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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys"
No longer being a member of the EU, means that our agreements with them are no longer valid. There will also be things that WE used to do for European tourists which we will no longer do.
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'Disabled drivers are being warned that their blue badges may not be accepted in popular European holiday destinations this summer due to Brexit.
Ministers are negotiating the status of the badges - which were recognised when the UK was in the EU - with 11 nations.
France, Spain, Portugal, Greece and Italy are among those "undecided" on recognising the discs, which help people park closer to a destination.' |
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over a year ago
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"Brexit is so shit!! I wanna git pissed in Ibiza on a £9 flight and get rid of all the forinners. I dint vote for all this shit!!"
It's not that bad, try thinking about the positives.
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Oh, I forgot, there are none.
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"Brexit is so shit!! I wanna git pissed in Ibiza on a £9 flight and get rid of all the forinners. I dint vote for all this shit!!
It's not that bad, try thinking about the positives.
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Oh, I forgot, there are none.
Mr"
This! Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one  |
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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago
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"Brexit is so shit!! I wanna git pissed in Ibiza on a £9 flight and get rid of all the forinners. I dint vote for all this shit!!
It's not that bad, try thinking about the positives.
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Oh, I forgot, there are none.
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We took back control of our laws |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one "
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
No longer being a member of the EU, means that our agreements with them are no longer valid. There will also be things that WE used to do for European tourists which we will no longer do.
Cal"
Bit Boris said he had an oven ready deal? |
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Well. He's certainly getting brexit done...
But I'm sure the new guy will bring back 'integrity' to a party that basically supported all this nightmarish world as soon as it became popular to do so. |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive."
Which had been in his power to do so anyway.
I believe the only actual Brexit positive is that the lovely relatable wealthy don't have to pay their fair share of taxes, because the icky EU was cracking down on some of their schemes. Isn't it lovely that the mega rich pay less taxes *looks at crumbling infrastructure* |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive."
The UK had negotiated with the EU to be able to remove tax from women's sanitary products prior to the referendum. It was due to be removed in 2017, but then wasn't because of brexit.
So actually Brexit delayed the removal of the tax.
Brexit disbenefit. |
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By *arkjackMan
over a year ago
West Cork |
In my opinion, not a UK citizen, almost everybody has completely misunderstood the meaning of Brexit. You see you could reverse the decision and a similar event would occur - you don't need to look far to see other examples.
This has almost nothing to do with legal systems or even formal institutions. It is about the decay of knowledge, somebody here mentioned crumbling infrastructure, that is true where ever Brexit-ish type scenarios are happening.
Here is a position: it is generally held as true by the middle class that using manual labour skills is not critical, that these are fungible labour units. Suppose that is not true - and I think it explains why western economies are stagnant.
It is also generally held as true that automation, AI etc will change the future. Suppose this is not true - we don't actually see machines that would replace the sorts of skills blue collar workers do in our economy. They are mythological, widely discussed, rare in practice. Almost all development is actually specific to processing of information - which is too specific to give you a fully general improvement in living standards.
tldr; We actually need blue collar economy to be doing well. It isn't - for social and political reasons - and Brexit/Trump are just the start of a reaction against middle class norms. |
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Are we now allowed to show Johnny Foreigner the taste of good old fashioned British steel?? Hey don’t like it up em you know?? Oh hang on British Steel is owned by an Indian company… so instead maybe Johnny Foreigner would like a taste of my Aldi bag… nothing more British than Aldi!!!!!  |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys"
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
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And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’  |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’ "
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre."
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear "
Oh I see.
Hardly their fault that we left the EU though.
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys"
Brexit. That's what.
Otherwise known as shooting yourself in the foot, and blaming the French. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear
Oh I see.
Hardly their fault that we left the EU though.
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agreed but they can choose what legislation needs reviewing … not all obviously but things like disabled accessibility- can’t see there was anything wrong with a mutually respectful reciprocal arrangement. |
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Hardly their fault that we left the EU though.
agreed but they can choose what legislation needs reviewing … not all obviously but things like disabled accessibility- can’t see there was anything wrong with a mutually respectful reciprocal arrangement. "
Also a shame we are no longer allowed to join ERASMUS the EU student exchange programme |
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It's not that bad, try thinking about the positives.
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Oh, I forgot, there are none.
Queuing at Dover for six hours so I can use my blue passport"
Blue yeahhhh!!!
Oggy oggy oggy!!! |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear "
So under what circumstances should the EU not apply their laws to third countries?
To the UK because we're special? Or just when it can whip up an emotional appeal in the right wing rags?
I mean I know the UK regards following international law as optional (#brexitbenefit) but that doesn't mean that other countries have to be lying charlatans too |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre."
There were plenty of people calling out the lies abd predicting the chaos we've ended up with though |
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"You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
There were plenty of people calling out the lies abd predicting the chaos we've ended up with though"
Yeah it's not like it wasn't obvious that they were lying their heads off |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear
So under what circumstances should the EU not apply their laws to third countries?
To the UK because we're special? Or just when it can whip up an emotional appeal in the right wing rags?
I mean I know the UK regards following international law as optional (#brexitbenefit) but that doesn't mean that other countries have to be lying charlatans too "
My point was that on this issue we were aligned and brexit didn’t affect it so why make it an issue especially when the people it hurts the most are the people who need the most support. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear
So under what circumstances should the EU not apply their laws to third countries?
To the UK because we're special? Or just when it can whip up an emotional appeal in the right wing rags?
I mean I know the UK regards following international law as optional (#brexitbenefit) but that doesn't mean that other countries have to be lying charlatans too
My point was that on this issue we were aligned and brexit didn’t affect it so why make it an issue especially when the people it hurts the most are the people who need the most support. "
The UK should have negotiated for it. Evidently they didn't.
We're a third country. We get treated like a third country. Them's the breaks |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
There were plenty of people calling out the lies abd predicting the chaos we've ended up with though
Yeah it's not like it wasn't obvious that they were lying their heads off"
Yeah. But apparently we were all lying about the lies being lies so it's not they're fault they couldn't be arsed to look into the facts behind the implications and instead decided everything posted on bookface that was being circulated daily was the absolute gospel truth and couldn't possible be total bullshit, even though it was being posted by anonymous, Union Jack waving Bulldog profile pictured people called 'Jonny English' who were proud members of 'Brittun Fist' and whose entire profile content was shared 'news' from Breitbart, Nigel Farage and Tommeh Robinson......
Yeah. Not their fault at all.
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"You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
There were plenty of people calling out the lies abd predicting the chaos we've ended up with though"
Brexit voters believed the "project fear" lines, unaware that it would be project reality. |
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"You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
There were plenty of people calling out the lies abd predicting the chaos we've ended up with though
Yeah it's not like it wasn't obvious that they were lying their heads off
Yeah. But apparently we were all lying about the lies being lies so it's not they're fault they couldn't be arsed to look into the facts behind the implications and instead decided everything posted on bookface that was being circulated daily was the absolute gospel truth and couldn't possible be total bullshit, even though it was being posted by anonymous, Union Jack waving Bulldog profile pictured people called 'Jonny English' who were proud members of 'Brittun Fist' and whose entire profile content was shared 'news' from Breitbart, Nigel Farage and Tommeh Robinson......
Yeah. Not their fault at all.
A"
I blame those in power. Both for lying, but also for apparently failing generations by failing to teach them basic critical thinking and source analysis. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear
So under what circumstances should the EU not apply their laws to third countries?
To the UK because we're special? Or just when it can whip up an emotional appeal in the right wing rags?
I mean I know the UK regards following international law as optional (#brexitbenefit) but that doesn't mean that other countries have to be lying charlatans too
My point was that on this issue we were aligned and brexit didn’t affect it so why make it an issue especially when the people it hurts the most are the people who need the most support. "
The government should have tried to align, but there's far to much brexit fall out to get everything.
And why should the EU honour standards that could fall woefully below standard. Non-EU countries could have wildly different criteria for disabled blue parking tickets. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre.
My comments were aimed at the EU legislators not the leave voters- just to Be clear
So under what circumstances should the EU not apply their laws to third countries?
To the UK because we're special? Or just when it can whip up an emotional appeal in the right wing rags?
I mean I know the UK regards following international law as optional (#brexitbenefit) but that doesn't mean that other countries have to be lying charlatans too
My point was that on this issue we were aligned and brexit didn’t affect it so why make it an issue especially when the people it hurts the most are the people who need the most support.
The government should have tried to align, but there's far to much brexit fall out to get everything.
And why should the EU honour standards that could fall woefully below standard. Non-EU countries could have wildly different criteria for disabled blue parking tickets. "
Yup.
In the EU we are now equal to Iran.
Well, maybe lower. Because Iran isn't deliberately and repeatedly trying to tear up oven ready deals.
We're just another rogue state. |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive.
Which had been in his power to do so anyway.
I believe the only actual Brexit positive is that the lovely relatable wealthy don't have to pay their fair share of taxes, because the icky EU was cracking down on some of their schemes. Isn't it lovely that the mega rich pay less taxes *looks at crumbling infrastructure*"
"Less taxes"? In absolute terms, 10% of £1 million is still more than 20% of £90,000? 20% VAT on bills for 'larger' living, such as higher household bills and petrol costs, dining out more frequently, more 'shopping' and so on also contribute their chunk to taxes. You may be talking about overall percentage terms in income tax and 'hidden assets' in offshore accounts but it hardly means they pay "less taxes". |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive.
Which had been in his power to do so anyway.
I believe the only actual Brexit positive is that the lovely relatable wealthy don't have to pay their fair share of taxes, because the icky EU was cracking down on some of their schemes. Isn't it lovely that the mega rich pay less taxes *looks at crumbling infrastructure*
"Less taxes"? In absolute terms, 10% of £1 million is still more than 20% of £90,000? 20% VAT on bills for 'larger' living, such as higher household bills and petrol costs, dining out more frequently, more 'shopping' and so on also contribute their chunk to taxes. You may be talking about overall percentage terms in income tax and 'hidden assets' in offshore accounts but it hardly means they pay "less taxes"."
Oh, let me play my world's smallest violin. Boo hoo. The mega wealthy might be made to pay what they're legally obligated to. What a catastrophe. Won't somebody think of the children |
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I blame those in power. Both for lying, but also for apparently failing generations by failing to teach them basic critical thinking and source analysis."
I blame the idiots that voted for it. And the idiots that never voted against it but now complain about it. |
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I blame those in power. Both for lying, but also for apparently failing generations by failing to teach them basic critical thinking and source analysis.
I blame the idiots that voted for it. And the idiots that never voted against it but now complain about it."
There are degrees of blame to be apportioned. |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive.
Which had been in his power to do so anyway.
I believe the only actual Brexit positive is that the lovely relatable wealthy don't have to pay their fair share of taxes, because the icky EU was cracking down on some of their schemes. Isn't it lovely that the mega rich pay less taxes *looks at crumbling infrastructure*
"Less taxes"? In absolute terms, 10% of £1 million is still more than 20% of £90,000? 20% VAT on bills for 'larger' living, such as higher household bills and petrol costs, dining out more frequently, more 'shopping' and so on also contribute their chunk to taxes. You may be talking about overall percentage terms in income tax and 'hidden assets' in offshore accounts but it hardly means they pay "less taxes".
Oh, let me play my world's smallest violin. Boo hoo. The mega wealthy might be made to pay what they're legally obligated to. What a catastrophe. Won't somebody think of the children "
The thing with estimating wealth is that 'worth' is very different from 'cash'. An inherited mansion may be worth £50 million, hence its owner is worth at least that. In terms of cash, he may not even have enough to pay for the Council Tax on it. |
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"The thing with estimating wealth is that 'worth' is very different from 'cash'. An inherited mansion may be worth £50 million, hence its owner is worth at least that. In terms of cash, he may not even have enough to pay for the Council Tax on it."
He will do once he's sold it |
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"That was the first Brexit positive.
What was the second ?
Sex workers in Kent get more business at the mega truck carparks.
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One less than a mile from me best get myself up there now overtime is extinct!  x |
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"Still waiting for someone to come up with a positive. Still haven’t had one
On the very first day of Brexit freedom, that nice Mr Rishi Sunak abolished the tax on women's sanitary products. That was the first Brexit positive.
Which had been in his power to do so anyway.
I believe the only actual Brexit positive is that the lovely relatable wealthy don't have to pay their fair share of taxes, because the icky EU was cracking down on some of their schemes. Isn't it lovely that the mega rich pay less taxes *looks at crumbling infrastructure*
"Less taxes"? In absolute terms, 10% of £1 million is still more than 20% of £90,000? 20% VAT on bills for 'larger' living, such as higher household bills and petrol costs, dining out more frequently, more 'shopping' and so on also contribute their chunk to taxes. You may be talking about overall percentage terms in income tax and 'hidden assets' in offshore accounts but it hardly means they pay "less taxes".
Oh, let me play my world's smallest violin. Boo hoo. The mega wealthy might be made to pay what they're legally obligated to. What a catastrophe. Won't somebody think of the children
The thing with estimating wealth is that 'worth' is very different from 'cash'. An inherited mansion may be worth £50 million, hence its owner is worth at least that. In terms of cash, he may not even have enough to pay for the Council Tax on it."
In a country where the NHS is on its knees and kids go hungry, I honestly don't give a shit about the money problems of people in that wealth category. |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys
just some of the EU being EU basically ... now we are not part of the groovy gang they dont want to play nicely with us anymore ...
And great that they have targeted such an entitled bunch as the disabled!!!! Sometimes I wonder if these legislators really have a clue about how stuff like this is perceived…. It just seems so small minded petty & bitter as well as contravening everything humanly decent …. Or more ‘what a shitty thing to do - you shower of pricks!!’
You can't blame all leave voters for this.
Most of them had no idea what the implications of the leaving the EU would be. They were lied to left right and centre."
We can blame them all! I'm thick as shit and I could see what would happen once we were out! X |
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As a blue badge holder who travels to EU countries, hires cars etc fairly regularly, this is fucking annoying. Accessibility in many EU countries is also challenging and so not being able to park in designated disabled parking areas, for example, in Toledo, would preclude me from actually going there. I'm a very independent, well travelled wheelchair user, but I have my physical limits. The disabled parking is there for a reason. |
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"As a blue badge holder who travels to EU countries, hires cars etc fairly regularly, this is fucking annoying. Accessibility in many EU countries is also challenging and so not being able to park in designated disabled parking areas, for example, in Toledo, would preclude me from actually going there. I'm a very independent, well travelled wheelchair user, but I have my physical limits. The disabled parking is there for a reason. "
Do other countries have a system that you could use/ apply for in advance? Or is it ridiculously difficult for a tourist? |
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"News that European Countries may not recognise our blue badge holders. What's going on here guys"
Blimey... We will be having bendy cucumbers and bananas again soon. Cue the brexit barrage as usual.
Why any entity would choose to take away some of the few hard fought and won modifications the world has made that benefit the disabled who knows. Wouldn't be shit stirring reporting would it? |
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"As a blue badge holder who travels to EU countries, hires cars etc fairly regularly, this is fucking annoying. Accessibility in many EU countries is also challenging and so not being able to park in designated disabled parking areas, for example, in Toledo, would preclude me from actually going there. I'm a very independent, well travelled wheelchair user, but I have my physical limits. The disabled parking is there for a reason.
Do other countries have a system that you could use/ apply for in advance? Or is it ridiculously difficult for a tourist? "
I have no idea but it would be incredibly onerous to do and might require knowledge of the local language to apply. The UK doesn't offer temporary badges, so it wouldn't be daft to assume other countries don't either. |
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"According to the BBC news, you are advised to contact the Embassies or Consulates of EU member countries for information. "
Great. More penalty for being disabled and wanting to travel. It's already a giant ball ache to plan all the extra assistance etc. |
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Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU. |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU. "
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ? |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?"
Because we would act on a reciprocal basis for any French people coming here.
I do despair at the current level of politicians, diplomats and civil servants these days, forgetting the wishes & needs of the people they serve. It’s almost as if they don’t like us plebs getting out and about, possibly blocking the VIP & diplomatic lanes. |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU. "
It's not just people from Britain though it is people from any 3rd country. We are now a 3rd country so we have to go by the same rules as all the others. |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU. "
We did have this. People didn't wanted it and voted leave. Fuck knows why.
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
It's not just people from Britain though it is people from any 3rd country. We are now a 3rd country so we have to go by the same rules as all the others. "
How are the EU supposed to keep track of all third party blue badge standards, what happens if Mongolia start giving them to ginger haired people. Hardly fair that gingers can park in disabled spots. |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?"
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they? |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they? "
Why did people vote to lose the help in the EU for disabled people? |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they? "
As far as I know the UK doesn’t let badge holders from every country in the world use their badges here! |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they? "
It'd be very nice if they did, but unfortunately when we left the EU, we opted to get in the queue with countries like Iran. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they?
As far as I know the UK doesn’t let badge holders from every country in the world use their badges here! "
We don't, but that's okay because they are foreign abd we took back control. Obviously when we tear up reciprocal agreements it is only an issue to the press when Brits abroad are inconvenienced! |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they?
As far as I know the UK doesn’t let badge holders from every country in the world use their badges here! "
Well if that's the case... That's pretty shitty too. |
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"Don't get it... So if you're a blue badge holder of any other country, and travel to EU, then they honor whatever small conveniences the blue badge confers. But if its a British blue badge... Get to fuck? Seriously? Is there anything else than politics in that decision? Disgraceful of the EU.
Why should the EU give us benefits when we chose to opt out of the EU ?
Errr why should the EU help disabled people? Sure...why should they?
As far as I know the UK doesn’t let badge holders from every country in the world use their badges here!
We don't, but that's okay because they are foreign abd we took back control. Obviously when we tear up reciprocal agreements it is only an issue to the press when Brits abroad are inconvenienced!"
Reciprocal agreements we need to do something.
No agreement means they still need to cater to us, because we're very special snowflakes  |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?"
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. "
so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair "
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair "
And EU citizens aren't entitled to disabled parking in the UK, so it's kind of fair and definitely consistent |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. "
I wasn’t aware of how it works but now it seems fair |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. I wasn’t aware of how it works but now it seems fair "
Yeah it's not a we are punishing you for leaving kind of thing. |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. I wasn’t aware of how it works but now it seems fair
Yeah it's not a we are punishing you for leaving kind of thing. "
it seems to be portrayed that way I thought that when I first heard it but now you’ve explained how it works it seems fair |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. I wasn’t aware of how it works but now it seems fair
Yeah it's not a we are punishing you for leaving kind of thing. it seems to be portrayed that way I thought that when I first heard it but now you’ve explained how it works it seems fair "
I can see how you would come to that conclusion as the OP has framed it that way. |
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i didnt vote leave and if had a chance to vote again i still would not but..... as someone said to me the other day why is there now no polictical views with any party to reverse it ...
as for those no wanting foreigners well its not worked as we no longer get eu workers we are now getting them from asia on work visa instead ... hate calling them foreigners they are people and we need people in this country |
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"Are they still allowed to park in a disabled bay but can’t use the badge to park for free?
You cannot park in a disabled Bay without a badge. Contrary to popular belief you are not automatically entitled to free parking everywhere with a blue badge anyway. so bluebadge holders can’t park in the disabled bays in Europe at all now ? Seems unfair
Why is it unfair? People from non EU countries can't use theirs either, we are now no longer an Eu country. I wasn’t aware of how it works but now it seems fair
Yeah it's not a we are punishing you for leaving kind of thing. it seems to be portrayed that way I thought that when I first heard it but now you’ve explained how it works it seems fair
I can see how you would come to that conclusion as the OP has framed it that way. "
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"i didnt vote leave and if had a chance to vote again i still would not but..... as someone said to me the other day why is there now no polictical views with any party to reverse it ...
as for those no wanting foreigners well its not worked as we no longer get eu workers we are now getting them from asia on work visa instead ... hate calling them foreigners they are people and we need people in this country "
Same.
I suspect all the parties are all too afraid to lose votes by having an honest appraisal of brexit or even discussing how to mitigate against the problems it's caused. |
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"i didnt vote leave and if had a chance to vote again i still would not but..... as someone said to me the other day why is there now no polictical views with any party to reverse it ...
as for those no wanting foreigners well its not worked as we no longer get eu workers we are now getting them from asia on work visa instead ... hate calling them foreigners they are people and we need people in this country "
I tend to agree... There wasn't much of a meaningful debate in the run up to it... In the "negotiation" process and since b day. Shame on our political process. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"Another storm in a tea cup.
When HMG gets round to implementing into uk law Cemt Resolution 97/4 - everything sorted .
I bet when they do, it won’t be all over the news   "
Amy idea when they might get round to it? |
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"Another storm in a tea cup.
When HMG gets round to implementing into uk law Cemt Resolution 97/4 - everything sorted .
I bet when they do, it won’t be all over the news
Amy idea when they might get round to it?"
Sometime in the next hundred years, maybe? It certainly won't be top of the priority list. We haven't even bothered to negotiate reciprocal agreements for high level academic investigation, like the European Space Agency projects that British based academics are now being booted out of. Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving. I don't have words to describe how much I hate it. |
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"Another storm in a tea cup.
When HMG gets round to implementing into uk law Cemt Resolution 97/4 - everything sorted .
I bet when they do, it won’t be all over the news
Amy idea when they might get round to it?
Sometime in the next hundred years, maybe? It certainly won't be top of the priority list. We haven't even bothered to negotiate reciprocal agreements for high level academic investigation, like the European Space Agency projects that British based academics are now being booted out of. Brexit, the gift that keeps on giving. I don't have words to describe how much I hate it. "
Indeed. And hardly a storm in a teacup for those who have to live with the consequences of our government's gross failings. |
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