Straight and political

Genders: Cis and political

Races: White and political

Womens hair styles: Long and political

Religions: Christian and political

This isn't about politics, there are politics in everything, there is politics in NOT having things present.

Neutrality is siding with the oppressor. I'm glad that Australian sport is dragging its sorry arse out of the 19th century.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia

I would wear the flag but you can’t say not wearing it is homophobia.

You can’t just celebrate everyone you agree with but vilify everyone you don’t.

So they're not wearing it because they hate rainbows? If this isn't anti LBGT then what is it?"

By that logic black players who stopped taking the knee are racist

I thought being inclusive including supporting people for their religious beliefs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia

I would wear the flag but you can’t say not wearing it is homophobia.

You can’t just celebrate everyone you agree with but vilify everyone you don’t.

So they're not wearing it because they hate rainbows? If this isn't anti LBGT then what is it?

By that logic black players who stopped taking the knee are racist

I thought being inclusive including supporting people for their religious beliefs."

Included**

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"It is quite amazing to see how far people will stretch to defend homophobia

I would wear the flag but you can’t say not wearing it is homophobia.

You can’t just celebrate everyone you agree with but vilify everyone you don’t.

So they're not wearing it because they hate rainbows? If this isn't anti LBGT then what is it?"

The funny part is the religious views they are citing are quite likely Christian, and in the Christian religion, the Rainbow is God's promise not to send another flood....

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By *atcherwankerMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols. "

Like poppies?

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By *ex HolesMan over a year ago

Up North

"Keep politics out of sports. End of. It's a polarising subject. Professional sports are popular because they offer an "escape" from life's many issues.

Mixing the two never brings any good.

I have posted this before in it's own thread.

There are two:

Sexes: Men and Political

Sexualities: Straight and political

Genders: Cis and political

Races: White and political

Womens hair styles: Long and political

Religions: Christian and political

This isn't about politics, there are politics in everything, there is politics in NOT having things present.

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By *rs spicyCouple over a year ago

Chesterfield near centre

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Like poppies? "

Is a poppy a political symbol?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Like poppies?

Is a poppy a political symbol? "

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of course it is

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By *heNerdyFembyWoman over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Like poppies?

Is a poppy a political symbol?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of course it is

There are Two:

Symbols: Ones I like & Political

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By *rs spicyCouple over a year ago

Chesterfield near centre

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Like poppies?

Is a poppy a political symbol?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of course it is

Is it? Please explain.

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By *atcherwankerMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"It was much simpler when sport didn't allow political symbols.

Like poppies?

Is a poppy a political symbol?

You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of course it is

There are Two:

Symbols: Ones I like & Political"

*Hammers the imaginary "like" button*