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Which band / artist do you regret not seeing live yet??
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen" I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! | |||
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"Never got to see Steve Marriott a sadly never will." Me neither. One of the greatest singers of all time | |||
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"Fleetwood Mac but I’m afraid that ship has sailed now "Saw them at Isle of Wight Festival 7 years ago. They were awesome! | |||
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"System of a Down is still on the To-Do list but the chances grow slimmer and slimmer "Rumours they are playing Download next year. Seen them once very good | |||
"I would absolutely love to see Shakira naked " Me too......me too. 
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"Eminem at his peak. I don’t really like his new stuff or the way his voice has changed so although it would still be amazing it wouldn’t be the same." Saw him in 2001 still doing his chainsaw thing. He was ok but we didn’t watch the whole show but with D12, on the same day, it’s brilliant! | |||
"Rory,saw him twice,blistering guitarist." I'm quite envious. | |||
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"Iron Maiden" They're fantastic live! | |||
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"Queen Iron maiden Guns n roses" … I saw Guns and Roses live many many years ago, they were great | |||
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"Wether still going or not .. Personally for me I've not yet seen RHCP live yet or Pink !! What's your choices ?? "I've seen RHCP a few times. 2003 at Hyde Park was the best imo. I'd love to have seen Johnny Cash, had tickets to MJ's o2 dates. | |||
"Bon Scott fronted Ac/Dc. " Same here, most of the bands mention on here I've seen | |||
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In the last 10 years I had plans for
Stevie Wonder (cancelled)
Brian Wilson (postponed to promote Love & Mercy film- then cancelled)
Toots & the Maytals (Went ahead without Toots- who then died not long after)
Rolling Stones (Charlie died)
ZZ Top (Dusty died)
I also worked on gigs for
Motorhead
Linkin Park
Prodigy
Prince
Depeche Mode
Meatloaf
Status Quo
Prince
Leonard Cohen
The Charlatans
None of the above escaped without casualties, so if you're a musician- might be best to keep your distance  | |||
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"Queen Iron maiden Guns n roses … I saw Guns and Roses live many many years ago, they were great " sooooo jealous | |||
"I'm either cursed or I keep killing people
In the last 10 years I had plans for
Stevie Wonder (cancelled)
Brian Wilson (postponed to promote Love & Mercy film- then cancelled)
Toots & the Maytals (Went ahead without Toots- who then died not long after)
Rolling Stones (Charlie died)
ZZ Top (Dusty died)
I also worked on gigs for
Motorhead
Linkin Park
Prodigy
Prince
Depeche Mode
Meatloaf
Status Quo
Prince
Leonard Cohen
The Charlatans
None of the above escaped without casualties, so if you're a musician- might be best to keep your distance "11 years today since Amy Winehouse died. You got Prince in there twice  | |||
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"The three bands I want to see most that I haven't seen yet are: W.E.T. Eclipse Nightwish I will be most disappointed if I never see those three. Historically it's Rory Gallagher." Seen Nightwish with all three singers. Tarje had crap stage prescence, Anette just didnt have the vocal ability, Floor is definitely the best, live anyway. | |||
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"The three bands I want to see most that I haven't seen yet are: W.E.T. Eclipse Nightwish I will be most disappointed if I never see those three. Historically it's Rory Gallagher. Seen Nightwish with all three singers. Tarje had crap stage prescence, Anette just didnt have the vocal ability, Floor is definitely the best, live anyway." I'm not a fan of the Tarje era. She's very one dimensional and wooden on stage from the videos I've seen. Annette was fantastic in the studio. Floor is simply incredible, especially when Marco was singing backup. | |||
"I'm either cursed or I keep killing people
In the last 10 years I had plans for
Stevie Wonder (cancelled)
Brian Wilson (postponed to promote Love & Mercy film- then cancelled)
Toots & the Maytals (Went ahead without Toots- who then died not long after)
Rolling Stones (Charlie died)
ZZ Top (Dusty died)
I also worked on gigs for
Motorhead
Linkin Park
Prodigy
Prince
Depeche Mode
Meatloaf
Status Quo
Prince
Leonard Cohen
The Charlatans
None of the above escaped without casualties, so if you're a musician- might be best to keep your distance "Nothing personal but I'm just gonna block you..  | |||
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"U2 Coldplay " Two bands I'm glad I haven't seen | |||
"Bon Scott Was lucky enough to see AC/DC with Bon in Nov 79 ( i say see, but I was a short ass 15 years old - so hear ! ) Row G Hammersmith Odrin. I guess I saw him when he strode by with Angus on his shoulders "I bet that was awesome Loved Hammy O as a venue | |||
"Van Halen, had tickets to see them in 92 but the date clashed with something I couldn’t get out of so I just figured I’d catch them again sometime. They rarely travelled to the U.K. after that and never did get to see them live" I saw them every time they came to the UK from 1984 onwards. I saw them in Ft Lauderdale on the reunion tour with Dave too. They were awful. The greatest rock band ever were just a has-been nostalgia act. | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's!" Really? I’m pretty sure that Ian Curtis was dead by the time the Smiths came along. | |||
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"Never got to see Steve Marriott a sadly never will." Still you can go and stay in one of his hotels. | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's!" How did you manage that? Joy Division finished before The Smiths existed surely? | |||
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"Queen Pantera RATM and before someone says Pantera are touring next year it will be a poor shadow of its former self. " Great choices, and agree, it's not Pantera without Dimebag and Vinnie Paul | |||
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"Bon Scott Was lucky enough to see AC/DC with Bon in Nov 79 ( i say see, but I was a short ass 15 years old - so hear ! ) Row G Hammersmith Odrin. I guess I saw him when he strode by with Angus on his shoulders
I bet that was awesome
Loved Hammy O as a venue"Can't reply privately - but although long time ago, loud, frenzied and lots of headbanging! Couple of years later I stopped the latter so I could see the bands. Hammy O great venue. Motorhead Bomber tour another great night - Classic line up | |||
"This isn't meant as a humble brag, but this thread makes me feel lucky (the best gigs thread recently did too for similar reasons) I've been to a lot of gigs, at one time 2 or 3 a week and I feel so lucky to have seen so many of the bands and singers mentioned on this thread. Mind you, I've also seen Razorlight so yo know my gig history has had it's low points too!" To be fair first album Razorlight were pretty good live, it's when they did shite like America I gave up. | |||
"Bon Scott Was lucky enough to see AC/DC with Bon in Nov 79 ( i say see, but I was a short ass 15 years old - so hear ! ) Row G Hammersmith Odrin. I guess I saw him when he strode by with Angus on his shoulders
I bet that was awesome
Loved Hammy O as a venue
Can't reply privately - but although long time ago, loud, frenzied and lots of headbanging! Couple of years later I stopped the latter so I could see the bands. Hammy O great venue. Motorhead Bomber tour another great night - Classic line up"I saw Motorhead there in 85 on their 10th anniversary show first of many times I saw them,and up until Rammstein a few weeks ago Motorhead were the loudest band I've ever seen | |||
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"Steel panther With all the fun going on Seems something worthwhile to visit live " Always a great array of boobs around too. | |||
"This isn't meant as a humble brag, but this thread makes me feel lucky (the best gigs thread recently did too for similar reasons) I've been to a lot of gigs, at one time 2 or 3 a week and I feel so lucky to have seen so many of the bands and singers mentioned on this thread. Mind you, I've also seen Razorlight so yo know my gig history has had it's low points too!" Yeah seen many listed too. But then realised it was all pre-6 or 7 years ago. Made me feel a bit sad I don't get to many anymore. | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's!" I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? | |||
"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division?" Gotta love a music nerd, I love it when people swear they've seen bands or gigs when factually it's impossible | |||
"Nine Inch Nails, Rage Against The Machine, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie" I've been to way in excess of a 1000 gigs and NIN are one of my top five- it just has the most intense atmosphere where a 15000 audience gig feels like its 150 people in a small underground private club- very hard to describe it accurately but make sure you go and see them if you can | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division?" Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! | |||
"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! " Fair enough. | |||
"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! Fair enough. " Is that your way of apologising for suggesting I'm a blatent liar? | |||
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"AC/DC with Bon Scott Sensational Alex Harvey Band (With Alex) I’ve seen later iterations of these. Every Time I Die, had tickets but missed out on these twice, now disbanded." And Genesis with PG, I saw them at MK Bowl in 1982? For the Six of the Best one off, but that gig was beset with problems and I’d like to have seen them at their pomp. | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! Fair enough. Is that your way of apologising for suggesting I'm a blatent liar?" No, I'm not apologising. I either said your were mistaken or a liar, it was definitely going to be one or the other. Not my fault you don't know the difference between The Buzzcocks and The Smiths. | |||
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"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! Fair enough. Is that your way of apologising for suggesting I'm a blatent liar? No, I'm not apologising. I either said your were mistaken or a liar, it was definitely going to be one or the other. Not my fault you don't know the difference between The Buzzcocks and The Smiths." Of course I know the difference the difference between the Smiths and the Buzzcocks, those gigs were about 40 years ago!!!! Stop being so patronising. You suggested I might be blatantly lying without even bothering to find out from me whether I'd misremembered something that happened over 40 years ago. It's really offensive to accuse someone of lying when they aren't. Ironic that you list bad manners, self entitlement and arrogance as your profile dislikes, take a look in the mirror sometime! | |||
"George Michael " saw him 3 times one of those times I was in the golden circle right at the front it was amazing | |||
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"Tears for Fears Bit late now - Michael Jackson If only he died later in life - Elvis Presley" I saw MJ twice At Wembley he was amazing (Dangerous tour), but at Don Valley he was crap, clearly lip syncing and forgetting words to many of the songs and very preoccupied with the kids on stage (History tour). | |||
"Queen, Pink Floyd, Eric Clapton, The Eagles... there is so many great bands and artists out there... I try to see as many as I can... Live music is the best..." went to see queen 5 times in the 70s and 80s. Big fan. Amazing x | |||
"I’ve not saw Bon Jovi yet. Wish I’d went when they were doing the Slippery When Wet tour." I did Hammersmith Odeon Nov 17th 86, they were shit | |||
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"I’ve not saw Bon Jovi yet. Wish I’d went when they were doing the Slippery When Wet tour." Bon Jovi were the first hand I saw live. 'Keep the Faith' Tour 1994. And I that's when I discovered that Wembley Arena is a shit venue. I've seen Chris Cornell live. With Audios*lave and solo. But never get to witness Soundgarden live. | |||
"Of bands I could and should have seen I'm still not sure how I never saw Sonic Youth or Fugazi. Was too young to see Joy Division or The Smiths and I would have loved to have seen I was lucky enough to see both a few times, in fact the first time I saw Joy Division they were supporting The Smith's! I don't want to be that guy, but I'm a big fan of both of these bands and this can't be possibly true. You're either very much mistaken or you're blatantly lying. Joy Division ceased to exist as Joy Division after Ian Curtis' suicide in May 1980. Johnny Marr was only 16 at this time and The Smiths formed in 1982. Joy Division went on to become New Order, and in 1982, New Order released Blue Monday, an absolute huge hit. The Smiths released their first album in 1984. Now you may be confusing Joy Division with New Order, but for New Order to support The Smiths, although not impossible, probably very unlikely, seeing they were a huge band in their own right. Also Joy Division and New Order were musically pretty different, so quite difficult to confuse each other with, I would have thought. Are you sure you're thinking of Joy Division? Actually you are right, it was the Buzzcocks NOT the Smiths! I saw both at Guildford Civic Hall. Joy Division supported the Buzzcocks on the 1st November 1979 and James supported the Smiths on the 28th February 1985. And yes, I know all about New Order, I saw them at Brighton Jenkinsons and Reading University in 1981. It was a genuine mistake NOT a blatant lie!!!! Fair enough. Is that your way of apologising for suggesting I'm a blatent liar? No, I'm not apologising. I either said your were mistaken or a liar, it was definitely going to be one or the other. Not my fault you don't know the difference between The Buzzcocks and The Smiths. Of course I know the difference the difference between the Smiths and the Buzzcocks, those gigs were about 40 years ago!!!! Stop being so patronising. You suggested I might be blatantly lying without even bothering to find out from me whether I'd misremembered something that happened over 40 years ago. It's really offensive to accuse someone of lying when they aren't. Ironic that you list bad manners, self entitlement and arrogance as your profile dislikes, take a look in the mirror sometime!" Okay fair enough. I do apologise, you're right, I jumped the gun and made an unfair assumption. I genuinely didn't mean to offend and the tone of my initial post was definitely off. I should have approached it differently. I have mild autism, which means I like facts and figures, hence being a stickler for accuracy, but it also means I can be quite blunt sometimes. I am genuinely sorry. I hope you have a good day | |||
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"Lemmy and Motorhead. "They were loud…….. very loud!! | |||
"Lemmy and Motorhead.
They were loud…….. very loud!! "Yes I have a load of mates that went to see them many times and they always said that. Kick myself now for never going with them to see him. | |||
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"Lemmy and Motorhead.
They were loud…….. very loud!! "Leicester University Orgasmatron tour86/7, still the loudest indoor show I've been to | |||
"Lemmy and Motorhead.
They were loud…….. very loud!!
Leicester University Orgasmatron tour86/7, still the loudest indoor show I've been to "Went to see them at the Cliffs Pavillion in Southend, could barely hear a thing for three days afterwards, my ears didn’t stop ringing | |||
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"Elvis, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Tony Joe White, David Bowie and Jerry Reed. Bring on the holagram concerts. "I think they are all working on it. It’s the future. | |||
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"Elvis, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Tony Joe White, David Bowie and Jerry Reed. Bring on the holagram concerts.
I think they are all working on it. It’s the future."We went to see the Abba show on Sunday, absolutely jaw dropping. I think it is the future but the technology involved is going to make it very expensive so I think it will only be a very few artists that can sustain a king run of shows (Abba are going on until 2024 I think). I can see Any Winehouse and Michael Jackson being done, the Beatles in the Sgt Pepper era would be good too. | |||
"Slipknot, System of a down and Rammstein Those are probably the three I need to see. Slipknot I would have preferred to have seen already but unfortunately it’s not been the case " I saw Slipknot several years ago, not a massive fan but my them partner was. So wasn't sure what to expect but it's one of the best gigs I've ever seen | |||
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"Slipknot, System of a down and Rammstein Those are probably the three I need to see. Slipknot I would have preferred to have seen already but unfortunately it’s not been the case I saw Slipknot several years ago, not a massive fan but my them partner was. So wasn't sure what to expect but it's one of the best gigs I've ever seen" I’d have really rather seen them before Paul died but I’ll just take what I can get
Also Guns n Roses. I saw Axl Rose and friends but I doubt it was the same | |||
"Slipknot, System of a down and Rammstein Those are probably the three I need to see. Slipknot I would have preferred to have seen already but unfortunately it’s not been the case " Rammstein were awesome in Cardiff last month | |||
"Slipknot, System of a down and Rammstein Those are probably the three I need to see. Slipknot I would have preferred to have seen already but unfortunately it’s not been the case Rammstein were awesome in Cardiff last month" I was going to be seeing them on this tour but financially couldn’t do it. I’m hoping to catch Godsmack for the first time in Glasgow this year if the bank allows it | |||
"Slipknot, System of a down and Rammstein Those are probably the three I need to see. Slipknot I would have preferred to have seen already but unfortunately it’s not been the case Rammstein were awesome in Cardiff last month I was going to be seeing them on this tour but financially couldn’t do it. I’m hoping to catch Godsmack for the first time in Glasgow this year if the bank allows it " Ticket prices for shows like that are crazy, that why I didn't see Maiden this time round. Rather spend that sort of cash on smaller gigs. Lawnmower Deth on Sat and Anti Flag the Saturday after | |||
