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WWE or Aew… part 2 the wrestling thread
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Well the old one is full and I suppose we can call this the wrestling thread for now..
Anyway… vince has retired from wwe as ceo of the company
And in response apparently brick lesner has walked out of smackdown as well… let’s see if he gets the same unprofessional tag that Sasha and Naomi got
Anyway.. I’m a AEW and new Japan fan… just interested in wwe fans views of what has happened |
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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
I dont really watch wwe so much anymore since the brock lesnar days, but I like vince and I can guess that it wont be the same without him. I did hear that he will remain involved in wwe's creative content, the company said  |
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
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"vince has retired from wwe as ceo of the company"
As we said last night when we found out... What other allegations are about to come out?! What's he done than is worse than what we already know about? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would say its a PR stunt to dissociate him with the company. He will probably still be pulling all the strings but as wwe is so PG, he can't be the face of the company anymore. It lost it's way a long time ago and any true wrestling fan, AEW is the place you need to be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Was never a huge WWF or WWE fan. First got into watching when TNA came about and now AEW.
Usually spend my Friday nights watching the highlights, if have not taped so can skip all the ad breaks. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Anyway shed loads has changed…
In wwe.. vince came Back to take control (like it’s own season of succession!) and then merged/sold it to the parent company of UFC
In AEW, tony khan has decided to swing for the fences and has announced the biggest show in AEW for Wembley stadium on the Sunday of august bank holiday weekend! Will he sale out 80-90k??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I reckon AEW will do a big number at Wembley Stadium. I don't think it's a sell out but I reckon they will sell a ton of merch. Fair play for them to do Wembley Stadium, I thought they would do either O2 or Wembley Arena for the first UK show.
Tempted to get a ticket but I'm dreading the prices. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Already have tickets for something else that day so can't go gutted! But they will 100% sell out, especially if its a one off show. I'd rather watch one expensive show of that then sit through the horror that is wwe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've tried getting into AEW but I just can't, even when they had CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and Adam Col all join at pretty much the same time. It felt like there was too much to keep on top of and you were expected to know the indie backstory to every wrestler without actually explaining the character or why we should care. The closest they came is the Adam Page storyline with Kenny Omega. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wwe never been the same since the attitude era, the good old days."
Seconded, the Attitude Era was WWF/WWE at its best. Raw and Smackdown were exhilarating shows, the pay-per-view shows were fewer than now and better because of they were fewer.
Sadly since the advent of the PG tag wrestling has lost its edge at the same time it lost its biggest names. The Attitude Era passed and what we have now are a bunch of pretty-boi posers who talk a lot with little action, it is more soap opera now than it ever was.
Only standouts in the current crop are Bray Wyatt, but seems he may have been sidelined with Vince back in charge.
Never got what people see in Roman Reigns, overbloated ego with zero talent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I can't get into AEW for some reason it's just not grabbing me.
I haven't watched wwe in a long time.
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I've watched AEW from their very first show so followed it from day 1 , plus one of my all time favourite wrestlers Jeff Hardy has just returned |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wwe never been the same since the attitude era, the good old days.
Seconded, the Attitude Era was WWF/WWE at its best. Raw and Smackdown were exhilarating shows, the pay-per-view shows were fewer than now and better because of they were fewer.
Sadly since the advent of the PG tag wrestling has lost its edge at the same time it lost its biggest names. The Attitude Era passed and what we have now are a bunch of pretty-boi posers who talk a lot with little action, it is more soap opera now than it ever was.
Only standouts in the current crop are Bray Wyatt, but seems he may have been sidelined with Vince back in charge.
Never got what people see in Roman Reigns, overbloated ego with zero talent. "
I loved attitude era but I really enjoyed the ruthless aggression era too. Felt like a slightly less mental attitude era with more emphasis on wrestling, particularly on Smackdown.
Reigns title reign has gone on far too long but I feel people wouldn't have been so sick of it if he hadn't been shoved down our throats for a decade. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wwe never been the same since the attitude era, the good old days.
Seconded, the Attitude Era was WWF/WWE at its best. Raw and Smackdown were exhilarating shows, the pay-per-view shows were fewer than now and better because of they were fewer.
Sadly since the advent of the PG tag wrestling has lost its edge at the same time it lost its biggest names. The Attitude Era passed and what we have now are a bunch of pretty-boi posers who talk a lot with little action, it is more soap opera now than it ever was.
Only standouts in the current crop are Bray Wyatt, but seems he may have been sidelined with Vince back in charge.
Never got what people see in Roman Reigns, overbloated ego with zero talent.
I loved attitude era but I really enjoyed the ruthless aggression era too. Felt like a slightly less mental attitude era with more emphasis on wrestling, particularly on Smackdown.
Reigns title reign has gone on far too long but I feel people wouldn't have been so sick of it if he hadn't been shoved down our throats for a decade."
Reigns reign needs to end, he never wins straight, mainly because I don't think he can anymore. There needs to be either a cage match, or lumberjack match so his interface crew can be cancelled out.
Read somewhere that all the other titles have changed hands 65 times since Reigns won, that is ridiculous, it's harping back to the 1970s/1980s when world champions held the belt for years. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I've tried getting into AEW but I just can't, even when they had CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and Adam Col all join at pretty much the same time. It felt like there was too much to keep on top of and you were expected to know the indie backstory to every wrestler without actually explaining the character or why we should care. The closest they came is the Adam Page storyline with Kenny Omega."
I think the issue is a lot of AEW fans were turned off by the main roster WWE and had New Japan and ROH backgrounds and even didn’t forget them when they went to NXT……
Watching the original BTE also helped |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We watch impact wrestling. Wwe is boring and AEW really hasn’t. Gripped us yet even tho we keep trying lol
Where do you watch impact? On YT??
We have the impact app subscription "
Mickie James just relinquished her Knockouts Championship. Impacts had their 2 top champions vacate within 2 weeks of each other. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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stopped watching wwf/e back in 2002 and found the then wrestling channel. found loads on there. still watch roh and njpw.
went to roh/ njpw/ cmll/ rpw show back in 2017, was front row. met the bucks and managed to quickly get my ugly mug on BTE |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Ticketmaster have released the seating plan for AEW All In UK. £1500 for ringside (possibly VIP too) to £45/30 up in the rafters."
I did see that… I am guessing they are going to have some big screens above the ring… so the 30/45’s might not have the worst view in the world… I saw the seating plan… I actually fancy the back of the floor seating at 75…. But I’ll see what is available for the pre sale on Tuesday |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Would love to go to Wembley but can't justify paying the travel and accommodation costs on top of ticket prices (especially if I'm also paying for play-off final tickets).
Hopefully AEW will be in the North East soon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Would love to go to Wembley but can't justify paying the travel and accommodation costs on top of ticket prices (especially if I'm also paying for play-off final tickets).
Hopefully AEW will be in the North East soon."
Yeah plus hotel prices will be higher than normal. Some of the prices when WWE came to Cardiff were eye watering. Maybe they'll do a UK tour some time and do episodes of Dynamite and Rampage. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"nope
will wait til thursday for the TM pre to see whats there
could have had 2 near stage but cant afford what asking"
I got mine.. I’m chuffed!! 35,000 sold on presale day 1! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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and im all in
mam and couple of district nurses spoke about this secretly and was told this morning if there were still some left, i can get 2 hospitality for me and mate ( he also knew...bastard)
as i had a horrible year last year this was needed |
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"Ticketmaster have released the seating plan for AEW All In UK. £1500 for ringside (possibly VIP too) to £45/30 up in the rafters.
I did see that… I am guessing they are going to have some big screens above the ring… so the 30/45’s might not have the worst view in the world… I saw the seating plan… I actually fancy the back of the floor seating at 75…. But I’ll see what is available for the pre sale on Tuesday "
I heard that for big shows like that you end up watching the screens anyway, so either way you'll have a good view.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did you watch the FTR - Bullet Club Gold 2/3 falls tag team title bout this week….
All time classic banger!!!!"
AEW fan here. Massive respect to both FTR and Bullet Club Gold! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do find it interesting how much short cuts and cheating they have brought into wrestling as ic to say the end justifies the means.
Makes interesting watching |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've tried getting into AEW but I just can't, even when they had CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and Adam Col all join at pretty much the same time. It felt like there was too much to keep on top of and you were expected to know the indie backstory to every wrestler without actually explaining the character or why we should care. The closest they came is the Adam Page storyline with Kenny Omega.
I think the issue is a lot of AEW fans were turned off by the main roster WWE and had New Japan and ROH backgrounds and even didn’t forget them when they went to NXT……
Watching the original BTE also helped "
I think it's also done brilliantly for the crowds. The jaded WWE fans have something fresh to watch and attend AEW shows and the demographic for WWE seem genuinely happy to be there. I only watch WWE and the reactions some of the wrestlers are getting is fantastic to watch |
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I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In? |
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"I've tried getting into AEW but I just can't, even when they had CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, and Adam Col all join at pretty much the same time. It felt like there was too much to keep on top of and you were expected to know the indie backstory to every wrestler without actually explaining the character or why we should care. The closest they came is the Adam Page storyline with Kenny Omega.
I think the issue is a lot of AEW fans were turned off by the main roster WWE and had New Japan and ROH backgrounds and even didn’t forget them when they went to NXT……
Watching the original BTE also helped
I think it's also done brilliantly for the crowds. The jaded WWE fans have something fresh to watch and attend AEW shows and the demographic for WWE seem genuinely happy to be there. I only watch WWE and the reactions some of the wrestlers are getting is fantastic to watch"
I agree! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In?"
Yes sir, I'm booked in! You? |
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"I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In?
Yes sir, I'm booked in! You?"
Yeah mate. I've got my tickets! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In?
Yes sir, I'm booked in! You?
Yeah mate. I've got my tickets! "
Be interesting to see if the arrest today of one half of FTR will have any impact on All In |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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"I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In?
Yes sir, I'm booked in! You?
Yeah mate. I've got my tickets!
Be interesting to see if the arrest today of one half of FTR will have any impact on All In "
Depending on what the charge is he may not be allowed to enter the country… also it’s going to depend on his bail conditions |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't doubt the reason WWE have upped their game over the past couple of years is some real competition. AEW will never be on the popularity level of WWE but it's helped.
Is anyone going to All In?
Yes sir, I'm booked in! You?
Yeah mate. I've got my tickets!
Be interesting to see if the arrest today of one half of FTR will have any impact on All In
Depending on what the charge is he may not be allowed to enter the country… also it’s going to depend on his bail conditions "
Indeed. Supposedly aggregated assault with a fire arm |
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"So who's going to be at Wembley this Sunday? Me and the wife will be there and not against making some plans after forbthe right person/people"
I will be there on Sunday, staying in potter's bar area afterwards aswell |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So who's going to be at Wembley this Sunday? Me and the wife will be there and not against making some plans after forbthe right person/people"
Yeah driving down Friday night overnight and staying Saturday in hotel near Wembley Stadium. You got any plans?.  |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"So who's going to be at Wembley this Sunday? Me and the wife will be there and not against making some plans after forbthe right person/people"
I’ll be there.. I am driving down on Sunday morning and going to park at my “secret” underground station (can’t tell you which as you’ll all park there)
Anyway.. we know it needs to end at 10 for regulations… then I have the choice of whether to stay at my sisters or drive back |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Man…. All In was an absolute blast!!!!
If you get the chance to go next year… absolutely do!!!
P.s if that was you that started the “wheeler has a gun” chant….. you are a genius!!!!
If you didn’t get the chance to go… and want to see it, it’s being shown on ITV 4 at 9pm Thursday night  |
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What a night that was, struggled a little through zero hour and the woman's match definitely could of done with abit more time to breathe but absolutely loved the rest of the night and the MJF/Cole match was played perfectly. Roll on August 25th |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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CM Punk has just been fired by AEW. Statement released by Tony Khan
“Phil played an important role within AEW and I thank him for his contributions. The termination of his AEW contracts with cause is ultimately my decision, and mine alone. Of course, I wish I didn’t have to share this news, which may come as a disappointment to many of our fans. Nevertheless, I am making the decision in the best interests of the many amazing people who make AEW possible every week – our talent, staff, venue operators and many others whose efforts are unsung but essential to bringing our fans great shows on television and at arenas and stadiums throughout the world.” |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It was amazing! Already planning to come for All In 2024 Could be enough here for an August 24th 2024 fab wrestling social if people were keen! "
Considering it was a pay per view I was surprised to see itv4 show it on Thursday, minus zero hour |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm actually pretty shocked by CM Punk's release but I will say that as a non-AEW fan that keeps up with what's going on, the fact I know more about what went on with him compared to their biggest show ever after selling out Wembley speaks volumes about how much he's overshadowed the product.
The benefit of having him there now isn't worth the drama that comes with him and think AEW can now hopefully move forward in a positive direction. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yeah one man doesn't make a company but he certainly made them more legitimate! It was his time to go. Just need to focus on getting AEW back to being a great product. Tony definitely needs help with booking the product, think 3 shows is too much for him to handle on his own. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Once Stone Cold left and it turned in to PG wrestling I lost interest. "
When the Attitude Era ended I lost interest. Of the current crop none grab my attention, LA Knight has potential but everyone is obsessed with the over-hyped/under-talented Dominic Mysterio, so I think LAK will be wasted on mid-card matches.
One thing they need to do is end this Roman Reigns/Tribal Chief farce. It's boring and has dragged on too long.
Sadly the possible future of wrestling has just died. Windham Rotunda (Bray Wyatt) had the potential to be an Undertaker level longevity star who could have carried the WWE for the next 10-15yrs. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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"Yeah one man doesn't make a company but he certainly made them more legitimate! It was his time to go. Just need to focus on getting AEW back to being a great product. Tony definitely needs help with booking the product, think 3 shows is too much for him to handle on his own. "
The Chicago crowd for collision last night were a lot more reasonable than I was expecting! Let see what people are like for all out tonight!
As soon as I heard the words “with cause” in the statement I said to someone else they have Wembley’s CCTV footage! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah one man doesn't make a company but he certainly made them more legitimate! It was his time to go. Just need to focus on getting AEW back to being a great product. Tony definitely needs help with booking the product, think 3 shows is too much for him to handle on his own.
The Chicago crowd for collision last night were a lot more reasonable than I was expecting! Let see what people are like for all out tonight!
As soon as I heard the words “with cause” in the statement I said to someone else they have Wembley’s CCTV footage! "
Oh I hope that CCTV footage ends up online at some point.
Punk's yet to comment on it so I'm sure his statement/podcast appearance will be memorable |
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By *abio OP Man 52 weeks ago
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"CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK!
Ignore anything I previously said  "
That was a shock last night… I thought they may have saved him for the royal rumble…
But… Chicago is Chicago |
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By (user no longer on site) 52 weeks ago
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"CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK!
Ignore anything I previously said
That was a shock last night… I thought they may have saved him for the royal rumble…
But… Chicago is Chicago "
I honestly never thought he'd go back and really thought that bridge was burnt. I think this is better than a Rumble return as I always feel like you can't really soak in a reaction of a return to go straight into a match. |
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Horrible news about Omega. 
Who do we all think the devil is in AEW? I thought it was Max at the start, but commentary have leaned in to it possibly being him, which makes me think it’s not. It feels like they’re trying to convince everyone it’s Jack Perry with the broken glass each time. If I had to choose now would say it was Adam Cole. |
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By *abio OP Man 49 weeks ago
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"Horrible news about Omega.
Who do we all think the devil is in AEW? I thought it was Max at the start, but commentary have leaned in to it possibly being him, which makes me think it’s not. It feels like they’re trying to convince everyone it’s Jack Perry with the broken glass each time. If I had to choose now would say it was Adam Cole."
Jack Perry and Adam Cole are too simple a choice.. I think they are waiting on certain 90 day release clauses to be up and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were dolph or mustafa Ali …
Anyway I have it scripted.. MJF to lose the title to swerve at revolution… then he loses it to will osprey at all in… and we also better have ZSJ Danielson 2 on that card as well! |
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I just watched Collision (that’s an action-packed show, btw. Jesus). Keith Lee referred to Swerve as “Him” and that he was “tired of waiting”. I think the implication was that it’s about Lee finally getting his feud resolved with Swerve, but I think there’s a good chance that the devil might be Swerve and that Keith Lee is working with him and the Embassy to take out everyone. If there’s a 6’3” 300lb guy in a mask on Wednesday, then I think it’s confirmed for me. |
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By (user no longer on site) 44 weeks ago
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"Vince now accuses of sexual misconduct and trafficking. Also being sued for not paying the full $3 million from a previous NDA. "
I saw this, the details of the charges are absolutely horrific. That poor woman |
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By *zeroMan 44 weeks ago
Glasgow |
Aye he's gone, gone.
Lesnars names been thrown around quite a bit too.
Do you think maybe The Rock will eventually become President/Spokesperson or some role like that for TKO considering how much of a beloved face he is? |
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By *abio OP Man 44 weeks ago
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"Aye he's gone, gone.
Lesnars names been thrown around quite a bit too.
Do you think maybe The Rock will eventually become President/Spokesperson or some role like that for TKO considering how much of a beloved face he is?"
I think you absolutely use his face for “damage control” if it helps.. for example, this is a new WWE ect ect… |
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